Now that I think about it, the Heavy Hitters really screwed the outcome of the season. Theresa would have probably beaten Tori and Bananas vs. Tyler I think was pretty even. If Tyler would have still won, nothing would have probably happen, but if Bananas would have won, either Dunbar or Brad would have had to face either Bananas or Derrick on the last Gulag, and any of the two I could see loosing.
If all of that had happened, the Grey or Blue would have probably won.
I really think Tyler would have beaten Bananas in Back Up Off Me. The only think that would have changed, is the Red Team having only the 3 boys (Brad, Dunbar & Tyler) and Blue Team having only 3 girls (Jenn, Emily & Theresa). Red would have still won.
I think if Tori was mentally in the game on the duel 2 she would prob come in 2nd with rachel still being in first. Rachel feared Tori the most and its shown throughout the season..... Also I think Tori would have beaten Theresa but not by much
Also, who do you guys think would have won between Bananas and Tyler without the twist?
I am a Bananas fan, but I think most likely Tyler would have won just because he weighed so much more than Bananas & that elimination catered to Tyler's strengths.
Agreed.. Tyler outweighs him by a decent amount so I'd have to give it to Tyler.
I think if Tori was mentally in the game on the duel 2 she would prob come in 2nd with rachel still being in first. Rachel feared Tori the most and its shown throughout the season..... Also I think Tori would have beaten Theresa but not by much
I think Tori could have pulled out a win. It would have been close like with Brad/Evan.
Tori has never done anything to really deserve to be taken to the top nor made me go "wow shes a great competitor" Shes never had to be a rookie. On her season of road rules she managed to ingrain herself with the vets quickly and on the gauntlet 3 she had brad. I'll give her some credit. She has a great social game. I'm guessing she's always been pretty popular and a social bee growing up and boy does it show. She's never had to really earn her chops and has acted in the past, especially on the gauntlet 3, with a lot of arrogance like she's been a long time player in the challenges. She was a rookie on the rookie team but had the attitude of a vet. It never made sense to me.
Tori has never done anything to really deserve to be taken to the top nor made me go "wow shes a great competitor" Shes never had to be a rookie. On her season of road rules she managed to ingrain herself with the vets quickly and on the gauntlet 3 she had brad. I'll give her some credit. She has a great social game. I'm guessing she's always been pretty popular and a social bee growing up and boy does it show. She's never had to really earn her chops and has acted in the past, especially on the gauntlet 3, with a lot of arrogance like she's been a long time player in the challenges. She was a rookie on the rookie team but had the attitude of a vet. It never made sense to me.
THIS. Plus she is extremely insufferable. It's still a high shame that Ivory never got on the RV & Angel never came back to do another challenge.
Tori has never done anything to really deserve to be taken to the top nor made me go "wow shes a great competitor" Shes never had to be a rookie. On her season of road rules she managed to ingrain herself with the vets quickly and on the gauntlet 3 she had brad. I'll give her some credit. She has a great social game. I'm guessing she's always been pretty popular and a social bee growing up and boy does it show. She's never had to really earn her chops and has acted in the past, especially on the gauntlet 3, with a lot of arrogance like she's been a long time player in the challenges. She was a rookie on the rookie team but had the attitude of a vet. It never made sense to me.
THIS. Plus she is extremely insufferable. It's still a high shame that Ivory never got on the RV & Angel never came back to do another challenge.
No thanks to Angel being back. I hated her sooo much on Viewers Revenge and on Gauntlet 3 she was mediocre. Now I would pay to see Ivory on a challenge.
Tori has never done anything to really deserve to be taken to the top nor made me go "wow shes a great competitor" Shes never had to be a rookie. On her season of road rules she managed to ingrain herself with the vets quickly and on the gauntlet 3 she had brad. I'll give her some credit. She has a great social game. I'm guessing she's always been pretty popular and a social bee growing up and boy does it show. She's never had to really earn her chops and has acted in the past, especially on the gauntlet 3, with a lot of arrogance like she's been a long time player in the challenges. She was a rookie on the rookie team but had the attitude of a vet. It never made sense to me.
I think if Tori was mentally in the game on the duel 2 she would prob come in 2nd with rachel still being in first. Rachel feared Tori the most and its shown throughout the season..... Also I think Tori would have beaten Theresa but not by much
but she wasnt mentally in the game...and she never has been on any season....so you cant attribute an ability(mental tenacity) to somebody hypothetically when they have never shown it. Rachel actually considered Ruthi to be "hands down" her biggest competition. she only went after tori after everyone else had been plucked off. brittani and aneesa all became good friends and made an alliance and agreed to protect each other, so there was only diem and tori left. Diem is a threat in a final but can easily be defeated in an elminatio round so the only person left was tori. it was more of a scenario of "okay, who is tehre left, outside of my alliance, that might have a chance at taking me out?"
tori has a size advantage over a lot of the girls so that makes her a threat because no one wants to face a big person but if you lok at all the top girls, you will see that they all have one thing in common, mental fortitude. laurel, evelyn, rachel, emily, camila, etc.. jodi is kind of a spaz but she is so physically superior that it compensates. competitors have a neural networking that make them tough as rocks and in any competition and if you dont have it then youre not going anywhere. all those girls are just as physically tough if not tougher, then tori but have significantly better mind sets
also, brittani had been outperforming tori by a large margin as well so if you're saying that tori would come in 2nd after rachel, then somewhere along the lines she would have beaten britt and considering how britt was performing, thats unlikely.
even Diem was putting up somewhat better performances than Tori. and aneesa is well...aneesa, a completely unique situation.
i like tori but its tough to make excuses for her duel 2 performance, considering that her performance in duel 2 is more of a rule of her resume rather than an exception. she put up similar performances on gauntlet 3 and cutthroat
Youre not the only one.... Danny always tries to act like he's one of the top dogs, but in six challenges hasn't won one elim. Or been to a final, that's Tyrie bad
I can't stand Tori for her behavior, especially when she cries and gets all annoying. It's like what JEK said; she can't handle the enviornment. Those type of people shouldn't throw themselves into that kind of situation when they're expected to break down and make a complete ***** of themselves.
I don't see her as a good competitior, maybe decent enough to hold her own or something, but I've never seen Tori above good.
For Brad though, my hate towards him started after/during Cutthroat. He treated two of his teammates like shit, kept Dunbar of all people to the end, and then end up winning which just bugged me too much. I know he's good, or borderline good, but I'll be fine not seeing his face again.
I don't understand why people always give Brad shit about Cutthroat when every Vet on the challenge has played this time of game one time or another. Plus usually the end result gets you to a final which is obviously the whole point of the game. How the hell can you complain about him keeping Dunbar when it was right for his game & was the correct move overall considering they won Cutthroat. You would rather him pick Brandon who doesn't have his back & in my opinion wouldn't be able to finish a final based on how weak his endurance has been on the show. Makes total sense lol.
people had a problem with him because he was a coward about it. instead of owning up to his game play, he was trying to play victim and good guy. look at the way he "blamed" tyler in the kitchen lol and the way he was condemning bananas fo r laying a dirty game when he was doing the exact same thing. he would have gotten criticsm for playing the game if he was forthright about it and not a complete hypocrite, but the fact that he was a coward made people really dislike him. cowardice is a trait that people look down on
Youre not the only one.... Danny always tries to act like he's one of the top dogs, but in six challenges hasn't won one elim. Or been to a final, that's Tyrie bad
If you haven't noticed, most of competitors on the show act like that.
I can't stand Tori for her behavior, especially when she cries and gets all annoying. It's like what JEK said; she can't handle the enviornment. Those type of people shouldn't throw themselves into that kind of situation when they're expected to break down and make a complete ***** of themselves.
I don't see her as a good competitior, maybe decent enough to hold her own or something, but I've never seen Tori above good.
For Brad though, my hate towards him started after/during Cutthroat. He treated two of his teammates like shit, kept Dunbar of all people to the end, and then end up winning which just bugged me too much. I know he's good, or borderline good, but I'll be fine not seeing his face again.
I don't understand why people always give Brad shit about Cutthroat when every Vet on the challenge has played this time of game one time or another. Plus usually the end result gets you to a final which is obviously the whole point of the game. How the hell can you complain about him keeping Dunbar when it was right for his game & was the correct move overall considering they won Cutthroat. You would rather him pick Brandon who doesn't have his back & in my opinion wouldn't be able to finish a final based on how weak his endurance has been on the show. Makes total sense lol.
people had a problem with him because he was a coward about it. instead of owning up to his game play, he was trying to play victim and good guy. look at the way he "blamed" tyler in the kitchen lol and the way he was condemning bananas fo r laying a dirty game when he was doing the exact same thing. he would have gotten criticsm for playing the game if he was forthright about it and not a complete hypocrite, but the fact that he was a coward made people really dislike him. cowardice is a trait that people look down on
I don't think he is a coward for not going in. Its part of the game & got him his first win so quit hating lol. Plus Brad actually can be a beast in eliminations from what we have seen in the past. Not to mention he said on the show he was playing Tori's game not his own on Cutthroat. Even know he was a dumb *** for this, would a coward challenge Darrell (who boxes) to a fight lol?
Youre not the only one.... Danny always tries to act like he's one of the top dogs, but in six challenges hasn't won one elim. Or been to a final, that's Tyrie bad
Most of those that have been on the Challenge act just like that.
True but he can't back up what he says and others can. In that vein he's like Tyrie and other guys.
Youre not the only one.... Danny always tries to act like he's one of the top dogs, but in six challenges hasn't won one elim. Or been to a final, that's Tyrie bad
Most of those that have been on the Challenge act just like that.
True but he can't back up what he says and others can. In that vein he's like Tyrie and other guys.
I need an example of that because I don't remember him saying something he can't back up.
I can't stand Tori for her behavior, especially when she cries and gets all annoying. It's like what JEK said; she can't handle the enviornment. Those type of people shouldn't throw themselves into that kind of situation when they're expected to break down and make a complete ***** of themselves.
I don't see her as a good competitior, maybe decent enough to hold her own or something, but I've never seen Tori above good.
For Brad though, my hate towards him started after/during Cutthroat. He treated two of his teammates like shit, kept Dunbar of all people to the end, and then end up winning which just bugged me too much. I know he's good, or borderline good, but I'll be fine not seeing his face again.
I don't understand why people always give Brad shit about Cutthroat when every Vet on the challenge has played this time of game one time or another. Plus usually the end result gets you to a final which is obviously the whole point of the game. How the hell can you complain about him keeping Dunbar when it was right for his game & was the correct move overall considering they won Cutthroat. You would rather him pick Brandon who doesn't have his back & in my opinion wouldn't be able to finish a final based on how weak his endurance has been on the show. Makes total sense lol.
people had a problem with him because he was a coward about it. instead of owning up to his game play, he was trying to play victim and good guy. look at the way he "blamed" tyler in the kitchen lol and the way he was condemning bananas fo r laying a dirty game when he was doing the exact same thing. he would have gotten criticsm for playing the game if he was forthright about it and not a complete hypocrite, but the fact that he was a coward made people really dislike him. cowardice is a trait that people look down on
I don't think he is a coward for not going in. Its part of the game & got him his first win so quit hating lol. Plus Brad actually can be a beast in eliminations from what we have seen in the past. Not to mention he said on the show he was playing Tori's game not his own on Cutthroat. Even know he was a dumb *** for this, would a coward challenge Darrell (who boxes) to a fight lol?
when i say coward its meant in the context of not owning up to his game play. instead of being a badd *** like "hey, it's been 27 seasons and i'm tired of not winning so i'm sorry, im goign to have to throw you in because i want to win and that's how the game is" he was trying to hide his game play by saying that it was tori's decisions or that it's tyler's fault for not going against abe etc. He came across as very scared of how it would affect his image.
there was also a lot of hypocrisy and inconsistencies with im throughout the game. telling tyler he would take the nxt one, balming tyler for not going against abe so he should now go against Derrick, telling paula that everyone needs to go in once, and lastly, bashing bananas because he pays a dirty game when he was playing the exact same thing. ruthlessness is looked down upon yes, but brad made himself more dsliked when he combined ruthlessness with cowardice, hypocrisy, dishonesty, etc.
I really think Tyler would have beaten Bananas in Back Up Off Me. The only think that would have changed, is the Red Team having only the 3 boys (Brad, Dunbar & Tyler) and Blue Team having only 3 girls (Jenn, Emily & Theresa). Red would have still won.
I was Grey Team all the way. They really didn't have anyone I hated on that final team
I think if Tori was mentally in the game on the duel 2 she would prob come in 2nd with rachel still being in first. Rachel feared Tori the most and its shown throughout the season..... Also I think Tori would have beaten Theresa but not by much
Agreed.. Tyler outweighs him by a decent amount so I'd have to give it to Tyler.
I think Tori could have pulled out a win. It would have been close like with Brad/Evan.
I think Blue would've won Riot Shield if they had gotten either or both of Theresa and Johnny back from that elimination.
I agree with this they definitely would have had the advantage & won in Riot Shield if Bananas & Theresa were there.
I had people I didn't like on The Grey team but I was rooting for them. I think they desrved it the most considering all they been through.
I was also rooting for the misfits ( the grey team ) even tho Laurel was acting like a total spoiled ***** towards Cara just because...
Here's another unpopular opinion about Cutthroat.
I didn't like Bottleneck Stampede. Seeing people just wildly running over each others was not entertaining to me.
a bit of topic : but i hate to forget something i want to say that i hated on this post
That was a great mission, cutthroat had so many great missions like that,Gas problems ,Riot act,and gimme a hand
Not unpopular with me. I agree
It was funny to me, especially when the girls beat out ty lol, ty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well a girl was the first one there for every team lol. Plus girls are smaller so they fit easier through the bottlenecks.
I'm pretty sure the plan was for derrick and ty to hold a girl back
Tori has never done anything to really deserve to be taken to the top nor made me go "wow shes a great competitor" Shes never had to be a rookie. On her season of road rules she managed to ingrain herself with the vets quickly and on the gauntlet 3 she had brad. I'll give her some credit. She has a great social game. I'm guessing she's always been pretty popular and a social bee growing up and boy does it show. She's never had to really earn her chops and has acted in the past, especially on the gauntlet 3, with a lot of arrogance like she's been a long time player in the challenges. She was a rookie on the rookie team but had the attitude of a vet. It never made sense to me.
THIS. Plus she is extremely insufferable. It's still a high shame that Ivory never got on the RV & Angel never came back to do another challenge.
No thanks to Angel being back. I hated her sooo much on Viewers Revenge and on Gauntlet 3 she was mediocre. Now I would pay to see Ivory on a challenge.
Yup. Exactly. I agree with this.
but she wasnt mentally in the game...and she never has been on any season....so you cant attribute an ability(mental tenacity) to somebody hypothetically when they have never shown it. Rachel actually considered Ruthi to be "hands down" her biggest competition. she only went after tori after everyone else had been plucked off. brittani and aneesa all became good friends and made an alliance and agreed to protect each other, so there was only diem and tori left. Diem is a threat in a final but can easily be defeated in an elminatio round so the only person left was tori. it was more of a scenario of "okay, who is tehre left, outside of my alliance, that might have a chance at taking me out?"
tori has a size advantage over a lot of the girls so that makes her a threat because no one wants to face a big person but if you lok at all the top girls, you will see that they all have one thing in common, mental fortitude. laurel, evelyn, rachel, emily, camila, etc.. jodi is kind of a spaz but she is so physically superior that it compensates. competitors have a neural networking that make them tough as rocks and in any competition and if you dont have it then youre not going anywhere. all those girls are just as physically tough if not tougher, then tori but have significantly better mind sets
also, brittani had been outperforming tori by a large margin as well so if you're saying that tori would come in 2nd after rachel, then somewhere along the lines she would have beaten britt and considering how britt was performing, thats unlikely.
even Diem was putting up somewhat better performances than Tori. and aneesa is well...aneesa, a completely unique situation.
i like tori but its tough to make excuses for her duel 2 performance, considering that her performance in duel 2 is more of a rule of her resume rather than an exception. she put up similar performances on gauntlet 3 and cutthroat
You know who I also don't like and I forgot.
Danny from Austin.
I hope I'm not the only one.
Youre not the only one.... Danny always tries to act like he's one of the top dogs, but in six challenges hasn't won one elim. Or been to a final, that's Tyrie bad
people had a problem with him because he was a coward about it. instead of owning up to his game play, he was trying to play victim and good guy. look at the way he "blamed" tyler in the kitchen lol and the way he was condemning bananas fo r laying a dirty game when he was doing the exact same thing. he would have gotten criticsm for playing the game if he was forthright about it and not a complete hypocrite, but the fact that he was a coward made people really dislike him. cowardice is a trait that people look down on
If you haven't noticed, most of competitors on the show act like that.
I don't think he is a coward for not going in. Its part of the game & got him his first win so quit hating lol. Plus Brad actually can be a beast in eliminations from what we have seen in the past. Not to mention he said on the show he was playing Tori's game not his own on Cutthroat. Even know he was a dumb *** for this, would a coward challenge Darrell (who boxes) to a fight lol?
True but he can't back up what he says and others can. In that vein he's like Tyrie and other guys.
I need an example of that because I don't remember him saying something he can't back up.
when i say coward its meant in the context of not owning up to his game play. instead of being a badd *** like "hey, it's been 27 seasons and i'm tired of not winning so i'm sorry, im goign to have to throw you in because i want to win and that's how the game is" he was trying to hide his game play by saying that it was tori's decisions or that it's tyler's fault for not going against abe etc. He came across as very scared of how it would affect his image.
there was also a lot of hypocrisy and inconsistencies with im throughout the game. telling tyler he would take the nxt one, balming tyler for not going against abe so he should now go against Derrick, telling paula that everyone needs to go in once, and lastly, bashing bananas because he pays a dirty game when he was playing the exact same thing. ruthlessness is looked down upon yes, but brad made himself more dsliked when he combined ruthlessness with cowardice, hypocrisy, dishonesty, etc.
Just look at their performances on each challenge. They act like they're good competitors but they've never really done well in any challenge.
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