[QUOTE=DaTruthHurts;243954]Bring back Adam.
Worst Real World person ever was that ****** from Hollywood.[/QUOTE]
No Adam is the worst, in my opinion of course. lol Guy from HW was at least funny and had some redeeming qualities and was very real.
[QUOTE=jesses_girl;243968]No Adam is the worst, in my opinion of course. lol Guy from HW was at least funny and had some redeeming qualities and was very real.[/QUOTE]
Must have missed the funny parts with him. I seem to remember him always having his nose in the air and deemed the rest of the cast not worthy of his presence.
What people saw in him to vote him in the show, I'll never know.
I really don't understand Dustin at times he is reasonable like when he held back Nany, at times he's immature with the go cart racing and then at times he is just a complete d*****s. I mean all the comments coming from his mouth about gay males are so ridiculous, hypocritical and just plain disgusting considering his past. And he just seems so two-faced, like when he made the comment about feeling uncomfortable at the event since he was in his underwear and everyone else was also barely dressed, I just couldn't believe it considering he lived naked with other males.
[QUOTE=beecee;243973]I really don't understand Dustin at times he is reasonable like when he held back Nany, at times he's immature with the go cart racing and then at times he is just a complete d*****s. I mean all the comments coming from his mouth about gay males are so ridiculous, hypocritical and just plain disgusting considering his past. And he just seems so two-faced, like when he made the comment about feeling uncomfortable at the event since he was in his underwear and everyone else was also barely dressed, I just couldn't believe it considering he lived naked with other males.[/QUOTE]
I am hoping that he had a nuanced position lost in the edit. If you look at the daily of the others talking about gays in the kitchen and think how their positions could have been cut down to come across bad, then maybe that is what happened here. My fraternity president was gay and he HATED other gay guys who acted like 12 year old pubescent girls. He directed the F and Q words toward people like that moreso than anybody I ever heard in my life. His position, which I agree with, was that gay or straight, men were supposed to act like men and women like women.
The bi issue is going to be interesting. I think Mike Manning just stopped calling himself that because he got so sick of people in his face on both sides trying to argue that there is no such thing.
I can't wait til Dustin is forced to come clean about his past. Especially after Heather's "I couldn't be with a guy who had been with another guy" comment.
Oh and good riddance, Adam (for now?).
Leroy and Mike continue to be awesome, and their relationship is hilarious and one of my favorites in recent memory.
[QUOTE=JL81790;243848]Is anyone getting annoyed with this sound effect they keep using? It's like some kind of vibrating african drum/wind chime thing idk...[/QUOTE]
I liked it - it was kinda cheesy, kinda spooky, just highlighting clues that something was up.
[QUOTE=jojorules;243887]I feel so bad for Nany balling on the phone. Having her epic love taken away unfairly for no reason other than to torture her. :)[/QUOTE]
Hahaha! Sarcasm ftw!
[QUOTE=torch115;243903]UH-oh!!
And I like Naomi. I do wonder just how horrible-if true- the upcoming roomie is...[/QUOTE]
Seems like jealousy over Ms. Cook and Leroy. Looks like she's gonna fill the drama-void right off the bat.
[QUOTE=Bacchus;243908]Dustin is not digging his own grave here with a shovel. He brought in the backhoe.[/QUOTE]
I'm shocked watching him say these things with a [I]straight[/I] face.
[QUOTE=fabulous788;243913]Sexiled Island!!! Best thing ever and the sex noises are hysterical.[/QUOTE]
This is the second show title in a row, along with, "Playa's Gettin' Played," the Mike has coined.
[QUOTE=SeanDaniel;243976]He directed the F and Q words toward people like that moreso than anybody I ever heard in my life. His position, which I agree with, was that gay or straight, men were supposed to act like men and women like women. [/QUOTE]
There are more politically correct terms to label that subgroup, and I can name a few. A lot, actually. Resorting to derogatory labels is such an ignorant way of expressing that view.
I'm confused how one can feel uncomfortable being hit on by gay men when one has had homosexual intercourse on camera?? It just doesn't make sense to me.....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! This guy just comes off as so fake and phony to me. I wish they would have played his Fratpad scenes on the right of the screen when he was going on his "I feel uncomfortable around gay people" diatribe just to show how hypocritical it all was. lol.
Heather is still my favorite by far.
[QUOTE=Dash_Vegas!;243923]Lol I think new girl will be good addition to the show... The last few replacement roommates were pretty underwhelming (Nick Brown, Brittini, Ashli, etc...)[/QUOTE]
Ashli form Sydney was awesome! She did shake things up... just not the dynamics of the house like cook would. Looking at her vevmo thread she looks pretty boring, plain and average. Now seeing the preview she looks like an annoying B***H (I say that with the most respect), it will make good tv. Besides the cast has been getting along too well. The producers must have known Adam was going to have an early departure. And they must have known they were going to add cook to the mix. #Team Mike and #Team Heather. . . can't believe I'm still watching the RW.
i loved Leroy telling Mike to be himself. love the both of them together.
Nani is just annoying with her drunken 'Bro!' comments. The whole abuse schtick didn't ring true. And the reason she was really upset was her drama was leaving. Her identity seems to revolve around drama. She seems to be one very lost, clueless little girl. I don't understand how she would expect to be a parole officer if she has zero ability to see a con artist for what he is. SCARY
I liked Naomi for the most part until the end. What is it with the whole new person doesn't deserve to be here? What reality show idiot coined that phrase?
In Adam's defense, Leroy says Adam isn't a man while Leroy is sleeping around with what seems like a lot of women. That's not something a man does, but is presented as normal by MTV. Some of Leroy's anger towards Adam is then looks kinda silly because we're all flawed - in reality it's just Leroy venting because of his own personal issues.
[QUOTE=Xeri99;243986]In Adam's defense, Leroy says Adam isn't a man while Leroy is sleeping around with what seems like a lot of women. That's not something a man does, but is presented as normal by MTV. Some of Leroy's anger towards Adam is then looks kinda silly because we're all flawed - in reality it's just Leroy venting because of his own personal issues.[/QUOTE]
I think there is a pretty large difference between the immaturity levels of a young guy who has a lot of casual sex but seems to be aware of how he is being taken care of by other people and respects their rules/property, and one who gets belligerently drunk, lies about stupid **** and is incapable of taking responsibility for his actions. I think if being a ***** guy is a "personal issue" then every guy from 13-85 (Hef is still doing his thing) has a personal issue.
[QUOTE=JL81790;243988]I think there is a pretty large difference between the immaturity levels of a young guy who has a lot of casual sex but seems to be aware of how he is being taken care of by other people and respects their rules/property, and one who gets belligerently drunk, lies about stupid **** and is incapable of taking responsibility for his actions. I think if being a ***** guy is a "personal issue" then every guy from 13-85 (Hef is still doing his thing) has a personal issue.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention Adam was talking about how he wanted to bring girls back constantly in the beginning. He apparently just didn't have as much luck. Oh maybe because he's "shy" and "a loser". But then again he's also the "biggest drug dealer in Maine" and girls love that right?
Also, regarding Nany, I never got the impression that she meant she had been abused before, but instead that she had been hit by a guy before. As in like, she could have been in the middle of a barfight and got clocked by a guy, unintentionally even. She never made it sound, to me anyways, that she had actually been abused. She just said something along the lines of "I've been hit like a dude before."
[QUOTE=cystic;243982]There are more politically correct terms to label that subgroup, and I can name a few. A lot, actually. Resorting to derogatory labels is such an ignorant way of expressing that view.[/QUOTE]
Well, like I said he used them. I didn't. I've never really used either of those terms even when I was a kid except when quoting someone else. My dad's cousin is a lesbian who has been with the same woman since before my dad was even born. Recognition of and acceptance of homosexuality are generations deep in my family. Quite frankly, I find sexuality one of the least interesting thing about people so I dislike gays or straights who make that a central part of who they hold themselves out to the world as being.
[QUOTE=SeanDaniel;243990]Well, like I said he used them. I didn't. I've never really used either of those terms even when I was a kid except when quoting someone else. My dad's cousin is a lesbian who has been with the same woman since before my dad was even born. Recognition of and acceptance of homosexuality are generations deep in my family. Quite frankly, I find sexuality one of the least interesting thing about people so I dislike gays or straights who make that a central part of who they hold themselves out to the world as being.[/QUOTE]
If you are still in contact with this gay frat dude you mentioned you should recommend him some books about gender. This whole "men should behave like men and women like women"-**** is one of the main reason that drives a lot of teenagers into suicide because they don't fit those rather random categories..
With regards to the episode, I sincerely hope that Dustin got a veeeeery bad edit, otherwise all the stuff he is saying about gay people and his attitude is just ridiculous delusionary. I don't have much more sympathy for Leroy in this respect, although he is my favorite altogether. Just getting tired of guys that seem to think gay guys will **** and abuse any straight male that is in the range of a kilometer.
[QUOTE=Xeri99;243986]In Adam's defense, Leroy says Adam isn't a man while Leroy is sleeping around with what seems like a lot of women. That's not something a man does, but is presented as normal by MTV. Some of Leroy's anger towards Adam is then looks kinda silly because we're all flawed - in reality it's just Leroy venting because of his own personal issues.[/QUOTE]
No, what makes Leroy a man is that he takes responsibility for everything he does. The reason why Adam is not a man is because he does not take responsibility for anything that he does. In my opinion, the definition of a man is an adult male who has a sense of responsibility. Adam is the antithesis of that. He has a ****** complex and will go crazy with the assumption that he will reap no repercussions from his behavior. A man doesn't make excuses for stupid ****.
Leroy = man
Mike = man
Dustin = man with massive chip on his shoulder
Adam = boy
[QUOTE=SeanDaniel;243990]Well, like I said he used them. I didn't. I've never really used either of those terms even when I was a kid except when quoting someone else. My dad's cousin is a lesbian who has been with the same woman since before my dad was even born. Recognition of and acceptance of homosexuality are generations deep in my family. Quite frankly, I find sexuality one of the least interesting thing about people so I dislike gays or straights who make that a central part of who they hold themselves out to the world as being.[/QUOTE]
I didn't mean for my post to come across as accusing to you personally, just that educating your friend that his views are misguided and ignorant would be a good idea. Gender is [B]not[/B] sex, and I am tired of people confusing the two. Gender is a social construct - nothing more, nothing less. What a person identifies themselves as, whether masculine or feminine, is their own business and doesn't affect anyone but themselves. It's unfortunate that this franchise has already had a recent cast member address this subject on the show in an educational and successful way, only for cast members like Dustin to completely cancel that progress with his hypocrisy and desperate machismo. What I, you, or anyone else thinks of how people should identify with a certain gender is about as relevant as me thinking dogs should eat dog food and cats should eat cat food.
Adam caused drama amongst everyone (mostly the guys) and it appears Cooke will cause drama amongst mostly the girls. She seems to be a great replacement.
Personally, I'm excited for Heather Cooke to make her entrance. The girls have been getting along really well this season (which is good for them, but not interesting TV).
They need to just make this the Leroy and Mike show, it would improve leaps and bounds. At least now Adams gone it seems like it's going to improve.
I love how Leroy seems to be able to predict things, first Adam going now that a girl will come in and **** off the other girls so they can see what it was like for the guys living with Adam.
[QUOTE=Xeri99;243986]In Adam's defense, Leroy says Adam isn't a man while Leroy is sleeping around with what seems like a lot of women. That's not something a man does, but is presented as normal by MTV. Some of Leroy's anger towards Adam is then looks kinda silly because we're all flawed - in reality it's just Leroy venting because of his own personal issues.[/QUOTE]
Leroy isn't lying to these girls making out he's into them for more than just the night. Adam is an insecure control freak, he's the type of guy that will cheat on his girlfriend but go bat**** crazy if she even looks at another guy. A young guy having a lot of consensual sex isn't an issue it's pretty normal. Not being able to handle your drink and acting like a twelve year old however is not.
[QUOTE=lurks;244021]
Leroy isn't lying to these girls making out he's into them for more than just the night. Adam is an insecure control freak, he's the type of guy that will cheat on his girlfriend but go bat**** crazy if she even looks at another guy. A young guy having a lot of consensual sex isn't an issue it's pretty normal. Not being able to handle your drink and acting like a twelve year old however is not.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Hooking up with multiple women =/= Trying to start relationships with multiple women.
Ok this might be considered a spoiler concerning the next Challenge so don't read this if you don't want to know anything. All I know is about the cast because I want to be spoiler free with the eliminations so this only has to do with the cast.
[spoiler]So I see this great friendship present in Leroy and Mike Mike. How are they partners on the next Challenge? Do they eventually not like eachother or was he just the only available replacement?[/spoiler]
[QUOTE=LakersFan2;244056]Ok this might be considered a spoiler concerning the next Challenge so don't read this if you don't want to know anything. All I know is about the cast because I want to be spoiler free with the eliminations so this only has to do with the cast.
[spoiler]So I see this great friendship present in Leroy and Mike Mike. How are they partners on the next Challenge? Do they eventually not like eachother or was he just the only available replacement?[/spoiler][/QUOTE]
[spoiler]Adam was Leroy's partner but got kicked off for fighting, meaning either Dustin or Mike had to be flown in as a replacement for Leroy's partner. I'm guessing Mike was the only one available.[/spoiler]
[QUOTE=fabulous788;243881]And that doesn't make her look any better. It's just sad.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Nany annoys the heck out of me in this episode with her hypocrisy, as does Heather and especially Dustin, who is on Adam's side talking crap about Leroy at times, then is on Leroy's "side" talking crap about Nany. Pick a side nah!
[QUOTE=torch115;243889]I'm so glad we have a guy like Mike in the RW house this season. He and Leroy give hope for us viewers :p[/QUOTE]
Word. Leroy and Mike are cool. I like both of them. Leroy's realness and Mike's humour.
I also think from the previews so far (I could be wrong), the girls are a bit out of place with their feeling of entitlement over Heather C. I liked Naomi before, so I'm waiting to see why she trips off.
LeRoy has become my favorite Real Worlder in recent years but I haven't watched all that much. It's pathetic how he speaks the truth yet everybody else looks the other way.
I'm glad Adam is finally gone. The guy still acted like he's in high school bragging about drug dealings and thinking he's invincible. Nany was a fool for falling for him and it's sad she realized this after watching the show but they already slept together so she's still an idiot.
PS: Heather in that outfit = schwing!
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