its probley the cast members from the fresh meat 1 era aka real world austin to cancun era who are not coming back
different dyamic as in what lol lol adding cast members from different reality tv shows which i think should be somewhat a great idea because then we fans can see how cast members from different reality tv shows like are you the one slednecks buckwild geordie shore the valleys bad girls club and redneck island are like on the mtv challenges
but i heard that alot of the cast members from the real world fresh meats and road rules did not want to do this challenge because it was battle of the exes 2 and most would only come back if its a duel
BGC has their own spin off if I'm correct. All Star Battle.
Slednecks, Buckwild (what?), Geordie Shore (LOL), The Valleys (again, what?), and RI don't need to be on The Challenge. That's the equivelent of taking a hot, steamy dump on the show.
AYTO is the closest thing on MTV to the challenge. I don't get why people are exagerating "Oh what are they gonna do, put Teen Mom on there?". It's a diffrent show we get it but it's the same pool of people and closest in format to the challenge lol.
What's to stop them from putting in Teem Mom if they put in AYTO?
I'm just saying, if there's no logic in not putting AYTO on the shows, then there's no logic to putting them on the shows. This whole "well, CBS does the same thing with Survivor, BB, TAR" is nonsense, considering the endless possibilities of who they could get. If we need a fresh, new cast then look at people who haven't been on, that want to come on, and are going to make their Challenge debut and that are from RR/RW, because THOSE people were there first, and should be a top priority in casting.
I think whether or not they take a break from the challenge depends on the ratings. But in that time slot, seems like a suicide mission. I don't think many people will stop because of Diem/knight, ct and jemmye are obvious. I still think Camilla will do it, Johnny said he will do it forever, Zach I can see still wanting to do it...I feel like most people who have seen a final will still want to do it because they remember how sweet that money is and like said before, they realize they don't have money outside of it/real jobs (few exceptions) I think there's a good chance Cooke would come back now, which might be one of the best left since Laurel, Evelyn, and I believe Emily are done. You know cara Maria will be down. Dustin will always be down, I see Leroy being down but who knows because I'm sure his gf was pissed about the clip with him and jem. I think everyone Portland will still be down, a lot of explosion kids, I'm sure skeletons will too. I think it's just around that time when one era ends and another begins unfortunately. People get older and don't want to put themselves in a dramatic :stressful environment after awhile. And if it's true that a lot of people don't want to...there's plenty of Rookies dying for a chance. I just think if people really aren't interested, they need to stop casting for formats and go with a duel/free agents sorta format.
I think whether or not they take a break from the challenge depends on the ratings. But in that time slot, seems like a suicide mission. I don't think many people will stop because of Diem/knight, ct and jemmye are obvious. I still think Camilla will do it, Johnny said he will do it forever, Zach I can see still wanting to do it...I feel like most people who have seen a final will still want to do it because they remember how sweet that money is and like said before, they realize they don't have money outside of it/real jobs (few exceptions) I think there's a good chance Cooke would come back now, which might be one of the best left since Laurel, Evelyn, and I believe Emily are done. You know cara Maria will be down. Dustin will always be down, I see Leroy being down but who knows because I'm sure his gf was pissed about the clip with him and jem. I think everyone Portland will still be down, a lot of explosion kids, I'm sure skeletons will too. I think it's just around that time when one era ends and another begins unfortunately. People get older and don't want to put themselves in a dramatic :stressful environment after awhile. And if it's true that a lot of people don't want to...there's plenty of Rookies dying for a chance. I just think if people really aren't interested, they need to stop casting for formats and go with a duel/free agents sorta format.
its probley the cast members from the fresh meat 1 era aka real world austin to cancun era who are not coming back
different dyamic as in what lol lol adding cast members from different reality tv shows which i think should be somewhat a great idea because then we fans can see how cast members from different reality tv shows like are you the one slednecks buckwild geordie shore the valleys bad girls club and redneck island are like on the mtv challenges
but i heard that alot of the cast members from the real world fresh meats and road rules did not want to do this challenge because it was battle of the exes 2 and most would only come back if its a duel
BGC has their own spin off if I'm correct. All Star Battle.
Slednecks, Buckwild (what?), Geordie Shore (LOL), The Valleys (again, what?), and RI don't need to be on The Challenge. That's the equivelent of taking a hot, steamy dump on the show.
AYTO is the closest thing on MTV to the challenge. I don't get why people are exagerating "Oh what are they gonna do, put Teen Mom on there?". It's a diffrent show we get it but it's the same pool of people and closest in format to the challenge lol.
What's to stop them from putting in Teem Mom if they put in AYTO?
I'm just saying, if there's no logic in not putting AYTO on the shows, then there's no logic to putting them on the shows. This whole "well, CBS does the same thing with Survivor, BB, TAR" is nonsense, considering the endless possibilities of who they could get. If we need a fresh, new cast then look at people who haven't been on, that want to come on, and are going to make their Challenge debut and that are from RR/RW, because THOSE people were there first, and should be a top priority in casting.
From a production standpoint putting a Jersey Shore cast member (for example), who makes millions of dollars on a challenge would be a decision that BMP would never make so that's ridiculous to even think that they would consider doing something like that. I'd think they would select people from a show that is... like I said the closest thing to what a challenge is and that is AYTO not a 16 year old teen and a Teen Mom who is probably already racking up big money from their appearences on their own show. AYTO is the same pool of people, a lot cheaper, it was relevant at the time, convenient for the theme and some of them have even tried out for a real world season - it just makes sense. I am not saying that I want to see it happen I just understand where they are coming from with this decision to cast them. I don't understand how you guys can't (whether it is right or wrong).
But anyway, I don't really care to talk about this anymore because what's done is done and I'm watching either way. So I'm refraining from this discussion about AYTO being on this show from here on out. I don't know why I did in the first place lol
Did Jasmine say anything interesting since she is friends with cast members? I dont want to put myself listening to a podcast of her throwing shade to Jonna/Nia/Theresa like she have done in the past and I bet it wasnt the difference this time around
Did Jasmine say anything interesting since she is friends with cast members? I dont want to put myself listening to a podcast of her throwing shade to Jonna/Nia/Theresa like she have done in the past and I bet it wasnt the difference this time around
I didn't listen to the whole thing but it was really obvious she knew who won because she was like Jay/Jenna are definitely going to make it far and stuff..she was making it so obvious. But she said her and Jonna are still cool. It didn't sound like her and Theresa were cool. She said she was trying not to talk bad about anyone but kind of talked shit about Theresa. She made it so obvious that Nia/Leroy made the finals because she was like I hope Nia made the finals to prove me wrong . But I didn't listen to it all because Jasmine annoys the hell out of me.
She also said she thinks Jenna is going to be the next Laurel or Evelyn....... ***** (Maybe she heard she was a good competitor?)
Did Jasmine say anything interesting since she is friends with cast members? I dont want to put myself listening to a podcast of her throwing shade to Jonna/Nia/Theresa like she have done in the past and I bet it wasnt the difference this time around
I didn't listen to the whole thing but it was really obvious she knew who won because she was like Jay/Jenna are definitely going to make it far and stuff..she was making it so obvious. But she said her and Jonna are still cool. It didn't sound like her and Theresa were cool. She said she was trying not to talk bad about anyone but kind of talked shit about Theresa. She made it so obvious that Nia/Leroy made the finals because she was like I hope Nia made the finals to prove me wrong . But I didn't listen to it all because Jasmine annoys the hell out of me.
She also said she thinks Jenna is going to be the next Laurel or Evelyn....... ***** (Maybe she heard she was a good competitor?)
laurel or Evelyn lmaoo
By what I heard Jenna is not scared by a lot of things including heights...She is pretty fearless. She is tall. She strikes me more of an ashley K competitor.
But she doesn't have the brains of Laurel and Evelyn or the strength of either.
Did Jasmine say anything interesting since she is friends with cast members? I dont want to put myself listening to a podcast of her throwing shade to Jonna/Nia/Theresa like she have done in the past and I bet it wasnt the difference this time around
I didn't listen to the whole thing but it was really obvious she knew who won because she was like Jay/Jenna are definitely going to make it far and stuff..she was making it so obvious. But she said her and Jonna are still cool. It didn't sound like her and Theresa were cool. She said she was trying not to talk bad about anyone but kind of talked shit about Theresa. She made it so obvious that Nia/Leroy made the finals because she was like I hope Nia made the finals to prove me wrong . But I didn't listen to it all because Jasmine annoys the hell out of me.
She also said she thinks Jenna is going to be the next Laurel or Evelyn....... ***** (Maybe she heard she was a good competitor?)
laurel or Evelyn lmaoo By what I heard Jenna is not scared by a lot of things including heights...She is pretty fearless. She is tall. She strikes me more of an ashley K competitor. But she doesn't have the brains of Laurel and Evelyn or the strength of either.
Aww I love how Jenna is proving a lot of people wrong. I remember when filming began everyone thought they'd be the first ones out. I'm really happy for Jenna, jay can stay home tho lol. Where can I listen to the podcast???
Did Jasmine say anything interesting since she is friends with cast members? I dont want to put myself listening to a podcast of her throwing shade to Jonna/Nia/Theresa like she have done in the past and I bet it wasnt the difference this time around
I didn't listen to the whole thing but it was really obvious she knew who won because she was like Jay/Jenna are definitely going to make it far and stuff..she was making it so obvious. But she said her and Jonna are still cool. It didn't sound like her and Theresa were cool. She said she was trying not to talk bad about anyone but kind of talked shit about Theresa. She made it so obvious that Nia/Leroy made the finals because she was like I hope Nia made the finals to prove me wrong . But I didn't listen to it all because Jasmine annoys the hell out of me.
She also said she thinks Jenna is going to be the next Laurel or Evelyn....... ***** (Maybe she heard she was a good competitor?)
She said this because she knew somebody would go & tell Nia if she started talking shit lol
LOL I saw it and yeah it was pretty clear that right when he asked her about Leroy and Nia she was scared and knew what to say bc anyone could relay to Nia that she was talking crap. She still threw a little shade though.
But other than that it was a decent interview. I wouldn't say she really knew the outcome persay but you never know.... what she said about Jenna surprised me because I certainly don't see her being no Evelyn or Laurel. She seemed delusional there.
LOL I saw it and yeah it was pretty clear that right when he asked her about Leroy and Nia she was scared and knew what to say bc anyone could relay to Nia that she was talking crap. She still threw a little shade though.
But other than that it was a decent interview. I wouldn't say she really knew the outcome persay but you never know.... what she said about Jenna surprised me because I certainly don't see her being no Evelyn or Laurel. She seemed delusional there.
Like somebody said, I think she'll be more of an Ashley K. type at most.
not surprised at all that jasmine wanted to throw shade at theresa. jasmine has always been a good friend to theresa and theresa rarely returned the favor. shadiness on theresa's part.
cant really make the call on jenna that she is not the next evelyn/laurel. none of us know for sure and we dont want to look dumb if she ends up cleaning up. the girl has a big frame and that combined with the alleged fearlessness are two incredibly important ingredients that put her ahead of most girls right off the bat. there have been many competitors that have been surprises to the prior predictions, whether dissapointing(danny/dunbar/tori/nia) or fortunate(kelly anne/svetlana/camila/frank) so because of that, i personally never write anyone off....or on. we'll see if she comes through.
I'm glad to see that the premiere is 90min but i have a feeling the first 30min will be a repeat of ex-tra bagage. At least we will get a fun hour of new footage (hopefully). Im really excited to see how everyone competes. I think a few ppl will surprise us even with the spoilers we do have. This is the first season in awhile that the lack of of every detail has me excited.
Just a quick question that really interests me, what ratings should this first episodes get to be considered good in your opinion ? What do you expect ? If V1man, PinkRose, Parisa read this, i think it would be really interesting to get your thoughts on this as well .... since in order to keep doing the Challenge in the future the ratings must be good.
I think 1.5 million is a pretty good and reachable number.
Just a quick question that really interests me, what ratings should this first episodes get to be considered good in your opinion ? What do you expect ? If V1man, PinkRose, Parisa read this, i think it would be really interesting to get your thoughts on this as well .... since in order to keep doing the Challenge in the future the ratings must be good.
I think 1.5 million is a pretty good and reachable number.
That might seem normal for other networks, but the way MTV is doing right now I would be hugely surprised if the first episode surpassed 1 million, I would like to think that MTV would be excited with numbers that high (even though its not high) but knowing how everything been going with ratings so far I think it will get a little over 700,000, what do you guys think??
I think he may be like Camila. Or like Sarah/young Emily, like exes1 Emily. Also, how Nia dissapointed us and did people really thought Frank is bad?
They didn't. Nia in particular has v123's feathers so ruffled he/she can't see straight so I would ignore anything Nia that he/she types lol
Svetlana quit in the middle of her Duel & got as far as she did only because the producers wanted her to (i'm sure they wanted at least 1 Key West person in the finals). Anybody with a brain can see that Beth was obviously supposed to win that one.
WTH is The Valleys?
its the wales verison of jersey shore
Why on earth do you think that European Jersey shores would bring in ratings?
What's to stop them from putting in Teem Mom if they put in AYTO?
I'm just saying, if there's no logic in not putting AYTO on the shows, then there's no logic to putting them on the shows. This whole "well, CBS does the same thing with Survivor, BB, TAR" is nonsense, considering the endless possibilities of who they could get. If we need a fresh, new cast then look at people who haven't been on, that want to come on, and are going to make their Challenge debut and that are from RR/RW, because THOSE people were there first, and should be a top priority in casting.
I think whether or not they take a break from the challenge depends on the ratings. But in that time slot, seems like a suicide mission. I don't think many people will stop because of Diem/knight, ct and jemmye are obvious. I still think Camilla will do it, Johnny said he will do it forever, Zach I can see still wanting to do it...I feel like most people who have seen a final will still want to do it because they remember how sweet that money is and like said before, they realize they don't have money outside of it/real jobs (few exceptions) I think there's a good chance Cooke would come back now, which might be one of the best left since Laurel, Evelyn, and I believe Emily are done. You know cara Maria will be down. Dustin will always be down, I see Leroy being down but who knows because I'm sure his gf was pissed about the clip with him and jem. I think everyone Portland will still be down, a lot of explosion kids, I'm sure skeletons will too. I think it's just around that time when one era ends and another begins unfortunately. People get older and don't want to put themselves in a dramatic :stressful environment after awhile. And if it's true that a lot of people don't want to...there's plenty of Rookies dying for a chance. I just think if people really aren't interested, they need to stop casting for formats and go with a duel/free agents sorta format.
A perfect girl cast for the duel would be:
Devyn
Cara Maria
Theresa
Camila
Cooke
Marie
Nia
Averey
Jenny
Ashley
Violetta
Sylvia
Madison
Simone
Here we go again ... the never ending story of who should be on the next challenge ...
Haha whoops
I didn't know knight was growing his hair for nonprofit. I'm assuming for wigs for chemo patients , that's really sweet he did that...
From a production standpoint putting a Jersey Shore cast member (for example), who makes millions of dollars on a challenge would be a decision that BMP would never make so that's ridiculous to even think that they would consider doing something like that. I'd think they would select people from a show that is... like I said the closest thing to what a challenge is and that is AYTO not a 16 year old teen and a Teen Mom who is probably already racking up big money from their appearences on their own show. AYTO is the same pool of people, a lot cheaper, it was relevant at the time, convenient for the theme and some of them have even tried out for a real world season - it just makes sense. I am not saying that I want to see it happen I just understand where they are coming from with this decision to cast them. I don't understand how you guys can't (whether it is right or wrong).
But anyway, I don't really care to talk about this anymore because what's done is done and I'm watching either way. So I'm refraining from this discussion about AYTO being on this show from here on out. I don't know why I did in the first place lol
Did Jasmine say anything interesting since she is friends with cast members? I dont want to put myself listening to a podcast of her throwing shade to Jonna/Nia/Theresa like she have done in the past and I bet it wasnt the difference this time around
I didn't listen to the whole thing but it was really obvious she knew who won because she was like Jay/Jenna are definitely going to make it far and stuff..she was making it so obvious. But she said her and Jonna are still cool. It didn't sound like her and Theresa were cool. She said she was trying not to talk bad about anyone but kind of talked shit about Theresa. She made it so obvious that Nia/Leroy made the finals because she was like I hope Nia made the finals to prove me wrong . But I didn't listen to it all because Jasmine annoys the hell out of me.
She also said she thinks Jenna is going to be the next Laurel or Evelyn....... ***** (Maybe she heard she was a good competitor?)
laurel or Evelyn lmaoo
By what I heard Jenna is not scared by a lot of things including heights...She is pretty fearless. She is tall. She strikes me more of an ashley K competitor.
But she doesn't have the brains of Laurel and Evelyn or the strength of either.
Aww I love how Jenna is proving a lot of people wrong. I remember when filming began everyone thought they'd be the first ones out. I'm really happy for Jenna, jay can stay home tho lol. Where can I listen to the podcast???
She said this because she knew somebody would go & tell Nia if she started talking shit lol
LOL I saw it and yeah it was pretty clear that right when he asked her about Leroy and Nia she was scared and knew what to say bc anyone could relay to Nia that she was talking crap. She still threw a little shade though.
But other than that it was a decent interview. I wouldn't say she really knew the outcome persay but you never know.... what she said about Jenna surprised me because I certainly don't see her being no Evelyn or Laurel. She seemed delusional there.
Like somebody said, I think she'll be more of an Ashley K. type at most.
not surprised at all that jasmine wanted to throw shade at theresa. jasmine has always been a good friend to theresa and theresa rarely returned the favor. shadiness on theresa's part.
cant really make the call on jenna that she is not the next evelyn/laurel. none of us know for sure and we dont want to look dumb if she ends up cleaning up. the girl has a big frame and that combined with the alleged fearlessness are two incredibly important ingredients that put her ahead of most girls right off the bat. there have been many competitors that have been surprises to the prior predictions, whether dissapointing(danny/dunbar/tori/nia) or fortunate(kelly anne/svetlana/camila/frank) so because of that, i personally never write anyone off....or on. we'll see if she comes through.
What CT should do is come back on the duel 3 and win for diem.
I think he may be like Camila. Or like Sarah/young Emily, like exes1 Emily.
Also, how Nia dissapointed us and did people really thought Frank is bad?
Jenna is probably going to come in second in the first mission IMO because she has the smallest partner and she's pretty big.
I'm glad to see that the premiere is 90min but i have a feeling the first 30min will be a repeat of ex-tra bagage. At least we will get a fun hour of new footage (hopefully). Im really excited to see how everyone competes. I think a few ppl will surprise us even with the spoilers we do have. This is the first season in awhile that the lack of of every detail has me excited.
Just a quick question that really interests me, what ratings should this first episodes get to be considered good in your opinion ? What do you expect ?
If V1man, PinkRose, Parisa read this, i think it would be really interesting to get your thoughts on this as well .... since in order to keep doing the Challenge in the future the ratings must be good.
I think 1.5 million is a pretty good and reachable number.
If it was at 10 I would say it can get over 1 million, but at 11 with that horrible lead-in I can't see it getting over a million.
I'm expecting it to be on par with, if not lower than, Real World.
I don't know I still think this will do slightly better than Skeletons, but maybe I'm being too optimistic.
You really think it will get these bad numbers??
I'd rather not get my hopes up. Especially since I have high expectations for Eye Candy. I do not want to risk being letdown twice.
They didn't. Nia in particular has v123's feathers so ruffled he/she can't see straight so I would ignore anything Nia that he/she types lol
Svetlana quit in the middle of her Duel & got as far as she did only because the producers wanted her to (i'm sure they wanted at least 1 Key West person in the finals). Anybody with a brain can see that Beth was obviously supposed to win that one.
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