I'm not even being mean? It's not inaccurate to say Sam is heavy and grossly out of shape. She's a very nice lady but she actually does legitimate harm to the brand of the show.
Harm what brand? I love seeing regular people show up to compete, she has been able to compete. You're doing a lil much, it's no different than some of these athletes that show up and can't keep up. She's still there and doing fine. This show was never built on athleticism.
The difference between Veronica and Aneesa is that Veronica doesn't cry that she always flops and no one wants to be her partner. Veronica knows her size and doesn't care, she uses her political game. Aneesa kept crying about flopping but kept coming back bigger and playing victim cause people didn't want to be her partner.
My main issue with Sam (putting her being out of shape aside) is she's not a big enough personality or force on the show to make a team of 7 or 8 women champs. Veronica is.
Like if I'm doing an All Stars Champions team, am I giving Sam a spot over Laurel? Veronica? Katie? Sarah? Susie? Julie? Jodi? Absolutely not. That's an iconic team and you could also put some facebook casual fan favs like Emily.
We won't, that's the issue. If it was the main show, I'd at least be happy we were getting more. But this? It should be cancelled eventually anyway since there can't just be two shows, and it was made for a specific purpose that has now been basically completely abandoned, so it's about damn time to cancel this shit.
Even if we get ICONIC random OG returns like Flora's, they're just gonna be edited out for the same scenes of Laurel and Nicole loving each other 10x and Kam and Leroy talking about breastfeeding 10x.
I hate what it's become but if it means I keep getting Katie, Tina and some surprises like hopefully Marie and Irulan I say keep it coming. Hopefully Skye sees that the OGs provide while the BB/UKers FLOP.
IF WE GET KAILAH AND AMANDA ON A SEASON TOGETHER AGAIN......
I really, really don't think Amanda will be back any time soon with her son's family tragedy. Her son's age is way too vulnerable.
I'm not buying that at all. Not sure how tha makes her son "more vulnerable" I don't think that should or would play into Amanda's decision. We all know I can't stand Amanda but there's zero reason she can't return. By all accounts, her son is in very safe hands while mom earns money. Now if she follows that up with a vacation so she can bang some loser then it's a different story.
I hate what it's become but if it means I keep getting Katie, Tina and some surprises like hopefully Marie and Irulan I say keep it coming. Hopefully Skkkye sees that the OGs provide while the BB/UKers FLOP.
the OGs really do bring it, we need production to put some respect on their names
I really don't get how we haven't gotten a real world vs road rules - especially early on - an iconic call back is beyond fitting. And OG's constantly provide - from first boots gone wayyyyy too soon like Cynthia to champs like Rachel and everyone in between
I want a Real World vs Road Rules before this is canceled. Here is my realistic cast that I think would be successful with OG and Casual fans.
Real World
Beth (Los Angeles)
Julie (New Orleans)
Lori (New York 2)
Irulan (Las Vegas)
Sarah (Brooklyn)
Jonna (Cancun)
Latoya (St. Thomas)
Marie (St. Thomas)
Teck (Hawaii)
CT (Paris)
Brad (San Diego)
John (Key West)
Leroy (Las Vegas 2)
Zach (San Diego 2)
Frank (San Diego 2)
Marlon (Portland)
Road Rules
Susie (Down Under)
Holly (Latin America)
Veronica (Semester At Sea)
Katie (The Quest)
Rachel (Campus Crawl)
Tina (South Pacific)
Angel (Viewers Revenge)
Tori (Viewers Revenge)
Mark (The First Adventure)
Kefla (Down Under)
Yes (Semester At Sea)
Laterrian (Maximum Velocity Tour)
Adam (The Quest)
Darrell (Campus Crawl)
Shane (Campus Crawl)
Jeremy (South Pacific)
Not sure Irulan Marie or Teck are realistic but I'm all for this cast. If we're being realistic though Derrick K replaces Jeremy and Chavez replaces Marlon. I don't know if Toya and Angel are realistic but I like them so I ignored that
I don't think in the Year of our Lord 2025 are they ever dedicating a team to a show that's been cancelled for the past 6 years...LET ALONE a show that's been cancelled for 18...
I'm not buying that at all. Not sure how tha makes her son "more vulnerable" I don't think that should or would play into Amanda's decision. We all know I can't stand Amanda but there's zero reason she can't return. By all accounts, her son is in very safe hands while mom earns money. Now if she follows that up with a vacation so she can bang some loser then it's a different story.
What do you mean "you're not buying it"? Her son's like a kindergardener and his teenage brother was just slain two months ago. It was clearly the reason she dropped from 41.
Do you really see her taking off in April/May/June for a few months to film a tv show while her five/six year old son is in that vulnerable of a state?
Her son probably doesn't comprehend it. It wasn't a live in brother he saw often. She didn't do 41 because it just happened. If she has someone to properly care for him I don't see why she couldn't leave and film this summer...if this unconfirmed show is even filming then.
Her son probably doesn't comprehend it. It wasn't a live in brother he saw often. She didn't do 41 because it just happened. If she has someone to properly care for him I don't see why she couldn't leave and film this summer...if this unconfirmed show is even filming then.
I think there's a chance she could show up, I just think it's very, very small.
I'm genuinely curious, why do you think it wouldn't film right after 41 like 40 and AS5 did? AS5 has decently good ratings, it seems like MTV has committed to an August to April Challenge block.
That is how Survivor has saved money for the past 10 years, filming two seasons back to back in the same location, reusing the same assets/props...
Amanda is from ATYO and is too new, keep her off All Stars. I'll always take her on the main show though (even though I'm not a fan).
Amanda filmed her first season 10 years ago. Idk how anyone can say she doesn't belong on All Stars.
There's not going to be a massive influx of oldheads on these shows. Not everyone wants to be doing these shows at 45+. Hell, a lot of the actual OG's (Alton, Teck, Jisela) have been turned off by production and will probably never return. And you have others that are in great physical shape (Kefla, Darrell, Derrick) whose bodies are simply not holding up anymore. And the casual fans hate it when there's too many carnival games.
You are gonna have to get younger to film a watchable show...
Someone who thinks Amanda belongs on All Stars shouldn't be in charge of this thread. Go make a fantasy 42 thread instead.
That's you saying "I don't want to see Amanda on The Challenge again until late 2026/early 2027". Which means she would've filmed six episodes of The Challenge (USA2/40) in five+ years.
This show needs a trashy cheating scandal. Cast Kailah and paulie together without their so's.
perfectly stated
Justice for Genesis, Tara, and Dan - put them on AS6!!!!
The difference between Veronica and Aneesa is that Veronica doesn't cry that she always flops and no one wants to be her partner. Veronica knows her size and doesn't care, she uses her political game. Aneesa kept crying about flopping but kept coming back bigger and playing victim cause people didn't want to be her partner.
My main issue with Sam (putting her being out of shape aside) is she's not a big enough personality or force on the show to make a team of 7 or 8 women champs. Veronica is.
Like if I'm doing an All Stars Champions team, am I giving Sam a spot over Laurel? Veronica? Katie? Sarah? Susie? Julie? Jodi? Absolutely not. That's an iconic team and you could also put some facebook casual fan favs like Emily.
IF WE GET KAILAH AND AMANDA ON A SEASON TOGETHER AGAIN......
I really, really don't think Amanda will be back any time soon with her son's family tragedy. Her son's age is way too vulnerable.
Who else wants this shit to be cancelled?
Not me! I love All-Stars (minus season 4)! I just hope we go back to more OGs!
We won't, that's the issue. If it was the main show, I'd at least be happy we were getting more. But this? It should be cancelled eventually anyway since there can't just be two shows, and it was made for a specific purpose that has now been basically completely abandoned, so it's about damn time to cancel this shit.
Even if we get ICONIC random OG returns like Flora's, they're just gonna be edited out for the same scenes of Laurel and Nicole loving each other 10x and Kam and Leroy talking about breastfeeding 10x.
I hate what it's become but if it means I keep getting Katie, Tina and some surprises like hopefully Marie and Irulan I say keep it coming. Hopefully Skye sees that the OGs provide while the BB/UKers FLOP.
I'm not buying that at all. Not sure how tha makes her son "more vulnerable" I don't think that should or would play into Amanda's decision. We all know I can't stand Amanda but there's zero reason she can't return. By all accounts, her son is in very safe hands while mom earns money. Now if she follows that up with a vacation so she can bang some loser then it's a different story.
the OGs really do bring it, we need production to put some respect on their names
I want a Real World vs Road Rules before this is canceled. Here is my realistic cast that I think would be successful with OG and Casual fans.
Real World
Road Rules
Yes bring Jeremy!
I really don't get how we haven't gotten a real world vs road rules - especially early on - an iconic call back is beyond fitting. And OG's constantly provide - from first boots gone wayyyyy too soon like Cynthia to champs like Rachel and everyone in between
Not making Season 1 RW/RR was such a stupid **** up.
Who are the alts?
Not sure Irulan Marie or Teck are realistic but I'm all for this cast. If we're being realistic though Derrick K replaces Jeremy and Chavez replaces Marlon. I don't know if Toya and Angel are realistic but I like them so I ignored that
I'd love to see Preston return!
I don't think in the Year of our Lord 2025 are they ever dedicating a team to a show that's been cancelled for the past 6 years...LET ALONE a show that's been cancelled for 18...
What do you mean "you're not buying it"? Her son's like a kindergardener and his teenage brother was just slain two months ago. It was clearly the reason she dropped from 41.
Do you really see her taking off in April/May/June for a few months to film a tv show while her five/six year old son is in that vulnerable of a state?
Her son probably doesn't comprehend it. It wasn't a live in brother he saw often. She didn't do 41 because it just happened. If she has someone to properly care for him I don't see why she couldn't leave and film this summer...if this unconfirmed show is even filming then.
I think there's a chance she could show up, I just think it's very, very small.
I'm genuinely curious, why do you think it wouldn't film right after 41 like 40 and AS5 did? AS5 has decently good ratings, it seems like MTV has committed to an August to April Challenge block.
That is how Survivor has saved money for the past 10 years, filming two seasons back to back in the same location, reusing the same assets/props...
Amanda is from ATYO and is too new, keep her off All Stars. I'll always take her on the main show though (even though I'm not a fan).
Amanda filmed her first season 10 years ago. Idk how anyone can say she doesn't belong on All Stars.
There's not going to be a massive influx of oldheads on these shows. Not everyone wants to be doing these shows at 45+. Hell, a lot of the actual OG's (Alton, Teck, Jisela) have been turned off by production and will probably never return. And you have others that are in great physical shape (Kefla, Darrell, Derrick) whose bodies are simply not holding up anymore. And the casual fans hate it when there's too many carnival games.
You are gonna have to get younger to film a watchable show...
Someone who thinks Amanda belongs on All Stars shouldn't be in charge of this thread. Go make a fantasy 42 thread instead.
That's you saying "I don't want to see Amanda on The Challenge again until late 2026/early 2027". Which means she would've filmed six episodes of The Challenge (USA2/40) in five+ years.
I hope you realize that..
Ok? RWRR only. 35+ only.
Stupid, arbirtary rules. Cast for entertainment. Anyone that debuted 5+ years ago is enough...
Then there is no point for All Stars just do 2 flagship seasons a year.
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