So I just watched the episode again and I gotta say I think that Jordan/Sarah was right in not taking the deal. Noone needs to be throwing in Jay/Jenna. At this point that is the weakest team and an easy beat in the final. Screw all that "Rookes" Nonsense. I think Wes decided to start drama because they didn't want to do what HE wanted to do. Sorry Wes. Some people are acutally playing the game for THEMSELVES and making moves that benefit THEM this season. You can't run everybody this time.
And another thing that bothered me was Jordan/Sarah kept calling them Rookies during their talk right after the club scene and also the fact that Wes brought up the fact that Jay/Jenna are rookies too....WHO THE **** CARES!!!?? why does them not being veterans matter? What do they think Jay/Jenna don't deserve to win just because they're first timers? What the **** makes the other people who have done a thousand of these shows any more deserving than a first timer? I swear I hate that mentaility more than anything on this show. It's a game and it's about getting to the end and win. Rookie/Veterans shouldn't be factor ESPECAILLY at this point in the game. Jay/Jenna are the weakest team left. You keep them in the game regardless of how many shows they've done period, point, blank.
It's how the world works, with school,work even history, the low men on the totem pole get treated worse than the veterans. In any game the veterans have power over the rookies. Whether its football, or even survivor So if you're at work you've worked there for years than someone on there first day takes your job, would you be upset.
You know what else happens in the real world? At some point those old veterans retire or disposed of somehow and new people take their spot. But we don't really see that on this show now do we?
This show isn't real life nor is it the world. It really has nothing to do with it.
Its just a mentality that isn't going away. Rookies need to make moves for that to happen, Jay & Jenna won't. They are a layup
Clearly it's not going away but that doesn't mean I have to like it. And yes Jay/Jenna are a layup but they are a layup that noone needs to be even thinking about throwing in which is my point. The only way they should be going in is if they get last and they've done a pretty **** good job avoiding that so assuming they keep that up for the couple of missions they have left they should be golden for the final.
Oh I completely agree they shouldn't go in, I doubt Wes would even send them in if he won and Leroy & Nia lost.
So I just watched the episode again and I gotta say I think that Jordan/Sarah was right in not taking the deal. Noone needs to be throwing in Jay/Jenna. At this point that is the weakest team and an easy beat in the final. Screw all that "Rookes" Nonsense. I think Wes decided to start drama because they didn't want to do what HE wanted to do. Sorry Wes. Some people are acutally playing the game for THEMSELVES and making moves that benefit THEM this season. You can't run everybody this time.
And another thing that bothered me was Jordan/Sarah kept calling them Rookies during their talk right after the club scene and also the fact that Wes brought up the fact that Jay/Jenna are rookies too....WHO THE **** CARES!!!?? why does them not being veterans matter? What do they think Jay/Jenna don't deserve to win just because they're first timers? What the **** makes the other people who have done a thousand of these shows any more deserving than a first timer? I swear I hate that mentaility more than anything on this show. It's a game and it's about getting to the end and win. Rookie/Veterans shouldn't be factor ESPECAILLY at this point in the game. Jay/Jenna are the weakest team left. You keep them in the game regardless of how many shows they've done period, point, blank.
It's how the world works, with school,work even history, the low men on the totem pole get treated worse than the veterans. In any game the veterans have power over the rookies. Whether its football, or even survivor So if you're at work you've worked there for years than someone on there first day takes your job, would you be upset.
You know what else happens in the real world? At some point those old veterans retire or disposed of somehow and new people take their spot. But we don't really see that on this show now do we?
This show isn't real life nor is it the world. It really has nothing to do with it.
Its just a mentality that isn't going away. Rookies need to make moves for that to happen, Jay & Jenna won't. They are a layup
Clearly it's not going away but that doesn't mean I have to like it. And yes Jay/Jenna are a layup but they are a layup that noone needs to be even thinking about throwing in which is my point. The only way they should be going in is if they get last and they've done a pretty **** good job avoiding that so assuming they keep that up for the couple of missions they have left they should be golden for the final.
Oh I completely agree they shouldn't go in, I doubt Wes would even send them in if he won and Leroy & Nia lost.
I agree. I don't think Wes would be that dumb to throw in a weak team against Leroy/Nia had He and Ms. Fail win.
Like I mentioned before, if the final is around the corner, why would you want harder competition rather than easier? Sarah has the right mindset, she's there for winning and nothing else.
Why Jordan gets all that shit from Nia and Leroy when BOTH Sarah&Jordan send them in?
well from twitter it doesn't sound like Nia likes Sarah at all so I'm sure she got some shit for it as well.
Like I mentioned before, if the final is around the corner, why would you want harder competition rather than easier? Sarah has the right mindset, she's there for winning and nothing else.
Why Jordan gets all that shit from Nia and Leroy when BOTH Sarah&Jordan send them in?
well from twitter it doesn't sound like Nia likes Sarah at all so I'm sure she got some shit for it as well.
What did Sarah do to her?
vote her in and she was ****** that Sarah said she wasn't athletic in one of the confessionals when Nia jumped off.
Like I mentioned before, if the final is around the corner, why would you want harder competition rather than easier? Sarah has the right mindset, she's there for winning and nothing else.
Why Jordan gets all that shit from Nia and Leroy when BOTH Sarah&Jordan send them in?
well from twitter it doesn't sound like Nia likes Sarah at all so I'm sure she got some shit for it as well.
Like I mentioned before, if the final is around the corner, why would you want harder competition rather than easier? Sarah has the right mindset, she's there for winning and nothing else.
Why Jordan gets all that shit from Nia and Leroy when BOTH Sarah&Jordan send them in?
well from twitter it doesn't sound like Nia likes Sarah at all so I'm sure she got some shit for it as well.
What did Sarah do to her?
vote her in and she was ****** that Sarah said she wasn't athletic in one of the confessionals when Nia jumped off.
Like I mentioned before, if the final is around the corner, why would you want harder competition rather than easier? Sarah has the right mindset, she's there for winning and nothing else.
Why Jordan gets all that shit from Nia and Leroy when BOTH Sarah&Jordan send them in?
well from twitter it doesn't sound like Nia likes Sarah at all so I'm sure she got some shit for it as well.
What did Sarah do to her?
vote her in and she was ****** that Sarah said she wasn't athletic in one of the confessionals when Nia jumped off.
I agree with Sarah about it, jumping off the platform for no reason was stupid.
Like I mentioned before, if the final is around the corner, why would you want harder competition rather than easier? Sarah has the right mindset, she's there for winning and nothing else.
Why Jordan gets all that shit from Nia and Leroy when BOTH Sarah&Jordan send them in?
well from twitter it doesn't sound like Nia likes Sarah at all so I'm sure she got some shit for it as well.
What did Sarah do to her?
vote her in and she was ****** that Sarah said she wasn't athletic in one of the confessionals when Nia jumped off.
I agree with Sarah about it, jumping off the platform for no reason was stupid.
So I just watched the episode again and I gotta say I think that Jordan/Sarah was right in not taking the deal. Noone needs to be throwing in Jay/Jenna. At this point that is the weakest team and an easy beat in the final. Screw all that "Rookes" Nonsense. I think Wes decided to start drama because they didn't want to do what HE wanted to do. Sorry Wes. Some people are acutally playing the game for THEMSELVES and making moves that benefit THEM this season. You can't run everybody this time.
OK. First it's only smart if Jordan and Sarah don't get last on the mission because if they went in I gaurantee they would be begging to not go up against Leroy/Nia. But way beyond that is why tell Wes the truth there? Just lie and say you will go along with it. At that point they thought there was 1 Dome left. So you lie to him then if you win you are already in the Final and have no consequence to going back on the deal or you go in and hope that Wes or Leroy honor the deal based on your lie. His move to say '** not doing it' makes little sense. Jordan's move would have likely looked very dumb if not for the Exile twist because that mission likely ends much differently without Bananas coming back and unifying Jordan and Leroy against Wes.
So I just watched the episode again and I gotta say I think that Jordan/Sarah was right in not taking the deal. Noone needs to be throwing in Jay/Jenna. At this point that is the weakest team and an easy beat in the final. Screw all that "Rookes" Nonsense. I think Wes decided to start drama because they didn't want to do what HE wanted to do. Sorry Wes. Some people are acutally playing the game for THEMSELVES and making moves that benefit THEM this season. You can't run everybody this time.
OK. First it's only smart if Jordan and Sarah don't get last on the mission because if they went in I gaurantee they would be begging to not go up against Leroy/Nia. But way beyond that is why tell Wes the truth there? Just lie and say you will go along with it. At that point they thought there was 1 Dome left. So you lie to him then if you win you are already in the Final and have no consequence to going back on the deal oryou go in and hope that Wes or Leroy honor the deal based on your lie.His move to say '** not doing it' makes little sense. Jordan's move would have likely looked very dumb if not for the Exile twist because that mission likely ends much differently without Bananas coming back and unifying Jordan and Leroy against Wes.
But what benefit would they have to lie to Wes? You're forgetting it's the FINAL 4 If they go with the deal and they get last who's to say that Pale N Fail or Leroy/Nia is going to give them Jay/Jenna? I don't believe for a second that that deal was going to be honored anyways. It's the end of the game and noone is going to be that stupid to throw in the weakest team left. If any of the other teams get last sans Jay/Jenna you bet you *** they're throwing in the stronger of the 2. Those 3 teams are going to target each other..which is why I don't get why they made that **** deal in the first place. All aliiances and bets should be off at this point.
But what benefit would they have to lie to Wes? You're forgetting it's the FINAL 4 If they go with the deal and they get last who's to say that Pale N Fail or Leroy/Nia is going to give them Jay/Jenna? I don't believe for a second that that deal was going to be honored anyways. It's the end of the game and noone is going to be that stupid to throw in the weakest team left. If any of the other teams get last sans Jay/Jenna you bet you *** they're throwing in the stronger of the 2. Those 3 teams are going to target each other..which is why I don't get why they made that **** deal in the first place. All aliiances and bets should be off at this point.
Ok, but even if we are talking about a 1% chance once he tells him "no" then it's a 0% chance. I agree that it seems unlikely, but I think there is a chance that Wes would decide to not send in Leroy if he was put in that spot. Small chance. So instead ask 'What is gained by being truthful there'? Keeping in mind this is before the twist. Why cause any ripple when nothing is gained? So even if I conceed that lying doesn't necessarily help them, how did telling the truth help? I think that they were made to look a lot better after the twist. I don't see how it makes political sense, lying in that spot doesn't have a downside that I can see (before the twist is known). I guess I'm saying I get where you are coming from and Jordan did come out of it looking good, but I just don't see the downside to just playing it cool and snaking one of them if you win the mission.
But what benefit would they have to lie to Wes? You're forgetting it's the FINAL 4 If they go with the deal and they get last who's to say that Pale N Fail or Leroy/Nia is going to give them Jay/Jenna? I don't believe for a second that that deal was going to be honored anyways. It's the end of the game and noone is going to be that stupid to throw in the weakest team left. If any of the other teams get last sans Jay/Jenna you bet you *** they're throwing in the stronger of the 2. Those 3 teams are going to target each other..which is why I don't get why they made that **** deal in the first place. All aliiances and bets should be off at this point.
Ok, but even if we are talking about a 1% chance once he tells him "no" then it's a 0% chance. I agree that it seems unlikely, but I think there is a chance that Wes would decide to not send in Leroy if he was put in that spot. Small chance. So instead ask 'What is gained by being truthful there'? Keeping in mind this is before the twist. Why cause any ripple when nothing is gained? So even if I conceed that lying doesn't necessarily help them, how did telling the truth help? I think that they were made to look a lot better after the twist. I don't see how it makes political sense, lying in that spot doesn't have a downside that I can see (before the twist is known). I guess I'm saying I get where you are coming from and Jordan did come out of it looking good, but I just don't see the downside to just playing it cool and snaking one of them if you win the mission.
I don't think for a Second that there's even a small chance that he would even send in Jay/Jenna. That is a team you keep until the end. And plus..Wes has proven to be untrustworthy and have no qualms about throwing his allies under the bus. So why should Jordan/Sarah trust him anyways? Why should Leroy for that matter?(and that's probably why he went back to Backpack the minute he returned)I just feel like there's no point in taking that deal because there is a good chance they were gonna end up in that dome anyways and you can't even trust Wes and Leroy isn't exactly good at politics either. It's a pointless shaky alliance. Why lie and join?
I kinda am torn between the teams feelings of the rookies. I somewhat agree with Jordan and Sarah because I would want to keep them in the game because **** that I want an easy win **** THAT. But then I feel Nia and Leroy because you claim to be friends with someone but really your just using them to do your dirty work **** THAT TOO.
Am I the only one who thought it was a little unfair for the girls to have to play with the guys in this challenge?
How so?
Well I assume she means how Johnny essentially just got to kinda shove Theresa over for all intents and purposes. They are the same distance apart so equal in that sense, but it's a pretty one sided thing because of strength.
Am I the only one who thought it was a little unfair for the girls to have to play with the guys in this challenge?
How so?
Well I assume she means how Johnny essentially just got to kinda shove Theresa over for all intents and purposes. They are the same distance apart so equal in that sense, but it's a pretty one sided thing because of strength.
Yea, I meant that pretty much, it's just unfair they may as well have had the guys push the girls off with their hands...
Am I the only one who thought it was a little unfair for the girls to have to play with the guys in this challenge?
How so?
Well I assume she means how Johnny essentially just got to kinda shove Theresa over for all intents and purposes. They are the same distance apart so equal in that sense, but it's a pretty one sided thing because of strength.
Yea, I meant that pretty much, it's just unfair they may as well have had the guys push the girls off with their hands...
Am I the only one who thought it was a little unfair for the girls to have to play with the guys in this challenge?
How so?
Well I assume she means how Johnny essentially just got to kinda shove Theresa over for all intents and purposes. They are the same distance apart so equal in that sense, but it's a pretty one sided thing because of strength.
Yea, I meant that pretty much, it's just unfair they may as well have had the guys push the girls off with their hands...
Personally I don't have a problem with it.
That's fine, but it is unbalanced in the most literal sense. Johnny can throw that bag into Theresa from that distance much harder than she could do it to him. I'm not making a judgement on right/wrong, but it wasn't "equal".
That's fine, but it is unbalanced in the most literal sense. Johnny can throw that bag into Theresa from that distance much harder than she could do it to him. I'm not making a judgement on right/wrong, but it wasn't "equal".
At the same time, Wes could've thrown that thing at Nany so it works the other way too. As far as pairs were concerned, it was equal. Individually, I agree though it wasn't equal.
At the same time, Wes could've thrown that thing at Nany so it works the other way too. As far as pairs were concerned, it was equal. Individually, I agree though it wasn't equal.
That's a great point. The idea of who was next to who wasn't really a big sticking point for me in this challenge anyway. I like the challenges where there's a task to complete and the team who does it the best wins. So my main complaint about the challenge wasn't arrangement as much as just the concept of teams being able to gang up. This has happened other times so it's not liking breaking precedent, but for me it's not what I want to see. Also, this late in the game it seems the worst time to do that type of challenge. I was rooting for Wes though so that plays in to my feelings I'm sure.
That's fine, but it is unbalanced in the most literal sense. Johnny can throw that bag into Theresa from that distance much harder than she could do it to him. I'm not making a judgement on right/wrong, but it wasn't "equal".
At the same time, Wes could've thrown that thing at Nany so it works the other way too. As far as pairs were concerned, it was equal. Individually, I agree though it wasn't equal.
Exactly. Instead Nany was throwing shit at him and he didn't throw anyting at her.
At the same time, Wes could've thrown that thing at Nany so it works the other way too. As far as pairs were concerned, it was equal. Individually, I agree though it wasn't equal.
Exactly. Instead Nany was throwing shit at him and he didn't throw anyting at her.
I feel like that is looking at the challenge as an equivelent game though and not factoring everything in. Theresa presumably falls quickly. At that point Wes probably wouldn't be getting the bag much, unless they exausted other options, if this was as much a group effort as it seemed. It's also different to bend down grab and throw as hardly anyone is hitting you vs. when everyone is trying to hit you. It wasn't exactly like Wes and Johnny were in the exact same situation. I mean maybe he did just not play it very well at all, I'm not saying that, but these weren't like 2 people acting with the exact same variables.
Oh I completely agree they shouldn't go in, I doubt Wes would even send them in if he won and Leroy & Nia lost.
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I agree. I don't think Wes would be that dumb to throw in a weak team against Leroy/Nia had He and Ms. Fail win.
.. Why couldn't it have been bricks?
Why Jordan gets all that shit from Nia and Leroy when BOTH Sarah&Jordan send them in?
well from twitter it doesn't sound like Nia likes Sarah at all so I'm sure she got some shit for it as well.
Like I mentioned before, if the final is around the corner, why would you want harder competition rather than easier? Sarah has the right mindset, she's there for winning and nothing else.
What did Sarah do to her?
vote her in and she was ****** that Sarah said she wasn't athletic in one of the confessionals when Nia jumped off.
**** her man.
Pfft! Well that's too **** bad.
I agree with Sarah about it, jumping off the platform for no reason was stupid.
agreed..that was pretty pathetic
OK. First it's only smart if Jordan and Sarah don't get last on the mission because if they went in I gaurantee they would be begging to not go up against Leroy/Nia. But way beyond that is why tell Wes the truth there? Just lie and say you will go along with it. At that point they thought there was 1 Dome left. So you lie to him then if you win you are already in the Final and have no consequence to going back on the deal or you go in and hope that Wes or Leroy honor the deal based on your lie. His move to say '** not doing it' makes little sense. Jordan's move would have likely looked very dumb if not for the Exile twist because that mission likely ends much differently without Bananas coming back and unifying Jordan and Leroy against Wes.
But what benefit would they have to lie to Wes? You're forgetting it's the FINAL 4 If they go with the deal and they get last who's to say that Pale N Fail or Leroy/Nia is going to give them Jay/Jenna? I don't believe for a second that that deal was going to be honored anyways. It's the end of the game and noone is going to be that stupid to throw in the weakest team left. If any of the other teams get last sans Jay/Jenna you bet you *** they're throwing in the stronger of the 2. Those 3 teams are going to target each other..which is why I don't get why they made that **** deal in the first place. All aliiances and bets should be off at this point.
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Ok, but even if we are talking about a 1% chance once he tells him "no" then it's a 0% chance. I agree that it seems unlikely, but I think there is a chance that Wes would decide to not send in Leroy if he was put in that spot. Small chance. So instead ask 'What is gained by being truthful there'? Keeping in mind this is before the twist. Why cause any ripple when nothing is gained? So even if I conceed that lying doesn't necessarily help them, how did telling the truth help? I think that they were made to look a lot better after the twist. I don't see how it makes political sense, lying in that spot doesn't have a downside that I can see (before the twist is known). I guess I'm saying I get where you are coming from and Jordan did come out of it looking good, but I just don't see the downside to just playing it cool and snaking one of them if you win the mission.
I don't think for a Second that there's even a small chance that he would even send in Jay/Jenna. That is a team you keep until the end. And plus..Wes has proven to be untrustworthy and have no qualms about throwing his allies under the bus. So why should Jordan/Sarah trust him anyways? Why should Leroy for that matter?(and that's probably why he went back to Backpack the minute he returned)I just feel like there's no point in taking that deal because there is a good chance they were gonna end up in that dome anyways and you can't even trust Wes and Leroy isn't exactly good at politics either. It's a pointless shaky alliance. Why lie and join?
I kinda am torn between the teams feelings of the rookies. I somewhat agree with Jordan and Sarah because I would want to keep them in the game because **** that I want an easy win **** THAT. But then I feel Nia and Leroy because you claim to be friends with someone but really your just using them to do your dirty work **** THAT TOO.
Did Nia call Jay or Jenna a scrub?
I think it was to Jay.. lol either way it was ******* hilarious
Am I the only one who thought it was a little unfair for the girls to have to play with the guys in this challenge?
How so?
Well I assume she means how Johnny essentially just got to kinda shove Theresa over for all intents and purposes. They are the same distance apart so equal in that sense, but it's a pretty one sided thing because of strength.
Yea, I meant that pretty much, it's just unfair they may as well have had the guys push the girls off with their hands...
Personally I don't have a problem with it.
That's fine, but it is unbalanced in the most literal sense. Johnny can throw that bag into Theresa from that distance much harder than she could do it to him. I'm not making a judgement on right/wrong, but it wasn't "equal".
At the same time, Wes could've thrown that thing at Nany so it works the other way too. As far as pairs were concerned, it was equal. Individually, I agree though it wasn't equal.
That's a great point. The idea of who was next to who wasn't really a big sticking point for me in this challenge anyway. I like the challenges where there's a task to complete and the team who does it the best wins. So my main complaint about the challenge wasn't arrangement as much as just the concept of teams being able to gang up. This has happened other times so it's not liking breaking precedent, but for me it's not what I want to see. Also, this late in the game it seems the worst time to do that type of challenge. I was rooting for Wes though so that plays in to my feelings I'm sure.
Exactly. Instead Nany was throwing shit at him and he didn't throw anyting at her.
I feel like that is looking at the challenge as an equivelent game though and not factoring everything in. Theresa presumably falls quickly. At that point Wes probably wouldn't be getting the bag much, unless they exausted other options, if this was as much a group effort as it seemed. It's also different to bend down grab and throw as hardly anyone is hitting you vs. when everyone is trying to hit you. It wasn't exactly like Wes and Johnny were in the exact same situation. I mean maybe he did just not play it very well at all, I'm not saying that, but these weren't like 2 people acting with the exact same variables.
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