[QUOTE=cystic;225902]That is interesting, seeing the self-serving bias from the Abe-Cara party vs the Laurel-Sarah party. Turns out one member from each party cost them the finals. So none of them win the argument there. :D[/QUOTE]
LOL, so true and well said. Both the tv promo and the sneak that were shown, show that. Can't wait to watch the reunion and the the s#*t they should of shown. To me its usually better than the season.
To me I feel like there are two moments which decided that Red was going to win. Laurel not throwing it was the first as Abram would've probably gone in and either taken out Tyler/Brad/Dunbar or lost, either way Derrick still would've been left and Jenn and Emily said they started out ahead and could've won if they had one more person. The second is Dunbar flipping his vote. If Brad goes in against Derrick he loses. Brad is marginally taller and probably doesn't weigh that much more than Derrick to have it be a major factor in Pole Me over.
So I blame any and all unhappiness I have about the Red team winning on Laurel and Dunbar.
[strike]so, i'm confused. who wins? red or grey or blue?[/strike]
So I'm confused and too lazy to look through the posts. Who wins? Red, grey, or blue?
Paula just isint that good that's why she never makes it to the end. She stays a long time becuase people like her as a person.
My other note is although the episode has not aired yet the Tyler vd Derrick gulag i have a feeling is going to be like the Derrick vs Timmy gaunlet 2 battle just his size and weight is going to be too much for Derrick
[QUOTE=EPluribusUnum;225988]Derrick preferred to go in against Brad, his reaction when TJ said that Tyler was in against him show that.[/QUOTE]
That and he had the dream Tyler beat him.
I think it's funny that on the reunion preview Tyler says that if he went first, Johnny still would've lost because he basically still went against a fresh CT and lasted for so long. That's actually not true. Had Tyler gone first he still probably would've performed just as well (I'm not taking away from how awesome what he did is)...but then CT would've been coming off a 40 minute Gulag against fresh Johnny, so the order COMPLETELY mattered. Tyler's performance would've been the same against CT either way, so it wouldn't have affected him, but it did for Johnny. I'm not saying he would've won if he went second, but his odds are a lot better...especially if Tyler wouldn't have given up knowing that Johnny still had to best him and gone for a while longer.
[QUOTE=JL81790;226016]I think it's funny that on the reunion preview Tyler says that if he went first, Johnny still would've lost because he basically still went against a fresh CT and lasted for so long. That's actually not true. Had Tyler gone first he still probably would've performed just as well (I'm not taking away from how awesome what he did is)...but then CT would've been coming off a 40 minute Gulag against fresh Johnny, so the order COMPLETELY mattered. Tyler's performance would've been the same against CT either way, so it wouldn't have affected him, but it did for Johnny. I'm not saying he would've won if he went second, but his odds are a lot better...especially if Tyler wouldn't have given up knowing that Johnny still had to best him and gone for a while longer.[/QUOTE]
Right but if you look at it from this perspective. A fresh CT beat a fresh Johnny in what was it 19 sec..? A basically still fresh CT and a fresh Tyler went at it for like 40 min, so if Tyler can last 40 min and johnny can only last 19 sec against a fresh CT that indicates to me that if tyler went against Johnny he would have beaten him pretty easily..
I think even if Johnny would have went second, he would not have been able to battle CT win. I think a gassed out CT would have still beaten Johnny. I think even if Johnny went against Tyler he would have lost. Johnny is not that big compared to Tyler. It was just not his day that day.
[QUOTE=DevouredSoul;226018]Right but if you look at it from this perspective. A fresh CT beat a fresh Johnny in what was it 19 sec..? A basically still fresh CT and a fresh Tyler went at it for like 40 min, so if Tyler can last 40 min and johnny can only last 19 sec against a fresh CT that indicates to me that if tyler went against Johnny he would have beaten him pretty easily..[/QUOTE]
Oh I agree that Tyler would've taken Johnny pretty easily in the Gulag. I just don't agree that if he went first and worked CT for an hour that CT could've done to Johnny what he did. Even with the 5-10 minute break Tina would've provided. That's why I don't think going first or second mattered to Tyler, but directly affected what kind of CT Johnny was going to get.
[QUOTE=molds13;225848]You're a girl and you told cystic you were a girl for VR, even though your email address is clearly that of a male's? And the email address corresponds to a Facebook account with a male's name?
I don't buy it. And since I don't buy that...I don't buy anything else you say either. Sorry.
Does a wonderful human being sleep with two members of the opposite team, and then talk about how one of them bashes her all the time? Just wondering because all of the wonderful human beings I know don't get double teamed.[/QUOTE]
hey molds, are we ever going to hear the full story behind this, I remember you mentioned it back on her Ruins thread
Yes, Tyler would've beaten Johnny one on one in that game ... that's obvious !! But I have to say Tyler really lucked out in the games he goes in, both favored him heavily. Both had everything to do with weight, size, and strength and Tyler outweighed, was bigger, and had more strength for those two particular games than Johnny and Derrick. But still props to Tyler for winning them.
Can't wait for the final gulag. I wish Tyler was one of those who cared more about revenge than money, then he would have thrown the final rather than help Red win. Oh well, at least I'm happy for him though. Go Tyler. Can't wait to see the finals.
I think since it seems like the longest and hardest final challenge in history if Derrick made it to the finals the Blue Team would have won not because of their game but because they have real athletes but its a shame we can only speculate when it never happens. =[
[QUOTE=kw713;225843]Yeah maybe considering she carries Abe on her back in the final and given she could hang with Kenny on FM2. But strength can only count for so much...She's an ugly person, a bully and a major WITCH![/QUOTE]
Can we cut out the "bully" talk? Laurel didn't bully Easy or anyone else. People are allowed to disagree without it being called bullying, just because it's a hot topic in the news right now. Plus, you just listed two reasons why she is a good competitor and two of the reasons that SHOULD count. All the trashing of the girl is turning people into bullies.
[QUOTE=llcooljonas;226057]Can we cut out the "bully" talk? Laurel didn't bully Easy or anyone else. People are allowed to disagree without it being called bullying, just because it's a hot topic in the news right now. Plus, you just listed two reasons why she is a good competitor and two of the reasons that SHOULD count. All the trashing of the girl is turning people into bullies.[/QUOTE]
I agree, not just cause she said so, but people always get into arguments and say things they shouldn't. Just because that happened on TV and apparently Eric cried because of it doesn't make it bullying. Plus, he threw some comments at her that very night before she aid anything. Call it an argument that was unnecessary, fine, but bullying is just ridiculous. Plus, aren't we over this topic like 5743829191 weeks ago?
[QUOTE=cryssy19;226075]I agree, not just cause she said so, but people always get into arguments and say things they shouldn't. Just because that happened on TV and apparently Eric cried because of it doesn't make it bullying. Plus, he threw some comments at her that very night before she aid anything. Call it an argument that was unnecessary, fine, but bullying is just ridiculous. Plus, aren't we over this topic like 5743829191 weeks ago?[/QUOTE]
A girl made him cry. They got into an argument. Why it ended up being WW3, I'll never know.
[QUOTE=trees12;225908]We've briefly discussed that topic via PM a while back. I'm just really upset that everyone else who wants to put down Sarah for whatever reason can. But when I continually stick up for her its wrong.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I do not hold that against you, it offers a different perspective which to me is an opinion, but with some insight. Personally, I didn't like Sarah's attitude or game this season and think she did nothing much to stand out. Her opinion of Cara Maria imo is unwarranted and unfair. I honestly think she's was scared to disagree with Laurel.
Some people have certain insights based on affiliations with cast members, production, friends of, etc...and trust me, my assessment of Tyler could be way left field because I did not believe molds 13, who many times told everyone of Tyler's ability. She has an inside track which I didn't agree with either, but in this case...it was right. Same for townie with CT, etc, etc.
As for Derrick vs Tyler, it looks like they're playing the pole push game (same for Emily vs Paula)...so yes the last gulag is physical and size will be an advantage. This was the one where Ty could not finish, which I'm glad he left. We would have never saw CT vs Johnny had he not gassed out, which i still believe was he way of saying screw his team.
I know Abram gets sick in the final challenge from the pile of wood chips, but what happens to Sarah to the point where she has to be taken off in a stretcher?
[QUOTE=molds13;225853]I have never known anyone to share an email address with anyone, let alone their brother. Email is free - you don't need to share.
And you missed my question about the double teaming. Or was that convenient?[/QUOTE]
*****, I totally want to hear who tag-teamed Sarah now. But It's about time somebody called trees out for their bias on Sarah, but actually on the subject, I'm pumped to see how close the Tyler/Derrick gulag is.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;226153]I know Abram gets sick in the final challenge from the pile of wood chips, but what happens to Sarah to the point where she has to be taken off in a stretcher?[/QUOTE]
Too bad for Abe.
Curious fact, Ty wasn't able to get up in the Gulag against Brandon for not eating properly and now Abe gets sick in the final because of eating too much.
[QUOTE=EPluribusUnum;226158]Too bad for Abe.
Curious fact, Ty wasn't able to get up in the Gulag against Brandon for not eating properly and now Abe gets sick in the final because of eating too much.[/QUOTE]
Seems to happen now on every single Challenge that SOMEONE can't finish in the finals.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;226192]Seems to happen now on every single Challenge that SOMEONE can't finish in the finals.[/QUOTE] Well how about they have a final where if your last to a checkpoint your dropped from winning and stripped of any money. Suppose if a team lost a member than that person's money will be split with the people who finish. But it would only work on an individual challenge. Just saying!
[QUOTE=fabulous788;227012]They are all about the foreshadowing this season. It's been crazy. Can't wait to see Sarah lose :D[/QUOTE]
Do unto to others how you want done unto you. You shouldn't wish bad on anyone. Sarah messed up on the final, but she'll be back in the future. Sarah never gives up and many are proud of the great person that she is. She's been though alot, but I guess as Devyn says whether they love you or hate you their still obsessed. God Bless!
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