The Challenge 40: Battle of the Eras - The End of an Era (Part 1 & 2)

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Jenny being in first place so far and whining like Berna and about to quit is not something I had on my Bingo card. She's like borderline manic. Her highs and lows are so drastic.

im screaming. producers saw that kyland can outrun Jordan and thought of something FAST to give jordan the advantage. this is sad to watch. never seen a final with so much swimming. The rigging hasnt been secretive in years

im screaming. producers saw that kyland can outrun Jordan and thought of something FAST to give jordan the advantage. this is sad to watch. never seen a final with so much swimming. The rigging hasnt been secretive in years

Any normal final that's 85% running and puzzles and 15% swimming, Kyland's winning. So they made it 85% swimming lol.

 

 

Really hope your one hand doesn't cramp up when you're going around a sharp turn at 185 mph

LMAOOOOOO????

I said I hope it doesn't!!! lol

I hope it does

They still call it "TJ's Final"? Yikes. I doubt he does anything but read a cue card.

im screaming. producers saw that kyland can outrun Jordan and thought of something FAST to give jordan the advantage. this is sad to watch. never seen a final with so much swimming. The rigging hasnt been secretive in years

I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking this lol. 

They still call it "TJ's Final"? Yikes. I doubt he does anything but read a cue card.

**** 

didn't kyland beat everyone including jordan in the mini final... and now suddenly every checkpoint in the final is water. It's been 17 years since nehemiah won and clearly they don't want that record broken. With all the blatant rigging in the elims this season i wouldn't be suprised if they rigged cory or nelson from a win or two 

Swimming can't keep being the downfall of black folks on this show. A lot of these people have nothing but free time when not filming, please take lessons! So if Cory would have beaten Derek they really would have set Cory and Kyland up to lose this final to Bananas and Jordan. They did that on purpose. Just like when they do mid-season purges that's 90% swimming. 

Swimming can't keep being the downfall of black folks on this show. A lot of these people have nothing but free time when not filming, please take lessons! So if Cory would have beaten Derek they really would have set Cory and Kyland up to lose this final to Bananas and Jordan. They did that on purpose. Just like when they do mid-season purges that's 90% swimming. 

There has never been this much swimming. Ever. This is literally a "who is the best swimmer" contest thus far.

Swimming can't keep being the downfall of black folks on this show. A lot of these people have nothing but free time when not filming, please take lessons! So if Cory would have beaten Derek they really would have set Cory and Kyland up to lose this final to Bananas and Jordan. They did that on purpose. Just like when they do mid-season purges that's 90% swimming. 

a white person taught to swim at 1 will always be x3 superior to a black person learning at 30. We will never excel until they cast a natural born black swimmer. 

Wasnt there a black woman who was really great at swimming? Maybe Bayleigh?  Or someone on USA? I feel like we had one and we never saw em again smh

Im screaming because I was defending Kylands swimming only for the allegations to be true. I cannot be surprised tho, like omg they are so quick on their feet ****. They saw Kyland out run Jordan one too many times, and immediately crafted this final to cater to him. 

Also this really does show that Tori is pretty good at dailies and shes well rounded but whenever she has competent opponents in a final her true colors are shown. I thought Tori was stronger in the water, but not only that, the last daily where she got outran by everyone except Michele. Its just yikes.

a white person taught to swim at 1 will always be x3 superior to a black person learning at 30. We will never excel until they cast a natural born black swimmer. 

I'm not disagreeing. Someone who grew up taking swimming lessons since the age of six will always be naturally better in water. But swimming is a learnt skill that can be improved on like any other skill (endurance, puzzles etc). I'm saying that they know there's going to be some element of swimming (not to this level) in EVERY season of this show that's ever existed - if you're planning on being a regular you have to work on areas you're lacking (and who knows, maybe Kyland has and will continue to). I didn't learn to swim until I was an adult. And I paid for lessons because I was embarrassed I could drown in the 6 ft at 20 years old. I'm pretty good now. 

Wasnt there a black woman who was really great at swimming? Maybe Bayleigh?  Or someone on USA? I feel like we had one and we never saw em again smh

Justine who was partnered with Bananas on World Champs was pretty good. 

Ima need Rochelle from The Craft to come on The Challenge and show all these mfs how a real bad bítćh can swim.

Reddit now saying Kyland doesnt have what it takes to ever be a challenge champion, they are so funny.

Jenny's body is so sick. 

Was Kyland fined for peeing on the sign

Was Kyland fined for peeing on the sign

That king.

Wasnt there a black woman who was really great at swimming? Maybe Bayleigh?  Or someone on USA? I feel like we had one and we never saw em again smh

Bayleigh, Big T, and Desi who got DQed because of Enzo

Edit: Michaela and Chanelle too right?

Queen Tor Tor with the 7 daily wins. Y'all can stop saying that she can only win on a season flops now.

Not sure what daily wins have to do with winning a season, but go off!

Swimming can't keep being the downfall of black folks on this show. A lot of these people have nothing but free time when not filming, please take lessons! So if Cory would have beaten Derek they really would have set Cory and Kyland up to lose this final to Bananas and Jordan. They did that on purpose. Just like when they do mid-season purges that's 90% swimming. 

I need people to realize that working on something doesn't automatically mean you will be great at it. People are still naturally good/bad at things. People can improve at something by working on it, but that doesn't mean they will be great at it. A lot of people train for the Olympics, but most do not make it.

And yes dreamdoll, my queen Big T is a great swimmer! I remember when she kicked even CT's *** in a swim on Double Agents.

hasn't cara maria trained for swimming for years and yet she's still not that good

Did they even swim on total madness? Bayleigh and Desi are white washed from where they were raised so it makes sense. B.I.G. T is Bri'ish so that also adds up. Everyone else that can't swim is being rigged out due to RACISM.  

Let me educate you twinks. African Americans can't swim for shit because our grandparents weren't allowed to swim as most pools were WHITE ONLY and pools for Colored People were not properly maintained and some white folks went out of their way to harass black people who swam. Some pools allowed both but only allowed blacks at a certain hour when whites were away. This TRAUMA is why our grandparents didn't teach our parents to swim. And our parents didn't swim so when do you think we ever went swimming as little black children? Only if we had white friends. The rest of us barely touched a pool growing up and add onto the fact black girls weren't allowed to get their hair wet. We have been doomed from the start of this country. Production knows this but they don't care. 

Swimming should never be the end all be all in a final. The fact that swimming is 85% of the final so far is HIGHLY suspicious.

Did they even swim on total madness? Bayleigh and Desi are white washed from where they were raised so it makes sense. B.I.G. T is Bri'ish so that also adds up. Everyone else that can't swim is being rigged out due to RACISM.  

Let me educate you twinks. African Americans can't swim for shit because our grandparents weren't allowed to swim as most pools were WHITE ONLY and pools for Colored People were not properly maintained and some white folks went out of their way to harass black people who swam. Some pools allowed both but only allowed blacks at a certain hour when whites were away. This TRAUMA is why our grandparents didn't teach our parents to swim. And our parents didn't swim so when do you think we ever went swimming as little black children? Only if we had white friends. The rest of us barely touched a pool growing up and add onto the fact black girls weren't allowed to get their hair wet. We have been doomed from the start of this country. Production knows this but they don't care. 

I found this an interesting read:

"According to the CDC, "Black children between the ages of 5 to 19 are 5.5 times more likely to die by drowning in swimming pools than white children are. Drowning is a leading cause of injury-related death for all children and toddlers, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics. But those dismal statistics among Black children may be a result of intergenerational trauma surrounding Black people and swimming."

"Water has represented life or death for Black Americans as far back as the Transatlantic Slave Trade. According to the Slave Voyages Database, which documents voyages from 1514 to 1866, of the more than 12 million African people put onto slave ships, nearly two million people did not survive the journey. Some chose death by drowning over enslavement, while others succumbed to conditions aboard and were tossed overboard. Water became synonymous with survival or perishing..."

insert the infamous Killmonger quote: "Bury me in the ocean with my ancestors who jumped from ships, 'cause they knew death was better than *******."

(Really? We censoring bond age here now? **** )

I hope it won't be like this for the next upcoming seasons. Swimming isn't easy to learn at a big age as people think.

Even without the elimination tori did before the final I think she still woulda flopped badly. I thought she was decent but when she has actual competition she flops

 

Queen Tor Tor with the 7 daily wins. Y'all can stop saying that she can only win on a season flops now.

Not sure what daily wins have to do with winning a season, but go off!

This was a stupid comment. My point was that Tori is consistently outperforming the women seemingly much stronger than her. But you go off!

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