So am I the only one that really liked the episodes? They legit had an old school feel. Focus on who is going into the elimination, mission, focus in on who is going into elimination, elimination. The main show is too long. This could be a little longer but it's not rushed. We even got a lot of them having fun
You are spot on here. I thought it was great. Wach episode could have used 8-10 more minutes of relationship and house storyline but Paraflop has yet to realize that it's a streaming network with no time constraints so other than that it was really good.
So am I the only one that really liked the episodes? They legit had an old school feel. Focus on who is going into the elimination, mission, focus in on who is going into elimination, elimination. The main show is too long. This could be a little longer but it's not rushed. We even got a lot of them having fun
You are spot on here. I thought it was great. Wach episode could have used 8-10 more minutes of relationship and house storyline but Paraflop has yet to realize that it's a streaming network with no time constraints so other than that it was really good.
I loved the episodes, I thought they were super fun, and I don't mind the casting choices as much as others. And yes I don't understand why it needs to be exactly 45 minutes
This mentality I don't get...So Mark shouldn't be voted in because he pitched a show? This is why they should not put him on a cast it's conflict of interest
This mentality I don't get...So Mark shouldn't be voted in because he pitched a show? This is why they should not put him on a cast it's conflict of interest
This mentality I don't get...So Mark shouldn't be voted in because he pitched a show? This is why they should not put him on a cast it's conflict of interest
EXACTLY! He doesn't just get immunity cause he campaigned for this. Kailah did the lord's work getting him in and we stan her for it! Too bad LT couldn't finish the mission.
This is SPOT ON. TJ is actually enjoyable on this and y'all know I'm his number one hater. He is TJ the host and has fun with it. His "handler"/showrunner cheesy persona they make him do on the trash version is awful. He can't pull it off and it's just corny and annoying. He's a great decent host on All-Stars though! I hope they recognize what works on here and apply it to the trash mtv version.
I liked this it reminds me all the times we would hope for wild returns like Tina, Veronica (before D30), Brad and others to mix it up with the Jordan's and Kailahs and now we're actually getting it plus more
This mentality I don't get...So Mark shouldn't be voted in because he pitched a show? This is why they should not put him on a cast it's conflict of interest
I only watched a couple of minutes of the episodes, but from what I saw, it seems like no one tweeting about this recognizes that half of the authority went in with 0 intention of voting in Nehemiah or Syrus to honor LT's request, and then somehow they got strongarmed into only voting between those 2 and Mark. They should have just told Kailah to **** off and did what they wanted to do honestly.
Gamer said feel like Wes & Kailah changed the way cast members of All Stars will play in the future (in a good way). Their impact! Before the cast went in like it was a reunion - they went in there and started playing from the jump!
did gamer miss all of S2?!?! ***
Exactly. Some cutthroat moves were made. But I guess since it was Casey doing them and not Wes and Kailah (recency bias) then it doesn't get acknowledged?
I finally got around to watching episode 2 and I liked it better than the premiere... I'm thinking I need to rewatch the premiere though... might not have been as open to it bc of my own personal biases.
Having said that, though, I still don't like Sylvia or Kailah. Sylvia was better for me on this episode, but Kailah continues to annoy me.
Other thoughts:
*** is up with Jordan's hair.
Wes makes this show into something else than the previous two incarnations.
I actually liked Melinda for the first time ever during episode 2.
The Jonna and Tina beef was interesting - makes me think back to their cordial convo back on the AS2 premeire.
The music isn't as good as the previous seasons
I like me some Roni, never seen her before.
Mark getting to talk to his momma and her giving him a positive update was heartwarming. I'm glad they included this because ever since Mark mentioned his mother was battling stage four cancer, I've been wondering how her health was faring.
MJ needs to stop making that weird birdcall noise thing that he does.
I felt bad to see LT out so early, but I'm also glad Mark won.
Derrick isn't annoying me as much as he has in the past; hopefully this season he and Nehemiah tone down their BS rivalry.
Definitely loved Wes not being able to swing properly.
Tina's DQ was one of the funniest things I've ever seen on these shows.
I agree that Wes makes this show into something the previous two incarnations weren't. Think that means All Stars will now suck. Unpopular opinion I'm sure but he made the Challenge different as well with his debut season of Fresh Meat. I hated that season and the show was never the same again. It just kept sucking more and we are where we are today where it is unwatchable. All Stars had two good seasons before the likes of Wes infected it but I think this is the beginning of the end. Production is trying to make it too much like the main show which isn't needed. It was a good alternative to the main show. Now that that seems to be done there's really no point.
I dont agree that Wes changed the main show but everything else is agreeable imo. If they gonna continue to bring younger talent ill get more uninterested because the main show is literally right there.
Eeeeh I really enjoyed these first 2 episodes. If left me wanting more straight away so I can only take that as a good thing. No idea what the point of Melinda being in this season if she was injured mind. I liked the second daily & think it's so much better when they bring a bit of humour back to the challenges rather than the spy BS. Was sad to see Cynthia go - I'd never seen the original seasons her & Roni were on and wanted to see a bit more of them, hoping I see Roni more throughout the season.
Yeah, sadly, you might be right. If this is the path this series is headed down, maybe I don't want there to be an AS4, lol.
it's a slippery slope. Next logical step is to add John the sexual harasser to AS. Then I really wouldn't need to watch. Oh well at least we got two more decent seasons out of this dead horse that is The Challenge.
Eeeeh I really enjoyed these first 2 episodes. If left me wanting more straight away so I can only take that as a good thing. No idea what the point of Melinda being in this season if she was injured mind. I liked the second daily & think it's so much better when they bring a bit of humour back to the challenges rather than the spy BS. Was say to see Cynthia go - I'd never seen the original seasons her & Roni were on and wanted to see a bit more of them, hoping I see Roni more throughout the season.
Good luck getting to know anything about Roni's. Ya know we need more Wes confessionals and Jordan's fake wokeness.
I agree that Wes makes this show into something the previous two incarnations weren't. Think that means All Stars will now suck. Unpopular opinion I'm sure but he made the Challenge different as well with his debut season of Fresh Meat. I hated that season and the show was never the same again. It just kept sucking more and we are where we are today where it is unwatchable. All Stars had two good seasons before the likes of Wes infected it but I think this is the beginning of the end. Production is trying to make it too much like the main show which isn't needed. It was a good alternative to the main show. Now that that seems to be done there's really no point.
The Fresh Meat "Evan/Kenny" are what started that dark era for me.
I agree that Wes makes this show into something the previous two incarnations weren't. Think that means All Stars will now suck. Unpopular opinion I'm sure but he made the Challenge different as well with his debut season of Fresh Meat. I hated that season and the show was never the same again. It just kept sucking more and we are where we are today where it is unwatchable. All Stars had two good seasons before the likes of Wes infected it but I think this is the beginning of the end. Production is trying to make it too much like the main show which isn't needed. It was a good alternative to the main show. Now that that seems to be done there's really no point.
The Fresh Meat "Evan/Kenny" are what started that dark era for me.
They all started the same season (Fresh Meat) they all helped kick off the dark era. Then JOhn had his break out season on The Island and it was complete. I feel like we are getting our second wave of this currently on All Stars.
Eeeeh I really enjoyed these first 2 episodes. If left me wanting more straight away so I can only take that as a good thing. No idea what the point of Melinda being in this season if she was injured mind. I liked the second daily & think it's so much better when they bring a bit of humour back to the challenges rather than the spy BS. Was say to see Cynthia go - I'd never seen the original seasons her & Roni were on and wanted to see a bit more of them, hoping I see Roni more throughout the season.
Good luck getting to know anything about Roni's. Ya know we need more Wes confessionals and Jordan's fake wokeness.
Yeah, sadly, you might be right. If this is the path this series is headed down, maybe I don't want there to be an AS4, lol.
it's a slippery slope. Next logical step is to add John the sexual harasser to AS. Then I really wouldn't need to watch. Oh well at least we got two more decent seasons out of this dead horse that is The Challenge.
Sexual harassers Nia, Tina & Veronica are already interested he cast. Stop putting people on pedestals all of them are the same.
I'm the dope that is a sucker for the Wes stuff, but agree we should see more of the other castmembers. I wish each episode was longer because there aren't traditional commercials which would help make these feel not as rushed. Also miss the Dailies that would play on MTV.com. With all the footage on the editing room floor they should be using The Challenge YouTube channel to play footage that won't make the episodes and give more of a reason to subscribe to P+.
Yeah, sadly, you might be right. If this is the path this series is headed down, maybe I don't want there to be an AS4, lol.
it's a slippery slope. Next logical step is to add John the sexual harasser to AS. Then I really wouldn't need to watch. Oh well at least we got two more decent seasons out of this dead horse that is The Challenge.
Sexual harassers Nia, Tina & Veronica are already interested he cast. Stop putting people on pedestals all of them are the same.
Now we are saying *JORDAN* is any type of woke (fake or real)? I feel like people are just throwing the word woke in every sentence that it's just starting to be meaningless. Isn't he a Trump supporter? Since when are Trump supporters and fake woke people confused for each other?
And to those using the term "fake woke," are there ANY people who are socially conscious and critique structures of power/inequality that you think are "legit" woke, or do you just use the term "fake woke" to describe all of them?
You are spot on here. I thought it was great. Wach episode could have used 8-10 more minutes of relationship and house storyline but Paraflop has yet to realize that it's a streaming network with no time constraints so other than that it was really good.
I loved the episodes, I thought they were super fun, and I don't mind the casting choices as much as others. And yes I don't understand why it needs to be exactly 45 minutes
This mentality I don't get...So Mark shouldn't be voted in because he pitched a show? This is why they should not put him on a cast it's conflict of interest
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I like that he was voted in lol, shows that everyone's on an even playing field
EXACTLY! He doesn't just get immunity cause he campaigned for this. Kailah did the lord's work getting him in and we stan her for it! Too bad LT couldn't finish the mission.
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greatdecent host on All-Stars though! I hope they recognize what works on here and apply it to the trash mtv version.I liked this it reminds me all the times we would hope for wild returns like Tina, Veronica (before D30), Brad and others to mix it up with the Jordan's and Kailahs and now we're actually getting it plus more
Exactly. Some cutthroat moves were made. But I guess since it was Casey doing them and not Wes and Kailah (recency bias) then it doesn't get acknowledged?
Agree to Disagree.
I finally got around to watching episode 2 and I liked it better than the premiere... I'm thinking I need to rewatch the premiere though... might not have been as open to it bc of my own personal biases.
Having said that, though, I still don't like Sylvia or Kailah. Sylvia was better for me on this episode, but Kailah continues to annoy me.
Other thoughts:
I agree that Wes makes this show into something the previous two incarnations weren't. Think that means All Stars will now suck. Unpopular opinion I'm sure but he made the Challenge different as well with his debut season of Fresh Meat. I hated that season and the show was never the same again. It just kept sucking more and we are where we are today where it is unwatchable. All Stars had two good seasons before the likes of Wes infected it but I think this is the beginning of the end. Production is trying to make it too much like the main show which isn't needed. It was a good alternative to the main show. Now that that seems to be done there's really no point.
Yeah, sadly, you might be right. If this is the path this series is headed down, maybe I don't want there to be an AS4, lol.
I dont agree that Wes changed the main show but everything else is agreeable imo. If they gonna continue to bring younger talent ill get more uninterested because the main show is literally right there.
If think the series would be fine, but we really don't need CT, Bananas, & Wes to start ruining it
The game should be Cutthroat. It was long before Wes showed up. Watch Seasons or Sexes for starters. Especially the women.
A lot to say but I'll just say I agree with what most have said
Eeeeh I really enjoyed these first 2 episodes. If left me wanting more straight away so I can only take that as a good thing. No idea what the point of Melinda being in this season if she was injured mind. I liked the second daily & think it's so much better when they bring a bit of humour back to the challenges rather than the spy BS. Was sad to see Cynthia go - I'd never seen the original seasons her & Roni were on and wanted to see a bit more of them, hoping I see Roni more throughout the season.
it's a slippery slope. Next logical step is to add John the sexual harasser to AS. Then I really wouldn't need to watch. Oh well at least we got two more decent seasons out of this dead horse that is The Challenge.
Good luck getting to know anything about Roni's. Ya know we need more Wes confessionals and Jordan's fake wokeness.
The Fresh Meat "Evan/Kenny" are what started that dark era for me.
They all started the same season (Fresh Meat) they all helped kick off the dark era. Then JOhn had his break out season on The Island and it was complete. I feel like we are getting our second wave of this currently on All Stars.
I just hope they continue to try and cast old schoolers we haven't seen yet instead of recycling the same ones.
Roni seems like a nice lady but to chill for tv
Sexual harassers Nia, Tina & Veronica are already interested he cast. Stop putting people on pedestals all of them are the same.
Can we just ban ChavoKaren and MJ?
I'm the dope that is a sucker for the Wes stuff, but agree we should see more of the other castmembers. I wish each episode was longer because there aren't traditional commercials which would help make these feel not as rushed. Also miss the Dailies that would play on MTV.com. With all the footage on the editing room floor they should be using The Challenge YouTube channel to play footage that won't make the episodes and give more of a reason to subscribe to P+.
okay karen
Now we are saying *JORDAN* is any type of woke (fake or real)? I feel like people are just throwing the word woke in every sentence that it's just starting to be meaningless. Isn't he a Trump supporter? Since when are Trump supporters and fake woke people confused for each other?
And to those using the term "fake woke," are there ANY people who are socially conscious and critique structures of power/inequality that you think are "legit" woke, or do you just use the term "fake woke" to describe all of them?
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