CT and Adam fight

[quote=V1man;58165]Actually, a lot of people attempted to stop what happened. I'm hopefully it will be shown either during the episode or the aftershow. What I was trying to say is that while as a human being you want to do something to help, from a legal perspective, it is not necessarily wise to do so. Policing the set is BMPs job, not the cast members.[/quote] I still say that this was a preconceived plan by Adam and "[B]others[/B]" to provoke CT .... and it worked. Of course, CT could have handed it differently, as could Adam. I always felt that CT wasn't at fault alone. When it all pans out, I just wonder what Adam's take was from the prize money? He should have gotten a gaurunteed sum from which ever male wins, places, and show. He did them all a huge favor because CT was guarunteed 1st, 2nd, or 3rd depending on how he wanted to play it. From the previews of the duels, they were catered to him. The easy play for him would have been to take out the so called big guns, and leave the weak until the end. From what I see, unlike past duels .... it looks like DQs are virtually impossible.

I have never laughed at anything Adam has done before but when CT was telling him he'd let him have the first hit i thought it was hilarious when Adam was like "I'll give you the old salt n peppa" while doing a fighting stance thing. That was funny. What would everyone think of CT if he came onto a show as a totally new person? Like just completely changed, while still having this history?

[quote=RMD1;58154]Thats funny. I just checked my facebook it look like he has deleted his acount. He did have over 1000 friends, private pictures,and a quote regarding his brotherin his about me box.[/quote] Yeah that facebook was legit. Why did he delete it? Did we stalk him too much?!

Man everyone is talking about this whole fight. I can't wait for tomorrow.

I'm hyped for it, I still can't believe how viciously he punched Adam, I feel like his body lost it for a whole two seconds before he got his face grabbed.

Im over this fight... Everytime people talk about it, it kinda bores me. I'm just waiting for other stuff in this challenge.

CT needs to move on with his life and stop with this ******* tough guy front he puts on.

[quote=V1man;58136]One person who used to be very close to him says CT has no facebook account.[/quote] I swear he had one this morning, lol. He even posted the fight, and said he was waiting for the shit storm to start. Thats where I origanally saw the fight attached to a facebook account. and his friends cheered him on saying Adam got exactly what he deserved, someone actually askd him how he got the bkack eye,and he said it wasnt adam, he thought he hit it somewhere. he must erased it after the shit storm lol

[quote=jem3772;58223]I swear he had one this morning, lol. He even posted the fight, and said he was waiting for the shit storm to start. Thats where I origanally saw the fight attached to a facebook account. and his friends cheered him on saying Adam got exactly what he deserved, someone actually askd him how he got the bkack eye,and he said it wasnt adam, he thought he hit it somewhere. he must erased it after the shit storm lol[/quote] CT's facebook is back! We are such stalkers, he he. It will be interesting to see the argument with Diem. You can see him smirking in the corner as Adam was talking to Diem. He told Diem "Do whatever you want" as he walked away and she grabbed his shirt.

[quote=deco20;58102]Agree in 100% so far, but like LilysMom said, let's wait for the whole story... I don't have CT as a "friend" on Facebook, i don't even have an account on Facebook because i'm from Poland :p... so can you tell me what his friends say about this fight ?? And what CT says about it??[/quote] CT's facebook is back up...this is his status [URL="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=749211899&ref=nf"][COLOR=#3b5998][B]Chris Tamburello[/B][/COLOR][/URL][B][COLOR=#444444] [/COLOR][/B]ain't never crossed a man who didnt deserve it. and then these are the replies... [URL="http://www.facebook.com/mobile/"][SIZE=1][COLOR=#3b5998][/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL][U][SIZE=1][COLOR=#3b5998][/COLOR][/SIZE][/U] kickin *** again this season? haha, when does it start? [URL="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=749211899"][COLOR=#3b5998]Chris Tamburello[/COLOR][/URL][SIZE=1] at 2:05am April 8[/SIZE] Tomorrow night brah, get ready u got kicked out the first day again? Kaboom, rocked him and dropped him. wow why are you so perfect? The last one was from a girl, he gets encouraged. in another thread, someone asked why he didnt take dunbar on... this was his reply No reason to, he's a cool guy. The big hogs aren't the ones going around spouting their mouths off on these things, it's the little yippy pocket purse puppies that are barking all the time.

I can't wait till tonight to see what really happened!

thanks jem3772!! So it seems obvious but what do you guys think, CT will not be invited to any challenge in the future?? Or maybe we will have similar situation to Abram's case?? V1, do you know anything about that??

[quote=faceless;58163]I have a question for everyone. V said that the other guy castmembers didn't want to get involved because if they had gotten hurt they would have had to pay for all the costs themselves and all that stuff. But remember during G3 when we all congratulated Brad for being the only good guy and standing up for Eric even though it costed a lot of money and how we agreed with him that a persons well being and life is more important then money? Then how come some people understand or think it was right for those castmembers like Mark, or Brad, not trying to break up the fight, because clearly, if Dunbar and Eric weren't there, Adam would have gotten seriously hurt and it wouldn't have just been Eric's bed that got destroyed?[/quote] When a person is ill and needs some help, compared to two people (two grown men) getting into a fight on their own - it is not the same thing to me. I felt most of the vet team on G3 were being disgusting human beings by not stopping for someone whose health was in serious jeopardy. Not only not wanting to stop, but they were being extremely rude and nasty to him. It was a situation of someone being down and needing help, and only one person wanted to help. Besides, if they paced things better and let Eric rest along the way, they might have had a chance to win still. In the CT and Adam situation, both of them were fighting each other. It was a mutual thing, and people had already tried to stop things from escalating (i.e. Issac talking to them before the physical stuff started). Both of them were going for each other - not just Adam being beat up and picked on by CT. And once they were fighting, there were a few people who tried to hold them back (Dunbar, Eric, and Derek was helping some as well). It's not one person was trying to stop it and the other guys were egging them on to beat each other to death. And then there was the possibility of the other guys facing physical harm over a fight that seemed to be started for something that wasn't a good cause.

[QUOTE=RW561015;58299]When a person is ill and needs some help, compared to two people (two grown men) getting into a fight on their own - it is not the same thing to me. I felt most of the vet team on G3 were being disgusting human beings by not stopping for someone whose health was in serious jeopardy. Not only not wanting to stop, but they were being extremely rude and nasty to him. It was a situation of someone being down and needing help, and only one person wanted to help. Besides, if they paced things better and let Eric rest along the way, they might have had a chance to win still. In the CT and Adam situation, both of them were fighting each other. It was a mutual thing, and people had already tried to stop things from escalating (i.e. Issac talking to them before the physical stuff started). Both of them were going for each other - not just Adam being beat up and picked on by CT. And once they were fighting, there were a few people who tried to hold them back (Dunbar, Eric, and Derek was helping some as well). It's not one person was trying to stop it and the other guys were egging them on to beat each other to death. And then there was the possibility of the other guys facing physical harm over a fight that seemed to be started for something that[B] wasn't a good cause.[/B][/QUOTE] Do you know the cause?

[quote=V1man;58305]Do you know the cause?[/quote] Clarification - cause based on what I've seen so far. I am still thinking something from the beginning is left to be explained in order to show us how they got to insulting each other and that leading to blows, but the cause of the fight didn't seem to be over something I'd consider super horrible or extremely important. Not to say that people having hurt feelings or past beefs is nothing. But I'm not a proponent of physical fighting, so for me to really think there might be some justification for a physical fight would mean there is something extremely serious going on. So far I haven't seen this fight to be a fight based on someone doing something harmful to someone else's family/loved ones, for someone stealing something valuable from another, or something like that. If something like that did happen, I'd understand. I have heard (from the Adam & Landon clip) that CT was messing with Issac, though. I guess most of the answers left to this ordeal will be given tonight.

[QUOTE=RW561015;58421]Clarification - cause based on what I've seen so far. I am still thinking something from the beginning is left to be explained in order to show us how they got to insulting each other and that leading to blows, but the cause of the fight didn't seem to be over something I'd consider super horrible or extremely important. Not to say that people having hurt feelings or past beefs is nothing. But I'm not a proponent of physical fighting, so for me to really think there might be some justification for a physical fight would mean there is something extremely serious going on. So far I haven't seen this fight to be a fight based on someone doing something harmful to someone else's family/loved ones, for someone stealing something valuable from another, or something like that. If something like that did happen, I'd understand. I have heard (from the Adam & Landon clip) that CT was messing with Issac, though. I guess most of the answers left to this ordeal will be given tonight.[/QUOTE] What you should see is an event of some significance that happened during/after the party. That event is the trigger for everything else that happened in the videos that you all have seen.

The fight kind of reminded me of the fight between Puck and David on the 1st episode of Battle Of The Sexes. Except that only David went home and Puck stayed. Puck and CT were both known for being violent or mean. It happened on the 1st episode and involved a white person and black person.

[quote=jhl182;59181]The fight kind of reminded me of the fight between Puck and David on the 1st episode of Battle Of The Sexes. Except that only David went home and Puck stayed. Puck and CT were both known for being violent or mean. It happened on the 1st episode and involved a white person and black person.[/quote] I guess, except if I remember correctly Puck only spit at David and David opted to leave because he didn't feel "safe" with Puck there and was upset that Puck wasn't going to be forced to leave. I can see how it is similar because there was a back and forth and it was a big ordeal, but level of violence and intensity wise I don't really see any similarities.

[QUOTE=tatertots;59186]I guess, except if I remember correctly Puck only spit at David and David opted to leave because he didn't feel "safe" with Puck there and was upset that Puck wasn't going to be forced to leave. I can see how it is similar because there was a back and forth and it was a big ordeal, but level of violence and intensity wise I don't really see any similarities.[/QUOTE] Actually, David was spitting at Beth but Puck just happened to be in the way.

[quote=V1man;59195]Actually, David was spitting at Beth but Puck just happened to be in the way.[/quote] Well during the opening credits David went up to Puck while tugging the rope and spit right in his face.

[QUOTE=jhl182;59229]Well during the opening credits David went up to Puck while tugging the rope and spit right in his face.[/QUOTE] I'm only telling you what both Beth and Puck told me. I have no reason to doubt either one since they dislike each other.

[quote=V1man;59195]Actually, David was spitting at Beth but Puck just happened to be in the way.[/quote] Oh right! My bad, I haven't seen that challenge in a while so I was just going off of what I could remember.

I would love to know what type of deal Adam has with BMP. If I was Adam I would have sued BMP because they did not provide ample security and he was physically assaulted. CT had no business being at this challenge with all his personal issues and fueling him with alcohol was just asking for trouble. I hope that Adam at least got reimbursed for his medical bills. I seriously hope that CT gets some type of professional help because he has a lot of problems going on. I'm not sure of his age but he really does not look like his old self. Although I have never found him attractive personally (the unibrow he was sporting in Paris is forever etched in my head) his personality is what really makes him ugly IMO. He also seems to have a bad attitude towards women and how Diem allowed herself to be disrespected by him when they were together really makes me wonder if he was ever physically abusive towards women in the past. Seems to me he has that macho attitude and sees women as pawns. I really don't understand why MTV keeps allowing him to return for these challenges when he has engaged in violence with another cast member at least 3 times previously. If they want to feature him on a show where he can fight let him go on that Bully show they have and let him fight with some guys his own size.

[quote=joliny;59247]I would love to know what type of deal Adam has with BMP. If I was Adam I would have sued BMP because they did not provide ample security and he was physically assaulted. CT had no business being at this challenge with all his personal issues and fueling him with alcohol was just asking for trouble. I hope that Adam at least got reimbursed for his medical bills. I seriously hope that CT gets some type of professional help because he has a lot of problems going on. I'm not sure of his age but he really does not look like his old self. Although I have never found him attractive personally (the unibrow he was sporting in Paris is forever etched in my head) his personality is what really makes him ugly IMO. He also seems to have a bad attitude towards women and how Diem allowed herself to be disrespected by him when they were together really makes me wonder if he was ever physically abusive towards women in the past. Seems to me he has that macho attitude and sees women as pawns. [B]I really don't understand why MTV keeps allowing him to return for these challenges when he has engaged in violence with another cast member at least 3 times previously. If they want to feature him on a show where he can fight let him go on that Bully show they have and let him fight with some guys his own size.[/quote] You know when you really think about it. It would be interesting to see how Ct would do against an MMA fighter on Bully Beatdown. [/B]

It all can be summed up as.. [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]1) CT is a loose cannon.. (or Juice Cannon might be a better explanation) [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]2) Adam provoked the fight [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]3) Diem asked several cast members about the CT/Shavon moans [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]4) Some cast members sold CT out and some played dumb [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]5) Adam made sure Diem knew what happened[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]All in all the fight made for good television for a drama filled season open.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]MTV got their guarantee crazed CT footage. (and even with CT's physical on air past they absolutely KNEW he was going to come in dangerous and uneven for this challenge) [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Adam getting sent home wasn’t to momentous, he's generally not interesting and although and alright competitor he wasn’t going to make it to the end.. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Only possible positive that could of came out of it was the replacements, but then we got... [/SIZE][/FONT] - [B]STONEDWORLD[/B]

[QUOTE=StonedWorld;59301]It all can be summed up as.. [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]1) CT is a loose cannon.. (or Juice Cannon might be a better explanation) [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]2) Adam provoked the fight [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]3) Diem asked several cast members about the CT/Shavon moans [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]4) Some cast members sold CT out and some played dumb [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=2]5) Adam made sure Diem knew what happened[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]All in all the fight made for good television for a drama filled season open.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]MTV got their guarantee crazed CT footage. (and even with CT's physical on air past they absolutely KNEW he was going to come in dangerous and uneven for this challenge) [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Adam getting sent home wasn’t to momentous, he's generally not interesting and although and alright competitor he wasn’t going to make it to the end.. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Only possible positive that could of came out of it was the replacements, but then we got... [/SIZE][/FONT] - [B]STONEDWORLD[/B][/QUOTE] Always great to have your perspective. What did you think of the edit of the Aftershow? It looked like a Jon Murray version of "reality rehab" for CT so they can bring him back.

[quote=V1man;59313]Always great to have your perspective. What did you think of the edit of the Aftershow? It looked like a Jon Murray version of "reality rehab" for CT so they can bring him back.[/quote] Didnt catch the Aftershow, Ill try and watch it online tonight.

I'm gonna say this. All of the parties involved in the Drama came out looking bad. That is all.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;59286]You know when you really think about it. It would be interesting to see how Ct would do against an MMA fighter on Bully Beatdown. [/B][/QUOTE] I had addressed this once before on another thread thinking CT would probably not do that bad but I was just wondering if he would need to be pumped up on alcohol and adrenaline from the shit talking leading up to fights to really get into them then way he does...but I don't think I can call it either way, he is unpredictable at the weirdest times yet very predictable in the obvious moments.