Miami doesn't have any truly big names. Yeah I'd like to see Vegas but it's not like marketing NY LA or even NOLA.
But NOLA was shit and was just Jon Murray's wet dream. Watching Flora alone would be better than NOLA. This is just Jon Murray's fantasy which is why I can't stand him. He came off so out of touch in this AMA on Reddit.
Miami doesn't have any truly big names. Yeah I'd like to see Vegas but it's not like marketing NY LA or even NOLA.
But NOLA was shit and was just Jon Murray's wet dream. Watching Flora alone would be better than NOLA. This is just Jon Murray's fantasy which is why I can't stand him. He came off so out of touch in this AMA on Reddit.
Danny Melissa and Julie were bigger than Flora Dan and whomever. Danny with the whole Don't Ask Don't Tell...Julie being kicked out of school. It's okay to like Miami more but to pretend wanting NOLA over Miami was somehow bias is rewriting history. Now we can be critical of them not discussing Danny having HIV and a ton of other stuff but the choice between the two was easy
Whatever. But let's be real here it's not because Any season is bigger than the other. The only reason we aren't getting Miami is because Flora makes Jon Murray shake in his boots. I hope it's Miami or nothing and none of his other choices agree to do another season. F him.
Whatever. But let's be real here it's not because Any season is bigger than the other. The only reason we aren't getting Miami is because Flora makes Jon Murray shake in his boots. I hope it's Miami or nothing and none of his other choices agree to do another season. F him.
Why are you so convinced that Bunim-Murray isn't interested in doing a Miami Homecoming because of Jon Murray and his supposed dislike of one cast member? Yes he created the show, but he is only one person and there are so many factors that probably go into deciding to go forward with something like this or not.
I would guess in this case it once again comes down to viewership and either Bunim-Murray or Paramount feeling like enough people wouldn't watch a Miami Homecoming to justify the expense of making/promoting it. I also feel like they probably don't want to do it because they can't really tie that season to some bigger cultural discussion they way they have been able to with other Homecoming seasons. Boston, Seattle and Hawaii all have a potential for larger cultural commentary and connections to the present day cultural conversation, which seems to be one of the main focuses of Homecoming. Miami was a highly entertaining season, but the stories were just too specific and personal to connect to a bigger social issue I think.
If I ever see RW Miami it would be for Dan and Melissa and try my best to ignore Flora.
I am beginning to think Jon Murray always buckles like a belt since in Battle of the Sexes 1 he pretty much was forced to keep Puck over David Edwards when it was clear as day Puck should have been sent home by most of the cast. I feel sorry for them.
Uh because Jon Murray is the head of all of this and is probably the main person who decides which seasons are a go or not.
The star of the season, Flora, has been problematic in the past. She sued them in 1996 after their season aired and she's organized walk outs over pay. Which is why I think Jon is behind all this. He just doesn't want to deal with Flora.
If I ever see RW Miami it would be for Dan and Melissa and try my best to ignore Flora.
I am beginning to think Jon Murray always buckles like a belt since in Battle of the Sexes 1 he pretty much was forced to keep Puck over David Edwards when it was clear as day Puck should have been sent home by most of the cast. I feel sorry for them.
Yea that wasn't a good look for Jon during BOTSexes. He's a very stupid man and came off so bad during his Reddit AMA. I never really felt any way towards him but after that AMA and now him holding up this Miami Homecoming he's working my nerves.
If I ever see RW Miami it would be for Dan and Melissa and try my best to ignore Flora.
I am beginning to think Jon Murray always buckles like a belt since in Battle of the Sexes 1 he pretty much was forced to keep Puck over David Edwards when it was clear as day Puck should have been sent home by most of the cast. I feel sorry for them.
Yea that wasn't a good look for Jon during BOTSexes. He's a very stupid man and came off so bad during his Reddit AMA. I never really felt any way towards him but after that AMA and now him holding up this Miami Homecoming he's working my nerves.
Yeah he's so stupid. He made millions and essentially created Reality TV in America. Idiot
If I ever see RW Miami it would be for Dan and Melissa and try my best to ignore Flora.
I am beginning to think Jon Murray always buckles like a belt since in Battle of the Sexes 1 he pretty much was forced to keep Puck over David Edwards when it was clear as day Puck should have been sent home by most of the cast. I feel sorry for them.
Yea that wasn't a good look for Jon during BOTSexes. He's a very stupid man and came off so bad during his Reddit AMA. I never really felt any way towards him but after that AMA and now him holding up this Miami Homecoming he's working my nerves.
Yeah he's so stupid. He made millions and essentially created Reality TV in America. Idiot
It was my choice of words to express that I don't like the man.
Hawaii is the only other season that's confirmed to have been asked again. No other seasons have for sure been contacted. This is for this year. Last year feelers were sent out for Seattle and Hawaii both fell thru. Producers were also asking some of Miami if they wanted to do it but they gave Dan the excuse that it wasn't a fan choice so they needed to get it trending or whatever. This year Miami has done the footwork themselves and they are all in but that piece of shit Jon Murray doesn't want to do that season.
And people saying Miami would lack cultural relevance are so wrong. If you've watched the season then you know that the material is there:
discuss Dan's journey from Miami modeling dominance and later Italy to Dan becoming a nurse on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic in NYC and even appearing on Rachel Maddow.
discuss how most of the cast later went on to have their own successful businesses when they couldn't put one together in Miami. I know Flora, Cynthia and Mike have or had very successful businesses
how Miami was the first season to require the cast to have a task or job
more than one episode could be devoted to Flora alone. Her failed marriage to Mitchell, her husband drowning in their backyard in a freak accident. You could go on and on with her and she would give Tami vibes from LA and carry the entire season on her back
Joe and his girlfriend Nic and all the negative backlash she received from fans of the show and their engagement dissolving shortly after
Miami was the blueprint for the party season that Jon Murray rubs one out to. Show a package at how Miami walked so later party seasons like Hawaii, Las Vegas, San Diego and Cancun could run.
of course the infamous shower scene that was responsible for debauchery on The Real World and the spike in ratings that it caused.
How London was such a dud that the producers knew what they were doing giving the cast a hot tub, jet skis in their backyard in the heart of modeling season in Miami. Production wanted a wilder more risqué season and this cast delivered with the first known hook up between two castmembers Mike/Melissa
revisit the Dan/Melissa fight.
you want race issues? Done roll the Cynthia/Flora footage
This cast would deliver and there's no doubt in my mind that they would. The personalities on this season would be amazing and this cast wouldn't look at you stone faced and dodge hard hitting questions like NOLA did. Instead they would know how to tell an interesting story. They just need to stop being STUPID and give it to us. The cast has done all the footwork at contacting everyone to see if they're interested. Just do it and have possibly the best Homecoming to date.
Flora's husband DIED?! DURING production?!!! Whoa, RIP. Also, I just remembered who Cynthia was from her appearance in Battle of the Sexes 2 where she was voted out by Robin instead of the majority's pick Angela. Before Cynthia was to leave in the minivan, Aneesa and Coral were forming a ruckus over the decision but Cynthia didn't really care either way.
No Flora married Mitchell who was on Miami after the season aired. She later divorced and married someone else who passed away. That wasn't a part of The Real World. It was several years after the show had filmed. He was also the father of her daughter.
And people saying Miami would lack cultural relevance are so wrong. If you've watched the season then you know that the material is there:
discuss Dan's journey from Miami modeling dominance and later Italy to Dan becoming a nurse on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic in NYC and even appearing on Rachel Maddow.
discuss how most of the cast later went on to have their own successful businesses when they couldn't put one together in Miami. I know Flora, Cynthia and Mike have or had very successful businesses
how Miami was the first season to require the cast to have a task or job
more than one episode could be devoted to Flora alone. Her failed marriage to Mitchell, her husband drowning in their backyard in a freak accident. You could go on and on with her and she would give Tami vibes from LA and carry the entire season on her back
Joe and his girlfriend Nic and all the negative backlash she received from fans of the show and their engagement dissolving shortly after
Miami was the blueprint for the party season that Jon Murray rubs one out to. Show a package at how Miami walked so later party seasons like Hawaii, Las Vegas, San Diego and Cancun could run.
of course the infamous shower scene that was responsible for debauchery on The Real World and the spike in ratings that it caused.
How London was such a dud that the producers knew what they were doing giving the cast a hot tub, jet skis in their backyard in the heart of modeling season in Miami. Production wanted a wilder more risqué season and this cast delivered with the first known hook up between two castmembers Mike/Melissa
revisit the Dan/Melissa fight.
you want race issues? Done roll the Cynthia/Flora footage
This cast would deliver and there's no doubt in my mind that they would. The personalities on this season would be amazing and this cast wouldn't look at you stone faced and dodge hard hitting questions like NOLA did. Instead they would know how to tell an interesting story. They just need to stop being STUPID and give it to us. The cast has done all the footwork at contacting everyone to see if they're interested. Just do it and have possibly the best Homecoming to date.
Perfectly said! We NEED a Miami Homecoming if they want to continue on with the series. All of us fans know that a RW Miami Homecoming WILL deliver! Flora, Melissa, Dan, Sarah, Cynthia.... we NEED them back on our screens!! I'd bet money that the ratings would be great so long as they promote it properly.
Was all the limited footage of Charlie on what they chose to air in RW San Diego 1 all they really had? I know there was a rape inside the house that I think was being carried out inside the house but at the time the castmates *Charlie included since Frankie already left* were vacationing in Mexico. I just feel like Charlie was more of a missed opportunity for his season since even if he did one Challenge, he couldn't receive his full spot in the television due to some ******** who raped a poor woman and the cameras *supposedly* didn't catch a thing...
If I ever see RW Miami it would be for Dan and Melissa and try my best to ignore Flora.
I am beginning to think Jon Murray always buckles like a belt since in Battle of the Sexes 1 he pretty much was forced to keep Puck over David Edwards when it was clear as day Puck should have been sent home by most of the cast. I feel sorry for them.
Yea that wasn't a good look for Jon during BOTSexes. He's a very stupid man and came off so bad during his Reddit AMA. I never really felt any way towards him but after that AMA and now him holding up this Miami Homecoming he's working my nerves.
If you don't mind me asking what did he say on Reddit?
In BOTSexes 1, the only ones who didn't really care about whether Puck went home or not were mostly from the girl's side. IIRC it was Lori, Ellen, and Tonya. Heroines all, the silent group I would be happy to congratulate in not talking a stand.
If I ever see RW Miami it would be for Dan and Melissa and try my best to ignore Flora.
I am beginning to think Jon Murray always buckles like a belt since in Battle of the Sexes 1 he pretty much was forced to keep Puck over David Edwards when it was clear as day Puck should have been sent home by most of the cast. I feel sorry for them.
Yea that wasn't a good look for Jon during BOTSexes. He's a very stupid man and came off so bad during his Reddit AMA. I never really felt any way towards him but after that AMA and now him holding up this Miami Homecoming he's working my nerves.
If you don't mind me asking what did he say on Reddit?
He came off as rude. He told one genuine fan "one question only moving on". Meanwhile he answered multiple questions from other people. He also seemed out of touch and arrogant complete with the Hollywood business attitude. He said that the fans picked one of the castmembers on Hollywood which was a bad thing, meanwhile the one they picked was the best one on the cast. He came off as clueless. He also said Johnny Bananas is his favorite contender *puke*. He lost me with that one. Him & I just have opposite opinions.
And so RW Hollywood Homecoming might not happen all because Jon M gets his kicks from Bananas polluting our screens while the chosen one Greg could have provided us the entertainment Puck would had he not gone off the grid. Speaking of Greg, in an interview he said that with the exception of Joey who he felt was misunderstood he hated everyone else during his stay in the house. Especially Will who is infamous for the foursome he had with Dave and two girls which I guess expands the threesome that Alton had in Vegas 1. And Sarah who never was content with the people around her, criticizing their flaws so it would have to be a enduring soul that her boyfriend would have to be in order to tolerate her. Besides that, Janelle from Key West not only dated Will for a while but she also attended the reunion to confront his cheating ways and in one improv act, those two who shall not be mentioned from Fresh Meat 1 attended the event. As far as Challenge goes, Dave quit his only shot for a girl back home *loser*, Brittini dominated Duel 2 coming very close to winning on the girls side against veteran Rachel who btw I love her shorter hairstyle. And even Kimberly who nobody thought would destroy a lot of competition dominated for the time she was there. Nick was mild in his appearances either being the first one or second one out. Had Joey gotten the psych ok I think he could have done some damage but RIP.
If I ever see RW Miami it would be for Dan and Melissa and try my best to ignore Flora.
I am beginning to think Jon Murray always buckles like a belt since in Battle of the Sexes 1 he pretty much was forced to keep Puck over David Edwards when it was clear as day Puck should have been sent home by most of the cast. I feel sorry for them.
What the heck are you talking about? The bulk of the cast said Puck shouldn't get sent home because David instigated it and then admitted that he provoked Puck so he would do something so he could send him home. The fact that they refused to go film the intro was because they took Puck's side.
If I ever see RW Miami it would be for Dan and Melissa and try my best to ignore Flora.
I am beginning to think Jon Murray always buckles like a belt since in Battle of the Sexes 1 he pretty much was forced to keep Puck over David Edwards when it was clear as day Puck should have been sent home by most of the cast. I feel sorry for them.
What the heck are you talking about? The bulk of the cast said Puck shouldn't get sent home because David instigated it and then admitted that he provoked Puck so he would do something so he could send him home. The fact that they refused to go film the intro was because they took Puck's side.
BTW, in the first night Puck and Shane had a heart to heart which I felt was touching showing that he had at some point changed his views on LBGT+. That said, I really hunger a RW San Francisco Homecoming to see whether the hatred the rest of the cast had for Puck can be forgotten at least for Pedro's memory.
Oh really? I must have been extremely mistaken, sorry about that. I always assumed that because David got the opportunity for payback in terms of getting the change to voluntarily spit back at Puck but for some vague David went back on that offer and so Puck got to stay and David punked out with his "Am I in the Twilight Zone?" speech.
If I ever see RW Miami it would be for Dan and Melissa and try my best to ignore Flora.
I am beginning to think Jon Murray always buckles like a belt since in Battle of the Sexes 1 he pretty much was forced to keep Puck over David Edwards when it was clear as day Puck should have been sent home by most of the cast. I feel sorry for them.
What the heck are you talking about? The bulk of the cast said Puck shouldn't get sent home because David instigated it and then admitted that he provoked Puck so he would do something so he could send him home. The fact that they refused to go film the intro was because they took Puck's side.
BTW, in the first night Puck and Shane had a heart to heart which I felt was touching showing that he had at some point changed his views on LBGT+. That said, I really hunger a RW San Francisco Homecoming to see whether the hatred the rest of the cast had for Puck can be forgotten at least for Pedro's memory.
Oh really? I must have been extremely mistaken, sorry about that. I always assumed that because David got the opportunity for payback in terms of getting the change to voluntarily spit back at Puck but for some vague David went back on that offer and so Puck got to stay and David punked out with his "Am I in the Twilight Zone?" speech.
OK so obviously almost everyone in BOTSexes 1 was cool with Puck except David E. But I do know last I saw was that Puck would antagonize Ellen which would lead to her not attending his wedding wiith Betty, may I ask the reasoning of his behavior towards her?
*sighs* I can see now that I am becoming an extremely annoying stan of which I recently found out the meaning of the slang. If anyone can offer me pointers of what is the correct way of engaging in a convo specific to the topic, I am all ears.
The reason everyone took Puck's side is because David had been getting into a lot of fights and rubbing people the wrong way even before filming began. He got Piggy sent home after a fight at the pool which Jisela said was a wild fight. Then he started in with Puck during the spit fight. Also not shown was David spitting in Beth's face and then some of it getting on Ayanna and her going ballistic. So yea that's why everyone had Puck's back they were sick of David and all of the drama he was starting even before the cast shot the opening sequence.
As for Ellen and Puck they were just oil and water. Two strong personalities and Puck doesn't like people like that. He always had someone to pick on during his shows. In SF it was Pedro & Judd. On this one he chose Ellen. They kept bickering and Ellen didn't attend his wedding because she thought he was just doing it for more camera time.
But NOLA was shit and was just Jon Murray's wet dream. Watching Flora alone would be better than NOLA. This is just Jon Murray's fantasy which is why I can't stand him. He came off so out of touch in this AMA on Reddit.
Danny Melissa and Julie were bigger than Flora Dan and whomever. Danny with the whole Don't Ask Don't Tell...Julie being kicked out of school. It's okay to like Miami more but to pretend wanting NOLA over Miami was somehow bias is rewriting history. Now we can be critical of them not discussing Danny having HIV and a ton of other stuff but the choice between the two was easy
KVM is just here to fight. Weirdo thrives on it.
Yes I know dealing with reality is looking for fights
Whatever. But let's be real here it's not because Any season is bigger than the other. The only reason we aren't getting Miami is because Flora makes Jon Murray shake in his boots. I hope it's Miami or nothing and none of his other choices agree to do another season. F him.
Why are you so convinced that Bunim-Murray isn't interested in doing a Miami Homecoming because of Jon Murray and his supposed dislike of one cast member? Yes he created the show, but he is only one person and there are so many factors that probably go into deciding to go forward with something like this or not.
I would guess in this case it once again comes down to viewership and either Bunim-Murray or Paramount feeling like enough people wouldn't watch a Miami Homecoming to justify the expense of making/promoting it. I also feel like they probably don't want to do it because they can't really tie that season to some bigger cultural discussion they way they have been able to with other Homecoming seasons. Boston, Seattle and Hawaii all have a potential for larger cultural commentary and connections to the present day cultural conversation, which seems to be one of the main focuses of Homecoming. Miami was a highly entertaining season, but the stories were just too specific and personal to connect to a bigger social issue I think.
If I ever see RW Miami it would be for Dan and Melissa and try my best to ignore Flora.
I am beginning to think Jon Murray always buckles like a belt since in Battle of the Sexes 1 he pretty much was forced to keep Puck over David Edwards when it was clear as day Puck should have been sent home by most of the cast. I feel sorry for them.
Uh because Jon Murray is the head of all of this and is probably the main person who decides which seasons are a go or not.
The star of the season, Flora, has been problematic in the past. She sued them in 1996 after their season aired and she's organized walk outs over pay. Which is why I think Jon is behind all this. He just doesn't want to deal with Flora.
Yea that wasn't a good look for Jon during BOTSexes. He's a very stupid man and came off so bad during his Reddit AMA. I never really felt any way towards him but after that AMA and now him holding up this Miami Homecoming he's working my nerves.
Which season(s) do they wanna do?
Yeah he's so stupid. He made millions and essentially created Reality TV in America. Idiot
Boston with Sean or Back to NY with Mike and Coral...since neither will happen we'll get Key West if Svetlana finds her phone or Austin
It was my choice of words to express that I don't like the man.
Hawaii is the only other season that's confirmed to have been asked again. No other seasons have for sure been contacted. This is for this year. Last year feelers were sent out for Seattle and Hawaii both fell thru. Producers were also asking some of Miami if they wanted to do it but they gave Dan the excuse that it wasn't a fan choice so they needed to get it trending or whatever. This year Miami has done the footwork themselves and they are all in but that piece of shit Jon Murray doesn't want to do that season.
This is giving forever in hiatus like the revamped version of road rules lol
And people saying Miami would lack cultural relevance are so wrong. If you've watched the season then you know that the material is there:
This cast would deliver and there's no doubt in my mind that they would. The personalities on this season would be amazing and this cast wouldn't look at you stone faced and dodge hard hitting questions like NOLA did. Instead they would know how to tell an interesting story. They just need to stop being STUPID and give it to us. The cast has done all the footwork at contacting everyone to see if they're interested. Just do it and have possibly the best Homecoming to date.
Flora's husband DIED?! DURING production?!!! Whoa, RIP. Also, I just remembered who Cynthia was from her appearance in Battle of the Sexes 2 where she was voted out by Robin instead of the majority's pick Angela. Before Cynthia was to leave in the minivan, Aneesa and Coral were forming a ruckus over the decision but Cynthia didn't really care either way.
No Flora married Mitchell who was on Miami after the season aired. She later divorced and married someone else who passed away. That wasn't a part of The Real World. It was several years after the show had filmed. He was also the father of her daughter.
RIP to Flora's other husband.
Perfectly said! We NEED a Miami Homecoming if they want to continue on with the series. All of us fans know that a RW Miami Homecoming WILL deliver! Flora, Melissa, Dan, Sarah, Cynthia.... we NEED them back on our screens!! I'd bet money that the ratings would be great so long as they promote it properly.
Seattle and Vegas were both asked.
Was all the limited footage of Charlie on what they chose to air in RW San Diego 1 all they really had? I know there was a rape inside the house that I think was being carried out inside the house but at the time the castmates *Charlie included since Frankie already left* were vacationing in Mexico. I just feel like Charlie was more of a missed opportunity for his season since even if he did one Challenge, he couldn't receive his full spot in the television due to some ******** who raped a poor woman and the cameras *supposedly* didn't catch a thing...
If you don't mind me asking what did he say on Reddit?
In BOTSexes 1, the only ones who didn't really care about whether Puck went home or not were mostly from the girl's side. IIRC it was Lori, Ellen, and Tonya. Heroines all, the silent group I would be happy to congratulate in not talking a stand.
He came off as rude. He told one genuine fan "one question only moving on". Meanwhile he answered multiple questions from other people. He also seemed out of touch and arrogant complete with the Hollywood business attitude. He said that the fans picked one of the castmembers on Hollywood which was a bad thing, meanwhile the one they picked was the best one on the cast. He came off as clueless. He also said Johnny Bananas is his favorite contender *puke*. He lost me with that one. Him & I just have opposite opinions.
And so RW Hollywood Homecoming might not happen all because Jon M gets his kicks from Bananas polluting our screens while the chosen one Greg could have provided us the entertainment Puck would had he not gone off the grid. Speaking of Greg, in an interview he said that with the exception of Joey who he felt was misunderstood he hated everyone else during his stay in the house. Especially Will who is infamous for the foursome he had with Dave and two girls which I guess expands the threesome that Alton had in Vegas 1. And Sarah who never was content with the people around her, criticizing their flaws so it would have to be a enduring soul that her boyfriend would have to be in order to tolerate her. Besides that, Janelle from Key West not only dated Will for a while but she also attended the reunion to confront his cheating ways and in one improv act, those two who shall not be mentioned from Fresh Meat 1 attended the event. As far as Challenge goes, Dave quit his only shot for a girl back home *loser*, Brittini dominated Duel 2 coming very close to winning on the girls side against veteran Rachel who btw I love her shorter hairstyle. And even Kimberly who nobody thought would destroy a lot of competition dominated for the time she was there. Nick was mild in his appearances either being the first one or second one out. Had Joey gotten the psych ok I think he could have done some damage but RIP.
What the heck are you talking about? The bulk of the cast said Puck shouldn't get sent home because David instigated it and then admitted that he provoked Puck so he would do something so he could send him home. The fact that they refused to go film the intro was because they took Puck's side.
BTW, in the first night Puck and Shane had a heart to heart which I felt was touching showing that he had at some point changed his views on LBGT+. That said, I really hunger a RW San Francisco Homecoming to see whether the hatred the rest of the cast had for Puck can be forgotten at least for Pedro's memory.
Oh really? I must have been extremely mistaken, sorry about that. I always assumed that because David got the opportunity for payback in terms of getting the change to voluntarily spit back at Puck but for some vague David went back on that offer and so Puck got to stay and David punked out with his "Am I in the Twilight Zone?" speech.
OK so obviously almost everyone in BOTSexes 1 was cool with Puck except David E. But I do know last I saw was that Puck would antagonize Ellen which would lead to her not attending his wedding wiith Betty, may I ask the reasoning of his behavior towards her?
*sighs* I can see now that I am becoming an extremely annoying stan of which I recently found out the meaning of the slang. If anyone can offer me pointers of what is the correct way of engaging in a convo specific to the topic, I am all ears.
The reason everyone took Puck's side is because David had been getting into a lot of fights and rubbing people the wrong way even before filming began. He got Piggy sent home after a fight at the pool which Jisela said was a wild fight. Then he started in with Puck during the spit fight. Also not shown was David spitting in Beth's face and then some of it getting on Ayanna and her going ballistic. So yea that's why everyone had Puck's back they were sick of David and all of the drama he was starting even before the cast shot the opening sequence.
As for Ellen and Puck they were just oil and water. Two strong personalities and Puck doesn't like people like that. He always had someone to pick on during his shows. In SF it was Pedro & Judd. On this one he chose Ellen. They kept bickering and Ellen didn't attend his wedding because she thought he was just doing it for more camera time.
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