[QUOTE=TSPKM;147943]Hmm, new poster at Sucks says Sandra is actually an early boot? hmm makes me wonder.[/QUOTE]
There's no way. Nothing about what this new guy says adds up. There is about a 20% chance Sandra takes second and 80% that she wins. No other possibility factors into that.
I think that there are other factors. I mean like someone over at Sucks said, SU seems to know Sandra on a personal level so obviously they are going to want Sandra to win, I mean its kind of fishy to me. I would actually love it if the spoilers were wrong and a few heroes made it to the end, I'd rather not see a villian win.
[QUOTE=TSPKM;148006]I think that there are other factors. I mean like someone over at Sucks said, SU seems to know Sandra on a personal level so obviously they are going to want Sandra to win, I mean its kind of fishy to me. I would actually love it if the spoilers were wrong and a few heroes made it to the end, I'd rather not see a villian win.[/QUOTE]
And Missy is a Russell fan, and she even admits Sandra wins.
missyae originally did say that Sandra didnt do well though. It wasnt til after SU said Sandra was top 3 that missy made her prediction.
Hey sean do you know if they are announcing the cast next Saturday during the 10 year reunion thing?
[QUOTE=TSPKM;148123]missyae originally did say that Sandra didnt do well though. It wasnt til after SU said Sandra was top 3 that missy made her prediction.[/QUOTE]It was actually cuz who first revealed the final 4, but she isn't given the credit because I think her posts were deleted. Until cuz started posting, people still believed that Sandra was out early
Either way, it sounds like this new guy that is saying Amanda is final 3, is actually one of the Sucks admins intentionally trying to mix things up with fake spoilers.
[quote]Hey sean do you know if they are announcing the cast next Saturday during the 10 year reunion thing?[/quote]Seems like that's the intent, should be a pretty cool way to do it.
Sandra regards Boston Rob, Courtney, Jerri, Colby, Candice and JT among her "besties." Rupert is conspicuously missing from this list.
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Missy has stated that she thinks Sandra will be the star of the season.
Also she said this about why Russell wishes he alligned with Amanda instead of Parvati:
[quote]I guess sometimes players find out more about other players after they have finished filming. Maybe Parv is not as easy to get along with as someone like maybe Amanda is. Of course there are always 2 sides to everything. I have a feeling that even to this day a few of these players on 20 still do not know if someone was backstabbing them until they see it air themselves. [/quote]
After seeing Russell's interview with Jenna Morasca on EW.com, it is almost abundantly clear to me that Erika Shay was at least partially responsible for facilitating the Parvati/Russell alliance. I like Parvati but it's not fair that she has her bffl in casting to help her not only get on the show but form an alliance.
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From this weekend's festivities....if all the boot lists were combined together, this would be both ends of the list from first ever voted out to most recent winner.
SU attended the party this weekend, probably as Parvati's guest. He says the pictures of Parvati and Amanda were forced by CBS and because Parvati is under contract with CBS, she had to take them, even though she does not like Amanda.
SU said this about Amanda: "Shes a ***** who thinks is high and mighty. No wonder Parv cant stand her, and probably why she loses so much. She wanted the least amount of people "bothering" her. "
In response to a picture of Sandra and Rupert kind of hugging, SU said it means nothing and that everyone talks crap about Rupert behind his back.
Parvati/Amanda and Sandra/Rupert are the friendships that fall apart this season and any pictures to show otherwise are not genuine on the cast's part, it sounds like.
Parv and Amanda are not friends anymore.
The Rupert/Sandra thing i believe is all still speculation. SU said the picture means nothing one way or the other, and never said specifically that Sandra and Rupert dislike each other like Parv/Amanda.
On Sucks it seems that the Parv fans have their pants in a tizzy and are grasping at straws that Parv wins. And started this Rupert/Sandra nonsense. I also thought i read someone on sucks where SU said there is no truth to the Rupert/Sandra stuff.
I believe Rupert had some charity thing that many of the Season 20 people went to. Had Sandra and Rupert really disliked each other i doubt she would go out of her way to go to it.
I'm not saying Rupert votes for Sandra or anything like that, but i dont think they are on a Parv/Amanda level. Rupert and Sandra i would guess are more on a Amber/Jerri level on All Stars. Two who just lost touch.
SU has said that Stephenie's shoulder is dislocated by Parvati, and Rupert's toe broken by Rob.
He has corrected his previous statement that 4 idols are used and that all are effective. He now claims 6-8 idols are used and not all are effective. I spoke to someone who was at the party this weekend who claims Rupert was idoled. This could kind of be true -- maybe someone just played an idol who didn't need to play one since final 6 is the last time it can be played.
He also said that Russell, who gets 0 jury votes because they "can't stand him," votes in the majority every time he attends tribal council.
SU siad about the 6-8 idols that it is because nobody wanted to take chances so they played the idol as soon as they found it. Missy told me over email a while back that Russell found about 4 and gave 1 to Parvati.
Danielle is NOT idoled.
Per Mark Burnett, the Heroes win the first reward challenge.
[URL="http://heroesvsvillains.survivor.com/heros-vs-villains/2010.01.10/jeff-probst-and-mark-burnett-interviews.html#more-475"]He stated[/URL]: "and we had one women finish the challenge, and win it for her tribe, topless."
It also appears that the James injury comes from the same challenge Mike Borassi was evacuated from last season:
[quote]He explained about Schmergenball, the challenge that took out Mike Borassi in Samoa. “We liked it so much that we brought it back and another person was injured. I won’t say wether it was an evacuation, but there was another major problem. So then that challenge was thrown in the trash. It will never be back.[/quote]
I have now heard this from 4 different sources, so I feel okay enough to post this:
The final vote between Sandra, Parvati and Russell will be 5-4-0. When emailing missyae in the past, she gave me the impression that it was a blowout for Sandra, but she has now retracted that to me. Sandra is still the likely winner, but the reason people like SU have refused to officially declare a winner is because Jerri is the only one to not discuss her vote, and it's split 4-4 among the rest of them. Jerri is heavily thought to vote for Sandra, but she hasn't talked.
One storyline we may see come into play episode 1, that correlates with the post by cuz a while back saying Stephenie came into conflict with JT and Rupert over the food situation: Rupert demanded that the tribe kill some chickens right off the bat (might be their reward), but in this case, the rest of the tribe wouldn't allow him to do it.
One thing to remember: I posted (post #277) in this thread who Sandra regarded as her "besties." Five of those listed were Survivor 20 jurors. Sandra gets 5 votes. Correlation? Maybe.
The only exception I'd maybe make, would be Amanda. It has been said many times that Parvati hates Amanda. In such a close 5-4 vote, if Amanda was among the 5 who voted Sandra, it could have fueled Parvati's dislike for Amanda in that she cost her a million dollars.
Colby, Amanda and Rupert are probably the votes that could go one way or the other (I could see Colby respecting Parv's immunity run despite being a Sandra bestie). Parvati probably gets Coach and Danielle, while Sandra probably gets JT, Courtney, Candice and Jerri.
Do you know who votes for Sandra and Parv?
Is it Jt/Courtney/Candace/Amanda for Sandra?
And Colby/Coach/Rupert/Danielle for Parv?
And Jerri the deciding vote.
[QUOTE=asamber1;150943]Do you know who votes for Sandra and Parv?
Is it Jt/Courtney/Candace/Amanda for Sandra?
And Colby/Coach/Rupert/Danielle for Parv?
And Jerri the deciding vote.[/QUOTE]
This seems to be the best guess, but I don't think anyone knows for sure.
[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;150880]
One thing to remember: I posted (post #277) in this thread who Sandra regarded as her "besties." Five of those listed were Survivor 20 jurors. Sandra gets 5 votes. Correlation? Maybe.
The only exception I'd maybe make, would be Amanda. It has been said many times that Parvati hates Amanda. In such a close 5-4 vote, if Amanda was among the 5 who voted Sandra, it could have fueled Parvati's dislike for Amanda in that she cost her a million dollars.
Colby, Amanda and Rupert are probably the votes that could go one way or the other (I could see Colby respecting Parv's immunity run despite being a Sandra bestie). Parvati probably gets Coach and Danielle, while Sandra probably gets JT, Courtney, Candice and Jerri.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=asamber1;150943]Do you know who votes for Sandra and Parv?
Is it Jt/Courtney/Candace/Amanda for Sandra?
And Colby/Coach/Rupert/Danielle for Parv?
And Jerri the deciding vote.[/QUOTE]On the whole, that's what I'm guessing it probably is. SU promised an angry jury speech, and really, I can't see it coming from anyone else aside from the deluded Rupert who feels it is everyone else's job to let him win. So I'm feeling like Rupert is more likely than not in the Parvati column.
Here is what Missy said to me via email in mid-December, which SU deemed incorrect after I posted it here (and which she has since backtracked on):
[quote]Candice votes for Sandra. Lopsided votes. You know Jerri, Rupert are sure things for Sandra.
Amanda got screwed by Parv so theres another vote.
JT got screwed by Parv and Russell, theres another one.
Coach would never vote for Russell and might vote for Parv but its doubtful..
Danielle, not sure, she ended up getting caught up in the female thing instead of stick with Russell so she might have voted for Parv.
[/quote]So Danielle is number 1 for Parv.
I count Coach as number 2 for Parv based on a) that Missy said he might vote her, b) the respect that he voiced for her in his pre-season videos, c) that SU said Sandra "gets loud" to him at a tribal council.
Missy omitted Colby and Courtney from that email to me. Courtney is an obvious Sandra vote, but her omission of Colby might indicate he is a Parvati vote? I can see him respecting her immunity wins.
Maybe Missy wasn't aware of Rupert's bitterness at the time? I think Amanda and Rupert are both up in the air because we really don't know the details of what happened between them and Parvati/Sandra.
[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;150982]
Missy omitted Colby and Courtney from that email to me. Courtney is an obvious Sandra vote, but her omission of Colby might indicate he is a Parvati vote? I can see him respecting her immunity wins.[/QUOTE]
I'm a little confused. I know that you said that a female went on an immunity run. I thought that it was Jerri? So is it now looking like it was Parvati? Or did they both have runs of their own?
I did say it was Jerri at first, I had asked SU who believed it was her. Since then, I took it back because SU and Missy both posted that Parvati dominated the post merge challenges.
[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;150988]I did say it was Jerri at first, I had asked SU who said yes it was her. Since then, I took it back because SU and Missy both posted that Parvati dominated the post merge challenges.[/QUOTE]
Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying for me, as always :)
For the RC, there seem to be a few matchups spelled out for us thanks to screencaps at TDT:
Tyson and Rob vs. James and Rupert
Courtney and Sandra vs. Candice and Sugar
And from the spoiler of Steph, I think it's safe to say that she goes up against Parvati. So it's Steph and Amanda/Cirie vs Parvati and Danielle/Jerri, unless they do a guy-girl round (which would seem a bit extreme).
Here's my question though. TDT says that the Villains win because they have fishing gear at camp. But Mark Burnett said that a female wins for her tribe and does it topless (which has been spoiled to be Sugar), which to me sounds like she won the whole challenge for her tribe...so how does that work?
Parvati is paired with Danielle, as I was told by a source.
The press stays around often til episode 2 so maybe Sandra and Tyson's fishing gear comes around day 4 or 5? The heroes definitely seem to win in episode 1-- between Missy talking about Rupert wanting to kill the chickens, and Burnett's comment that Sugar runs back topless (after it being pulled off by Sandra) to winf or her tribe.
[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;150998]Parvati is paired with Danielle, as I was told by a source.
The press stays around often til episode 2 so maybe Sandra and Tyson's fishing gear comes around day 4 or 5? The heroes definitely seem to win in episode 1-- between Missy talking about Rupert wanting to kill the chickens, and Burnett's comment that Sugar runs back topless (after it being pulled off by Sandra) to winf or her tribe.[/QUOTE]
It makes sense for the first reward to be fire, as it has been for what seems to be every single season. Fishing gear is usually 2nd or 3rd reward. That makes much more sense, I didn't know that the press stayed so long.
Coach and Russell are also a pair for the first reward, in [URL="http://www.youtube.com/user/SPsurvivorvideos#p/a/u/1/UsGHfYJf944"]this ET preview [/URL]around 28 seconds, you can see the other 8 villains to the side cheering them on.
So the pairs look to be
Coach & Russell vs. Colby and/or Tom and/or JT
Parvati & Danielle vs. Steph & Amanda or Cirie
Jerri & Randy vs Colby, Tom or JT and Amanda or Cirie
Sandra & Courtney vs. Sugar & Candice
Rob & Tyson vs. Rupert & James
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[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;151002]Coach and Russell are also a pair for the first reward, in [URL="http://www.youtube.com/user/SPsurvivorvideos#p/a/u/1/UsGHfYJf944"]this ET preview [/URL]around 28 seconds, you can see the other 8 villains to the side cheering them on.
So the pairs look to be
Coach & Russell vs. Colby and/or Tom and/or JT
[B]Parvati & Danielle vs. Steph & Amanda or Cirie[/B]
Jerri & Randy vs Colby, Tom or JT and Amanda or Cirie
Sandra & Courtney vs. Sugar & Candice
Rob & Tyson vs. Rupert & James[/QUOTE]
In the other video they just uploaded, looks like Parvati is tackling Cirie. So Steph and Cirie are together.
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It also appears that the Heroes have Stephenie, Tom, Colby, James, JT and Candice competing in phase 1 of the immunity challenge, while the Villains have Danielle, Courtney, Parvati, Russell, Coach and Tyson. There are a few other pics that show the same 12 people bring the boats back to shore. That leaves Amanda, Cirie, Rupert and Sugar for the Heroes, and Jerri, Sandra, Rob and Randy doing whatever phase 2 involves (more puzzles?)
[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;151033]That leaves Amanda, Cirie, Rupert and Sugar for the Heroes, and Jerri, Sandra, Rob and Randy doing whatever phase 2 involves (more puzzles?)[/QUOTE]
People were saying that this was very similar to the first IC in Cook Islands where they had to take the braces holding the boat together and turn them into ladder steps, then take the flame up the ladder and light the top. Seems kind of like a weak puzzle, but definitely a possibility.
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