Fresh Meat 2: Spoilers

Wes fully deserves to be eliminated, he had either 3rd or 4th pick on a FM girl and still choose Mandi who clearly had the worse stats. He has made some very stupid decisions in the past and this ranks high on that list. Based on their performance so far they are one of the low tier teams this challenge. As the show progresses it will become more and more obvious and I can see many of his allies switching sides to Kenny.

[QUOTE=ajax10;168936]Wes fully deserves to be eliminated, he had either 3rd or 4th pick on a FM girl and still choose Mandi who clearly had the worse stats. He has made some very stupid decisions in the past and this ranks high on that list. Based on their performance so far they are one of the low tier teams this challenge. As the show progresses it will become more and more obvious and I can see many of his allies switching sides to Kenny.[/QUOTE] The quality dropoff in my opinion is huge after Laurell and perhaps Cara Maria (who knows though), so Wes was kinda at a disadvantage either way. Mandi Theresa Carley Sydney pick your poison.

[QUOTE=FM-DIAF;168937]The quality dropoff in my opinion is huge after Laurell and perhaps Cara Maria (who knows though), so Wes was kinda at a disadvantage either way. Mandi Theresa Carley Sydney pick your poison.[/QUOTE] I know it's only been two missions, but Carley is proving to be a beast. She might not have the raw athleticism of Laurel, but from what we've seen so far she's got heart and that adventurous attitude. Although, based on stats, Wes probably should have stuck with Sydney instead of Mandi.

[QUOTE=molds13;168917]Not this season. Wah wah wah.[/QUOTE] At least Kenny doesnt win.

[QUOTE=TSPKM;168989]At least Kenny doesnt win.[/QUOTE] He gets 2nd, which is a helluva lot better than what Wes gets.

[QUOTE=FM-DIAF;168937]The quality dropoff in my opinion is huge after Laurell and perhaps Cara Maria (who knows though), so Wes was kinda at a disadvantage either way. Mandi Theresa Carley Sydney pick your poison.[/QUOTE] Carley

[QUOTE=faceless;169001]Carley[/QUOTE] LOL you say that now, knowing she can perform and wins the final. But what about then? For all they knew, she was another Shauvon.

[QUOTE=Moonpaw;169002]LOL you say that now, knowing she can perform and wins the final. But what about then? For all they knew, she was another Shauvon.[/QUOTE] Yep, I was more speaking of if you were standing up at the draft with only the stat sheet and first impressions to go on. Not spoilers and two episodes of knowledge.

I'm happy Jillian and Pete got some money. They are my favorite :-).

[QUOTE=FM-DIAF;169014]Yep, I was more speaking of if you were standing up at the draft with only the stat sheet and first impressions to go on. Not spoilers and two episodes of knowledge.[/QUOTE] Just out of curiosity, what about her would make you pick her? Or is your sarcasm just going right over my head?

[QUOTE=molds13;168845] I do not know who takes out Wes. He is the only one I do not know about. [/QUOTE] Who takes out Ev and Luke? If it's mentioned in the thread already, just let me know, and I'll go find it.

[QUOTE=molds13;169068]I don't think it has been mentioned. Ev and Luke lose to Kenny and Laurel.[/QUOTE] I bet we'll never hear the end of how it's unfair Ev lost and how much Kenny sucks even though he won that exile.

[QUOTE=molds13;169068]I don't think it has been mentioned. Ev and Luke lose to Kenny and Laurel.[/QUOTE] Really? If so, Kenny must've taken great pleasure in doing that.

Laurel (aka Colossos, per Kenny's aftershow nickname) is a lot like Kenny: arrogant and annoying. I would much rather keep Ev around.

[QUOTE=faceless;169069]I bet we'll never hear the end of how it's unfair Ev lost and how much Kenny sucks even though he won that exile.[/QUOTE] Considering the fact that he had second pick (and got She Ra) and she didn't even have one, yeah. But whatever...hopefully she'll just take the loss and move on. She probably won't care that much anyways, if she can have her partner to blame lol. I love her, but he beats her fair and square, I will be annoyed if she complains.

I actually like Laurel. She's my favorite FM probably of all time. I personally can't wait for that elimination round. I have a feeling it's going to be epic, and really close race.

[QUOTE=thamsenman;169071]Laurel (aka Colossos, per Kenny's aftershow nickname) is a lot like Kenny: arrogant and annoying. I would much rather keep Ev around.[/QUOTE] Kenny is arrogant and annoying... as opposed to Ev? Are you serious? Let's face it... all the power players in the challenge are pretty much arrogant and annoying... excluding Landon.

[QUOTE=nellygrl;169084]Kenny is arrogant and annoying... as opposed to Ev? Are you serious?[/QUOTE] Actually, yeah. And for someone who never won a challenge, Laurel is [I]extremely[/I] arrogant. She has been since the beginning. Ev doesn't talk nearly as arrogantly as Laurel does. And keep in mind that I was turned off by Laurel just from watching Meet the Meat, before she was partnered with Kenny. My feelings about Kenny have nothing to do with my opinion of Laurel.

[QUOTE=morris614;168990]He gets 2nd, which is a helluva lot better than what Wes gets.[/QUOTE] 2nd place= 1st loser. I dont get all this love for Laurel either, yeah shes athletic but as far as personality its pretty much not really there.

[QUOTE=TSPKM;169103]2nd place= 1st loser. I dont get all this love for Laurel either, yeah shes athletic but as far as personality its pretty much not really there.[/QUOTE] Really 2nd is the 1st loser?? Thats what people who always finish last say to justify it.

Gosh I wish I had been able to withstand the temptation of the spoilers! I hate knowing that Wes loses, and it makes me apprehensive about watching future shows :sadwalk: haha But anyways, I agree about Laurel being incredibly annoying. From the way she acts you would think she's proven herself to be a champion already, which is not the case. She's proven that she has what it takes to be a champion, but a little humble pie surely wouldn't hurt her. She actually reminds me more of a female Wes than Kenny. :laugh2:

[QUOTE=morris614;169107]Really 2nd is the 1st loser?? Thats what people who always finish last say to justify it.[/QUOTE] Wow defensive and rude much? 2nd place is the 1st loser its a factual statement not an opinionated statement. I dont like Kenny or Wes I just happen to like Kenny less due to the fact that I like Wes' parter better than Kenny's. Kenny does NOT win, therefore, he isnt the best, the END.

[QUOTE=TSPKM;169151]Wow defensive and rude much? 2nd place is the 1st loser its a factual statement not an opinionated statement. I dont like Kenny or Wes I just happen to like Kenny less due to the fact that I like Wes' parter better than Kenny's. Kenny does NOT win, therefore, he isnt the best, the END.[/QUOTE] Yes, true that Kenny is not the best. As far as FM finishes, Landon is the best and we knew that from the beginning. But with the spoilers and facts, we can deduct that Kenny IS better then Wes. I'm tired of people saying that Wes only loses because of his partner. Perhaps it's just cause he isn't that amazing. I don't think Kenny is amazing either and yes his partner is better then Wes' but s*** happens. The point of FM is for the people to work with their partners. And if Wes is as amazing as he thinks he is then he should be able to do anything with any partner. He was lucky on the first FM with how little weight him and Casey brought so the fact that he loses because of the weight thing proves he isn't superman.

I would have liked to see Wes make the final, just to see their storyline finished on the final. I actually do not mind Wes or Kenny, I actually kind of like them both. I am quite excited to see the Kenny vs Ev exile.

Ok, I have a question. Some people on MTV's website are buzzing about saying that Jenn gets kicked off for her fight with Mandi and Johanna replaces her with noor. That is false right?

[QUOTE=DScott;169159]I would have liked to see Wes make the final, just to see their storyline finished on the final. I actually do not mind Wes or Kenny, I actually kind of like them both. I am quite excited to see the Kenny vs Ev exile.[/QUOTE] Agree, Agree, Agree. In the Ruins it was kind of anti-climactic after Wes left. I can't really dislike either of them because they are just characters on a screen to me. If I knew either in reality and they acted the way their edit portrays them in the shows, I probably wouldn't want anything to do with them; as long as they are on tv, I appreciate anything they do that entertains me (good stories need heroes and villains, right?).

[QUOTE=Aereas;169283]Agree, Agree, Agree. In the Ruins it was kind of anti-climactic after Wes left. I can't really dislike either of them because they are just characters on a screen to me. If I knew either in reality and they acted the way their edit portrays them in the shows, I probably wouldn't want anything to do with them; as long as they are on tv, I appreciate anything they do that entertains me (good stories need heroes and villains, right?).[/QUOTE] I agree and disagree. The whole Wes vs. the world was starting to get old. The good thing about FM2 is that there seems to be enough other drama to show, that the Wes vs Kenny thing wont get too old (probably wishful thinking on my part)

Who does CJ, Wes and Ryan lose to?