I'm not against the idea of Fresh Meat being on the challenges, the problem is that the ones brought back are either insufferable or plain boring.
Kenny - not funny at all and I feel like they destroyed the franchise (I sound like Debut right now)
Evan - same as Kenny
Big Easy - no explanation needed
Diem - I like her and she actually brought something to the table
Evelyn - immature little brat, though she is a great competitor
Casey - funny as hell but it's worthless athletically
Ryan - meh
Laurel - sometimes I love her, sometimes I hate her
Vinny - meh
Mandi - meh
Cara Maria - I'm over her already
Luke - meh
Theresa - she is ******* nuts but I love her
I wouldn't mind if they brought Aviv, Linette, Noor or Pete.
Agree with your list except for 2 things:
1) Theresa - Sorry she is unlikeable and shady as hell. Yea she's a good compeitor but when the pressure is on, she cracks (Fresh Meat/Rivals 2). Also, her social games SUCKS!!!! ex: Leroy vote to the Jungle (Rivals 2), not voting Laurel in (Free Agents), not getting Jasmine/Jonna in against Cara/Laurel (Rivals)
2) Cara Maria - That's my little baby. I've grown to like CM. I was indifferent with her up until Free Agents. She was the Female MVP for Free Agents (Bananas was Male). If she didn't break her hand, I 100% think she would have won Free Agents. The Finale would have been really close if it was Laurel/CM/Theresa
I do wish Noor, Pete, Chandra and Aviv did more challenges after their FM
I'm not against the idea of Fresh Meat being on the challenges, the problem is that the ones brought back are either insufferable or plain boring.
Kenny - not funny at all and I feel like they destroyed the franchise (I sound like Debut right now)
Evan - same as Kenny
Big Easy - no explanation needed
Diem - I like her and she actually brought something to the table
Evelyn - immature little brat, though she is a great competitor
Casey - funny as hell but it's worthless athletically
Ryan - meh
Laurel - sometimes I love her, sometimes I hate her
Vinny - meh
Mandi - meh
Cara Maria - I'm over her already
Luke - meh
Theresa - she is ******* nuts but I love her
I wouldn't mind if they brought Aviv, Linette, Noor or Pete.
Agree with your list except for 2 things:
1) Theresa - Sorry she is unlikeable and shady as hell. Yea she's a good compeitor but when the pressure is on, she cracks (Fresh Meat/Rivals 2). Also, her social games SUCKS!!!! ex: Leroy vote to the Jungle (Rivals 2), not voting Laurel in (Free Agents), not getting Jasmine/Jonna in against Cara/Laurel (Rivals)
2) Cara Maria - That's my little baby. I've grown to like CM. I was indifferent with her up until Free Agents. She was the Female MVP for Free Agents (Bananas was Male). If she didn't break her hand, I 100% think she would have won Free Agents. The Finale would have been really close if it was Laurel/CM/Theresa
I do wish Noor, Pete, Chandra and Aviv did more challenges after their FM
I know, I'm basically one of three people that like Theresa on this site.
Cara Maria used to be my favorite until Battle of the Exes. I don't even have a reason why I don't like her anymore, I just don't.
I'm not against the idea of Fresh Meat being on the challenges, the problem is that the ones brought back are either insufferable or plain boring.
Kenny - not funny at all and I feel like they destroyed the franchise (I sound like Debut right now)
Evan - same as Kenny
Big Easy - no explanation needed
Diem - I like her and she actually brought something to the table
Evelyn - immature little brat, though she is a great competitor
Casey - funny as hell but it's worthless athletically
Ryan - meh
Laurel - sometimes I love her, sometimes I hate her
Vinny - meh
Mandi - meh
Cara Maria - I'm over her already
Luke - meh
Theresa - she is ******* nuts but I love her
I wouldn't mind if they brought Aviv, Linette, Noor or Pete.
Agree with your list except for 2 things:
1) Theresa - Sorry she is unlikeable and shady as hell. Yea she's a good compeitor but when the pressure is on, she cracks (Fresh Meat/Rivals 2). Also, her social games SUCKS!!!! ex: Leroy vote to the Jungle (Rivals 2), not voting Laurel in (Free Agents), not getting Jasmine/Jonna in against Cara/Laurel (Rivals)
2) Cara Maria - That's my little baby. I've grown to like CM. I was indifferent with her up until Free Agents. She was the Female MVP for Free Agents (Bananas was Male). If she didn't break her hand, I 100% think she would have won Free Agents. The Finale would have been really close if it was Laurel/CM/Theresa
I do wish Noor, Pete, Chandra and Aviv did more challenges after their FM
Noor, Aviv, and Carley need to do more challenges. I'm definitely good with Cara Maria, Laurel, Evelyn and Brandon. But I hate Vinny, Kenny and Evan don't need to be explained, Big Easy is hardly someone I think about, and the rest I don't think about either. What was so good about Linette? Or even Chandra? Pete had nothing to go off from besides the fact that he slept with Jenn.
I'm not against the idea of Fresh Meat being on the challenges, the problem is that the ones brought back are either insufferable or plain boring.
Kenny - not funny at all and I feel like they destroyed the franchise (I sound like Debut right now)
Evan - same as Kenny
Big Easy - no explanation needed
Diem - I like her and she actually brought something to the table
Evelyn - immature little brat, though she is a great competitor
Casey - funny as hell but it's worthless athletically
Ryan - meh
Laurel - sometimes I love her, sometimes I hate her
Vinny - meh
Mandi - meh
Cara Maria - I'm over her already
Luke - meh
Theresa - she is ******* nuts but I love her
I wouldn't mind if they brought Aviv, Linette, Noor or Pete.
Agree with your list except for 2 things:
1) Theresa - Sorry she is unlikeable and shady as hell. Yea she's a good compeitor but when the pressure is on, she cracks (Fresh Meat/Rivals 2). Also, her social games SUCKS!!!! ex: Leroy vote to the Jungle (Rivals 2), not voting Laurel in (Free Agents), not getting Jasmine/Jonna in against Cara/Laurel (Rivals)
2) Cara Maria - That's my little baby. I've grown to like CM. I was indifferent with her up until Free Agents. She was the Female MVP for Free Agents (Bananas was Male). If she didn't break her hand, I 100% think she would have won Free Agents. The Finale would have been really close if it was Laurel/CM/Theresa
I do wish Noor, Pete, Chandra and Aviv did more challenges after their FM
Both one and two. I couldn't have said it better myself!
Kenny- Awesome, hilarious, great tv
Evan- Same with Kenny
Vinny- *********
Evelyn- Cool on some challenges, annoying on others
Big easy- cool guy to hang out with, awful guy to be teamed up with
Diem- Sweetheart
Casey- terrible at challenges, but she was a cutie lol
Ryan- Scrub
Laurel- bit annoying, but she's alright
Cara- same with laurel
Brandon- Awful luck
Theresa- seems like a nice person, but she does crazy stuff
I'm not against the idea of Fresh Meat being on the challenges, the problem is that the ones brought back are either insufferable or plain boring.
Kenny - not funny at all and I feel like they destroyed the franchise (I sound like Debut right now)
Evan - same as Kenny
Big Easy - no explanation needed
Diem - I like her and she actually brought something to the table
Evelyn - immature little brat, though she is a great competitor
Casey - funny as hell but it's worthless athletically
Ryan - meh
Laurel - sometimes I love her, sometimes I hate her
Vinny - meh
Mandi - meh
Cara Maria - I'm over her already
Luke - meh
Theresa - she is ******* nuts but I love her
I wouldn't mind if they brought Aviv, Linette, Noor or Pete.
And see that's the worst of it...I would've been able to accept them as castmembers if any of them had any redeeming qualities. If any of them were likable but NONE of them are. They all came off as either Boring,Useless, or Unlikable. They were all just awful.
Honestly I feel like this was the season that really ruined the shows. The Island, The Ruins, Gauntlet 3, etc. none of that would've happened had it not been for this challenge.
Evan - He obviously only got a good edit because he was paired with Coral. Eventually stabbed her in the back on Gauntlet 3 & went on to become the biggest tool not named Johnny B. Tried way too hard to be funny & have witty one-liners.
Kenny - IMO was the lesser of the 3 evils but was still terrible in his own right....did have SOME funny one-liners but also tried too hard most of the time & honestly only got by due to having a tight alliance + sheeple.
Eric - A fat ***; would come on every show he did after G3 proclaiming he had lost so much weight but still had the mobility of a ****. Never knew WHY they kept asking him back in the first place; he was a non-factor on most of the challenges he did.
Ryan - Who the **** decided it was a good idea to start asking him back needed to be fired. A complete irrelevant all around.
Evelyn - Sore loser, very annoying & took herself way too seriously. Plus she tried to get rid of Coral for no good reason & that's a personal no-no lol. The Island & The Ruins was her karma.
Casey - Useless, useless, useless. Sucked in challenges, not funny & didn't do much of anything. A burden on every team she was on.
Fresh Meat 2
Brandon - cool dude, should've been on an actual season. Always gets the short end of the stick on these shows.
Luke - Also cool, put up with Evelyn's foolishness very professionally & let her show herself to be the brat that she is.
Vinny - Trashy. A big baby & whined about everything.
Cara Maria - I don't mind her but it's her own fault she hasn't won a challenge. She has had nothing but top-notch partners & STILL hasn't won one. She also does tend to victimize herself (really just on Free Agents tho imo, other challenges people were just mad that she wanted alone time)
Laurel - Very arrogant, annoying most of the time & needs somebody to set her straight either physically or verbally (reallyyyyyy want Nia or Latoya to do the latter, or Nia for the former). I appreciate her ******in-like competitive nature & I think she could destroy Evelyn (along with a couple others), plus she put the whip on Paula lol but that's about it.
Theresa - a.k.a. Miss Fail. Up until Rivals 2 her schtick was "have one big fight at the beginning of the season & then become invisible until I go home" and somehow this was enough for them to keep asking her back. Since Rivals 2 it's been "Make stupid moves & dumb decisions that cause somewhat of an uproar in the middle of the season, while being invisible at the beginning & end". Also, that Free Agents reunion was PATHETIC. Says she should punch Laurel & when her bluff is called her explanation for not doing it was "because there's like, lights here" smh. She could be more but seems to settle for "Flop" status.
Mandi - who?
Overall, they pretty much picked the worst out of all of them to come back. So many likeable people who could've brought a different but better vibe to the show but they blew it.
Honestly I feel like this was the season that really ruined the shows. The Island, The Ruins, Gauntlet 3, etc. none of that would've happened had it not been for this challenge.
Evan - He obviously only got a good edit because he was paired with Coral. Eventually stabbed her in the back on Gauntlet 3 & went on to become the biggest tool not named Johnny B. Tried way too hard to be funny & have witty one-liners.
Kenny - IMO was the lesser of the 3 evils but was still terrible in his own right....did have SOME funny one-liners but also tried too hard most of the time & honestly only got by due to having a tight alliance + sheeple.
Eric - A fat ***; would come on every show he did after G3 proclaiming he had lost so much weight but still had the mobility of a ****. Never knew WHY they kept asking him back in the first place; he was a non-factor on most of the challenges he did.
Ryan - Who the **** decided it was a good idea to start asking him back needed to be fired. A complete irrelevant all around.
Evelyn - Sore loser, very annoying & took herself way too seriously. Plus she tried to get rid of Coral for no good reason & that's a personal no-no lol. The Island & The Ruins was her karma.
Casey - Useless, useless, useless. Sucked in challenges, not funny & didn't do much of anything. A burden on every team she was on.
Fresh Meat 2
Brandon - cool dude, should've been on an actual season. Always gets the short end of the stick on these shows.
Luke - Also cool, put up with Evelyn's foolishness very professionally & let her show herself to be the brat that she is.
Vinny - Trashy. A big baby & whined about everything.
Cara Maria - I don't mind her but it's her own fault she hasn't won a challenge. She has had nothing but top-notch partners & STILL hasn't won one. She also does tend to victimize herself (really just on Free Agents tho imo, other challenges people were just mad that she wanted alone time)
Laurel - Very arrogant, annoying most of the time & needs somebody to set her straight either physically or verbally (reallyyyyyy want Nia or Latoya to do the latter, or Nia for the former). I appreciate her ******in-like competitive nature & I think she could destroy Evelyn (along with a couple others), plus she put the whip on Paula lol but that's about it.
Theresa - a.k.a. Miss Fail. Up until Rivals 2 her schtick was "have one big fight at the beginning of the season & then become invisible until I go home" and somehow this was enough for them to keep asking her back. Since Rivals 2 it's been "Make stupid moves & dumb decisions that cause somewhat of an uproar in the middle of the season, while being invisible at the beginning & end". Also, that Free Agents reunion was PATHETIC. Says she should punch Laurel & when her bluff is called her explanation for not doing it was "because there's like, lights here" smh. She could be more but seems to settle for "Flop" status.
Mandi - who?
Overall, they pretty much picked the worst out of all of them to come back. So many likeable people who could've brought a different but better vibe to the show but they blew it.
Damn the hate is real with this kid. Does it make you feel better now that you tore into all those cast members?
Lol....Graphik wasn't the only one doing a list on how they felt about FM...
I know that lol, but he is the only one who wrote hate for every person he talked about. I do wonder at times why some even bother to watch this show. When they comment you would swear the cast members must have hurt them in some way hahaha.
Lol....Graphik wasn't the only one doing a list on how they felt about FM...
I know that lol, but he is the only one who wrote hate for every person he talked about. I do wonder at times why some even bother to watch this show. When they comment you would swear the cast members must have hurt them in some way hahaha.
Lmao I don't mean to be annoying but he did mention good things about Brandon and Luke. Not too mention it felt like all previous posters were going in on the cast as well... They just happened to like more of the FM than he did.
Bischoff please get the stick out of the crack of your ***. I wrote good things about Brandon & Luke, I lean more towards liking Cara Maria if anything & I appreciate what Laurel (& to some extent Evelyn) brought to the show. And of course I liked mostly all the FM they unfortunately didn't ask back. Like Jamie said, there were a couple other posters who also made lists, good & bad.
I've been watching the damn show since 2003, I watched the golden era live on TV. None of these people affect me in any type of way but I have my favorites & I have people who I didn't care for. Most of the Fresh Meat fitting that list. There is NO "hate" for any of these people, they may be good people on real life but on the show, nope.
Some of yall bust a blood vessel whenever somebody has a different opinion than the majority lmao go cry in the corner about it.
Honestly I feel like this was the season that really ruined the shows. The Island, The Ruins, Gauntlet 3, etc. none of that would've happened had it not been for this challenge.
Evan - He obviously only got a good edit because he was paired with Coral. Eventually stabbed her in the back on Gauntlet 3 & went on to become the biggest tool not named Johnny B. Tried way too hard to be funny & have witty one-liners.
Kenny - IMO was the lesser of the 3 evils but was still terrible in his own right....did have SOME funny one-liners but also tried too hard most of the time & honestly only got by due to having a tight alliance + sheeple.
Eric - A fat ***; would come on every show he did after G3 proclaiming he had lost so much weight but still had the mobility of a ****. Never knew WHY they kept asking him back in the first place; he was a non-factor on most of the challenges he did.
Ryan - Who the **** decided it was a good idea to start asking him back needed to be fired. A complete irrelevant all around.
Evelyn - Sore loser, very annoying & took herself way too seriously. Plus she tried to get rid of Coral for no good reason & that's a personal no-no lol. The Island & The Ruins was her karma.
Casey - Useless, useless, useless. Sucked in challenges, not funny & didn't do much of anything. A burden on every team she was on.
Fresh Meat 2
Brandon - cool dude, should've been on an actual season. Always gets the short end of the stick on these shows.
Luke - Also cool, put up with Evelyn's foolishness very professionally & let her show herself to be the brat that she is.
Vinny - Trashy. A big baby & whined about everything.
Cara Maria - I don't mind her but it's her own fault she hasn't won a challenge. She has had nothing but top-notch partners & STILL hasn't won one. She also does tend to victimize herself (really just on Free Agents tho imo, other challenges people were just mad that she wanted alone time)
Laurel - Very arrogant, annoying most of the time & needs somebody to set her straight either physically or verbally (reallyyyyyy want Nia or Latoya to do the latter, or Nia for the former). I appreciate her ******in-like competitive nature & I think she could destroy Evelyn (along with a couple others), plus she put the whip on Paula lol but that's about it.
Theresa - a.k.a. Miss Fail. Up until Rivals 2 her schtick was "have one big fight at the beginning of the season & then become invisible until I go home" and somehow this was enough for them to keep asking her back. Since Rivals 2 it's been "Make stupid moves & dumb decisions that cause somewhat of an uproar in the middle of the season, while being invisible at the beginning & end". Also, that Free Agents reunion was PATHETIC. Says she should punch Laurel & when her bluff is called her explanation for not doing it was "because there's like, lights here" smh. She could be more but seems to settle for "Flop" status.
Mandi - who?
Overall, they pretty much picked the worst out of all of them to come back. So many likeable people who could've brought a different but better vibe to the show but they blew it.
I agree with you soooo much. I have never understood how people like Evelyn. She's a crybaby and a bully. Also, even though I love Theresa that description was spot on.
Bischoff please get the stick out of the crack of your ***. I wrote good things about Brandon & Luke, I lean more towards liking Cara Maria if anything & I appreciate what Laurel (& to some extent Evelyn) brought to the show. And of course I liked mostly all the FM they unfortunately didn't ask back. Like Jamie said, there were a couple other posters who also made lists, good & bad.
I've been watching the damn show since 2003, I watched the golden era live on TV. None of these people affect me in any type of way but I have my favorites & I have people who I didn't care for. Most of the Fresh Meat fitting that list.
Some of yall bust a blood vessel whenever somebody has a different opinion than the majority lmao go cry in the corner about it.
You're starting to become one of my favorites posters here, you tell it like it is.
Bischoff please get the stick out of the crack of your ***. I wrote good things about Brandon & Luke, I lean more towards liking Cara Maria if anything & I appreciate what Laurel (& to some extent Evelyn) brought to the show. And of course I liked mostly all the FM they unfortunately didn't ask back. Like Jamie said, there were a couple other posters who also made lists, good & bad.
I've been watching the damn show since 2003, I watched the golden era live on TV. None of these people affect me in any type of way but I have my favorites & I have people who I didn't care for. Most of the Fresh Meat fitting that list.
Some of yall bust a blood vessel whenever somebody has a different opinion than the majority lmao go cry in the corner about it.
You're starting to become one of my favorites posters here, you tell it like it is.
The only people they brought back from FM 1 I like are Diem & Evelyn. Its funny how terrible Casey is but I hate the guys. For FM2 I didn't like Laurel or Cara really until free agents lol. Brandon and Mandi are alright, I hate the rest. It sucks they brought back pathetic Luke and piece of crap Vinny over Noor.
I am not opposed to the idea of Fresh Meat and I do enjoy watching some FM castmembers more than many actual RW alumni. However, I do question who they decided to bring back and would like to see others instead.
Fresh Meat 1:
Evan: I understand why he was brought back, but it was a big mistake. He tried was too hard to be entertaining, his commentaries always seemed very rehearsed, scripted and inauthentic. I agree he got a good edit on Fresh Meat thanks to Coral. Not only did he turn out to be pretty unlikeable after that, but he used to get too much screentime on every challenge he was on. I'm glad he's gone.
Kenny: I'll admit he was entertaining at times and he seemed the least evil out of the JEK trio, but his Mr Beautiful schtick got old years ago. Instead of showing his true personality, he was trying too hard to play a character on tv, and that's just not what this show is about.
Eric: Unintresting. Unlikeable. Unattractive (which is not a problem at all if a castmember is entertaining to watch. If he's not, he'd better be eyecandy. Eric is none of these things). I have absolutely no idea why he was brought back. It would make sense if he was presented as the villain, but production tried hard to always give him the victim edit, which was just not the case.
Ryan: Who? Why was he brought back?
Evelyn: The only reason people seem to like her is because she's athletic. Which is a stupid reason to like castmember. Oh, and because of her rivalry with JEK, which I do understand. She comes off as axtremely immature, entitled, full of herself and a sore loser. I do not miss her.
Casey: I found her entertaining, funny and likeable. I wish she had been on a RW season. What I hate about The Challenge thse days is that people take it WAY too seriously. I wish she came just for the comic relief factor. That being said, she should NEVER have been cast on The Ruins.
Diem: Enough said. If there was one reason FM was necessary, it was giving us Diem.
Who I would prefer to have seen instead?
Aviv: She seemed to have a cool personality and an interesting background. I wish she had been on an actual RW season.
Fresh Meat 2
I actually find their pool of castmembers better than the first FM season.
Brandon: He was an interesting character on Cutthroat and had an actual storyline. It's unfortunate he's turned into a background character since, as he seems to be a really cool guy outside of the show.
Luke: Adorable. I enjoyed him on FM 2 (as the more likeable and mature of the pair) and as the underdog on Cutthroat. I wish he came back for another one. I can't see him on a pair or individual challenge, but he could be a good addition to a big team season if they ever do one again.
Vinny: The worst possible choice. Jersey Shore reject, uninteresting, unlikeable, unattractive. WHY was he ever brought back? WHY?!
Cara Maria: I'm in the minority (at least on Vevmo) of people who actually like her. She always has a solid storyline, she has an actual personality (whether you like her or not, she comes off as a real person, she's never a background character). Not only is she beautiful, but she's different and really stands out in the crowd. Nowadays she's my favourite castmember. That being said, I agree she's done too many challenges in a row. She should have never done Seasons 2 and Rivals 2. She wasn't prepared and it really did her more harm than good. She should sit one more challenge after Exes 2 before she comes back.
Laurel: Whether she's likeable or not, she's always entertaing. She comes off as a real, complex human being, not a one dimensional tv character. We've also seen her grow and mature throught the years, which I think is what this show is really about. Her rants on Eric and Paula might have come off harsh if you didn't know the real stiry behind them, but I enjoyed them. Because they both deserved it.
Theresa: I never understood her appeal. After so many seasons I still have no idea who Theresa is, I haven't seen a glimpse of her personality. She's never done well at the challenges while she's being hyped up as the real athlete. She's never really done anything that made her seem likeable or interesting other that picking the most stupid, random fights and hooking up with random castmembers, with absolutely no buildup to either of those. I could blame editing, but she's had too many chances to show us who she is and she failed to do this.
Mandi: Who? I actually had to look up the FM2 because I never remember if her name is Mandi or Mindi. That basically sums it up.
Who I would like to see again if I could have my pick:
Carley: It's interesting that none of the winners of FM and FM2 (Aviv and Carley) were ever brought back while they did bring back those eliminated first (Evelyn and Cara Maria) repeatedly. Carley seemed to have personality and, unlike Mandi, wouldn't be wallpaper.
NOOR!!!: He was different, likeable, entertaining, very good looking and he really wanted to come back. Bring him back!
I am not opposed to the idea of Fresh Meat and I do enjoy watching some FM castmembers more than many actual RW alumni. However, I do question who they decided to bring back and would like to see others instead.
Fresh Meat 1:
Evan: I understand why he was brought back, but it was a big mistake. He tried was too hard to be entertaining, his commentaries always seemed very rehearsed, scripted and inauthentic. I agree he got a good edit on Fresh Meat thanks to Coral. Not only did he turn out to be pretty unlikeable after that, but he used to get too much screentime on every challenge he was on. I'm glad he's gone.
They all would rehearse what they were going to say beforehand. Kenny said it in an interview a while back and so did some other cast members saying they all rehearse what they are going to say because it is a tv show and they know what the producers will show. I mean clearly Kenny came up with the Kenny Maria thing beforehand because he asked for the hair before the interview.. Was it still hilarious? yes.
So what if they rehearse their shit before it is a tv show and they are just being stupid/funny. Everyone who has done these shows says Kenny/Evan are the funniest people they've met so clearly they have a sense of humor.
Honestly I feel like this was the season that really ruined the shows. The Island, The Ruins, Gauntlet 3, etc. none of that would've happened had it not been for this challenge.
Evan - He obviously only got a good edit because he was paired with Coral. Eventually stabbed her in the back on Gauntlet 3 & went on to become the biggest tool not named Johnny B. Tried way too hard to be funny & have witty one-liners.
Kenny - IMO was the lesser of the 3 evils but was still terrible in his own right....did have SOME funny one-liners but also tried too hard most of the time & honestly only got by due to having a tight alliance + sheeple.
Eric - A fat ***; would come on every show he did after G3 proclaiming he had lost so much weight but still had the mobility of a ****. Never knew WHY they kept asking him back in the first place; he was a non-factor on most of the challenges he did.
Ryan - Who the **** decided it was a good idea to start asking him back needed to be fired. A complete irrelevant all around.
Evelyn - Sore loser, very annoying & took herself way too seriously. Plus she tried to get rid of Coral for no good reason & that's a personal no-no lol. The Island & The Ruins was her karma.
Casey - Useless, useless, useless. Sucked in challenges, not funny & didn't do much of anything. A burden on every team she was on.
Fresh Meat 2
Brandon - cool dude, should've been on an actual season. Always gets the short end of the stick on these shows.
Luke - Also cool, put up with Evelyn's foolishness very professionally & let her show herself to be the brat that she is.
Vinny - Trashy. A big baby & whined about everything.
Cara Maria - I don't mind her but it's her own fault she hasn't won a challenge. She has had nothing but top-notch partners & STILL hasn't won one. She also does tend to victimize herself (really just on Free Agents tho imo, other challenges people were just mad that she wanted alone time)
Laurel - Very arrogant, annoying most of the time & needs somebody to set her straight either physically or verbally (reallyyyyyy want Nia or Latoya to do the latter, or Nia for the former). I appreciate her ******in-like competitive nature & I think she could destroy Evelyn (along with a couple others), plus she put the whip on Paula lol but that's about it.
Theresa - a.k.a. Miss Fail. Up until Rivals 2 her schtick was "have one big fight at the beginning of the season & then become invisible until I go home" and somehow this was enough for them to keep asking her back. Since Rivals 2 it's been "Make stupid moves & dumb decisions that cause somewhat of an uproar in the middle of the season, while being invisible at the beginning & end". Also, that Free Agents reunion was PATHETIC. Says she should punch Laurel & when her bluff is called her explanation for not doing it was "because there's like, lights here" smh. She could be more but seems to settle for "Flop" status.
Mandi - who?
Overall, they pretty much picked the worst out of all of them to come back. So many likeable people who could've brought a different but better vibe to the show but they blew it.
I agree with you soooo much. I have never understood how people like Evelyn. She's a crybaby and a bully. Also, even though I love Theresa that description was spot on.
I don't really see how's she a bully and as far as crybaby? Well, she was hidnered with a partner on FM2 who was enjoying his time when she wanted to win, in the Ruins her tears and emotions were justified, and the I3 she was annoying, but eh I chalk that up to her just being 19 and immaturity.
I am not opposed to the idea of Fresh Meat and I do enjoy watching some FM castmembers more than many actual RW alumni. However, I do question who they decided to bring back and would like to see others instead.
Fresh Meat 1:
Evan: I understand why he was brought back, but it was a big mistake. He tried was too hard to be entertaining, his commentaries always seemed very rehearsed, scripted and inauthentic. I agree he got a good edit on Fresh Meat thanks to Coral. Not only did he turn out to be pretty unlikeable after that, but he used to get too much screentime on every challenge he was on. I'm glad he's gone.
They all would rehearse what they were going to say beforehand. Kenny said it in an interview a while back and so did some other cast members saying they all rehearse what they are going to say because it is a tv show and they know what the producers will show. I mean clearly Kenny came up with the Kenny Maria thing beforehand because he asked for the hair before the interview.. Was it still hilarious? yes.
So what if they rehearse their shit before it is a tv show and they are just being stupid/funny. Everyone who has done these shows says Kenny/Evan are the funniest people they've met so clearly they have a sense of humor.
Yeah almost certain Devyn did the same, or it at least felt like it in FA.
Honestly I feel like this was the season that really ruined the shows. The Island, The Ruins, Gauntlet 3, etc. none of that would've happened had it not been for this challenge.
Evan - He obviously only got a good edit because he was paired with Coral. Eventually stabbed her in the back on Gauntlet 3 & went on to become the biggest tool not named Johnny B. Tried way too hard to be funny & have witty one-liners.
Kenny - IMO was the lesser of the 3 evils but was still terrible in his own right....did have SOME funny one-liners but also tried too hard most of the time & honestly only got by due to having a tight alliance + sheeple.
Eric - A fat ***; would come on every show he did after G3 proclaiming he had lost so much weight but still had the mobility of a ****. Never knew WHY they kept asking him back in the first place; he was a non-factor on most of the challenges he did.
Ryan - Who the **** decided it was a good idea to start asking him back needed to be fired. A complete irrelevant all around.
Evelyn - Sore loser, very annoying & took herself way too seriously. Plus she tried to get rid of Coral for no good reason & that's a personal no-no lol. The Island & The Ruins was her karma.
Casey - Useless, useless, useless. Sucked in challenges, not funny & didn't do much of anything. A burden on every team she was on.
Fresh Meat 2
Brandon - cool dude, should've been on an actual season. Always gets the short end of the stick on these shows.
Luke - Also cool, put up with Evelyn's foolishness very professionally & let her show herself to be the brat that she is.
Vinny - Trashy. A big baby & whined about everything.
Cara Maria - I don't mind her but it's her own fault she hasn't won a challenge. She has had nothing but top-notch partners & STILL hasn't won one. She also does tend to victimize herself (really just on Free Agents tho imo, other challenges people were just mad that she wanted alone time)
Laurel - Very arrogant, annoying most of the time & needs somebody to set her straight either physically or verbally (reallyyyyyy want Nia or Latoya to do the latter, or Nia for the former). I appreciate her ******in-like competitive nature & I think she could destroy Evelyn (along with a couple others), plus she put the whip on Paula lol but that's about it.
Theresa - a.k.a. Miss Fail. Up until Rivals 2 her schtick was "have one big fight at the beginning of the season & then become invisible until I go home" and somehow this was enough for them to keep asking her back. Since Rivals 2 it's been "Make stupid moves & dumb decisions that cause somewhat of an uproar in the middle of the season, while being invisible at the beginning & end". Also, that Free Agents reunion was PATHETIC. Says she should punch Laurel & when her bluff is called her explanation for not doing it was "because there's like, lights here" smh. She could be more but seems to settle for "Flop" status.
Mandi - who?
Overall, they pretty much picked the worst out of all of them to come back. So many likeable people who could've brought a different but better vibe to the show but they blew it.
I agree with you soooo much. I have never understood how people like Evelyn. She's a crybaby and a bully. Also, even though I love Theresa that description was spot on.
I don't really see how's she a bully and as far as crybaby? Well, she was hidnered with a partner on FM2 who was enjoying his time when she wanted to win, in the Ruins her tears and emotions were justified, and the I3 she was annoying, but eh I chalk that up to her just being 19 and immaturity.
She treated Tonya really bad on the Ruins, obviously not at Kenny or Evan's level, but still. Her little temper tantrum she threw on the Ruins when they pitted her against Kellyanne was hilarious and pathetic. I understand that she is your bff, but getting her out was a guaranteed win. It's not like the end of the world.
Honestly I feel like this was the season that really ruined the shows. The Island, The Ruins, Gauntlet 3, etc. none of that would've happened had it not been for this challenge.
Evan - He obviously only got a good edit because he was paired with Coral. Eventually stabbed her in the back on Gauntlet 3 & went on to become the biggest tool not named Johnny B. Tried way too hard to be funny & have witty one-liners.
Kenny - IMO was the lesser of the 3 evils but was still terrible in his own right....did have SOME funny one-liners but also tried too hard most of the time & honestly only got by due to having a tight alliance + sheeple.
Eric - A fat ***; would come on every show he did after G3 proclaiming he had lost so much weight but still had the mobility of a ****. Never knew WHY they kept asking him back in the first place; he was a non-factor on most of the challenges he did.
Ryan - Who the **** decided it was a good idea to start asking him back needed to be fired. A complete irrelevant all around.
Evelyn - Sore loser, very annoying & took herself way too seriously. Plus she tried to get rid of Coral for no good reason & that's a personal no-no lol. The Island & The Ruins was her karma.
Casey - Useless, useless, useless. Sucked in challenges, not funny & didn't do much of anything. A burden on every team she was on.
Fresh Meat 2
Brandon - cool dude, should've been on an actual season. Always gets the short end of the stick on these shows.
Luke - Also cool, put up with Evelyn's foolishness very professionally & let her show herself to be the brat that she is.
Vinny - Trashy. A big baby & whined about everything.
Cara Maria - I don't mind her but it's her own fault she hasn't won a challenge. She has had nothing but top-notch partners & STILL hasn't won one. She also does tend to victimize herself (really just on Free Agents tho imo, other challenges people were just mad that she wanted alone time)
Laurel - Very arrogant, annoying most of the time & needs somebody to set her straight either physically or verbally (reallyyyyyy want Nia or Latoya to do the latter, or Nia for the former). I appreciate her ******in-like competitive nature & I think she could destroy Evelyn (along with a couple others), plus she put the whip on Paula lol but that's about it.
Theresa - a.k.a. Miss Fail. Up until Rivals 2 her schtick was "have one big fight at the beginning of the season & then become invisible until I go home" and somehow this was enough for them to keep asking her back. Since Rivals 2 it's been "Make stupid moves & dumb decisions that cause somewhat of an uproar in the middle of the season, while being invisible at the beginning & end". Also, that Free Agents reunion was PATHETIC. Says she should punch Laurel & when her bluff is called her explanation for not doing it was "because there's like, lights here" smh. She could be more but seems to settle for "Flop" status.
Mandi - who?
Overall, they pretty much picked the worst out of all of them to come back. So many likeable people who could've brought a different but better vibe to the show but they blew it.
I agree with you soooo much. I have never understood how people like Evelyn. She's a crybaby and a bully. Also, even though I love Theresa that description was spot on.
I don't really see how's she a bully and as far as crybaby? Well, she was hidnered with a partner on FM2 who was enjoying his time when she wanted to win, in the Ruins her tears and emotions were justified, and the I3 she was annoying, but eh I chalk that up to her just being 19 and immaturity.
She treated Tonya really bad on the Ruins, obviously not at Kenny or Evan's level, but still. Her little temper tantrum she threw on the Ruins when they pitted her against Kellyanne was hilarious and pathetic. I understand that she is your bff, but getting her out was a guaranteed win. It's not like the end of the world.
I think really bad is a pretty big statement especially since we saw Ev and Derrick help Tonya to her room. I thought her and Wes' meltdown was great--the Champions had the win locked up either way, even without Shauvon and Casey on that team, the Champions were just so much better than the Challengers.
Whats your opinion on Brandon?
Hahaha I completely forgot him, I think that's sums how I feel about him. I found him to be a good competitor, he's just not entertaining at all.
Agree with your list except for 2 things:
1) Theresa - Sorry she is unlikeable and shady as hell. Yea she's a good compeitor but when the pressure is on, she cracks (Fresh Meat/Rivals 2). Also, her social games SUCKS!!!! ex: Leroy vote to the Jungle (Rivals 2), not voting Laurel in (Free Agents), not getting Jasmine/Jonna in against Cara/Laurel (Rivals)
2) Cara Maria - That's my little baby. I've grown to like CM. I was indifferent with her up until Free Agents. She was the Female MVP for Free Agents (Bananas was Male). If she didn't break her hand, I 100% think she would have won Free Agents. The Finale would have been really close if it was Laurel/CM/Theresa
I do wish Noor, Pete, Chandra and Aviv did more challenges after their FM
I know, I'm basically one of three people that like Theresa on this site.
Cara Maria used to be my favorite until Battle of the Exes. I don't even have a reason why I don't like her anymore, I just don't.
Noor, Aviv, and Carley need to do more challenges. I'm definitely good with Cara Maria, Laurel, Evelyn and Brandon. But I hate Vinny, Kenny and Evan don't need to be explained, Big Easy is hardly someone I think about, and the rest I don't think about either. What was so good about Linette? Or even Chandra? Pete had nothing to go off from besides the fact that he slept with Jenn.
Both one and two. I couldn't have said it better myself!
Eh, you could argue those listed were boring as well.
Kenny- Awesome, hilarious, great tv
Evan- Same with Kenny
Vinny- *********
Evelyn- Cool on some challenges, annoying on others
Big easy- cool guy to hang out with, awful guy to be teamed up with
Diem- Sweetheart
Casey- terrible at challenges, but she was a cutie lol
Ryan- Scrub
Laurel- bit annoying, but she's alright
Cara- same with laurel
Brandon- Awful luck
Theresa- seems like a nice person, but she does crazy stuff
And see that's the worst of it...I would've been able to accept them as castmembers if any of them had any redeeming qualities. If any of them were likable but NONE of them are. They all came off as either Boring,Useless, or Unlikable. They were all just awful.
Going through all the castmembers brought back:
Casey: hilariously bad at challenges, her doing the obstacle course alone was amazing.
Diem: very likable with a good story and had probably the most iconic relationship in the show's history.
Easy: gross
Evan: found him pretty annoying on Ruins, but he's actually not as bad as his other buddies imo.
Evelyn: love her and her prowess in the challenges and how passionate she is.
Kenny: really couldn't stand him.
Ryan: pretty much a background character.
Brandon: eh, see Ryan though, at least he's more likable and was an underdog on Cutthroat
Cara: loved her for her first few shows, but she's gotten old for me. I still like her though.
Laurel: I know people hate her for her attitude, but I love it and how evil she can get. I also enjoyed seeing her rip into Easy and Paula very much.
Luke: he's a pretty decent side-character.
Mandi: see Ryan
Theresa: from Rivals 2 moving forward she's been a big drama-starter and drama I've enjoyed. Her stupidity is fun to watch!
Vinny: see Easy
I'll go through the FM brought back
Casey: I think she is funny and she was entertaining by how bad she sucked but sometimes it got old aka during the ruins.
Diem: good competitor with a great heart. One of the best stories ever seen on the show.
Easy: Not only does he suck, he is an *******.
Evan: probably the funniest person to ever be on the show. He was a great competitor who always played a good game. I miss him
Evelyn: best female overall from the challenges. Some challenges I hated her but sometimes I liked her.
Kenny: Mr. ******* beautiful. Hilarious and hott af
Ryan: didn't add much
Brandon: boring, i always forget about him
Cara: she is a good competitor but i absolutely can't stand her.
Laurel: I like her most of the time. She goes too far when she is drunk but she isn't as bad as people make her out to be. She is also a beast
Luke: annoying...his obsession with Camila was just weird..
Mandi: I love her and I think she is underrated...
Theresa: I don't hate her or love her. She is just stupid when it comes to the game.
Vinny: he thinks he is the shit but he sucks
Fresh Meat 1
Honestly I feel like this was the season that really ruined the shows. The Island, The Ruins, Gauntlet 3, etc. none of that would've happened had it not been for this challenge.
Evan - He obviously only got a good edit because he was paired with Coral. Eventually stabbed her in the back on Gauntlet 3 & went on to become the biggest tool not named Johnny B. Tried way too hard to be funny & have witty one-liners.
Kenny - IMO was the lesser of the 3 evils but was still terrible in his own right....did have SOME funny one-liners but also tried too hard most of the time & honestly only got by due to having a tight alliance + sheeple.
Eric - A fat ***; would come on every show he did after G3 proclaiming he had lost so much weight but still had the mobility of a ****. Never knew WHY they kept asking him back in the first place; he was a non-factor on most of the challenges he did.
Ryan - Who the **** decided it was a good idea to start asking him back needed to be fired. A complete irrelevant all around.
Evelyn - Sore loser, very annoying & took herself way too seriously. Plus she tried to get rid of Coral for no good reason & that's a personal no-no lol. The Island & The Ruins was her karma.
Casey - Useless, useless, useless. Sucked in challenges, not funny & didn't do much of anything. A burden on every team she was on.
Fresh Meat 2
Brandon - cool dude, should've been on an actual season. Always gets the short end of the stick on these shows.
Luke - Also cool, put up with Evelyn's foolishness very professionally & let her show herself to be the brat that she is.
Vinny - Trashy. A big baby & whined about everything.
Cara Maria - I don't mind her but it's her own fault she hasn't won a challenge. She has had nothing but top-notch partners & STILL hasn't won one. She also does tend to victimize herself (really just on Free Agents tho imo, other challenges people were just mad that she wanted alone time)
Laurel - Very arrogant, annoying most of the time & needs somebody to set her straight either physically or verbally (reallyyyyyy want Nia or Latoya to do the latter, or Nia for the former). I appreciate her ******in-like competitive nature & I think she could destroy Evelyn (along with a couple others), plus she put the whip on Paula lol but that's about it.
Theresa - a.k.a. Miss Fail. Up until Rivals 2 her schtick was "have one big fight at the beginning of the season & then become invisible until I go home" and somehow this was enough for them to keep asking her back. Since Rivals 2 it's been "Make stupid moves & dumb decisions that cause somewhat of an uproar in the middle of the season, while being invisible at the beginning & end". Also, that Free Agents reunion was PATHETIC. Says she should punch Laurel & when her bluff is called her explanation for not doing it was "because there's like, lights here" smh. She could be more but seems to settle for "Flop" status.
Mandi - who?
Overall, they pretty much picked the worst out of all of them to come back. So many likeable people who could've brought a different but better vibe to the show but they blew it.
Lmao miss fail!!! Omg!!
Damn the hate is real with this kid. Does it make you feel better now that you tore into all those cast members?
Lol....Graphik wasn't the only one doing a list on how they felt about FM...
I know that lol, but he is the only one who wrote hate for every person he talked about. I do wonder at times why some even bother to watch this show. When they comment you would swear the cast members must have hurt them in some way hahaha.
Lmao I don't mean to be annoying but he did mention good things about Brandon and Luke. Not too mention it felt like all previous posters were going in on the cast as well... They just happened to like more of the FM than he did.
And Graphik is just hilarious lmao.
Bischoff please get the stick out of the crack of your ***. I wrote good things about Brandon & Luke, I lean more towards liking Cara Maria if anything & I appreciate what Laurel (& to some extent Evelyn) brought to the show. And of course I liked mostly all the FM they unfortunately didn't ask back. Like Jamie said, there were a couple other posters who also made lists, good & bad.
I've been watching the damn show since 2003, I watched the golden era live on TV. None of these people affect me in any type of way but I have my favorites & I have people who I didn't care for. Most of the Fresh Meat fitting that list. There is NO "hate" for any of these people, they may be good people on real life but on the show, nope.
Some of yall bust a blood vessel whenever somebody has a different opinion than the majority lmao go cry in the corner about it.
I agree with you soooo much. I have never understood how people like Evelyn. She's a crybaby and a bully. Also, even though I love Theresa that description was spot on.
You're starting to become one of my favorites posters here, you tell it like it is.
I think they chose the right people from fresh meat back, you have to have different crazy personalities, and this group got that, In Spades.
I think they chose the right people from fresh meat back, you have to have different crazy personalities, and this group got that, In Spades.
Much respect!
The only people they brought back from FM 1 I like are Diem & Evelyn. Its funny how terrible Casey is but I hate the guys. For FM2 I didn't like Laurel or Cara really until free agents lol. Brandon and Mandi are alright, I hate the rest. It sucks they brought back pathetic Luke and piece of crap Vinny over Noor.
I am not opposed to the idea of Fresh Meat and I do enjoy watching some FM castmembers more than many actual RW alumni. However, I do question who they decided to bring back and would like to see others instead.
Fresh Meat 1:
Evan: I understand why he was brought back, but it was a big mistake. He tried was too hard to be entertaining, his commentaries always seemed very rehearsed, scripted and inauthentic. I agree he got a good edit on Fresh Meat thanks to Coral. Not only did he turn out to be pretty unlikeable after that, but he used to get too much screentime on every challenge he was on. I'm glad he's gone.
Kenny: I'll admit he was entertaining at times and he seemed the least evil out of the JEK trio, but his Mr Beautiful schtick got old years ago. Instead of showing his true personality, he was trying too hard to play a character on tv, and that's just not what this show is about.
Eric: Unintresting. Unlikeable. Unattractive (which is not a problem at all if a castmember is entertaining to watch. If he's not, he'd better be eyecandy. Eric is none of these things). I have absolutely no idea why he was brought back. It would make sense if he was presented as the villain, but production tried hard to always give him the victim edit, which was just not the case.
Ryan: Who? Why was he brought back?
Evelyn: The only reason people seem to like her is because she's athletic. Which is a stupid reason to like castmember. Oh, and because of her rivalry with JEK, which I do understand. She comes off as axtremely immature, entitled, full of herself and a sore loser. I do not miss her.
Casey: I found her entertaining, funny and likeable. I wish she had been on a RW season. What I hate about The Challenge thse days is that people take it WAY too seriously. I wish she came just for the comic relief factor. That being said, she should NEVER have been cast on The Ruins.
Diem: Enough said. If there was one reason FM was necessary, it was giving us Diem.
Who I would prefer to have seen instead?
Aviv: She seemed to have a cool personality and an interesting background. I wish she had been on an actual RW season.
Fresh Meat 2
I actually find their pool of castmembers better than the first FM season.
Brandon: He was an interesting character on Cutthroat and had an actual storyline. It's unfortunate he's turned into a background character since, as he seems to be a really cool guy outside of the show.
Luke: Adorable. I enjoyed him on FM 2 (as the more likeable and mature of the pair) and as the underdog on Cutthroat. I wish he came back for another one. I can't see him on a pair or individual challenge, but he could be a good addition to a big team season if they ever do one again.
Vinny: The worst possible choice. Jersey Shore reject, uninteresting, unlikeable, unattractive. WHY was he ever brought back? WHY?!
Cara Maria: I'm in the minority (at least on Vevmo) of people who actually like her. She always has a solid storyline, she has an actual personality (whether you like her or not, she comes off as a real person, she's never a background character). Not only is she beautiful, but she's different and really stands out in the crowd. Nowadays she's my favourite castmember. That being said, I agree she's done too many challenges in a row. She should have never done Seasons 2 and Rivals 2. She wasn't prepared and it really did her more harm than good. She should sit one more challenge after Exes 2 before she comes back.
Laurel: Whether she's likeable or not, she's always entertaing. She comes off as a real, complex human being, not a one dimensional tv character. We've also seen her grow and mature throught the years, which I think is what this show is really about. Her rants on Eric and Paula might have come off harsh if you didn't know the real stiry behind them, but I enjoyed them. Because they both deserved it.
Theresa: I never understood her appeal. After so many seasons I still have no idea who Theresa is, I haven't seen a glimpse of her personality. She's never done well at the challenges while she's being hyped up as the real athlete. She's never really done anything that made her seem likeable or interesting other that picking the most stupid, random fights and hooking up with random castmembers, with absolutely no buildup to either of those. I could blame editing, but she's had too many chances to show us who she is and she failed to do this.
Mandi: Who? I actually had to look up the FM2 because I never remember if her name is Mandi or Mindi. That basically sums it up.
Who I would like to see again if I could have my pick:
Carley: It's interesting that none of the winners of FM and FM2 (Aviv and Carley) were ever brought back while they did bring back those eliminated first (Evelyn and Cara Maria) repeatedly. Carley seemed to have personality and, unlike Mandi, wouldn't be wallpaper.
NOOR!!!: He was different, likeable, entertaining, very good looking and he really wanted to come back. Bring him back!
They all would rehearse what they were going to say beforehand. Kenny said it in an interview a while back and so did some other cast members saying they all rehearse what they are going to say because it is a tv show and they know what the producers will show. I mean clearly Kenny came up with the Kenny Maria thing beforehand because he asked for the hair before the interview.. Was it still hilarious? yes.
So what if they rehearse their shit before it is a tv show and they are just being stupid/funny. Everyone who has done these shows says Kenny/Evan are the funniest people they've met so clearly they have a sense of humor.
I don't really see how's she a bully and as far as crybaby? Well, she was hidnered with a partner on FM2 who was enjoying his time when she wanted to win, in the Ruins her tears and emotions were justified, and the I3 she was annoying, but eh I chalk that up to her just being 19 and immaturity.
Yeah almost certain Devyn did the same, or it at least felt like it in FA.
She treated Tonya really bad on the Ruins, obviously not at Kenny or Evan's level, but still. Her little temper tantrum she threw on the Ruins when they pitted her against Kellyanne was hilarious and pathetic. I understand that she is your bff, but getting her out was a guaranteed win. It's not like the end of the world.
I think really bad is a pretty big statement especially since we saw Ev and Derrick help Tonya to her room. I thought her and Wes' meltdown was great--the Champions had the win locked up either way, even without Shauvon and Casey on that team, the Champions were just so much better than the Challengers.
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