That was 1998. This is 2017. You dont need to know the history of the show. Many Rw people have flopped too. Small sample size for AYTO and I think there are a handful at least so far that have brought it.Im sure a lot of Real World people arent familar with Challenge history either. They recruit the same type of people for both shows. Knowing who Derrick or Darrell are does not mean shit
Yes they should ! That's the main reason why most of them flopped. Because they don't know how the show really works out. When you have someone like Nate or Dario (that I like both very much) fighting for 3rd place in order to please Bananas, like ***** what ? Cory know how to make moves, so is Kailah or Tony and this how they played a good game as of now, because they have some knowledge of the show. Something, Anthony didn't have for instance.Plus, The Challenge was supposed to make Real Worlders (and Road Rulers) interact with each other in order to grow together or destruct each other more, which used to give us good TV.Like CT for instance, on Real World who bullied Adam, beat the shit out of him on Duel 2 a few years later, then became friends on Rivals after he apologized to him for what he used to do to him, until to get betrayed by him on an elimination while they were a team. So like Debut said, the purpose of this show was to bring to light Real Worlders relationships between each others. Their stories with their ups and downs in a nutshell.
By including AYTO, the purpose of this show is kinda "broken" even though, I don't mind it... This is why Challenge fans are ****** off about AYTO bieng a part of the show.
Knowing the history of the show is not going to help you in a physical elimination. You can watch one season and get the general idea of the show. Sure it would be cool if everyone knew the entire history but it isnt necessary
Physical missions don't get you nowhere, if you don't know how to play the game right. And no, each season has a different "game". It wouldn't be the same if for instance, it's a "Cutthroat" theme and a "Rivals/Exes" theme...you play the game differently according to themes. But overall I get where you're coming from. It's not absolutely necessary, but it's better. Plus, tbh, I think Anthony, Dario, Nelson, Adam, Nate and Devin (politically wise) did rather well on the show (without being extraordinary).
And its been almost 20 years. Things change. If you dont like change too bad
That's not what the point is, for my part. I just wanted to explain you, why some Challenge fans would be upset of AYTO being a part of this show. I never said it was a bad thing !
That was 1998. This is 2017. You dont need to know the history of the show. Many Rw people have flopped too. Small sample size for AYTO and I think there are a handful at least so far that have brought it.Im sure a lot of Real World people arent familar with Challenge history either. They recruit the same type of people for both shows. Knowing who Derrick or Darrell are does not mean shit
Yes they should ! That's the main reason why most of them flopped. Because they don't know how the show really works out. When you have someone like Nate or Dario (that I like both very much) fighting for 3rd place in order to please Bananas, like ***** what ? Cory know how to make moves, so is Kailah or Tony and this how they played a good game as of now, because they have some knowledge of the show. Something, Anthony didn't have for instance.Plus, The Challenge was supposed to make Real Worlders (and Road Rulers) interact with each other in order to grow together or destruct each other more, which used to give us good TV.Like CT for instance, on Real World who bullied Adam, beat the shit out of him on Duel 2 a few years later, then became friends on Rivals after he apologized to him for what he used to do to him, until to get betrayed by him on an elimination while they were a team. So like Debut said, the purpose of this show was to bring to light Real Worlders relationships between each others. Their stories with their ups and downs in a nutshell.By including AYTO, the purpose of this show is kinda "broken" even though, I don't mind it... This is why Challenge fans are ****** off about AYTO bieng a part of the show.
To The Bolded: Exactly. That's why I didn't like The Fresh Meat for the longest time.
Eddie1378 wrote:I know I wasnt talking directly about you lol Im just frustrated with people who cant accept change
some people chooose to live in pre fresh meat days
Well I mean when those days were so much better than the bullshit that followed can you blame them?
Not at all. They are the golden era but as much as I love the challenges from then, living 10-12 years in the past won't allow you to enjoy whats going on today. I don't mean that just for challenges, but many things.
Eddie1378 wrote:I know I wasnt talking directly about you lol Im just frustrated with people who cant accept change
some people chooose to live in pre fresh meat days
Well I mean when those days were so much better than the bullshit that followed can you blame them?
Not at all. They are the golden era but as much as I love the challenges from then, living 10-12 years in the past won't allow you to enjoy whats going on today. I don't mean that just for challenges, but many things.
That's true but I personally have no issue with enjoying the challenges of now. I've been loving this season for instance. Not to mention recent seasons like Seasons 2 and Exes 2 I've loved to pieces. I don't feel that I have to like every change that this show goes through. Especially when those changes hasn't really helped the show in any way...like AYTO.
Eddie1378 wrote:I know I wasnt talking directly about you lol Im just frustrated with people who cant accept change
some people chooose to live in pre fresh meat days
Well I mean when those days were so much better than the bullshit that followed can you blame them?
Not at all. They are the golden era but as much as I love the challenges from then, living 10-12 years in the past won't allow you to enjoy whats going on today. I don't mean that just for challenges, but many things.
I agree. I love old school, but I'm also open to the new kids. Particularly AYTO. Tbh the AYTO kids have brought more to recent challenges than the new RW kids. In terms of entertainment, competition and likability. AYTO girls have been cleaning house. RW girls post-Portland have been ... mediocre ... at best.
If they would leave AYTO2 the **** at home we would be good. There is no reason whatsoever they've had the most representation when season 1 & 3 have brought it the most and season 4/5 could bring it more as well.
I think GBOGH & Bad Blood can also bring it. CeeJai is about to be the next Elimination Queen.
If they would leave AYTO2 the **** at home we would be good. There is no reason whatsoever they've had the most representation when season 1 & 3 have brought it the most and season 4/5 could bring it more as well.I think GBOGH & Bad Blood can also bring it. CeeJai is about to be the next Elimination Queen.
Yeah..AYTO2 people really have been trash. Just in terms of who brought it IMO they need to bother with Season 3 and 4 and that's it(Noone from Season 4 has been on but I see potentional in some of them).
If they would leave AYTO2 the **** at home we would be good. There is no reason whatsoever they've had the most representation when season 1 & 3 have brought it the most and season 4/5 could bring it more as well.
I think GBOGH & Bad Blood can also bring it. CeeJai and Jenny (when she debuts) are about to be the next Elimination Queens.
If they would leave AYTO2 the **** at home we would be good. There is no reason whatsoever they've had the most representation when season 1 & 3 have brought it the most and season 4/5 could bring it more as well.I think GBOGH & Bad Blood can also bring it. CeeJai is about to be the next Elimination Queen.
Agreed. They were all forgettable. I honestly kinda **** with Dario and Anthony now, but still would rather see other AYTO people.
Lowkey would like to see a Devin/Nelson/Amanda/Rashida Seasons team. <3
If they would leave AYTO2 the **** at home we would be good. There is no reason whatsoever they've had the most representation when season 1 & 3 have brought it the most and season 4/5 could bring it more as well.I think GBOGH & Bad Blood can also bring it. CeeJai is about to be the next Elimination Queen.
Agreed. They were all forgettable. I honestly kinda **** with Dario and Anthony now, but still would rather see other AYTO people. Lowkey would like to see a Devin/Nelson/Amanda/Rashida Seasons team. <3
If they would leave AYTO2 the **** at home we would be good. There is no reason whatsoever they've had the most representation when season 1 & 3 have brought it the most and season 4/5 could bring it more as well.I think GBOGH & Bad Blood can also bring it. CeeJai is about to be the next Elimination Queen.
Agreed. They were all forgettable. I honestly kinda **** with Dario and Anthony now, but still would rather see other AYTO people. Lowkey would like to see a Devin/Nelson/Amanda/Rashida Seasons team. <3
We'll see what Rashida does on the spinoff but ehhh....I don't care to see any season 3 girls besides Amanda & Chey though.
Graphik wrote:If they would leave AYTO2 the **** at home we would be good. There is no reason whatsoever they've had the most representation when season 1 & 3 have brought it the most and season 4/5 could bring it more as well.I think GBOGH & Bad Blood can also bring it. CeeJai is about to be the next Elimination Queen.
Agreed. They were all forgettable. I honestly kinda **** with Dario and Anthony now, but still would rather see other AYTO people. Lowkey would like to see a Devin/Nelson/Amanda/Rashida Seasons team. <3
We'll see what Rashida does on the spinoff but ehhh....I don't care to see any season 3 girls besides Amanda & Chey though.
I don't know who she is honestly. I just remember she's Devin's partner on that AYTO challenge lol.
Yes they should ! That's the main reason why most of them flopped. Because they don't know how the show really works out. When you have someone like Nate or Dario (that I like both very much) fighting for 3rd place in order to please Bananas, like ***** what ? Cory know how to make moves, so is Kailah or Tony and this how they played a good game as of now, because they have some knowledge of the show. Something, Anthony didn't have for instance.Plus, The Challenge was supposed to make Real Worlders (and Road Rulers) interact with each other in order to grow together or destruct each other more, which used to give us good TV.Like CT for instance, on Real World who bullied Adam, beat the shit out of him on Duel 2 a few years later, then became friends on Rivals after he apologized to him for what he used to do to him, until to get betrayed by him on an elimination while they were a team. So like Debut said, the purpose of this show was to bring to light Real Worlders relationships between each others. Their stories with their ups and downs in a nutshell.
By including AYTO, the purpose of this show is kinda "broken" even though, I don't mind it... This is why Challenge fans are ****** off about AYTO bieng a part of the show.
Knowing the history of the show is not going to help you in a physical elimination. You can watch one season and get the general idea of the show. Sure it would be cool if everyone knew the entire history but it isnt necessary
And its been almost 20 years. Things change. If you dont like change too bad
Physical missions don't get you nowhere, if you don't know how to play the game right. And no, each season has a different "game". It wouldn't be the same if for instance, it's a "Cutthroat" theme and a "Rivals/Exes" theme...you play the game differently according to themes. But overall I get where you're coming from. It's not absolutely necessary, but it's better. Plus, tbh, I think Anthony, Dario, Nelson, Adam, Nate and Devin (politically wise) did rather well on the show (without being extraordinary).
Cant forget queen Amanda
That's not what the point is, for my part. I just wanted to explain you, why some Challenge fans would be upset of AYTO being a part of this show. I never said it was a bad thing !
Hm, no thanks. Nelzzzon can stay where he at. Amanda cute and all, too, but one more season and she can stay gone for good.
Devin and Simone only >>>>
I know I wasnt talking directly about you lol Im just frustrated with people who cant accept change
Forget about Simone bc I dont see her as a good competitor but she brought it too
some people chooose to live in pre fresh meat days
To The Bolded: Exactly. That's why I didn't like The Fresh Meat for the longest time.
Well I mean when those days were so much better than the bullshit that followed can you blame them?
Not at all. They are the golden era but as much as I love the challenges from then, living 10-12 years in the past won't allow you to enjoy whats going on today. I don't mean that just for challenges, but many things.
That's true but I personally have no issue with enjoying the challenges of now. I've been loving this season for instance. Not to mention recent seasons like Seasons 2 and Exes 2 I've loved to pieces. I don't feel that I have to like every change that this show goes through. Especially when those changes hasn't really helped the show in any way...like AYTO.
I agree. I love old school, but I'm also open to the new kids. Particularly AYTO. Tbh the AYTO kids have brought more to recent challenges than the new RW kids. In terms of entertainment, competition and likability. AYTO girls have been cleaning house. RW girls post-Portland have been ... mediocre ... at best.
i was against ayto addition to the show but with the past 2 seasons of RW, ill take my chances on the AYTO folks honestly.
If they would leave AYTO2 the **** at home we would be good. There is no reason whatsoever they've had the most representation when season 1 & 3 have brought it the most and season 4/5 could bring it more as well.
I think GBOGH & Bad Blood can also bring it. CeeJai is about to be the next Elimination Queen.
Yeah..AYTO2 people really have been trash. Just in terms of who brought it IMO they need to bother with Season 3 and 4 and that's it(Noone from Season 4 has been on but I see potentional in some of them).
Agreed. They were all forgettable. I honestly kinda **** with Dario and Anthony now, but still would rather see other AYTO people.
Lowkey would like to see a Devin/Nelson/Amanda/Rashida Seasons team. <3
We'll see what Rashida does on the spinoff but ehhh....I don't care to see any season 3 girls besides Amanda & Chey though.
Kayla or Kiki?
I don't know who she is honestly. I just remember she's Devin's partner on that AYTO challenge lol.
Neither.
... Kiki would be pretty fun if Devin was on
Kayla Lusby all day.
I don't even remember Kayla & Kiki looks too much like Smashley and would be just a low-grade, less interesting version.
Kayla was a pretty big part of AYTO 3 and Kiki was the most prominent person other than Devin so
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