The Duel 2: Episode 5 - Discussion

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[quote=blanky667;68317]V1 what do you think about Ruthie's comments? I think they are a bit exagerated but it will be cool to see Ruthie and Rachel go head to head.[/quote] Ruthie is one funny chick. She couldn't beat Katie in a harmless game of wrestling and she lost to an injured Kim. Now she thinks she can beat Rachel head to head? What's really good Ruthie? Fall back.
[QUOTE=blanky667;68317]V1 what do you think about Ruthie's comments? I think they are a bit exagerated but it will be cool to see Ruthie and Rachel go head to head.[/QUOTE] No clue... just walked off an airplane. Will watch the episode in the morning. I'm working from memory from when this episode was taped...
[QUOTE=V1man;68322]No clue... just walked off an airplane. Will watch the episode in the morning. I'm working from memory from when this episode was taped...[/QUOTE] If you know Brad or Easy's birthday, it was right around then :)
[QUOTE=drunklove;68210]Kim and Dunbar live together hahahahaha[/QUOTE] It's just not true...
[quote=V1man;68324]It's just not true...[/quote]Not true? It seems pretty odd that Ryan and Jenn said that they were.
[quote=V1man;68324]It's just not true...[/quote] Well thanks to you I know the truth now, but I was responding to what Jenn and Ryan said. It still is funny to know that they did.
Diem's comments on what she thought Ruthie's gameplan was going to be got me thinking: you can absolutely win the Back Off duel with Jiu Jitsu. Sounds ridiculous but hear me out. If you're of comparable size to your opponent, you can pull butterfly guard with double underhooks. Your back will be against the floor protecting your hook and your arms will be under your opponent's, allowing you to easily grab their hook before pressing them off of you so you can run away. Here is a video demonstrating my theory: [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba71XSdgrPU"]YouTube - PSBJJ Club. Hook Sweep.[/URL] If you doubt it, I have seen that move fully completed in less than two seconds in competitions; it would have likely worked very well (assuming it wasn't attempted).
Ruthie continues to post these comments... So funny, I just saw the episode, and for Aneesa to say that, whatever. She has no idea what will happen when we meet again, as well as the rest of the girls. Love y'all! BLAH! [URL="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1101378535&v=feed&story_fbid=78165987734&ref=mf"]2 minutes ago[/URL] · [COLOR=#3b5998]Comment[/COLOR][COLOR=#888888] · [/COLOR][COLOR=#3b5998]Like[/COLOR][COLOR=#3b5998]Unlike[/COLOR][COLOR=#888888] · [/COLOR][COLOR=#3b5998]Show Feedback (1)[/COLOR][COLOR=#3b5998]Hide Feedback (1)[/COLOR] I can't wait until they "meet again". I'm happy that Ruthie is open to doing more challenges.
Ruthie is on twitter. Watch out folks she's gonna go at it again lol. [url]https://twitter.com/RuthieAlcaide[/url]
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[quote=blanky667;68328]Ruthie continues to post these comments... So funny, I just saw the episode, and for Aneesa to say that, whatever. She has no idea what will happen when we meet again, as well as the rest of the girls. Love y'all! BLAH! [URL="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1101378535&v=feed&story_fbid=78165987734&ref=mf"]2 minutes ago[/URL] · [COLOR=#3b5998]Comment[/COLOR][COLOR=#888888] · [/COLOR][COLOR=#3b5998]Like[/COLOR][COLOR=#3b5998]Unlike[/COLOR][COLOR=#888888] · [/COLOR][COLOR=#3b5998]Show Feedback (1)[/COLOR][COLOR=#3b5998]Hide Feedback (1)[/COLOR] I can't wait until they "meet again". I'm happy that Ruthie is open to doing more challenges.[/quote] Ruthie is straight up ridiculous! She's like fighting over the internet with herself haha. I feel bad for her b/c she looks really pathetic and desperate to start unnecessary drama. I guess losing a lot of money does that to people.
[QUOTE=blanky667;68325]Not true? It seems pretty odd that Ryan and Jenn said that they were.[/QUOTE] I don't think any behavior exhibited by Ryan or Jenn is particularly odd, including the stretching of the truth.
Sorry V1. Please don't punish us. We'll play nice I promise. Right Blanky?
[quote=superchico;68327]Diem's comments on what she thought Ruthie's gameplan was going to be got me thinking: you can absolutely win the Back Off duel with Jiu Jitsu. Sounds ridiculous but hear me out. If you're of comparable size to your opponent, you can pull butterfly guard with double underhooks. Your back will be against the floor protecting your hook and your arms will be under your opponent's, allowing you to easily grab their hook before pressing them off of you so you can run away. Here is a video demonstrating my theory: [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba71XSdgrPU"]YouTube - PSBJJ Club. Hook Sweep.[/URL] If you doubt it, I have seen that move fully completed in less than two seconds in competitions; it would likely work very well.[/quote]Interesting... I never have that about Jiu-Jitsu being a helping factor in that game. Great theory!
[quote=V1man;68332]I don't think any behavior exhibited by Ryan or Jenn is particularly odd, including the stretching of the truth.[/quote]I'm getting a little bit confused... You quoted drunklover and their post said that Dunbar and Kim are living together and you said "It is just not true...". So is it true or is it not true?
[QUOTE=blanky667;68335]I'm getting a little bit confused... You quoted drunklover and their post said that Dunbar and Kim are living together and you said "It is just not true...". So is it true or is it not true?[/QUOTE] I have no idea why you would be confused. They are not dating; they are not living together. They dated briefly but the situation was toxic. They are working on being friends... I don't think particularly highly of Ryan or Jenn, for reasons I'll not be sharing, but the result of what I know is that nothing either one does or says surprises me, including their straying from the truth. By all means, though, feel free to believe Jenn and Ryan. I spent the evening of St. Patrick's day in New Orleans with Kim and can assure you there is no "Dunbar" camped in her apartment.
I enjoyed this episode a lot. Next week is going to be good!! Paula vs. Kim??
Edit: Silly comment and not necessary lol.
[quote=V1man;68337]I have no idea why you would be confused. They are not dating; they are not living together. They dated briefly but the situation was toxic. They are working on being friends... I don't think particularly highly of Ryan or Jenn, for reasons I'll not be sharing, but the result of what I know is that nothing either one does or says surprises me, including their straying from the truth. By all means, though, feel free to believe Jenn and Ryan. I spent the evening of St. Patrick's day in New Orleans with Kim and can assure you there is no "Dunbar" camped in her apartment.[/quote] So you're basically saying that we should take whatever Jenn or Ryan say with a grain of salt. I know Jenn flip flops and Ryan likes the drama. Pity, why would they be asked to do The Dish if they just make stuff up?
[quote=V1man;68337]I have no idea why you would be confused. They are not dating; they are not living together. They dated briefly but the situation was toxic. They are working on being friends... I don't think particularly highly of Ryan or Jenn, for reasons I'll not be sharing, but the result of what I know is that nothing either one does or says surprises me, including their straying from the truth. By all means, though, feel free to believe Jenn and Ryan. I spent the evening of St. Patrick's day in New Orleans with Kim and can assure you there is no "Dunbar" camped in her apartment.[/quote]I would be confused because one person is saying one thing and another person is saying another...
[QUOTE=drunklove;68340]So you're basically saying that we should take whatever Jenn or Ryan say with a grain of salt. I know Jenn flip flops and Ryan likes the drama. Pity, why would they be asked to do The Dish if they just make stuff up?[/QUOTE] Are you of the impression that BMP and MTV have the slightest interest in truth?
[QUOTE=drunklove;68340]So you're basically saying that we should take whatever Jenn or Ryan say with a grain of salt. I know Jenn flip flops and Ryan likes the drama. Pity, why would they be asked to do The Dish if they just make stuff up?[/QUOTE] Are you of the impression that BMP and MTV have the slightest interest in truth? It's not like they fact check stuff...ever.
[quote=V1man;68343]Are you of the impression that BMP and MTV have the slightest interest in truth? It's not like they fact check stuff...ever.[/quote] Oh V1 I just, I just, I just hate to be lied to. Oh the betrayal, the deceit. How could you fail me MTV? After all these years of devotion to your mindless reality television. I give you my time and look what you go and do with it...what a complete waste! :crying:
Originally Posted by [B]drunklove[/B] [URL="http://vevmo.com/f187/duel-2-episode-5-discussion-3036-post68306/#post68306"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/images/totallypro/buttons/viewpost.gif[/IMG][/URL] [INDENT]haha Ruthie needs to really **** coming at RAchel. Excuse me hun, but didn't you just lose to a rookie...back off son! [B][COLOR=red]And when was the last time she won anything alone?[/COLOR][/B] Rachel is holding up her part just fine. Aneesa was dead on...[COLOR=blue][B]Ruthie does hold outrageous grudges.[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][B]Did you not see the rope challenge? She did that all on her own. Without any help from a partner. Ruthie is right. The two victories Rachel has at this point would not have been won if not for her male partner. Same would have been the case if another couple had won. Those challenges depended very much on the male partner. And if there's any doubt in your mind of Ruthie's ability to compete, go back and watch Battle of the Sexes. Don't get me wrong though, Rachel is a competitor and I don't want it to sound like I'm saying otherwise. [/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=blue]Ruthie has every right to hold a grudge. That wasn't cool of Aneesa one bit.[/COLOR][/B][/INDENT] Okay. I had to post when I saw hate being spewed about Ruthie. I love Ruthie. I am very sad she was eliminated tonight. She's a little powerhouse and an inspiration.
Yeah, but this is a GAME! There aren't friends on this thing, especially not with outcasts. For Ruthie to go all internet blog ballistic over this is a little over the top imo. Congrats on Ruthie winning one challenge by herself, but in this game that alone isn't gonna take you far in this game. Rachel came in with a smart gameplan and she's gonna get rewarded for it no matter how she gets to the end. At the end of the day nobody cares about how they got to the top. You know the saying...money talks.
As much as I like all 3 of them, I have to take Ruthie's side.I think she can take on Rachel and espescially Aneesa. I was just expressing my interest on Ruthie's comments so I thought it would be cool if I posted them as she posted.
Ruthie's comments are interesting. It would be neat to see her on another challenge with Anessa and Rachel. I don't really think Anessa was trying to mess Ruthie up, though. I think she just kind of said she would pick Issac to Ruthie and perhaps the lineup order was changed by Mark/Rachel afterwards, or it wasn't made yet before she told Ruthie she'd pick Issac. I need to watch that again to see the timeline for that (hopefully it's correct on the show, actually). But the grudge thing understandably bothered her, and since Anessa did say she'd vote for Issac, it must feel like betrayal that she went in another direction. It was weird to see people ragging on Ruthie in this episode, when she's always been the peaceful, nice person who is a fierce competitor on these shows. As for Ruthie being mad at Landon? I don't know what he might have done in this episode to bother her. Perhaps it's the fact that he bothered Issac (though it was just clipping his toenails), and Issac was her partner/pal on this challenge? I know Landon seemed to really respect and like Ruthie during G2, and I wonder if she ecpected him to be there for her on this challenge? But of course he is trying to be in with the Evan/Mark/Brad alliance, and Brittini is his partner, so he is into picking them (or their partners) first. I actually wonder why Landon did not pick Ruthie to be his partner, actually? Maybe because her small stature could be a detriment in a physical match? I have to wonder, though, if Rachel may have influenced Anessa in making sure Ruthie was at the end.
[quote=RW561015;68355]...perhaps the lineup order was changed by Mark/Rachel afterwards, or it wasn't made yet before she told Ruthie she'd pick Issac.[/quote] Mark specifically stated that he and Rachel were not going to make a list, leaving it up to the only pair they saved - Landon and Brit - to continue on from there.
Ok, yes I would probably be ****** at Aneesa for not picking Isaac after we just talked about it, but if I'm not mistaken you still have to go into The Duel and win yourself, so Ruthie shouldn't lash out at other people when she controlled her own fate in The Duel to stay in the game. She should know that you can't trust anyone but yourself in these challenges. I just think that she's mad at herself and it's coming out the wrong way.
[quote=superchico;68357]Mark specifically stated that he and Rachel were not going to make a list, leaving it up to the only pair they saved - Landon and Brit - to continue on from there.[/quote] Thanks. I missed that. I do still wonder if Rachel and Anessa had any influence on each other (because of the dailies talking about their past and what's going on now).

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