The Challenge: Summer 2014 - Discussion (Spoilers)

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 The first one is completely possible, if the rules were structured such that the remaining "exile" team was brought back for a final elimination against one of the remaining three teams. Wes and Theresa could've been that team that then had to go up against Leroy and Nia. It's pretty simple. 

 

And I doubt it took Leroy playing dirty for him to manhandle Wes. He made short work of him when he still had some of his muscle left. Now that he's all skin and bone it probably wasn't very difficult. And a neckbrace doesn't imply a serious injury...perhaps it was a wrestling elimination and he just got whiplash. I'm only enjoying it because I know that he's fine now and I'm sure if it were said on this site that Bananas was sent home in a neckbrace there'd be a fair amount of rejoicing. So yeah, as he clearly isn't seriously hurt, I think it's pretty funny. Karma's a *****. 

 

I would think Im not mean enough to enjoy johnny getting hurt either, even if he was fine afterwards, Wes had some of the best eliminations so*******. The only man handled one was with Erc but that wasnt due to Erics athletisism but more to do with his fatness. The Leroy/Wes x-battle wasnt a piece of cake, the cast said they were in there for a while, Leroy is just bigger and stronger but Wes didnt just lay down.

 

Im going to guess Leroy/Nia were the exile team then since they beat both Johnny and Wes' team, so who was the guy saying Leroy Nia saw 3 eliminations? That wasnt PR?

So not only did Nia come in 2nd place but she eliminated Averey? Amazing!

 

So we both agree Jordan likely did well this season, he did well and got to the end of Rivals 2. Yet, he's not one of the top newer competitors because of Free Agents? But you have no problem giving Sarah a pass for gassing out in a Final and losing a puzzle (her strength) to Jonna? LOL. Sounds like your obvious vendetta against Jordan won't allow you to give him credit. Most of the newer competitors haven't won. This guy been to the Final twice in three seasons AND has a win. Sorry, he's one of the best new competitors. 

Alright, obviously you think very highly of Sarah, but to most people she does not stand head and shoulders above the female competition this season. And after hearing that Jordan brought his A game, how can you deny him credit for this win? Other than the fact that you just don't like him of course.

I have not made you repeat anything by the way, you are very obviosuly trying to discredit Jordan at every turn despite the fact that he's proven himself before, and likely did it again this season. 

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I CANNOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE!

I am not getting into any debates here but just wanted to mention that I have been rewatching Rivals 2.  For the most part Jordan came off as a good competitor and likable.  If we get this side of Jordan and not his Free Agents cocky/weak etc side then I find it very believable that he did well and potenitlly won according to Pink.

So we both agree Jordan likely did well this season, he did well and got to the end of Rivals 2. Yet, he's not one of the top newer competitors because of Free Agents? But you have no problem giving Sarah a pass for gassing out in a Final and losing a puzzle (her strength) to Jonna? LOL. Sounds like your obvious vendetta against Jordan won't allow you to give him credit. Most of the newer competitors haven't won. This guy been to the Final twice in three seasons AND has a win. Sorry, he's one of the best new competitors. 

Alright, obviously you think very highly of Sarah, but to most people she does not stand head and shoulders above the female competition this season. And after hearing that Jordan brought his A game, how can you deny him credit for this win? Other than the fact that you just don't like him of course.

I have not made you repeat anything by the way, you are very obviosuly trying to discredit Jordan at every turn despite the fact that he's proven himself before, and likely did it again this season. 

What are you talking about?  I had to repeat myself countless times.  Because you aren't listening.

He wasn't good in Rivals 2--at best average--probably below--it was just a weak cast

Winning a challenge doesn't make you "one of the best"--ask Katie...she's been in 2 finals and has a win.  There's many others.  Devyn's made two finals for example.

Sarah's proven time and time again that she shows up and performs.  She brings her best even when paired with awful partners.  Even when she doesn't win (see Jonna) she fought.  She's never constantly performed horribly in missions as Jordan did last season.  When you have the best female partner you only have to be average to win missions.  Jordan likely wasn't one of the top guys there but I'm sure he brought what is "his A game".  He gets credit for the win--just like everyone else.  When did I say he doesn't get credit for the win?

Jordan's an egotistical ******* that likely listened to Sarah and shut his mouth.  All Jordan had to do this challenge was lay low and they had a great chance to win--because of Sarah.  Kudos to Jordan for picking the right girls to hook up with, performing to the best of his ability and not ******* things up for Sarah like Vinny & Trishelle have done.

 

 The first one is completely possible, if the rules were structured such that the remaining "exile" team was brought back for a final elimination against one of the remaining three teams. Wes and Theresa could've been that team that then had to go up against Leroy and Nia. It's pretty simple. 

 

And I doubt it took Leroy playing dirty for him to manhandle Wes. He made short work of him when he still had some of his muscle left. Now that he's all skin and bone it probably wasn't very difficult. And a neckbrace doesn't imply a serious injury...perhaps it was a wrestling elimination and he just got whiplash. I'm only enjoying it because I know that he's fine now and I'm sure if it were said on this site that Bananas was sent home in a neckbrace there'd be a fair amount of rejoicing. So yeah, as he clearly isn't seriously hurt, I think it's pretty funny. Karma's a *****. 

 

I would think Im not mean enough to enjoy johnny getting hurt either, even if he was fine afterwards, Wes had some of the best eliminations so*******. The only man handled one was with Erc but that wasnt due to Erics athletisism but more to do with his fatness. The Leroy/Wes x-battle wasnt a piece of cake, the cast said they were in there for a while, Leroy is just bigger and stronger but Wes didnt just lay down.

 

Im going to guess Leroy/Nia were the exile team then since they beat both Johnny and Wes' team, so who was the guy saying Leroy Nia saw 3 eliminations? That wasnt PR?

 

Yes he has. How adorable of him. 

 

 

I am not getting into any debates here but just wanted to mention that I have been rewatching Rivals 2.  For the most part Jordan came off as a good competitor and likable.  If we get this side of Jordan and not his Free Agents cocky/weak etc side then I find it very believable that he did well and potenitlly won according to Pink.

Sorry Karisa but he was never likeable but I have not doubt, given they reached the finals, that he shut his mouth and let Sarah run the show.  He gets a ton of credit for that.

 

I wish Sarah would have did Free Agents because to me her win feels exactly like Paula's win. I feel they stretched her EX and handed her someone who would take her to high places. I'm happy for her but it's not much of a shock.

 The first one is completely possible, if the rules were structured such that the remaining "exile" team was brought back for a final elimination against one of the remaining three teams. Wes and Theresa could've been that team that then had to go up against Leroy and Nia. It's pretty simple. 

 

And I doubt it took Leroy playing dirty for him to manhandle Wes. He made short work of him when he still had some of his muscle left. Now that he's all skin and bone it probably wasn't very difficult. And a neckbrace doesn't imply a serious injury...perhaps it was a wrestling elimination and he just got whiplash. I'm only enjoying it because I know that he's fine now and I'm sure if it were said on this site that Bananas was sent home in a neckbrace there'd be a fair amount of rejoicing. So yeah, as he clearly isn't seriously hurt, I think it's pretty funny. Karma's a *****. 

 

I would think Im not mean enough to enjoy johnny getting hurt either, even if he was fine afterwards, Wes had some of the best eliminations so*******. The only man handled one was with Erc but that wasnt due to Erics athletisism but more to do with his fatness. The Leroy/Wes x-battle wasnt a piece of cake, the cast said they were in there for a while, Leroy is just bigger and stronger but Wes didnt just lay down.

 

Im going to guess Leroy/Nia were the exile team then since they beat both Johnny and Wes' team, so who was the guy saying Leroy Nia saw 3 eliminations? That wasnt PR?

That was me and Leroy & Nia were not the Exiled team. So they beat Bananas/Nany & Wes/Theresa in The Domes not Exile. My sources exact words were "Nia was never eliminated". Bananas & Nany I'm told were in Exile at some point so they probably eliminated Wes & Theresa for good. 

And the 3rd elimination was supposedly Johnny & Averey. So that's 3 Domes Leroy & Nia won.  

So we both agree Jordan likely did well this season, he did well and got to the end of Rivals 2. Yet, he's not one of the top newer competitors because of Free Agents? But you have no problem giving Sarah a pass for gassing out in a Final and losing a puzzle (her strength) to Jonna? LOL. Sounds like your obvious vendetta against Jordan won't allow you to give him credit. Most of the newer competitors haven't won. This guy been to the Final twice in three seasons AND has a win. Sorry, he's one of the best new competitors. 

Alright, obviously you think very highly of Sarah, but to most people she does not stand head and shoulders above the female competition this season. And after hearing that Jordan brought his A game, how can you deny him credit for this win? Other than the fact that you just don't like him of course.

I have not made you repeat anything by the way, you are very obviosuly trying to discredit Jordan at every turn despite the fact that he's proven himself before, and likely did it again this season. 

What are you talking about?  I had to repeat myself countless times.  Because you aren't listening.

He wasn't good in Rivals 2--at best average--probably below--it was just a weak cast

Winning a challenge doesn't make you "one of the best"--ask Katie...she's been in 2 finals and has a win.  There's many others.  Devyn's made two finals for example.

Sarah's proven time and time again that she shows up and performs.  She brings her best even when paired with awful partners.  Even when she doesn't win (see Jonna) she fought.  She's never constantly performed horribly in missions as Jordan did last season.  When you have the best female partner you only have to be average to win missions.  Jordan likely wasn't one of the top guys there but I'm sure he brought what is "his A game".  He gets credit for the win--just like everyone else.  When did I say he doesn't get credit for the win?

Jordan's an egotistical ******* that likely listened to Sarah and shut his mouth.  All Jordan had to do this challenge was lay low and they had a great chance to win--because of Sarah.  Kudos to Jordan for picking the right girls to hook up with, performing to the best of his ability and not ******* things up for Sarah like Vinny & Trishelle have done.

 

 

Listen to yourself...

You're saying Rivals 2 had a weak cast. So Johnny CT Wes Frank and Zach are all weak? You're just finding reasons to put Jordan down.

This final isn't like other finals... he isn't the most liked person and he only had 1 other partner.


Your hatred for Jordan is so large that it's getting in the way of you thinking rationally.

 Sarah isn't elite but she is good and has merit. And I wouldn't say that Jordan is the best of the new generation.

 

But Honestly it doesn't matter who's good, elite or whatever. We got new winners and that's all that matters honestly.

 

 

So we both agree Jordan likely did well this season, he did well and got to the end of Rivals 2. Yet, he's not one of the top newer competitors because of Free Agents? But you have no problem giving Sarah a pass for gassing out in a Final and losing a puzzle (her strength) to Jonna? LOL. Sounds like your obvious vendetta against Jordan won't allow you to give him credit. Most of the newer competitors haven't won. This guy been to the Final twice in three seasons AND has a win. Sorry, he's one of the best new competitors. 

Alright, obviously you think very highly of Sarah, but to most people she does not stand head and shoulders above the female competition this season. And after hearing that Jordan brought his A game, how can you deny him credit for this win? Other than the fact that you just don't like him of course.

I have not made you repeat anything by the way, you are very obviosuly trying to discredit Jordan at every turn despite the fact that he's proven himself before, and likely did it again this season. 

What are you talking about?  I had to repeat myself countless times.  Because you aren't listening.

He wasn't good in Rivals 2--at best average--probably below--it was just a weak cast

Winning a challenge doesn't make you "one of the best"--ask Katie...she's been in 2 finals and has a win.  There's many others.  Devyn's made two finals for example.

Sarah's proven time and time again that she shows up and performs.  She brings her best even when paired with awful partners.  Even when she doesn't win (see Jonna) she fought.  She's never constantly performed horribly in missions as Jordan did last season.  When you have the best female partner you only have to be average to win missions.  Jordan likely wasn't one of the top guys there but I'm sure he brought what is "his A game".  He gets credit for the win--just like everyone else.  When did I say he doesn't get credit for the win?

Jordan's an egotistical ******* that likely listened to Sarah and shut his mouth.  All Jordan had to do this challenge was lay low and they had a great chance to win--because of Sarah.  Kudos to Jordan for picking the right girls to hook up with, performing to the best of his ability and not ******* things up for Sarah like Vinny & Trishelle have done.

 

 

Listen to yourself...

You're saying Rivals 2 had a weak cast. So Johnny CT Wes Frank and Zach are all weak? You're just finding reasons to put Jordan down.

This final isn't like other finals... he isn't the most liked person and he only had 1 other partner.


Your hatred for Jordan is so large that it's getting in the way of you thinking rationally.

CT and Frank (who I hate more than Jordan) were great on Rivals 2.  Johnny nor Wes brought their A game but both performed better than Jordan.  Honestly, that was Johnny's worst performance in a long time which is why he came back in the shape he did for Free Agents.  Zach's really not that good--see last season's final.  Frank's (again, who I hate) has been, by far, the best of the newbies.  The only consist one for the guys.  Zach also had a weak partner unlike Jordan.  I don't have to like someone to give them credit.  See Frank, Laurel, Tori (the person I hate the most), Evelyn, Paula, Johnny, Evan, Kenny, etc.

Your inability to think rationally is getting in the way of us discussing this.  Your either intentionally ignoring the point or missing it.  Not sure which but not surprised either.

 

So we both agree Jordan likely did well this season, he did well and got to the end of Rivals 2. Yet, he's not one of the top newer competitors because of Free Agents? But you have no problem giving Sarah a pass for gassing out in a Final and losing a puzzle (her strength) to Jonna? LOL. Sounds like your obvious vendetta against Jordan won't allow you to give him credit. Most of the newer competitors haven't won. This guy been to the Final twice in three seasons AND has a win. Sorry, he's one of the best new competitors. 

Alright, obviously you think very highly of Sarah, but to most people she does not stand head and shoulders above the female competition this season. And after hearing that Jordan brought his A game, how can you deny him credit for this win? Other than the fact that you just don't like him of course.

I have not made you repeat anything by the way, you are very obviosuly trying to discredit Jordan at every turn despite the fact that he's proven himself before, and likely did it again this season. 

What are you talking about?  I had to repeat myself countless times.  Because you aren't listening.

He wasn't good in Rivals 2--at best average--probably below--it was just a weak cast

Winning a challenge doesn't make you "one of the best"--ask Katie...she's been in 2 finals and has a win.  There's many others.  Devyn's made two finals for example.

Sarah's proven time and time again that she shows up and performs.  She brings her best even when paired with awful partners.  Even when she doesn't win (see Jonna) she fought.  She's never constantly performed horribly in missions as Jordan did last season.  When you have the best female partner you only have to be average to win missions.  Jordan likely wasn't one of the top guys there but I'm sure he brought what is "his A game".  He gets credit for the win--just like everyone else.  When did I say he doesn't get credit for the win?

Jordan's an egotistical ******* that likely listened to Sarah and shut his mouth.  All Jordan had to do this challenge was lay low and they had a great chance to win--because of Sarah.  Kudos to Jordan for picking the right girls to hook up with, performing to the best of his ability and not ******* things up for Sarah like Vinny & Trishelle have done.

 

 

Average at best on Rivals 2? I can remember 2-3 flat out awesome mission performances by him off the top of my head, to go along with 2 elimination wins. He did really well on Rivals 2. If anything, Marlon's lack of swimming ability held him down a little bit. 

So now we're comparing Katie, who won in a two team challenge like 10 years ago, to Jordan who got to the end of two pairs formats and won one of them? 

Was he the best guy there? No idea. Probably not, but I could easily see him being in the top 3-4. He was one of the top 3-4 on Rivals 2. 

To PinkRose or Livewitpeace: Has there been any word on whether the final was 1 or 2 days?

I wish Sarah would have did Free Agents because to me her win feels exactly like Paula's win. I feel they stretched her EX and handed her someone who would take her to high places. I'm happy for her but it's not much of a shock.


No if anything Sarah will get him to high places, Jordan has no allies really and Sarah is liked by everyone smh

I wish Sarah would have did Free Agents because to me her win feels exactly like Paula's win. I feel they stretched her EX and handed her someone who would take her to high places. I'm happy for her but it's not much of a shock.

No if anything Sarah will get him to high places, Jordan has no allies really and Sarah is liked by everyone smh

Correct--this is so simple people are missing it.  It isn't like they put her with Bananas or CT

This season started out really shitty, but this outcome is awesome!!!

Thank you PR for yet again amazing spoilers! And LWP, thanks for the Nia details!

I really hope this season doesn't disappoint.

To PinkRose or Livewitpeace: Has there been any word on whether the final was 1 or 2 days?

I would imagine 2. As of the past 5 challenges it has been 2 days. Doubt they changed that. 

 

This season started out really shitty, but this outcome is awesome!!!

Thank you PR for yet again amazing spoilers! And LWP, thanks for the Nia details!

I really hope this season doesn't disappoint.

I agree, t
Especially with the ayto and the diem tragedy, I'm hoping there were some great physical eliminations.

Lol you can deny all you want... Jordan won this challenge and us fans are happy about it Blum 3 Your opinions don't matter if he is PROVEN to be one of the best newbies.

Lol you can deny all you want... Jordan won this challenge and us fans are happy about it Blum 3 Your opinions don't matter if he is PROVEN to be one of the best newbies.

Explain how he's "proven" it.  Please provide the "proof".  Let's use all the evidence and explain that.

This would be like saying Nehemiah was one of the best newbies at that point.

 

Lol you can deny all you want... Jordan won this challenge and us fans are happy about it Blum 3 Your opinions don't matter if he is PROVEN to be one of the best newbies.

Speak for yourself, im happy sarah won, i dont care about jordan

Lol you can deny all you want... Jordan won this challenge and us fans are happy about it Blum 3 Your opinions don't matter if he is PROVEN to be one of the best newbies.

Explain how he's "proven" it.  Please provide the "proof".  Let's use all the evidence and explain that.

This would be like saying Nehemiah was one of the best newbies at that point.

 

 

Good Lord you're worse than me.

People should stop arguing with kvm. He obviously hates Jordan so much that he's trying to compare him to competitors like Katie and Nehemiah. ****!!

Lol you can deny all you want... Jordan won this challenge and us fans are happy about it Blum 3 Your opinions don't matter if he is PROVEN to be one of the best newbies.

Explain how he's "proven" it.  Please provide the "proof".  Let's use all the evidence and explain that.

This would be like saying Nehemiah was one of the best newbies at that point.

 

 

He just won the finals fair and square? LOL

Souces said Sarah didn't carry him and that he did well this challenge. 

These are FACTS from people who were there.

 

 

Lol you can deny all you want... Jordan won this challenge and us fans are happy about it Blum 3 Your opinions don't matter if he is PROVEN to be one of the best newbies.

Explain how he's "proven" it.  Please provide the "proof".  Let's use all the evidence and explain that.

This would be like saying Nehemiah was one of the best newbies at that point.

 

 

Good Lord you're worse than me.

I'm a lawyer--if someone throws out the word proven I'm going to attack--haha

 

Lol you can deny all you want... Jordan won this challenge and us fans are happy about it Blum 3 Your opinions don't matter if he is PROVEN to be one of the best newbies.

Explain how he's "proven" it.  Please provide the "proof".  Let's use all the evidence and explain that.

This would be like saying Nehemiah was one of the best newbies at that point.

 

 

He just won the finals fair and square? LOL

Souces said Sarah didn't carry him and that he did well this challenge. 

These are FACTS from people who were there.

 

One challenge makes you one of the best now.  Wow, standards have hit an all-time low, haven't they?  You just have to "do well" to be one of the best of the newbies.  How bad are the newbies?

There's more evidence than just one challenge--which you haven't even seen unfold.

Apparently winning a challenge makes you "proven" now.  Congrats to Adam Larson, Cara, Sarah G, Roni, Katie, Kendal, Syrus, Jamie C, Ibis, Randy, Aviv, Tonya, Janelle, Johanna, Rachel-Austin, Nehemiah, Carley, Dunbar, Sam, Ashley-SD2, Zach, etc--you're all proven....

As soon as people starting saying Bananas/Nany might have not made the final I knew Jordan/Sarah had it in the bag. Everyone disagreed but Leroy/Nia don't look built for a final they look built for eliminations since they had size over everyone so I'm not suprised they weren't sent home. Sucks Nany didn't get the win but if I wanted anyone else to win it would be Jordan/Sarah. Not a huge fan of Leroy and I really like Nia but the Nia stans here would have gone WILD if she won. 

Lol you can deny all you want... Jordan won this challenge and us fans are happy about it Blum 3 Your opinions don't matter if he is PROVEN to be one of the best newbies.

Explain how he's "proven" it.  Please provide the "proof".  Let's use all the evidence and explain that.

This would be like saying Nehemiah was one of the best newbies at that point.

 

 

He just won the finals fair and square? LOL

Souces said Sarah didn't carry him and that he did well this challenge. 

These are FACTS from people who were there.

 

One challenge makes you one of the best now.  Wow, standards have hit an all-time low, haven't they?  You just have to "do well" to be one of the best of the newbies.  How bad are the newbies?

There's more evidence than just one challenge--which you haven't even seen unfold.

Apparently winning a challenge makes you "proven" now.  Congrats to Adam Larson, Cara, Sarah G, Roni, Katie, Kendal, Syrus, Jamie C, Ibis, Randy, Aviv, Tonya, Janelle, Johanna, Rachel-Austin, Nehemiah, Carley, Dunbar, Sam, Ashley-SD2, Zach, etc--you're all proven....

 

Keep in mind that this was a two person team... and Sarah did not carry him.

And 2 finals/3 challenges is pretty darn good.

 

Bananas mightve won a lot of challenges but he also participated in a lot... so you're saying his wins doesn't depict that hes a good player?

You haven't seen Jordan in future challenges yet.. he might be capable of winning those too.

I honestly don't need to prove to YOU that he's a good competiter. Just watch the season yourself and you will see Wink

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