[QUOTE=molds13;214892]I don't know if he chimes in, but there is the whole Vinny talking **** about Shauvon, Shauvon hitting Vinny with a chain and him pushing her away storyline.
From what I have heard, Shauvon turns all of the other girls on their team (and maybe some of the guys too) against Vinny. I'm not too surprised though...he's probably the worst guy left on his team. Not to mention who he loses to could be considered kind of embarrassing to some.[/QUOTE]
Huh, Shauvon really did her work this challenge for only being there a short time. I guess I don't blame Vinny for beign mad after all that happened, but I guess we'll see how he does against Eric.
Any idea what elimination they do? From what I remember, he didn't look too dirty in the trailer so I'm guessing they didn't do HandCuffs or Back Up Off Me? Unless he just stayed really clean. And I really don't understand how he's so bad. He's a really fit guy but he's just like Dunbar, looks like a great competitor and only has sub-par skill to show.
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[B]Any idea what elimination they do?[/B] From what I remember, he didn't look too dirty in the trailer so I'm guessing they didn't do HandCuffs or Back Up Off Me? Unless he just stayed really clean. And I really don't understand how he's so bad. He's a really fit guy but he's just like Dunbar, looks like a great competitor and only has sub-par skill to show.[/QUOTE]
No idea, actually.
If you guys had no knowledge of anything that happened on the challenge, not knowing who won, and a random person came up to you and said "Hey these are the final teams for the final challenge:
Red: Brad, Dunbar, Tyler, Tori
Blue: Jenn, Emily
Gray: Abe, Luke, Cara Maria, Sarah, Laurel"
Who would you say "oh yeah, that team won no doubt"?
[QUOTE=jones10389;214935]If you guys had no knowledge of anything that happened on the challenge, not knowing who won, and a random person came up to you and said "Hey these are the final teams for the final challenge:
Red: Brad, Dunbar, Tyler, Tori
Blue: Jenn, Emily
Gray: Abe, Luke, Cara Maria, Sarah, Laurel"
Who would you say "oh yeah, that team won no doubt"?[/QUOTE]
I don't think that question is a "no doubt" kind of question though. In my opinion it would have to be a toss up between red and gray. That's with the no knowledge ;)
[QUOTE=fabulous788;214936]I don't think that question is a "no doubt" kind of question though. In my opinion it would have to be a toss up between red and gray. That's with the no knowledge ;)[/QUOTE]
I agree, with no knowledge at all of the challenges I obviously wouldn't choose the team with two females, but I'd probably go with red because they have more males. But that doesn't matter because we've got very deep challenge knowledge and don't have to worry about the gray team winning lol.
[QUOTE=jones10389;214935]If you guys had no knowledge of anything that happened on the challenge, not knowing who won, and a random person came up to you and said "Hey these are the final teams for the final challenge:
Red: Brad, Dunbar, Tyler, Tori
Blue: Jenn, Emily
Gray: Abe, Luke, Cara Maria, Sarah, Laurel"
Who would you say "oh yeah, that team won no doubt"?[/QUOTE]
I would say gray,but what Molds has said. I am guessing Red wins.
I just thought, the red team's final team is alot like the final Good Guys team fro mthe Inferno 2. Not only because of the male/female amounts, but they've got three really athletic guys as well as a girl who can hold her own.
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I think what he means is a game like name that coconut, ball brawl, beach brawl, corner ball, or a game like that. I mean, Derrick has pretty much owned everybody he's went up against in games like that except Wes in pole wrestle. But if it has something to with strength and has no wrestling/tackling then I can easily see how Tyler could beat Derrick now that I think about it... he's bigger and stronger. Timmy drug Derrick across the beach on the Gauntlet 2 in hardly no time because he was bigger and stronger than Derrick. Isn't Derrick only like 5'7 or something like that ? He said he only weighed 160 lbs on the Gauntlet 2. So a lot of guys on these shows have a size, weight, and strength advantage on Derrick. Even though Derrick's a beast, it probably takes everything he has to do what he does on these shows. Heck, I'm actually kinda surprised that he beats Brandon on this challenge now that I've seen Brandon compete.
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Yeah.. situation here, I thought if Derrick would lose to Tyler in an elimination round it would be one like "Back Off of Me" cause that game isn't really based off strength, but weight size. Timmy took out Derrick cause of his weight advantage, as well as Beth taking out Ruthie for the same cause. Imagine if it was Beach Brawl or Name That Coconut, Derrick and Ruthie could've tooken the win. It all comes to what game is chosen for that elimination round, it could of been at Tyler's advantage.
Since Tyler beat Derrick I think it had to be one of the following eliminations:
1. Back Off of Me (which molds already stated it wasn't)
2. A Puzzle (which molds also stated probably wasn't the case)
3. I Can Type of Game (based pure of mentals/thinking)
[QUOTE=Morris1721;214982]I just thought, the red team's final team is alot like the final Good Guys team fro mthe Inferno 2. Not only because of the male/female amounts, but they've got three really athletic guys as well as a girl who can hold her own.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I made that comparison myself a while back, and while I do think the I2 good guys would have won regardless (ie. even without Tonya and Tina on the bad guys) I don't think the gray team has a Tonya or a Tina to slow them down, and Brad, Dunbar, and Tyler are no Landon, Mike, and Darrell. So in a way I'm really curious to see what goes awry in that final challenge for gray.
To be honest, I'll find a reason to be happy if any team wins at this point. I'd be happy for Jenn to win, or first Emily to win on her first challenge (I always like it more when rookies win) or for Brad, and Tyler to get their firsts as well. I would have been happy for Abram and Luke if gray won as well, but it's been said they don't, either way they walked away wit some decent money from winning most of the challenges.
[QUOTE=ClubSandwich;214992]Yeah, I made that comparison myself a while back, and while I do think the I2 good guys would have won regardless (ie. even without Tonya and Tina on the bad guys) I don't think the gray team has a Tonya or a Tina to slow them down, and Brad, Dunbar, and Tyler are no Landon, Mike, and Darrell. So in a way I'm really curious to see what goes awry in that final challenge for gray.
To be honest, I'll find a reason to be happy if any team wins at this point. I'd be happy for Jenn to win, or first Emily to win on her first challenge (I always like it more when rookies win) or for Brad, and Tyler to get their firsts as well. I would have been happy for Abram and Luke if gray won as well, but it's been said they don't, either way they walked away wit some decent money from winning most of the challenges.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Knowing the gray team doesn't win will make me know not to have hope for them during the final, but between blue and red I'm gonna be rooting for blue mainly because I love Jenn and I feel like Emily has potential to become a big factor in these games. On the other hand, I feel if red wins (which I believe they do) I can't say I'll miss Brad and Tori because like Brad said, they're ready to start a family so I don't think they'll be back soon. Also it may lessen Dunbar's appearances which I'd also be happy about.
I still will feel bad for Jenn though for not winning yet. I really hope she keeps getting asked back and keeps coming, especially if she has Pete with her. But unlike Paula, I feel like she really, really tries to win for herself and relies less on other people.
Yeah I don't remember Jenn ever talking about alliances except her small flirtation with Johnny's alliance on the Island, and her double agent role on FM 2.
[QUOTE=Entropy;215008]Yeah I don't remember Jenn ever talking about alliances except her small flirtation with Johnny's alliance on the Island, and her double agent role on FM 2.[/QUOTE]
True, I mean everybody has basic alliances even to the point where it's "we're friends, I'll watch their back" but Jenn's pretty much already in the in-crowd and is becoming a leader of it as far as females go. That's why she makes it so far, including on this challenge. I mean she was never thrown in by the blue team, and she's the strongest girl on their team so I can see why she was never put at risk.
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True, I mean everybody has basic alliances even to the point where it's "we're friends, I'll watch their back" but Jenn's pretty much already in the in-crowd and is becoming a leader of it as far as females go. That's why she makes it so far, including on this challenge. I mean she was never thrown in by the blue team, and she's the strongest girl on their team so I can see why she was never put at risk.
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Yeah, Jenn is a perfect example of a strong female player who plays the game as safe as possible. She knows what to do at certain times, she has proven to be a physical player with a respectable elimination record of 5-2. People see her as a veteran and obviously a good player. She is a Top 20 Female challenger for me.. even though she has a loud mouth, she can back up her talk. Mandi got a taste of it already.
Even though, as much as I love Jenn.. she probably will keep the losing curse like C.T, Paula, and Robin. I also don't consider her a good final challenge player, which she lacks like Aneesa, Tonya and Tina. They aren't great runners or in great condition like other players. So I see Red winning this one maybe because of Jenn, if it was someone else in the end like Jillian or Kina.. it would be a bit different, cause Blue will have good chances of winning.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;214982]I just thought, the red team's final team is alot like the final Good Guys team fro mthe Inferno 2. Not only because of the male/female amounts, but they've got three really athletic guys as well as a girl who can hold her own.[/QUOTE]
I am new to this website so let me start off saying hi to everyone!
However I have been watching these challenges for quite a while so I just wanted to say yes I agree Tori can hold her own... However... I disagree with the 3 really athletic guys part. tyler has never proved himself (well until the CT & than Derrick incident... he is proven now) Dunbar has really never proved himself (correct me if I am wrong but has the kid ever won an elimination round?) and than lastly Brad I have always thought of him as a decent competitor but he has never done anything to really be proud yes he beat CT (because CT can't follow rules) and he beat landon (which i am still a little bitter about that whole situation)
now i am going to say this I do think they win because from the sounds of this website grey team didn't finish and the blue team has jenn who isnt a horrible competitor but hasn't proven herself either, and emily who i can't really say much for besides I loved her on her season!
[QUOTE=RealityToast;215014]Yeah, Jenn is a perfect example of a strong female player who plays the game as safe as possible. She knows what to do at certain times, she has proven to be a physical player with a respectable elimination record of 5-2. People see her as a veteran and obviously a good player. She is a Top 20 Female challenger for me.. even though she has a loud mouth, she can back up her talk. Mandi got a taste of it already.
Even though, as much as I love Jenn.. she probably will keep the losing curse like C.T, Paula, and Robin. I also don't consider her a good final challenge player, which she lacks like Aneesa, Tonya and Tina. They aren't great runners or in great condition like other players. So I see Red winning this one maybe because of Jenn, if it was someone else in the end like Jillian or Kina.. it would be a bit different, cause Blue will have good chances of winning.[/QUOTE]
I agree with most of your post, but I'd like to discuss what you said about Jenn losing, because I don't really think it's fair to compare her to the rest. I mean, even if she doesn't win this one, she's never been on a team challenge after her very first, in which she still eliminated two girls on, so she still did well. Other than that, she's done the Duel 2, Fresh Meat 2, and the Island. I definitely think if there's a challenge with [B]two[/B] teams she has a great chance of winning. I still can't wait to see how she and Emily do on the final though.
The two times Jenn has been in finals circumstances are against here. The Island, well that final was **** and she on the boat that was never EVER gonna win and on FM2 she had just gone through the obstacle course, Exile plus her partner had the busted ribs and asthma.
And now on this challenge it's like she'll be doing an Exile all over again, except she won't have a male partner to help her and she'll be going against stronger, bigger teams, which can't boost the confidence too much going into that.
[QUOTE]Yeah.. situation here, I thought if Derrick would lose to Tyler in an elimination round it would be one like "Back Off of Me" cause that game isn't really based off strength, but weight size. [B]Timmy took out Derrick cause of his weight advantage, as well as Beth taking out Ruthie for the same cause. Imagine if it was Beach Brawl or Name That Coconut, Derrick and Ruthie could've tooken the win.[/B] It all comes to what game is chosen for that elimination round, it could of been at Tyler's advantage.[/QUOTE]
It wasn't just his weight advantage, but his superior strength. If Timmy was still his size, but didn't work out, Derrick would of put more of a fight.
[QUOTE=Superboy;215048]It wasn't just his weight advantage, but his superior strength. If Timmy was still his size, but didn't work out, Derrick would of put more of a fight.[/QUOTE]
Reverse Tug of War would favor the bigger person no matter what. Put Big Easy in there vs. anybody and he's gonna win, probably even against CT. Let's see how you turn this one into only you being right...
Speaking of which, we get to see Big Easy tomorrow night. Like I said before, doesn't look like Vinny's very dirty from what I remember, so they may do the puzzle elimination.
Tomorrow's probably gonna be boring with only one Gulag. Next week though should be really good. We see Katie vs. Ayiiia and Luke take out Big Easy, that should be interesting.
So what games do you think Big Easy and Luke play cause I would be suprised if Luke takes out Eric in a physical elimination, I'm guessing a puzzle.
Imagine if it was Back Off of Me, Luke would probably be dead right now.
[QUOTE=Morris1721;215120]Tomorrow's probably gonna be boring with only one Gulag. Next week though should be really good. We see Katie vs. Ayiiia and Luke take out Big Easy, that should be interesting.[/QUOTE]
Are we certain its only one Gulag?
[QUOTE=Entropy;215130]Are we certain its only one Gulag?[/QUOTE]
Well we know Shauvon quits and is the only girl to go home, so I would assume there is one gulag this week.
[QUOTE=Entropy;215130]Are we certain its only one Gulag?[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure because it's Vinny vs. Eric, then next is Ayiiia vs. Katie and Eric vs. Luke, both blue vs. gray and then it's Katie vs. Camila and Ty vs. Brandon which are both red vs. blue. So it works out for them to just skip the girls tomorrow night, judging by the way the missions are won.
Mission 3- Red wins
Vinny vs. Eric
Shauvon
Mission 4- Red wins
Ayiiia vs. Katie
Eric vs. Luke
Mission 5- Gray wins
Katie vs. Camila
Ty vs. Brandon
They won't play a mission, Shauvon quitting, Eric vs. Vinny, another mission, only a girls Gulag
I for one am excited to see Shauvon quit, and hopefully [fingers crossed] that means that she may be done Challenges for good. Or at least a good long while.
[QUOTE=Entropy;215139]Oh ok I'd thought they do what they did on Gauntlet 3 when Coral left, them still doing the Gauntlet with Casey and Ev.[/QUOTE]
Definitely a possibility, I just assume with the way the missions work out with the eliminations that there won't be a female Gulag. Maybe Shauvon quits after being voted into the Gulag and does it right before they're supposed to compete so they counted it as an elimination.
I found this to be quite interesting and I wonder who it is. My guess would be Vinny.
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or Eric..but I don't see Katie voting for Eric. There is always the case that it could be Shavoun thus causing her to quit, and since we know TJ likes to say who was voted for she'll know it was unanimous.
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