The idea is unoriginal, but I think it could work very well if handled correctly. However... my excitement has dropped considering there's a been a recent push for a few washed up names that have no business returning next season...
I acn think of many that I HOPE you are not talking about! Some people REALLY need to take a break!!!
The idea is unoriginal, but I think it could work very well if handled correctly. However... my excitement has dropped considering there's a been a recent push for a few washed up names that have no business returning next season...
The idea is unoriginal, but I think it could work very well if handled correctly. However... my excitement has dropped considering there's a been a recent push for a few washed up names that have no business returning next season...
Y'all ruining me right now.
Well, it's a push, right? It might not actually happen?
The truth is Rivals or Exes or any other theme isn't really going to attract viewers. The people that watch are primarily people that want to see what people the saw on The Real World are up to now and people that have been watching these for years (people that actually remember Road Rules)...a 12-16 year old isn't going to turn in and get hooked when they don't know who these people are. This isn't a show like The Real World in which you get a ton of time to know people. The entire point is you already know them--some of them too well at this point
I don't know what MTV is doing but, if the rumors are true, they're going to kill this show next season IMO
Rivals 1, Exes 1, Rivals 2 brought viewers especially if you compare them to the previous seasons...Exes 2 didn't, but maybe it was the fact that it aired one hour later that killed the season.
I don't agree with that at all. The cast of Rivals brought viewers and CT/Diem brought viewers. I don't recall Rivals 2 having good ratings--maybe I'm wrong
Rivals 2 was always 1.3 - 1.8 Mark. So yeah it did good compared to the Island, Fresh Meat 2, Cut throat, Seasons 2, Free agents and Exes 2 that would have done better if MTV was doing better.
The truth is Rivals or Exes or any other theme isn't really going to attract viewers. The people that watch are primarily people that want to see what people the saw on The Real World are up to now and people that have been watching these for years (people that actually remember Road Rules)...a 12-16 year old isn't going to turn in and get hooked when they don't know who these people are. This isn't a show like The Real World in which you get a ton of time to know people. The entire point is you already know them--some of them too well at this point
I don't know what MTV is doing but, if the rumors are true, they're going to kill this show next season IMO
Rivals 1, Exes 1, Rivals 2 brought viewers especially if you compare them to the previous seasons...Exes 2 didn't, but maybe it was the fact that it aired one hour later that killed the season.
I don't agree with that at all. The cast of Rivals brought viewers and CT/Diem brought viewers. I don't recall Rivals 2 having good ratings--maybe I'm wrong
Rivals 2 was always 1.3 - 1.8 Mark. So yeah it did good compared to the Island, Fresh Meat 2, Cut throat, Seasons 2, Free agents and Exes 2 that would have done better if MTV was doing better.
So, other than Cutthroat it did better than the worst seasons they've created...not really a selling point in my mind but I get what you're saying
The idea is unoriginal, but I think it could work very well if handled correctly.
However... my excitement has dropped considering there's a been a recent push for a few washed up names that have no business returning next season...
They need some "washed up" names, since there is a high chance of atleast half of the people being rookies to the challenges. Assuming they stick with that idea, 90%-100% of the cast being new or irrelevant to some viewers would hurt ratings.
The truth is Rivals or Exes or any other theme isn't really going to attract viewers. The people that watch are primarily people that want to see what people the saw on The Real World are up to now and people that have been watching these for years (people that actually remember Road Rules)...a 12-16 year old isn't going to turn in and get hooked when they don't know who these people are. This isn't a show like The Real World in which you get a ton of time to know people. The entire point is you already know them--some of them too well at this point
I don't know what MTV is doing but, if the rumors are true, they're going to kill this show next season IMO
Rivals 1, Exes 1, Rivals 2 brought viewers especially if you compare them to the previous seasons...Exes 2 didn't, but maybe it was the fact that it aired one hour later that killed the season.
I don't agree with that at all. The cast of Rivals brought viewers and CT/Diem brought viewers. I don't recall Rivals 2 having good ratings--maybe I'm wrong
Rivals 2 was always 1.3 - 1.8 Mark. So yeah it did good compared to the Island, Fresh Meat 2, Cut throat, Seasons 2, Free agents and Exes 2 that would have done better if MTV was doing better.
So, other than Cutthroat it did better than the worst seasons they've created...not really a selling point in my mind but I get what you're saying
It technically have done better than every season of the challenge that have aired since 2008. It also did better than the a couple of episodes of the Gauntlet 3 and some episodes of the Duel 2/Ruins. If they would have come out with rivals and exes format on the golden years of this shows when it was still fresh, the ratings would be the best of the franchise.
Theme do sell, even if you dont like to admit it superfans and people on this site are a small percentage of the actual viewers of the challenge. Thats why they need to come out with idea and gimmick formats to attract new viewers. They need to take risk to attract them, the super fans would watch no matter what.
Cast is far more important than theme--not even close
I agree to an extent. We're looking at how a cast looks on paper not knowing how the drama/competition will unfold but I agree we need crazies. I'd love for all the crazy fit people to stay home though. It sucks going into seasons like Rivals 2 and Free Agents knowing that Preston/Knight, Ana/Jess, Jasmine, Emilee will never win. It was obvious that Paula/Em and either Johnny/Frank or CT/Wes were gonna win. Same for Free Agents. We need an equal cast. Sorry for the rambling lol.
Shittttttt how did I miss this. Where is the spoiler thread?! I gotszda know!
Once 2nd calls/final calls start going out, thats when whoever is in charge of doing the spoiler/cast speculation thread is going to do it.
Its still to early a lot of cast member get the 1st calls and never hear from production again, until the next availabilities calls for the next challenge lol
I've just passed on the "Challengers vs. Superfans" concept to one of the casting people. Frankly, it's far better than some formats from the past.
If there is a reply, I'll post it.
Ever get that reply V1man?
No, I guess I really wasn't expecting one, but I think it is an interesting idea. I also tried to get a nibble on current challenge casting, but that was ignored, too.
I acn think of many that I HOPE you are not talking about! Some people REALLY need to take a break!!!
Oh god..I hope they don't get on.
Y'all ruining me right now.
Well, it's a push, right? It might not actually happen?
I mean, everyone would react differently to the people the want per usual.
Rivals 2 was always 1.3 - 1.8 Mark. So yeah it did good compared to the Island, Fresh Meat 2, Cut throat, Seasons 2, Free agents and Exes 2 that would have done better if MTV was doing better.
So, other than Cutthroat it did better than the worst seasons they've created...not really a selling point in my mind but I get what you're saying
They need some "washed up" names, since there is a high chance of atleast half of the people being rookies to the challenges. Assuming they stick with that idea, 90%-100% of the cast being new or irrelevant to some viewers would hurt ratings.
It technically have done better than every season of the challenge that have aired since 2008. It also did better than the a couple of episodes of the Gauntlet 3 and some episodes of the Duel 2/Ruins. If they would have come out with rivals and exes format on the golden years of this shows when it was still fresh, the ratings would be the best of the franchise.
Theme do sell, even if you dont like to admit it superfans and people on this site are a small percentage of the actual viewers of the challenge. Thats why they need to come out with idea and gimmick formats to attract new viewers. They need to take risk to attract them, the super fans would watch no matter what.
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Lurker, why are you giving out the names?
Cast is far more important than theme--not even close
**** I missed the names lol
They were soooooooooo difficult to guess.
Shittttttt how did I miss this. Where is the spoiler thread?! I gotszda know!
There's no spoiler thread yet--it is way too early in the process for that--haha
I am a little confused as to what just happened lol
I agree to an extent. We're looking at how a cast looks on paper not knowing how the drama/competition will unfold but I agree we need crazies. I'd love for all the crazy fit people to stay home though. It sucks going into seasons like Rivals 2 and Free Agents knowing that Preston/Knight, Ana/Jess, Jasmine, Emilee will never win. It was obvious that Paula/Em and either Johnny/Frank or CT/Wes were gonna win. Same for Free Agents. We need an equal cast. Sorry for the rambling lol.
Once 2nd calls/final calls start going out, thats when whoever is in charge of doing the spoiler/cast speculation thread is going to do it.
Its still to early a lot of cast member get the 1st calls and never hear from production again, until the next availabilities calls for the next challenge lol
saddddddd
Wait calls have started to go out?!
I'm confused
Yes apparently the first round of calls have.
I wonder if any AYTO people got calls....
I got lucky and didn't miss them. Though I'm not surprised who it was.
I'm really not sure...I think I was getting the no vibe but again what do I know? I haven't read every single post either..
As Of friday to my understanding no.
Praise Jesus.
Good. lol those are the main people I don't want to see.
No, I guess I really wasn't expecting one, but I think it is an interesting idea. I also tried to get a nibble on current challenge casting, but that was ignored, too.
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