The Challenge: Battle of the Bloodlines Discussion (SPOILERS)

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As I promised someone via PM, I talked to Tori in NYC and let her know that some were reading a lot into her NY tweet and would she like me to enlighten all of you or allow you to suffer, not knowing.  (I've known her view since @ 2009)  Her reply:

"...enlighten them.  "I am NEVER doing another challenge."

 

So, is there a lesson to be learned here?  Yes, evidence is neither a wish, a dream, nor even a fear.  Evidence is the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.  Standing alone, a tweet that someone has traveled to city X is not evidence.    

Do you know if Brad is ever willing to do another one?

not trying to be rude but no one read into Tori's tweet that much to be on a cast, the peron who first posted it even said it may be nothing. and thank gawd i hate her almost as much as brad.

NOBODY did this...I don't get why it was so important to "confirm" she won't be doing anymore when nobody expected nor wanted her to come back.

I don't see why it's so important to call that out though. Y'all ***** when you don't get information and ***** when you do. V1, PinkRose, Lurker, and a few others are the only ones providing accurate information in this thread (V1Man's especially). He did what this thread is for, to eliminate possibilities based on evidence and find information to support someone being on the next challenge. So I'm very confused on what the big deal was of him posting what Tori said. And if we want to talk about the way he comes off it's a whole lot better than the 12-16 year olds acting like a BGC reject and cussing every other word. That is all Smile

The reason people called him out wasn't because of providing information. It was the fact that he was catching attitude and being condecending about it. When Pinkrose first posted Tori's tweet she said it MAY NOT MEAN ANYTHING! Nobody here was cared if she was going to be on the challenge in the first place so why did he feel to be so rude about it acting like everyone was jumping the gun and trying to confirms she was on the **** challenge? He could've just posted what she said and be done with it. Don't be a rude *** about it when it was just an innocent observation(is that the right word?) that didn't mean anything in the long run.

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As I promised someone via PM, I talked to Tori in NYC and let her know that some were reading a lot into her NY tweet and would she like me to enlighten all of you or allow you to suffer, not knowing.  (I've known her view since @ 2009)  Her reply:

"...enlighten them.  "I am NEVER doing another challenge."

 

So, is there a lesson to be learned here?  Yes, evidence is neither a wish, a dream, nor even a fear.  Evidence is the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.  Standing alone, a tweet that someone has traveled to city X is not evidence.    

Do you know if Brad is ever willing to do another one?

not trying to be rude but no one read into Tori's tweet that much to be on a cast, the peron who first posted it even said it may be nothing. and thank gawd i hate her almost as much as brad.

NOBODY did this...I don't get why it was so important to "confirm" she won't be doing anymore when nobody expected nor wanted her to come back.

I don't see why it's so important to call that out though. Y'all ***** when you don't get information and ***** when you do. V1, PinkRose, Lurker, and a few others are the only ones providing accurate information in this thread (V1Man's especially). He did what this thread is for, to eliminate possibilities based on evidence and find information to support someone being on the next challenge. So I'm very confused on what the big deal was of him posting what Tori said. And if we want to talk about the way he comes off it's a whole lot better than the 12-16 year olds acting like a BGC reject and cussing every other word. That is all Smile

The reason people called him out wasn't because of providing information. It was the fact that he was catching attitude and being condecending about it. When Pinkrose first posted Tori's tweet she said it MAY NOT MEAN ANYTHING! Nobody here was cared if she was going to be on the challenge in the first place so why did he feel to be so rude about it acting like everyone was jumping the gun and trying to confirms she was on the **** challenge? He could've just posted what she said and be done with it. Don't be a rude *** about it when it was just an innocent observation(is that the right word?) that didn't mean anything in the long run.

But it's not like he's the only one in this thread being rude... I didn't view his post as rude or condescending. You of all people should know how V1 speaks since we have been on this site forever lol. I think it's innocent on his part. 

That moment when Tori is verbally anNIAhilated yet everyone keeps acting like someone here was bullied when it never happened.

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As I promised someone via PM, I talked to Tori in NYC and let her know that some were reading a lot into her NY tweet and would she like me to enlighten all of you or allow you to suffer, not knowing.  (I've known her view since @ 2009)  Her reply:

"...enlighten them.  "I am NEVER doing another challenge."

 

So, is there a lesson to be learned here?  Yes, evidence is neither a wish, a dream, nor even a fear.  Evidence is the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.  Standing alone, a tweet that someone has traveled to city X is not evidence.    

Do you know if Brad is ever willing to do another one?

not trying to be rude but no one read into Tori's tweet that much to be on a cast, the peron who first posted it even said it may be nothing. and thank gawd i hate her almost as much as brad.

NOBODY did this...I don't get why it was so important to "confirm" she won't be doing anymore when nobody expected nor wanted her to come back.

I don't see why it's so important to call that out though. Y'all ***** when you don't get information and ***** when you do. V1, PinkRose, Lurker, and a few others are the only ones providing accurate information in this thread (V1Man's especially). He did what this thread is for, to eliminate possibilities based on evidence and find information to support someone being on the next challenge. So I'm very confused on what the big deal was of him posting what Tori said. And if we want to talk about the way he comes off it's a whole lot better than the 12-16 year olds acting like a BGC reject and cussing every other word. That is all Smile

The reason people called him out wasn't because of providing information. It was the fact that he was catching attitude and being condecending about it. When Pinkrose first posted Tori's tweet she said it MAY NOT MEAN ANYTHING! Nobody here was cared if she was going to be on the challenge in the first place so why did he feel to be so rude about it acting like everyone was jumping the gun and trying to confirms she was on the **** challenge? He could've just posted what she said and be done with it. Don't be a rude *** about it when it was just an innocent observation(is that the right word?) that didn't mean anything in the long run.

But it's not like he's the only one in this thread being rude... I didn't view his post as rude or condescending. You of all people should know how V1 speaks since we have been on this site forever lol. I think it's innocent on his part. 

But he was the only one that was rude IN THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION and you're right I do know how he speaks and you know what? sometimes he can be cool and sometimes he can be rude as ****. I don't like it when he's rude and condecending for no reason.

But I didn't see it as innocent but whatever I'm going to let this go. This doesn't need to turn into a "thing" here. The catfish thing is bad enough.

Anyone got any new info yet?

I may be alone but I wouldn't mind them getting a new host besides Tj Lavin. The way he talks sounds like he'd rather be somewhere then at the challenge.

It seems as if there is a pattern on this forum where if there is even the slightest hint or possible suggestion of someone participating in a upcoming challenge, folks on here take it as a evidence based fact and use it as a license to start unnecessarily  bash someone when no concrete evidence exists, I guess v1man was trying to be accurate and prevent that from happening.

I may be alone but I wouldn't mind them getting a new host besides Tj Lavin. The way he talks sounds like he'd rather be somewhere then at the challenge.

I agree and he gives his two cents when it isn't needed either. I would love it if they got a new host but at this point that's probably not happening.

I'd want Zuri Hall to host The Challenge seasons. She's already one of my all time favorite Reunion hosts that we've had on these shows. She's eye candy and I think she'd be a fun host like Craig J. Jackson was on I Love Money. I feel like TJ only shows personality during the trivia challenges. 

I'd want Zuri Hall to host The Challenge seasons. She's already one of my all time favorite Reunion hosts that we've had on these shows. She's eye candy and I think she'd be a fun host like Craig J. Jackson was on I Love Money. I feel like TJ only shows personality during the trivia challenges. 

He doesn't even show personality there either. He's just so lifeless all around. Which is odd considering he had personality and had a pulse when he was on Rediculousness.

I'd want Zuri Hall to host The Challenge seasons. She's already one of my all time favorite Reunion hosts that we've had on these shows. She's eye candy and I think she'd be a fun host like Craig J. Jackson on I Love Money. 


Zuri wouldn't fit the testosterone driven format these challenges currently present themselves with on-site the day of a challenge.

I'd want Zuri Hall to host The Challenge seasons. She's already one of my all time favorite Reunion hosts that we've had on these shows. She's eye candy and I think she'd be a fun host like Craig J. Jackson was on I Love Money. I feel like TJ only shows personality during the trivia challenges. 

i liked zuri hall too but id be ecstatic if craig jackson hosted the challenges from now on.  i wouldnt mind seeing former castmembers hosting like mark or coral.  

I think Mark would be a good host because he's pretty well liked by most of the alumni. If not Mark I recommend Tami Roman. She's part of The Real World family and would make a entertaining host.

*yawn* 

And since when did you become the "voice of reasoning"? Because there have been several incidents of you acting like a BGC reject. 

Since none of that was directed at you.... 

Your only mistake was acknowledging it.

As I promised someone via PM, I talked to Tori in NYC and let her know that some were reading a lot into her NY tweet and would she like me to enlighten all of you or allow you to suffer, not knowing.  (I've known her view since @ 2009)  Her reply:

"...enlighten them.  "I am NEVER doing another challenge."

 

So, is there a lesson to be learned here?  Yes, evidence is neither a wish, a dream, nor even a fear.  Evidence is the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.  Standing alone, a tweet that someone has traveled to city X is not evidence.    

Do you know if Brad is ever willing to do another one?

not trying to be rude but no one read into Tori's tweet that much to be on a cast, the peron who first posted it even said it may be nothing. and thank gawd i hate her almost as much as brad.

NOBODY did this...I don't get why it was so important to "confirm" she won't be doing anymore when nobody expected nor wanted her to come back.

I don't see why it's so important to call that out though. Y'all ***** when you don't get information and ***** when you do. V1, PinkRose, Lurker, and a few others are the only ones providing accurate information in this thread (V1Man's especially). He did what this thread is for, to eliminate possibilities based on evidence and find information to support someone being on the next challenge. So I'm very confused on what the big deal was of him posting what Tori said. And if we want to talk about the way he comes off it's a whole lot better than the 12-16 year olds acting like a BGC reject and cussing every other word. That is all Smile

The reason people called him out wasn't because of providing information. It was the fact that he was catching attitude and being condecending about it. When Pinkrose first posted Tori's tweet she said it MAY NOT MEAN ANYTHING! Nobody here was cared if she was going to be on the challenge in the first place so why did he feel to be so rude about it acting like everyone was jumping the gun and trying to confirms she was on the **** challenge? He could've just posted what she said and be done with it. Don't be a rude *** about it when it was just an innocent observation(is that the right word?) that didn't mean anything in the long run.

But it's not like he's the only one in this thread being rude... I didn't view his post as rude or condescending. You of all people should know how V1 speaks since we have been on this site forever lol. I think it's innocent on his part. 

But he was the only one that was rude IN THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION and you're right I do know how he speaks and you know what? sometimes he can be cool and sometimes he can be rude as ****. I don't like it when he's rude and condecending for no reason.

But I didn't see it as innocent but whatever I'm going to let this go. This doesn't need to turn into a "thing" here. The catfish thing is bad enough.

Anyone got any new info yet?

In the GREAT WORDS of Elsa- "Honey Let it go Let it go".

Zuri is just fine hosting the reunion and aftershows. She wouldn't fit as hosting the challenge.

I think either Mark or someone or someone else.

Mark would be great but at this point he can't even get on a Challenge, so bringing him as a host is absurd. And keep in mind that they're trying to save the show not kill it softly with a machete

Zuri is just fine hosting the reunion and aftershows. She wouldn't fit as hosting the challenge. I think either Mark or someone or someone else.

Mark would obv rather compete though. 

*yawn* 

And since when did you become the "voice of reasoning"? Because there have been several incidents of you acting like a BGC reject. 

Since none of that was directed at you.... 

Your only mistake was acknowledging it.

How so?

basically camila's idea. I hope the jury is bitter.

I'd want Zuri Hall to host The Challenge seasons. She's already one of my all time favorite Reunion hosts that we've had on these shows. She's eye candy and I think she'd be a fun host like Craig J. Jackson was on I Love Money. I feel like TJ only shows personality during the trivia challenges. 

i liked zuri hall too but id be ecstatic if craig jackson hosted the challenges from now on.  i wouldnt mind seeing former castmembers hosting like mark or coral.  



No way! TJ forever!

That moment when Tori is verbally anNIAhilated yet everyone keeps acting like someone here was bullied when it never happened.

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Zuri is just fine hosting the reunion and aftershows. She wouldn't fit as hosting the challenge. I think either Mark or someone or someone else.

Mark would obv rather compete though. 

Well he's not getting back on the show anyways so the next best thing is him him hosting.

Plus he's retired anyhow.

Everyone needs to remember that V1Man and Tori are both members here so attacking them and the unnecessary comments are reasons to be banned (well at least it use to be).. Take the Catfish and any other conversation that doesn't pertain to the SUMMER SPECULATION out of this **** thread. It's not that hard to stay on topic guys, if you have any doubt that what you are about to post may be off topic then don't post it in here! It's not that hard to create a new thread for the stupid shit that is talked about in this thread. And please be respectful to other members, this isn't Bourgy. 

Smh you & V1Man are literally the ONLY people taking this seriously. NOBODY other than badladjj "attacked" him (if you even want to call it that), everybody else was laughing at badlad's post, which had more to do with Tori than V1Man.

As for Tori being a member here, when was the last time she posted or probably even thought about this site? Nobody talks about Tori & nobody cares. This whole thing was blown wayyyy out of proportion because nobody was expecting Tori to be on the show in the first place.

I would love it if Zuri Hall became the new host. I still wonder how TJ became the permanent host & not Jonny Moseley....

I would love it if Zuri Hall became the new host. I still wonder how TJ became the permanent host & not Jonny Moseley....

Watch Moseley host an aftershow. All will be clear. 

Disagree w/your statements.  Many others who no longer post but still read the spoiler and speculation threads respect V1Man and take umbrage at the rude behavior many posters in this thread have exhibited.  I think we all appreciate folks who can confirm/deny participation by any Challenge vet or newbie.  

There's a lot of heckling that goes on now since the rules have relaxed that at times does border on bullying.  Although this site was very strict in the past, the discussions that took place were not as profane or as personal as they are now.  It's not just this thread.  It's the entire Challenge board since many of the former moderators have left this show's forum.  

Everyone needs to remember that V1Man and Tori are both members here so attacking them and the unnecessary comments are reasons to be banned (well at least it use to be).. Take the Catfish and any other conversation that doesn't pertain to the SUMMER SPECULATION out of this **** thread. It's not that hard to stay on topic guys, if you have any doubt that what you are about to post may be off topic then don't post it in here! It's not that hard to create a new thread for the stupid shit that is talked about in this thread. And please be respectful to other members, this isn't Bourgy. 

Smh you & V1Man are literally the ONLY people taking this seriously. NOBODY other than badladjj "attacked" him (if you even want to call it that), everybody else was laughing at badlad's post, which had more to do with Tori than V1Man.

As for Tori being a member here, when was the last time she posted or probably even thought about this site? Nobody talks about Tori & nobody cares. This whole thing was blown wayyyy out of proportion because nobody was expecting Tori to be on the show in the first place.

Wes , Cohutta , Isaac , Adam R. , Dustin , Frank , Robb , Reilly , Marlon , I hope these guys were at least called and I pray that Cooke , Marie and Naomi

return. I call it now Jenna is the
new Sarah in terms of casting
that goody goody role. I really hope Jonna and Jemmye return
even though they most likely
won't but atleast it seems there going for Averey , Cory , Nany and Nia on this and So I hope it's opposite teams or Vet/Bloodline Vs Rookie/Bloodline.

Inb4 the people with spoilers decide to withhold what they know about the next challenge from this thread......oh wait

67 new posts, nothing new but useless drama and we need a new host, common guys try and keep it on topic, I love thisforum but lately its been a shit show

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