The Challenge: Final Reckoning - Big Little Lies

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Tony looks hot as **** w a beard

Best episode and best pace of the season. Kam made a cool powermove but the rookies were stupid to vote for themselves. Had they voted on anybody else there is a big chance of one of the two teams to be safe. Had the rookies voted together they would stack 2 votes on a chosen team ( that they think they can beat) and expect someone to burn a vote on them. Easy peasy. It was a good power move but a move that could easily backfired. Plus it was wasted on rookie teams who had no chance on the game.

Tony looks hot as **** w a beard

**** yeah, he did.  He is looking better each season. 

Kam's move was cool to watch especially to see it unfold exactly like she planned it and everyone voting the way she wanted it lol BUT, all of that to throw in some non-threatening rookies was such a letdown.

Either way though, I do like that she at least thought about a strategic plan and did her thing, something most people on this show are too lazy/unable to do. So I give her props for that.

Kam's move was cool to watch especially to see it unfold exactly like she planned it and everyone voting the way she wanted it lol BUT, all of that to throw in some non-threatening rookies was such a letdown.Either way though, I do like that she at least thought about a strategic plan and did her thing, something most people on this show are too lazy/unable to do. So I give her props for that.

I mean, it definitely proved her political chops and I get that it was cool to see her control the house like that... but she really didn't need to do all that to convince everyone to vote in the team that was basically on the verge of being voted in the last 2 times lol

If you "have ties" to every other team in the house but 2... well guess what, you're gonna be letting some people down eventually. Kind of a wasted opportunity but whatever.

Just watched the episode.

Kam's move was brilliant IMO. I personally would've liked to see her use it on stronger teams but here's the thing with how everything played out: It got Angela/Faith in an elimination they're probably going to lose, and people were talking about throwing in Faith/Angela for their polidicking so in the end I think this moved turned out well. Also can I actually state that it's about **** time one of these new women come in and be strategic? That hasn't happened in AGES and I'm happy to see it. I'm even happier is was Queen Kam...Someone who I love on these shows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LOVED Joss and Sylvia Kicking ***. People are really going ot have to rethink Tori being so strong and elite. I mean don't get me wrong the girl is not a bad competitior and Derrick was pretty much no help to her but I think it's pretty clear she's not this beast ***** they're trying to paint her as.

Loved watching King Paulie get so riled up I wish he was in the house. 

I didn't like Angela's *** always talking shit...like ***** shut up. You ******* to stay in the game. You're *** can't EVER pull off what Kam did.

KING HUNTER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

 

Kam's move was much better than Veronica's TBH.

Best episode and best pace of the season. Kam made a cool powermove but the rookies were stupid to vote for themselves. Had they voted on anybody else there is a big chance of one of the two teams to be safe. Had the rookies voted together they would stack 2 votes on a chosen team ( that they think they can beat) and expect someone to burn a vote on them. Easy peasy. It was a good power move but a move that could easily backfired. Plus it was wasted on rookie teams who had no chance on the game.

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Yes I was thinking about this, and then with the mercenaries twist, the rookies would both be safe because whoever they stack a vote against then faces Ashley/Hunter

Kam's move was much better than Veronica's TBH.

Let it be known, this is not true. That's all

Debut Album wrote:

Kam's move was much better than Veronica's TBH.

Let it be known, this is true. That's all

Kam's move = Veronica's move. They both brought it back to the glory days of the show when the girls weren't scared to play the game.

Give Mama Day another season or two & she'll be joining them.

You know, I was really hoping the elimination with Joss/Sylvia and Derrick/Tori was physical as they run into each other. That would've been more great

Challenge 17 wrote:

Kam picking the rookies makes sense, it strengthens her bond with her own allies and hurts only people she didn't have a connection with. If they turned on brad & Kyle then that not only backfires on them but would make her own allies distrust her. Smh at people really thinking it would have made sense for her game. 

KING HUNTER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  

Daddy Hunter with a bandana or a hat can either impregnate me or be face down *** up all day.

Kam's move was much better than Veronica's TBH.

But Veronica's move tossed into elimination  a strong, heavily alligned player in the game, not 2 rookie teams that weren't going to do shit anyway.   Veronica's move was a total blindside. Kams, while well thought out, was an easy, safe choice.

Kam's move was much better than Veronica's TBH.

Wayyyyyy better. Veronica's "power move" was based on luck of where she was sitting. Kam actually thought about hers, convinced people she was doing something and got the whole entire house to go along with her plan without them knowing it. Yall put too much stock on that Veronica vote. 

Debut Album wrote:

Kam's move was much better than Veronica's TBH.

Wayyyyyy better. Veronica's "power move" was based on luck of where she was sitting. Kam actually thought about hers, convinced people she was doing something and got the whole entire house to go along with her plan without them knowing it. Yall put too much stock on that Veronica vote. 

BuT iTs VeROnIcA!!!!

The Veronica move was fun and clever, but kam’s maneuvering this episode was better. She got two teams to put their full trust in her and manipulated the others to do what she wanted. Super impressive for the youngest person on the show in her second season. I still think going after the rookies (specifically faith/Angela) made the most sense.

JohnPhoenix wrote:

Kam's move was cool to watch especially to see it unfold exactly like she planned it and everyone voting the way she wanted it lol BUT, all of that to throw in some non-threatening rookies was such a letdown.Either way though, I do like that she at least thought about a strategic plan and did her thing, something most people on this show are too lazy/unable to do. So I give her props for that.

I mean, it definitely proved her political chops and I get that it was cool to see her control the house like that... but she really didn't need to do all that to convince everyone to vote in the team that was basically on the verge of being voted in the last 2 times lolIf you "have ties" to every other team in the house but 2... well guess what, you're gonna be letting some people down eventually. Kind of a wasted opportunity but whatever.

well based on having alliances tori/derrick were not supposed to be going in. She took what happened to them and knew everyone were gonna do burn votes and MADE sure she kept her main alliance safe.

Debut Album wrote:

Kam's move was much better than Veronica's TBH.

Wayyyyyy better. Veronica's "power move" was based on luck of where she was sitting. Kam actually thought about hers, convinced people she was doing something and got the whole entire house to go along with her plan without them knowing it. Yall put too much stock on that Veronica vote. 

In Veronica's defense... there wasn't a lot of room to creatively politic on Dirty 30 as there is on Final Reckoning.

KChallenge10 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:Kam's move was much better than Veronica's TBH.

Wayyyyyy better. Veronica's "power move" was based on luck of where she was sitting. Kam actually thought about hers, convinced people she was doing something and got the whole entire house to go along with her plan without them knowing it. Yall put too much stock on that Veronica vote. 

In Veronica's defense... there wasn't a lot of room to creatively politic on Dirty 30 as there is on Final Reckoning.

True but to say they are even remotely similar issa no. 

KChallenge10 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:Kam's move was much better than Veronica's TBH.

Wayyyyyy better. Veronica's "power move" was based on luck of where she was sitting. Kam actually thought about hers, convinced people she was doing something and got the whole entire house to go along with her plan without them knowing it. Yall put too much stock on that Veronica vote. 

BuT iTs VeROnIcA!!!!

Debut Album wrote:

Kam's move was much better than Veronica's TBH.

Let it be known, this is not true. That's all

Kinda off topic but why is MTV obsessed with forcing old ties to be put together? Like if you think about it

Rivals, Exes 1, Rivals 2, Explosion, Skeletons, Exes 2, Bad Blood, Rivals 3, and now this "trilogy". **** can they find a new gimmick ? Tired of this same plot. 

Kinda off topic but why is MTV obsessed with forcing old ties to be put together? Like if you think about itRivals, Exes 1, Rivals 2, Explosion, Skeletons, Exes 2, Bad Blood, Rivals 3, and now this "trilogy". **** can they find a new gimmick ? Tired of this same plot. 

It's easier for them to start drama if people already have issues with each other 

Cochroach wrote:

Kinda off topic but why is MTV obsessed with forcing old ties to be put together? Like if you think about itRivals, Exes 1, Rivals 2, Explosion, Skeletons, Exes 2, Bad Blood, Rivals 3, and now this "trilogy". **** can they find a new gimmick ? Tired of this same plot. 

It's easier for them to start drama if people already have issues with each other 

yet the drama be stale. Why do they forget that they best drama came from team seasons with no twist ****. These days they wrap the cast around the twist/format when back then it was the Cast that made the format or whatever. Idk why competition shows are in the era of being extra but I wish they would go back to some OG roots

Cochroach wrote:

Kinda off topic but why is MTV obsessed with forcing old ties to be put together? Like if you think about itRivals, Exes 1, Rivals 2, Explosion, Skeletons, Exes 2, Bad Blood, Rivals 3, and now this "trilogy". **** can they find a new gimmick ? Tired of this same plot. 

It's easier for them to start drama if people already have issues with each other 

they should focus on real rivalries and not fake ones.

Challenge 17 wrote:

Cochroach wrote:Kinda off topic but why is MTV obsessed with forcing old ties to be put together? Like if you think about itRivals, Exes 1, Rivals 2, Explosion, Skeletons, Exes 2, Bad Blood, Rivals 3, and now this "trilogy". **** can they find a new gimmick ? Tired of this same plot. 

It's easier for them to start drama if people already have issues with each other 

they should focus on real rivalries and not fake ones.

Not really possible nowadays.

Challenge 17 wrote:

Cochroach wrote:Kinda off topic but why is MTV obsessed with forcing old ties to be put together? Like if you think about itRivals, Exes 1, Rivals 2, Explosion, Skeletons, Exes 2, Bad Blood, Rivals 3, and now this "trilogy". **** can they find a new gimmick ? Tired of this same plot. 

It's easier for them to start drama if people already have issues with each other 

yet the drama be stale. Why do they forget that they best drama came from team seasons with no twist ****. These days they wrap the cast around the twist/format when back then it was the Cast that made the format or whatever. Idk why competition shows are in the era of being extra but I wish they would go back to some OG roots

That part.

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