Yeah I think Frank is one of the top dogs on the Challenge. I think he's on par with Johnny Bananas, if not better. Even though we really haven't seen much out of Frank. I think he's just that good.
Didn't Marlons swimming lost them spot in finale 2? Sometimes I think peoples hate blinds them. Same with Frank, some people actually think he 'is not good' jfc.
And Dustin did good at BOTS. Final mission he was faster than Frank and Sarah who both are good swimmers. Also I do not think BOTS had bad cast. Frank, Zach, Sarah, Wes, Cara Maria, Camilla, Dustin, Jonna, Marie, CJ, Nany, Alton, Trey are all good. How this is a weak cast?
Cara was pretty bad until FA and imo there is a problem when people like Ashley and Sarah are the best females of the season, same with CJ.
How are Dustin and Jordan awful? Dustin did well in his first two seasons, went home early on FA but was sent out by Frank, and would have made it farther had Jess not screwed up in their elimination. Jordan did very good on Rivals 2, pretty bad on FA, and has thus far competed decently on Exes 2.
Dustin didn't make it far in Exes because of his own stupidity. The Seasons cast sucks--see the finalists. Dustin wasn't going far this season just like last season.
Jordan wasn't "pretty bad" on Free Agents--he ****** up pretty much every single mission, he was average at best on Rivals and he has the best female partner this year--he just has to keep his mouth shut and not peform like Knight or JJ would. Honestly, the guys haven't done anything yet this year with the exception on the last mission and that was still about which girls transferred the most paint.
You let me know when Dustin or Jordan win their first one on one elimination round
Funny, I seem to remember Jordn swiftly winning a one on one elimination not to long ago.
Yeah I think Frank is one of the top dogs on the Challenge. I think he's on par with Johnny Bananas, if not better. Even though we really haven't seen much out of Frank. I think he's just that good.
Frank Sweeney is a beast..
IMO the best challenge player since Bananas, probably learned from being his teammate aswell. Frank came really well prepared for Seasons if i remember correctly. He knew where the Island was filmed, that alone is not impressive but it leads to the probabillity that he watched alot of older seasons to better prepare for the game. He mended his friendship with Zach. He learned personal information about the other castmember to better manipulate them. His game was on point. I might remember some of this uncorrectly but i think he did a really good job that season in securing his own spot in the final.
Didn't Marlons swimming lost them spot in finale 2? Sometimes I think peoples hate blinds them. Same with Frank, some people actually think he 'is not good' jfc. And Dustin did good at BOTS. Final mission he was faster than Frank and Sarah who both are good swimmers. Also I do not think BOTS had bad cast. Frank, Zach, Sarah, Wes, Cara Maria, Camilla, Dustin, Jonna, Marie, CJ, Nany, Alton, Trey are all good. How this is a weak cast?
Thank You. I don't get why people say that cast is weak. Most of the cast were good competitors. Were there people that were weak? Yeah but that's the case with every season. People act like they were all a bunch of Casey's and Shavouns and it wasn't the case at all.
The female cast was fine--the male cast was awful. Alton was a shell of his former self, Wes went for an appearance check. Dustin & Trey have not proven to be good. Dustin's gone home first or second the past two challenges. When CJ/Frank & Sarah are the best players it is a weak cast. When Devyn, Sam, Trishelle, Dustin, Chet & JD make the final--it is a weak cast. When most people agree that Jonna/Derek win the final if they get there--it is a weak cast. Cara Maria/Camila were ruined by their partners. Honestly, how has Trey proven to be good?
I don't mind that they tried the newer cast--but most of them suck and we've seen that proven since then
I dislike Frank far more than Dustin & Jordan but I can give him credit---you have to earn respect. Dustin & Jordan haven't yet. We'll see just how much Sarah has to carry and babysit Jordan if they go far this season
I hated Frank's tv persona up until Free Agents, did not mind him there, but he is still the best new era player in my mind. He has had some luck but he seems to be really talented in not letting opportunities go to waste.
Yeah I think Frank is one of the top dogs on the Challenge. I think he's on par with Johnny Bananas, if not better. Even though we really haven't seen much out of Frank. I think he's just that good.
Frank Sweeney is a beast..
IMO the best challenge player since Bananas, probably learned from being his teammate aswell. Frank came really well prepared for Seasons if i remember correctly. He knew where the Island was filmed, that alone is not impressive but it leads to the probabillity that he watched alot of older seasons to better prepare for the game. He mended his friendship with Zach. He learned personal information about the other castmember to better manipulate them. His game was on point. I might remember some of this uncorrectly but i think he did a really good job that season in securing his own spot in the final.
Agreed. He is the reason why San Diego won Seasons because he led the team. He made the decisions and not Zach. He knew exactly what he was doing and I give him mad props.
Didn't Marlons swimming lost them spot in finale 2? Sometimes I think peoples hate blinds them. Same with Frank, some people actually think he 'is not good' jfc.
And Dustin did good at BOTS. Final mission he was faster than Frank and Sarah who both are good swimmers. Also I do not think BOTS had bad cast. Frank, Zach, Sarah, Wes, Cara Maria, Camilla, Dustin, Jonna, Marie, CJ, Nany, Alton, Trey are all good. How this is a weak cast?
Cara was pretty bad until FA and imo there is a problem when people like Ashley and Sarah are the best females of the season, same with CJ.
Excuse u, but CJ proved he is good and if he ever comes back, I am more than sure that he is amazing. Dude won over Zach. I do not think there are many people who can do that.
Zach mayve sucks at endurance but there are not many people who can beat him in Hall Bawl. Like he is one big dude.
Also... CJ was almost every mission best male performer.
Didn't Marlons swimming lost them spot in finale 2? Sometimes I think peoples hate blinds them. Same with Frank, some people actually think he 'is not good' jfc. And Dustin did good at BOTS. Final mission he was faster than Frank and Sarah who both are good swimmers. Also I do not think BOTS had bad cast. Frank, Zach, Sarah, Wes, Cara Maria, Camilla, Dustin, Jonna, Marie, CJ, Nany, Alton, Trey are all good. How this is a weak cast?
Thank You. I don't get why people say that cast is weak. Most of the cast were good competitors. Were there people that were weak? Yeah but that's the case with every season. People act like they were all a bunch of Casey's and Shavouns and it wasn't the case at all.
The female cast was fine--the male cast was awful. Alton was a shell of his former self, Wes went for an appearance check. Dustin & Trey have not proven to be good. Dustin's gone home first or second the past two challenges. When CJ/Frank & Sarah are the best players it is a weak cast. When Devyn, Sam, Trishelle, Dustin, Chet & JD make the final--it is a weak cast. When most people agree that Jonna/Derek win the final if they get there--it is a weak cast. Cara Maria/Camila were ruined by their partners. Honestly, how has Trey proven to be good?
I don't mind that they tried the newer cast--but most of them suck and we've seen that proven since then
That's crap. Several of them have proven to be good competitiors. I think you just don't like them.
I dislike Frank far more than Dustin & Jordan but I can give him credit---you have to earn respect. Dustin & Jordan haven't yet. We'll see just how much Sarah has to carry and babysit Jordan if they go far this season
Earn respect? From whom? And how has Jordan not earned it when he has proven to be good? Yeah he needs to be reeled in sometimes but so what? That doesn't mean he sucks as competitor. Same thing with Dustin. He has merit but he just doesn't has people on his side. I don't get how you can give credit to Frank but not Jordan and Dustin when they've pretty much done the same amount of things. (except win Frank has that over both of them).
I dislike Frank far more than Dustin & Jordan but I can give him credit---you have to earn respect. Dustin & Jordan haven't yet. We'll see just how much Sarah has to carry and babysit Jordan if they go far this season
Earn respect? From whom? And how has Jordan not earned it when he has proven to be good? Yeah he needs to be reeled in sometimes but so what? That doesn't mean he sucks as competitor. Same thing with Dustin. He has merit but he just doesn't has people on his side. I don't get how you can give credit to Frank but not Jordan and Dustin when they've pretty much done the same amount of things. (except win Frank has that over both of them).
Frank's done FAR more than both. Did you watch Jordan's performance on Free Agents? Preston was a better
They have to earn respect from everyone--it isn't give. See, I truly think you've never competed in anything in your life because you don't grasp this. To even say Jordan and Dustin have done pretty much the same thing is beyond laughable. Frank was arguably the best guy on 2 of his 3 seasons...who knows how Free Agents plays out if he's not hurt.
What newbies have proven they're good? Not that you like them or they bring entertainment--that they're GOOD. Almost none. Even Zach, one of the better ones, was beyond pathetic in the Free Agent final--he was on par with Devyn....Devyn. Laurel should have thrown him off the mountain.
I don't have to like someone to say they've done well...unlike you. I hate Frank--Frank's been great. As annoying as he is I now hope he comes back. CJ is probably the second best new guy since The Ruins and he unfortunately doesn't want to continue. Leroy's been okay but he needs to learn to swin and he's awful at daily missions. I'm hoping Cory comes on and impresses next season because we need new kids to actually perform. You always want new people to take over...in order for that to happen they have to perform unless BMP hands them a challenge--see Seasons
I dislike Frank far more than Dustin & Jordan but I can give him credit---you have to earn respect. Dustin & Jordan haven't yet. We'll see just how much Sarah has to carry and babysit Jordan if they go far this season
Earn respect? From whom? And how has Jordan not earned it when he has proven to be good? Yeah he needs to be reeled in sometimes but so what? That doesn't mean he sucks as competitor. Same thing with Dustin. He has merit but he just doesn't has people on his side. I don't get how you can give credit to Frank but not Jordan and Dustin when they've pretty much done the same amount of things. (except win Frank has that over both of them).
Frank's done FAR more than both. Did you watch Jordan's performance on Free Agents? Preston was a better
They have to earn respect from everyone--it isn't give. See, I truly think you've never competed in anything in your life because you don't grasp this. To even say Jordan and Dustin have done pretty much the same thing is beyond laughable. Frank was arguably the best guy on 2 of his 3 seasons...who knows how Free Agents plays out if he's not hurt.
What newbies have proven they're good? Not that you like them or they bring entertainment--that they're GOOD. Almost none. Even Zach, one of the better ones, was beyond pathetic in the Free Agent final--he was on par with Devyn....Devyn. Laurel should have thrown him off the mountain.
I don't have to like someone to say they've done well...unlike you. I hate Frank--Frank's been great. As annoying as he is I now hope he comes back. CJ is probably the second best new guy since The Ruins and he unfortunately doesn't want to continue. Leroy's been okay but he needs to learn to swin and he's awful at daily missions. I'm hoping Cory comes on and impresses next season because we need new kids to actually perform. You always want new people to take over...in order for that to happen they have to perform unless BMP hands them a challenge--see Seasons
Frank/CJ/Jordan/Marlon/Trey/Zach(He sucked in The Free Agents Finale but that doesn't negate everthing else he's done)/Johnny(Portland)Chet/Dustin/Cooke/Ashley(San Diego 2)/Nany/Latoya/Emily(DC)(I know she started earlier than everyone from Seasons 2 onward but she's from a recent season just like them so I'm putting her there)Jonna/Marie. Most have proven that they are good and they can win and compete. Almost everyone I listed has won daily challenges and a couple of them have won a challenge altogether. I think you don't give them any credit because they aren't ellite. Yes I do want rookies to take over the game and you know what? all the people I listed can do it. Why? because they all have proven that they can win and are good. I think their only problem is gameplay..They get that in order they can easily run the roost.
And you can have all the respect in the world from everyone but that doesn't mean they won't come after you and won't target you. This is a reality show not sports It's really not about respect at all.
I heard CJ was under a modeling contract which restricts him from going. Otherwise I don't remember hearing that he didn't want to continue.
Yeah. That's why he's done. I think he probably still does challenges if not for the contract. Even though I think he would be like Landon and rarley appear.
Frank/CJ/Jordan/Marlon/Trey/Zach(He sucked in The Free Agents Finale but that doesn't negate everthing else he's done)/Johnny(Portland)Chet/Dustin/Cooke/Ashley(San Diego 2)/Nany/Latoya/Emily(DC)(I know she started earlier than everyone from Seasons 2 onward but she's from a recent season just like them so I'm putting her there)Jonna/Marie. Most have proven that they are good and they can win and compete. Almost everyone I listed has won daily challenges and a couple of them have won a challenge altogether. I think you don't give them any credit because they aren't ellite. Yes I do want rookies to take over the game and you know what? all the people I listed can do it. Why? because they all have proven that they can win and are good. I think their only problem is gameplay..They get that in order they can easily run the roost.
And you can have all the respect in the world from everyone but that doesn't mean they won't come after you and won't target you. This is a reality show not sports It's really not about respect at all.
Frank--yes. CJ-yes. Jordan--no (see FAs). Marlon & Trey--asbolutely not but they have potential. Zach is solid but no where near as good as he should be--he's like a poor man's version of MJ. Johnny Reilly has done nothing other than a solid performance in a final. Chet sucks. Dustin sucks. Cooke is good. Ashley is good. Nany is average--had a nice final. Latoya beat Jemmye--I'm not impressed--she did add entertainment. Emily--yes/beast. Jonna is average--would have been much better in the old school era. Marie has potential but didn't do much. You listed many people that didn't PROVE anything.
If all the people you listed could do Bananas wouldn't win every season--they've been here and have proven they can't stop him. It will take a veteran (Wes or Sarah) to stop him.
If you suck at gameplay you suck at the challenge
Respect is earned by your actiosn...that's the same thing in all aspects of life--not just competition.
I hope Cory comes on Bruno & Jason are also huge and I want to see them. I really want to see Scott, he said he's interested but he can't see them reaching out to him.
For girls they need Nicole to come on she'd break******* in half. Arielle and Ashlee would do great but sadly they aren't interested.
Frank/CJ/Jordan/Marlon/Trey/Zach(He sucked in The Free Agents Finale but that doesn't negate everthing else he's done)/Johnny(Portland)Chet/Dustin/Cooke/Ashley(San Diego 2)/Nany/Latoya/Emily(DC)(I know she started earlier than everyone from Seasons 2 onward but she's from a recent season just like them so I'm putting her there)Jonna/Marie. Most have proven that they are good and they can win and compete. Almost everyone I listed has won daily challenges and a couple of them have won a challenge altogether. I think you don't give them any credit because they aren't ellite. Yes I do want rookies to take over the game and you know what? all the people I listed can do it. Why? because they all have proven that they can win and are good. I think their only problem is gameplay..They get that in order they can easily run the roost.
And you can have all the respect in the world from everyone but that doesn't mean they won't come after you and won't target you. This is a reality show not sports It's really not about respect at all.
Frank--yes. CJ-yes. Jordan--no (see FAs). Marlon & Trey--asbolutely not but they have potential. Zach is solid but no where near as good as he should be--he's like a poor man's version of MJ. Johnny Reilly has done nothing other than a solid performance in a final. Chet sucks. Dustin sucks. Cooke is good. Ashley is good. Nany is average--had a nice final. Latoya beat Jemmye--I'm not impressed--she did add entertainment. Emily--yes/beast. Jonna is average--would have been much better in the old school era. Marie has potential but didn't do much. You listed many people that didn't PROVE anything.
If all the people you listed could do Bananas wouldn't win every season--they've been here and have proven they can't stop him. It will take a veteran (Wes or Sarah) to stop him.
If you suck at gameplay you suck at the challenge
Respect is earned by your actiosn...that's the same thing in all aspects of life--not just competition.
But the others how do u know they are not going to get better? did bananas impress u on his first challenge? second? third? it was maybe until cutthroat (doing good on daily challenges) and rivals (winning the final) that people and fans actually start seeing him as a good competitor, but if u saw the bananas from the duel or gauntlet 3 you would have think he is average at best and now look at him, my point is that for bananas it took time for him to get better, he didn't shine on his very first challenges, he was average at best.
There are only really few that shine on the first challenge and u know they are natural athletes like CT, the miz, Landon or darrell.
I don't like jordan but i think he has potential, same with johnny, trey and marlon, zach and dustin don't, dustin sucks overall and at this point zach only advantage is that he is the biggest guy there.
But the others how do u know they are not going to get better? did bananas impress u on his first challenge? second? third? it was maybe until cutthroat (doing good on daily challenges) and rivals (winning the final) that people and fans actually start seeing him as a good competitor, but if u saw the bananas from the duel or gauntlet 3 you would have think he is average at best and now look at him, my point is that for bananas it took time for him to get better, he didn't shine on his very first challenges, he was average at best.
There are only really few that shine on the first challenge and u know they are natural athletes like CT, the miz, Landon or darrell.
I don't like jordan but i think he has potential, same with johnny, trey and marlon, zach and dustin don't, dustin sucks overall and at this point zach only advantage is that he is the biggest guy there.
Some people just lack athleticism. For example Brooke could do 20 and still be awful. Bananas was pretty good on The Inferno 3 even though I didn't like him. You could see athleticism. It was around the time of Rivals that people started considering him an elite competitor not just a good one.
I never said Jordan, Trey, Reilly or Marlon can't grow into a good competitor. They just aren't there yet. Reilly and Trey have a "size problem" though in this era of the challenge. At his worst--Bananas was never as bad as Jordan in Free Agents. Never. Maybe his ego gets the best of him and he ***** up things he shouldn't but that still falls on him.
Frank/CJ/Jordan/Marlon/Trey/Zach(He sucked in The Free Agents Finale but that doesn't negate everthing else he's done)/Johnny(Portland)Chet/Dustin/Cooke/Ashley(San Diego 2)/Nany/Latoya/Emily(DC)(I know she started earlier than everyone from Seasons 2 onward but she's from a recent season just like them so I'm putting her there)Jonna/Marie. Most have proven that they are good and they can win and compete. Almost everyone I listed has won daily challenges and a couple of them have won a challenge altogether. I think you don't give them any credit because they aren't ellite. Yes I do want rookies to take over the game and you know what? all the people I listed can do it. Why? because they all have proven that they can win and are good. I think their only problem is gameplay..They get that in order they can easily run the roost.
And you can have all the respect in the world from everyone but that doesn't mean they won't come after you and won't target you. This is a reality show not sports It's really not about respect at all.
Frank--yes. CJ-yes. Jordan--no (see FAs). Marlon & Trey--asbolutely not but they have potential. Zach is solid but no where near as good as he should be--he's like a poor man's version of MJ. Johnny Reilly has done nothing other than a solid performance in a final. Chet sucks. Dustin sucks. Cooke is good. Ashley is good. Nany is average--had a nice final. Latoya beat Jemmye--I'm not impressed--she did add entertainment. Emily--yes/beast. Jonna is average--would have been much better in the old school era. Marie has potential but didn't do much. You listed many people that didn't PROVE anything.
If all the people you listed could do Bananas wouldn't win every season--they've been here and have proven they can't stop him. It will take a veteran (Wes or Sarah) to stop him.
If you suck at gameplay you suck at the challenge
Respect is earned by your actiosn...that's the same thing in all aspects of life--not just competition.
Um yes they did. Like I said before they have all proven something at one point..And I think it's funny how you always go back to Jordan's bad preformance on Free Agents yet ignore his good preformance on Rivals 2. And he hasn't done bad on this season so far either. Jordan isn't elite but he isn't bad. One bad preformance doesn't mean he sucks. And everyone I listed has proven something at one point. Whether it be potential or otherwise. I'm not too sure what the hell you want from them.
Oh and by the way...just because your not good at gameplay doesn't mean you're not good period. There's barely any gameplay on this show anyways when you think about it.
And this isn't real life..It's a reality TV show. Respect doesn't exist..especially on this show. I'd think you know that by now.
Dunno Jordan have been performing pretty good this season
The guys haven't done anything yet this season. It was the girls dragging the guys (only CT even tried to help his partner), only the girls mattered with the swimming challenge, last week was about the girls brining paint (not surprising Jonna/Sarah did the best with endurance) and then rounding the bases he did pretty much nothing except fail. So--we've seen he can suck and blow...so he's better than Reilly. Other than that the guys haven't done a damn thing--not just Jordan--every guy on this challenge.
I miss the days where there would be a standout performer that you could look back and be like--wow Roni did great on Rolling on a River or even High Ball where Abram & Laurel dominated pairs of men (Johnny/Derrick & Brad/Dunbar/Tyler)...we simply haven't had any of that. We have guys standing around waiting for an opportunity.
When you say he's been performing pretty good this season you're either just saying it to say it or aren't paying attention. Sarahh's performed well a couple times. Jordan very well may if he gets a chance. I'm really hoping for a guy-centric mission.
He has one hand and performed two last missions better than others(where u btw need both hands) and 2 mission he spin those titties faster than some people with two hands.
I hate people here who are so ******* blind with this hate and deny everything. Like pls. Go away
Rolled my eyes so hard. ^ He has one hand and performed two last missions better than others(where u btw need both hands) and 2 mission he spin those titties faster than some people with two hands. I hate people here who are so ******* blind with this hate and deny everything. Like pls. Go away
We're not grading on a curve. He's never going to grow a second hand. The last two missions proved nothing about that. He held onto something a couple seconds longer than some other people--good for him. This is called reaching and I think you know it. Name the people was able to "spin the titties" faster than. Zach--shocking
Rolled my eyes so hard. ^ He has one hand and performed two last missions better than others(where u btw need both hands) and 2 mission he spin those titties faster than some people with two hands. I hate people here who are so ******* blind with this hate and deny everything. Like pls. Go away
We're not grading on a curve. He's never going to grow a second hand. The last two missions proved nothing about that. He held onto something a couple seconds longer than some other people--good for him. This is called reaching and I think you know it. Name the people was able to "spin the titties" faster than. Zach--shocking
Jordan is a solid competitor, and to say he's less than decent is just silly. But he's also paired with Sarah, who is the strongest woman on this season, so he has a big advantage.
Bananas has more experience and wins, so it's really not debatable.
Obviously but I think the debate was on who was better in Rivals 2 alone. I think Jordan was but overall Bananas is MUCH better than Jordan.
Jordan was lucky he had Marlon as his partner. The guy is a D1 college football player...much stronger than Zach. Jordan so far hasn't proven anything and I don't consider him one of the top dogs. Is he talented? Sure. But I would probably take Leroy or Dustin over him in an elimination.
Hell no he's not stronger than Zach, Marlon hasn't worked out nearly as intense as he used to be. He WAS a D1 player years ago he's no where near the same shape he was in
On Rivals 2, Jordan was saying how Marlon could lift a LOT more than Zach, and was by far the strongest person in the house.
Bananas has more experience and wins, so it's really not debatable.
Obviously but I think the debate was on who was better in Rivals 2 alone. I think Jordan was but overall Bananas is MUCH better than Jordan.
Jordan was lucky he had Marlon as his partner. The guy is a D1 college football player...much stronger than Zach. Jordan so far hasn't proven anything and I don't consider him one of the top dogs. Is he talented? Sure. But I would probably take Leroy or Dustin over him in an elimination.
Hell no he's not stronger than Zach, Marlon hasn't worked out nearly as intense as he used to be. He WAS a D1 player years ago he's no where near the same shape he was in
On Rivals 2, Jordan was saying how Marlon could lift a LOT more than Zach, and was by far the strongest person in the house.
Jordan is bias no way in hell this Marlon is stronger than CT Leroy or Zach. Marlon fresh out of college maybe but not Marlon now.
Dunno Jordan have been performing pretty good this season
The guys haven't done anything yet this season. It was the girls dragging the guys (only CT even tried to help his partner), only the girls mattered with the swimming challenge, last week was about the girls brining paint (not surprising Jonna/Sarah did the best with endurance) and then rounding the bases he did pretty much nothing except fail. So--we've seen he can suck and blow...so he's better than Reilly. Other than that the guys haven't done a damn thing--not just Jordan--every guy on this challenge.
I miss the days where there would be a standout performer that you could look back and be like--wow Roni did great on Rolling on a River or even High Ball where Abram & Laurel dominated pairs of men (Johnny/Derrick & Brad/Dunbar/Tyler)...we simply haven't had any of that. We have guys standing around waiting for an opportunity.
When you say he's been performing pretty good this season you're either just saying it to say it or aren't paying attention. Sarahh's performed well a couple times. Jordan very well may if he gets a chance. I'm really hoping for a guy-centric mission.
i would say the last mission was also about technique from both the girls and guys as well which is why everybody in the first round did **** poor while second round all did reasonably well after observation. wes also kept falling off the punching bag.
Frank Sweeney is a beast..
Cara was pretty bad until FA and imo there is a problem when people like Ashley and Sarah are the best females of the season, same with CJ.
My bad--against someone with a pulse
IMO the best challenge player since Bananas, probably learned from being his teammate aswell. Frank came really well prepared for Seasons if i remember correctly. He knew where the Island was filmed, that alone is not impressive but it leads to the probabillity that he watched alot of older seasons to better prepare for the game. He mended his friendship with Zach. He learned personal information about the other castmember to better manipulate them. His game was on point. I might remember some of this uncorrectly but i think he did a really good job that season in securing his own spot in the final.
The female cast was fine--the male cast was awful. Alton was a shell of his former self, Wes went for an appearance check. Dustin & Trey have not proven to be good. Dustin's gone home first or second the past two challenges. When CJ/Frank & Sarah are the best players it is a weak cast. When Devyn, Sam, Trishelle, Dustin, Chet & JD make the final--it is a weak cast. When most people agree that Jonna/Derek win the final if they get there--it is a weak cast. Cara Maria/Camila were ruined by their partners. Honestly, how has Trey proven to be good?
I don't mind that they tried the newer cast--but most of them suck and we've seen that proven since then
I dislike Frank far more than Dustin & Jordan but I can give him credit---you have to earn respect. Dustin & Jordan haven't yet. We'll see just how much Sarah has to carry and babysit Jordan if they go far this season
I hated Frank's tv persona up until Free Agents, did not mind him there, but he is still the best new era player in my mind. He has had some luck but he seems to be really talented in not letting opportunities go to waste.
Agreed. He is the reason why San Diego won Seasons because he led the team. He made the decisions and not Zach. He knew exactly what he was doing and I give him mad props.
Lol but swift gets things "poppin" he's such a beast
Excuse u, but CJ proved he is good and if he ever comes back, I am more than sure that he is amazing. Dude won over Zach. I do not think there are many people who can do that.
Zach mayve sucks at endurance but there are not many people who can beat him in Hall Bawl. Like he is one big dude.
Also... CJ was almost every mission best male performer.
That's crap. Several of them have proven to be good competitiors. I think you just don't like them.
Earn respect? From whom? And how has Jordan not earned it when he has proven to be good? Yeah he needs to be reeled in sometimes but so what? That doesn't mean he sucks as competitor. Same thing with Dustin. He has merit but he just doesn't has people on his side. I don't get how you can give credit to Frank but not Jordan and Dustin when they've pretty much done the same amount of things. (except win Frank has that over both of them).
Frank's done FAR more than both. Did you watch Jordan's performance on Free Agents? Preston was a better
They have to earn respect from everyone--it isn't give. See, I truly think you've never competed in anything in your life because you don't grasp this. To even say Jordan and Dustin have done pretty much the same thing is beyond laughable. Frank was arguably the best guy on 2 of his 3 seasons...who knows how Free Agents plays out if he's not hurt.
What newbies have proven they're good? Not that you like them or they bring entertainment--that they're GOOD. Almost none. Even Zach, one of the better ones, was beyond pathetic in the Free Agent final--he was on par with Devyn....Devyn. Laurel should have thrown him off the mountain.
I don't have to like someone to say they've done well...unlike you. I hate Frank--Frank's been great. As annoying as he is I now hope he comes back. CJ is probably the second best new guy since The Ruins and he unfortunately doesn't want to continue. Leroy's been okay but he needs to learn to swin and he's awful at daily missions. I'm hoping Cory comes on and impresses next season because we need new kids to actually perform. You always want new people to take over...in order for that to happen they have to perform unless BMP hands them a challenge--see Seasons
Frank/CJ/Jordan/Marlon/Trey/Zach(He sucked in The Free Agents Finale but that doesn't negate everthing else he's done)/Johnny(Portland)Chet/Dustin/Cooke/Ashley(San Diego 2)/Nany/Latoya/Emily(DC)(I know she started earlier than everyone from Seasons 2 onward but she's from a recent season just like them so I'm putting her there)Jonna/Marie. Most have proven that they are good and they can win and compete. Almost everyone I listed has won daily challenges and a couple of them have won a challenge altogether. I think you don't give them any credit because they aren't ellite. Yes I do want rookies to take over the game and you know what? all the people I listed can do it. Why? because they all have proven that they can win and are good. I think their only problem is gameplay..They get that in order they can easily run the roost.
And you can have all the respect in the world from everyone but that doesn't mean they won't come after you and won't target you. This is a reality show not sports It's really not about respect at all.
I heard CJ was under a modeling contract which restricts him from going. Otherwise I don't remember hearing that he didn't want to continue.
Yeah. That's why he's done. I think he probably still does challenges if not for the contract. Even though I think he would be like Landon and rarley appear.
Frank--yes. CJ-yes. Jordan--no (see FAs). Marlon & Trey--asbolutely not but they have potential. Zach is solid but no where near as good as he should be--he's like a poor man's version of MJ. Johnny Reilly has done nothing other than a solid performance in a final. Chet sucks. Dustin sucks. Cooke is good. Ashley is good. Nany is average--had a nice final. Latoya beat Jemmye--I'm not impressed--she did add entertainment. Emily--yes/beast. Jonna is average--would have been much better in the old school era. Marie has potential but didn't do much. You listed many people that didn't PROVE anything.
If all the people you listed could do Bananas wouldn't win every season--they've been here and have proven they can't stop him. It will take a veteran (Wes or Sarah) to stop him.
If you suck at gameplay you suck at the challenge
Respect is earned by your actiosn...that's the same thing in all aspects of life--not just competition.
I hope Cory comes on Bruno & Jason are also huge and I want to see them. I really want to see Scott, he said he's interested but he can't see them reaching out to him.
For girls they need Nicole to come on she'd break******* in half. Arielle and Ashlee would do great but sadly they aren't interested.
But the others how do u know they are not going to get better? did bananas impress u on his first challenge? second? third? it was maybe until cutthroat (doing good on daily challenges) and rivals (winning the final) that people and fans actually start seeing him as a good competitor, but if u saw the bananas from the duel or gauntlet 3 you would have think he is average at best and now look at him, my point is that for bananas it took time for him to get better, he didn't shine on his very first challenges, he was average at best.
There are only really few that shine on the first challenge and u know they are natural athletes like CT, the miz, Landon or darrell.
I don't like jordan but i think he has potential, same with johnny, trey and marlon, zach and dustin don't, dustin sucks overall and at this point zach only advantage is that he is the biggest guy there.
Some people just lack athleticism. For example Brooke could do 20 and still be awful. Bananas was pretty good on The Inferno 3 even though I didn't like him. You could see athleticism. It was around the time of Rivals that people started considering him an elite competitor not just a good one.
I never said Jordan, Trey, Reilly or Marlon can't grow into a good competitor. They just aren't there yet. Reilly and Trey have a "size problem" though in this era of the challenge. At his worst--Bananas was never as bad as Jordan in Free Agents. Never. Maybe his ego gets the best of him and he ***** up things he shouldn't but that still falls on him.
Um yes they did. Like I said before they have all proven something at one point..And I think it's funny how you always go back to Jordan's bad preformance on Free Agents yet ignore his good preformance on Rivals 2. And he hasn't done bad on this season so far either. Jordan isn't elite but he isn't bad. One bad preformance doesn't mean he sucks. And everyone I listed has proven something at one point. Whether it be potential or otherwise. I'm not too sure what the hell you want from them.
Oh and by the way...just because your not good at gameplay doesn't mean you're not good period. There's barely any gameplay on this show anyways when you think about it.
And this isn't real life..It's a reality TV show. Respect doesn't exist..especially on this show. I'd think you know that by now.
Dunno Jordan have been performing pretty good this season
The guys haven't done anything yet this season. It was the girls dragging the guys (only CT even tried to help his partner), only the girls mattered with the swimming challenge, last week was about the girls brining paint (not surprising Jonna/Sarah did the best with endurance) and then rounding the bases he did pretty much nothing except fail. So--we've seen he can suck and blow...so he's better than Reilly. Other than that the guys haven't done a damn thing--not just Jordan--every guy on this challenge.
I miss the days where there would be a standout performer that you could look back and be like--wow Roni did great on Rolling on a River or even High Ball where Abram & Laurel dominated pairs of men (Johnny/Derrick & Brad/Dunbar/Tyler)...we simply haven't had any of that. We have guys standing around waiting for an opportunity.
When you say he's been performing pretty good this season you're either just saying it to say it or aren't paying attention. Sarahh's performed well a couple times. Jordan very well may if he gets a chance. I'm really hoping for a guy-centric mission.
Rolled my eyes so hard. ^
He has one hand and performed two last missions better than others(where u btw need both hands) and 2 mission he spin those titties faster than some people with two hands.
I hate people here who are so ******* blind with this hate and deny everything. Like pls. Go away
We're not grading on a curve. He's never going to grow a second hand. The last two missions proved nothing about that. He held onto something a couple seconds longer than some other people--good for him. This is called reaching and I think you know it. Name the people was able to "spin the titties" faster than. Zach--shocking
LOL!
Jordan is a solid competitor, and to say he's less than decent is just silly. But he's also paired with Sarah, who is the strongest woman on this season, so he has a big advantage.
On Rivals 2, Jordan was saying how Marlon could lift a LOT more than Zach, and was by far the strongest person in the house.
Jordan is bias no way in hell this Marlon is stronger than CT Leroy or Zach. Marlon fresh out of college maybe but not Marlon now.
i would say the last mission was also about technique from both the girls and guys as well which is why everybody in the first round did **** poor while second round all did reasonably well after observation. wes also kept falling off the punching bag.
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