The Duel II: New Zealand

[quote=tjhallow;53008]The trailer was really serious so it was kinda nice to have Evan lighten up the mood a little.[/quote] Definitely. A little humor mixed in with some crazy challenge is never a bad thing!

So they finally show a trailer... Anyways, the Challenge definitely looks extremely promising. Intense is one word to describe it.

If you look at the end of the long trailer, I believe that's the final mission with three guys, and 1 girl going up the hill.

[quote=Dartagnan;53033]So they finally show a trailer... Anyways, the Challenge definitely looks extremely promising. Intense is one word to describe it.[/quote] Where have you been? :)

[quote=producer88;53036]If you look at the end of the long trailer, I believe that's the final mission with three guys, and 1 girl going up the hill.[/quote] The part with Evan and Mark, it looks like they are in the final mission.

I can't wait! That trailer was mad tight. I wonder how the Brad/Tori situation will turn out. I actually felt sorry for Tori. Yay! For more Diem. And I hate to say it but it looks like CT "may" have been in the "right". The worst thing you can do to somebody who has been drinking (much less CT himself) is to put your hands on them. Adam should've just backed off and left it alone. Hopefully Adam fought back.

[quote=Zachary;53048]I can't wait! That trailer was mad tight. I wonder how the Brad/Tori situation will turn out. I actually felt sorry for Tori. Yay! For more Diem. And I hate to say it but it looks like CT "may" have been in the "right". The worst thing you can do to somebody who has been drinking (much less CT himself) is to put your hands on them. Adam should've just backed off and left it alone. Hopefully Adam fought back.[/quote] CT needs to have more self control.

[quote=tjhallow;53054]CT needs to have more self control.[/quote] That and he needs some more loving. Diem was screaming for him to stop like crazy.

I'm really excited. It seems that thing Challenge is more physical than about the drama, which is good. It will be good to see Kenny & Evan separated for once.

They need to put the trailer back up if they want good ratings.

[quote=tjhallow;53095]They need to put the trailer back up if they want good ratings.[/quote] True... So do you think they'll put up another trailer at the end of the reunion, or is this one the only one?

[quote=jake93;53097]True... So do you think they'll put up another trailer at the end of the reunion, or is this one the only one?[/quote] The one that dplayer posted was the three minute one. It was probably the one intended for the end of the reunion. That was the one that was pulled.

[url=http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/352049/absolute-pandemonium.jhtml#id=1606702]Absolute Pandemonium | Video | MTV[/url] its right here.

Never mind...2 min after I hit the reply button, it came up :) Haha

It honestly looked like CT was trying to walk away from the situation after he called Adam a clown but Adam kept running his mouth calling him a coward, then he grabbed him, hit him in the stomach, and looked like he tried to pour a cup of something on CT's head. Adam got what was coming to him if you ask me, you're stupid for attempting to provoke somebody like CT regardless of who you are let alone when you're a little twirp like Adam is and knowing that CT would absolutely rip you apart. I guess the only good thing is that CT didn't lash out at other castmembers and assault them for trying to break it up and projecting his anger on them.

[quote=Bucky;53118]It honestly looked like CT was trying to walk away from the situation after he called Adam a clown but Adam kept running his mouth calling him a coward, then he grabbed him, hit him in the stomach, and looked like he tried to pour a cup of something on CT's head. Adam got what was coming to him if you ask me, you're stupid for attempting to provoke somebody like CT regardless of who you are let alone when you're a little twirp like Adam is and knowing that CT would absolutely rip you apart. I guess the only good thing is that CT didn't lash out at other castmembers and assault them for trying to break it up and projecting his anger on them.[/quote] We knew you couldn't stay away.

Well call me rational but if I have an enraged CT yelling "I'M GONNA SMASH HIS HEAD AND EAT IT" in regards to me, I think I'm going to stay away. It looks like Adam stood up for himself though and tried to fight back the best he could. He ran his mouth off but he at least stood in there and did something.

[quote=Bucky;53120]Well call me rational but if I have an enraged CT yelling "I'M GONNA SMASH HIS HEAD AND EAT IT" in regards to me, I think I'm going to stay away. It looks like Adam stood up for himself though and tried to fight back the best he could. He ran his mouth off but he at least stood in there and did something.[/quote] Do you know CT?

No but you don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure that out. The guy never backs down from confrontations and he's never shy about getting in people's faces. Why antagonize him by getting into a shouting match with him and then putting your hands on him after he told you not to? I'm sorry but Adam got what was coming to him, he escalated the whole thing.

[quote=Bucky;53123]No but you don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure that out. The guy never backs down from confrontations and he's never shy about getting in people's faces. Why antagonize him by getting into a shouting match with him and then putting your hands on him after he told you not to? I'm sorry but Adam got what was coming to him, he escalated the whole thing.[/quote] I don't buy the whole "we know he's an a** so it's my fault if I get in his way" argument. No, YOU (hypothetical) need to stop acting like an a**, I'm not going to walk on eggshells with someone just because they didn't have the good fortune of having proper home training. We live in a society where it's not okay to smash people's faces in just because you can't control yourself, he needs to get some control quick and in a hurry. And notice he ALWAYS goes after smaller people or people who seem like they can be intimidated, he would never pull that crap on some of the dudes that I know, they would break him off and make him their beotych just on principal. CT needs to grow up, actually he probably just needs to get off the juice since it clearly looks like that's his issue. And MTV/BMP/whoever needs to stop endangering people by allowing uncontrollable animals to continue coming on the show.

:yes3: Thanks for posting, Binary Solo.

CT didn't pick on the smaller guy, the smaller guy instigated it with him. Like I said, CT looked like he was ready to just walk away after he called Adam a clown, but Adam couldn't leave it alone and he couldn't leave it alone when CT told him not to touch him. Does he get a free p*** from getting his *** beat down just because he's a test tube baby? I think not, I wouldn't put up with that from anybody regardless if they were bigger or smaller than me. Adam crossed the line and I hope he learned a lesson from it, he's always had too snippy of a yap on him for somebody who is 140 pounds.

[QUOTE=Bucky;53149]CT didn't pick on the smaller guy, the smaller guy instigated it with him. Like I said, CT looked like he was ready to just walk away after he called Adam a clown, but Adam couldn't leave it alone and he couldn't leave it alone when CT told him not to touch him. Does he get a free p*** from getting his *** beat down just because he's a test tube baby? I think not, I wouldn't put up with that from anybody regardless if they were bigger or smaller than me. Adam crossed the line and I hope he learned a lesson from it, he's always had too snippy of a yap on him for somebody who is 140 pounds.[/QUOTE] Bucky, seriously, how can you possible draw such far reaching conclusions from a few seconds of video clearly designed to inflame without the benefit of context? I guess I'm both surprised and pleased that the wider membership is not ceding you much credibility.

[quote=V1man;53165]Bucky, seriously, how can you possible draw such far reaching conclusions from a few seconds of video clearly designed to inflame without the benefit of context? I guess I'm both surprised and pleased that the wider membership is not ceding you much credibility.[/quote] Exactly, I am not making any judgments on the fight until we have CONTEXT. The only thing I know is that it looks like Adams eye got messed up pretty bad, and that violence should be avoided at all costs.

[quote=V1man;53165]Bucky, seriously, how can you possible draw such far reaching conclusions from a few seconds of video clearly designed to inflame without the benefit of context? I guess I'm both surprised and pleased that the wider membership is not ceding you much credibility.[/quote] What are you talking about? When somebody is pissed off and says DON'T TOUCH ME you don't grab them around the waist, you don't hit them in the stomach, and you don't try to do whatever Adam tried to do with the cup. CT is the antagonist 99% of the time but in this case it didn't look to be the case, sorry to hurt your feelings.

The point of the matter is this... We've watched CT pick on Adam for years. It all started back in Paris. Adam was simply trying to befriend CT at the time and he was a total jerk to him. I was a CT fan at one point. (How can you not love that accent?) That lasted about 15 mins. His anger is out of control. I have absolutely no idea how the incident went down. All I know is, there is absolutely no excuse for what he did.

Basically what I'm getting at is if somebody kicked a sleeping dog after the dog started growling, would you have pity for the person after the dog snapped and attacked ithen? Adam's stupidity is exactly the same.

[quote=Bucky;53182]Basically what I'm getting at is if somebody kicked a sleeping dog after the dog started growling, would you have pity for the person after the dog snapped and attacked ithen? Adam's stupidity is exactly the same.[/quote] Good analogy, but here is the problem with that....after the first time my dog attacked someone....we shot him.

Yes perhaps for some there is no distinction between a lying dog and a volatile human. For me there is no civilized conversation to be had with such a person, just as I wouldn't try to have a rational philosophical conversation with my dog and expect an intelligent response. I can imagine few if any scenarios where someone touching another person in a non life threatening way merits a response that could've permanently maimed someone if not worse. People who act like out of control animals belong in cages point blank period. @ LilysMom, I'm having flashbacks to my first time watching Old Yeller!