Production didn't make dan silent anytime someone asked for his input on who the tratiors are, people tried to work with him and he ruined it. He played a horrible game by himself and the he's the only one responsible for his downfall.
Production didn't make dan silent anytime someone asked for his input on who the tratiors are, people tried to work with him and he ruined it. He played a horrible game by himself and the he's the only one responsible for his downfall.
This. Dan ruined his own game. Doesn't impact his BB Legacy but he was awful
They were sus of Dan and knew he was likely a lock traitor. His hands were tied. They couldn't edit Janelle, Sandra, and Trishelle knowing that production was going to chose him, so they just acted like it was because he was quiet.
John has nothing to do with Dan leaving. His only chance at saving himself was to throw a hail mary and expose Phaedra. He went down singing at least. Him and Parv had no shot and just had to hang on as long as possible, but they also made tons of awful moves. But when you are sus from day 1 because of your reputation and these ppl know production wanted Parv & Dan as Traitors...there was nothing right they could have done really.
Dan stupidly thought sendin gout "big players' would help his game, when in reality it just made it even more likely that either CT or him was the traitor. No, his only chance ot save himself was throw Parvait's name out there.
Dan could have done PLENTY, him refusing to say a name for 4 episodes is the worst thing a tratiro has ever done. and he got played by PETER. Dumb dumb dumb.
I normally like OS's opinions, but this constant defending of Dan makes them look like a homer
It's just facts. I said most of his and Parv's moves were bad but it didn't matter. This is why the newbies flopped, they didn't know how to pick up on productions habits. Janelle, Trishelle, Parv, Dan and Sandra 100% would have clocked Cirie as a traitor. Us TV vets know how production moves, I guess yall just can't relate.
I normally like OS's opinions, but this constant defending of Dan makes them look like a homer
It's just facts. I said most of his and Parv's moves were bad but it didn't matter. This is why the newbies flopped, they didn't know how to pick up on productions habits. Janelle, Trishelle, Parv, Dan and Sandra 100% would have clocked Cirie as a traitor. Us TV vets know how production moves, I guess yall just can't relate.
It's not facts. If he had kept Bananas around and not been an idiot refusing to say a name for 4 episodes he could easily skate by or have people think it was CT/Bananas as the traitor instead of him. It's basic knowledge not him taking out bananas bc he probably was jealous of him.
It's basic knowledge not him taking out bananas bc he probably was jealous of him.
Jealous of Bananas? What's there to be jealous of?
Dan has a career and family. Dan has a life and identity outside of being a 40 year old man called Bananas and throwing a temper tantrum like a child anytime things don't go his way. Dan doesn't look like a melting wax figure and probably doesn't have a 4 inch carrot. Dan is not jealous of that loser.
Man I think the amount of hate Dan is getting is a bit overblown. I don't even watch Big Brother, but I don't think he was trying to ruin Pheadra's game out of pettiness; I believe he was genuinely oblivious to how dumb his plan was.
Part of why The Traitors is so good is watching a GOATs like Dan flop using the same strategies that worked so well for him in BB, because this is a social game first and foremost; if you have to rely on strategy to save yourself then you've already made a mistake in your social game.
Dan and Parvati could've been the smartest individuals on the planet and they'd still find it hard to play this game because their social game isn't that great, especially Dan. I mean after Tamra got murdered, this guy was like "I was so sure about who the traitor was but this murder changed everything" or something along those lines, according to Bergie, so then Bergie and Peter were like "what is this guy talking about? Did he think that Tamra was the traitor?" Of course he didn't; he was clearly lying, and his lie was really bad, so all it did was reinforce their suspicions of him being a traitor lol
Also, I'm sure that Parvati would've played a better game had they chosen her to be the traitor from the start instead of Dan, but unless she found a way to lower her threat/suspicion level and befriend everyone like Sandra and CT did, she'd still get banished at some point when the numbers start dwindling.
Unpopular opinion I guess? I also dont understand why people are so up in arms with what dan did. If kierans move was allowed in uk1, why wouldnt dans be? Kierans was much better tv and highly entertaining, he really was king for that. Dans pales in comparision but hey, he was playing the game.Maybe my tune will change based on how this season ends, but I dont see a big issue here.
When parvarti was voted out, sandra took a shot and was telling phaedra how she should be a traitor, but she later found out that phaedra didnt want her because she was a "gamer."
Dan's game was terrible and basically sank him, Parv and Phaedra. His refusal to say any names "cause he's quiet and wants to study people more" just made him look suspicious.
Parv was playing a pretty good game until she allowed Dan to try to murder Bernie when they had plenty of other options. it made it obvious that it was either Dan or Parv who were the traitors after Peter told them about the shield and it put huge targets on both of them. She knew it was a trap for her but allowed it anyway, which was a terrible move.
Phaedra is playing a great game but Dan throwing her name out as a last ditch effort really ****** her over and made it obvious she was a traitor as well.
Idk what thread to put this in but for the sandra fans, sounds like she is going to be on another show in the upcoming future because shes hitting the gym nowadays and when they said "ohhh another show?!" She didnt deny it. But they also talked about how survivor wasnt using returning players this upcoming season so idk what show it could be
Idk what thread to put this in but for the sandra fans, sounds like she is going to be on another show in the upcoming future because shes hitting the gym nowadays and when they said "ohhh another show?!" She didnt deny it. But they also talked about how survivor wasnt using returning players this upcoming season so idk what show it could be
Hitting the gym as if she'll ever not be a flop. LOL.
So Davonne started doing recaps on this show and she said she is surprised that Dan returned because he has such a great legacy and that losing will possibly ruin his reputation. This makes me feel like this is the reason she refuses to return to The Challenge. Lmao she knows she had a really good season WOTW1 and probably doubts that she can replicate or do better. Oh not to get off topic mb.
I'm about to get hate but whatever, Davonne is not protecting her legacy. She is a terrible BB player and her stint on the Challenge was cute but nothing spectacular. She has a small cult fan following but lost a lot of them with her post show moves. She has no legacy to protect.
I want the Da'Vonne I knew and love from her first couple shows to come back. Ever since she won AFP on BB22 she's spent way too much time caring what Twitter stans have to say. I meannn I know it was all downhill from "**** you ***** cus I'm not even talking to you" but she didn't have to just fall off. BUT I actually have been listening to her YouTube videos and I'm loving them.
I'm about to get hate but whatever, Davonne is not protecting her legacy. She is a terrible BB player and her stint on the Challenge was cute but nothing spectacular. She has a small cult fan following but lost a lot of them with her post show moves. She has no legacy to protect.
Im speaking solely on The Challenge. She stated she would do this show, and I could see her doing BB every time they call her.
I want the Da'Vonne I knew and love from her first couple shows to come back.
This. I loved her BB17&18. I felt she had potential to be on my reality star hall of fame list. Honestly...I don't remember much of her from The Challenge but BB22 she ruined jer legacy for me. Then the way she moved afterwards was weird and I haven't kept up since then besides stuff I hear here.
Unpopular opinion I guess? I also dont understand why people are so up in arms with what dan did. If kierans move was allowed in uk1, why wouldnt dans be? Kierans was much better tv and highly entertaining, he really was king for that. Dans pales in comparision but hey, he was playing the game.Maybe my tune will change based on how this season ends, but I dont see a big issue here.
Me personally I'm not up in arms, I'm still enjoying the show. Do I think he changed the projection of the game a bit yeah probably but still enjoyable and I still think his round table hail Mary was epic in its own way lol
The casting on this is so good that even when we lose great names, there's still a handful of people left to deliver. I thought when Parv/Janie left I'd be over it but I CANNOT wait to see Kate as a Traitor and WITH Phaedra, that's going to be awesome! I hope Phaedra finds a way to keep surviving. Sheree is really the only person that has brought zero to the season. MJ is close behind but has had a couple lol moments.
I normally like OS's opinions, but this constant defending of Dan makes them look like a homer
It's just facts. I said most of his and Parv's moves were bad but it didn't matter. This is why the newbies flopped, they didn't know how to pick up on productions habits. Janelle, Trishelle, Parv, Dan and Sandra 100% would have clocked Cirie as a traitor. Us TV vets know how production moves, I guess yall just can't relate.
hmm I'm sure you've seen some curveballs this season from how you thought ppl would play/be versus how they actually played so doubtful of 100%
Production didn't make dan silent anytime someone asked for his input on who the tratiors are, people tried to work with him and he ruined it. He played a horrible game by himself and the he's the only one responsible for his downfall.
This. Dan ruined his own game. Doesn't impact his BB Legacy but he was awful
They were sus of Dan and knew he was likely a lock traitor. His hands were tied. They couldn't edit Janelle, Sandra, and Trishelle knowing that production was going to chose him, so they just acted like it was because he was quiet.
Dan stupidly thought sendin gout "big players' would help his game, when in reality it just made it even more likely that either CT or him was the traitor. No, his only chance ot save himself was throw Parvait's name out there.
Dan could have done PLENTY, him refusing to say a name for 4 episodes is the worst thing a tratiro has ever done. and he got played by PETER. Dumb dumb dumb.
I normally like OS's opinions, but this constant defending of Dan makes them look like a homer
It's just facts. I said most of his and Parv's moves were bad but it didn't matter. This is why the newbies flopped, they didn't know how to pick up on productions habits. Janelle, Trishelle, Parv, Dan and Sandra 100% would have clocked Cirie as a traitor. Us TV vets know how production moves, I guess yall just can't relate.
It's not facts. If he had kept Bananas around and not been an idiot refusing to say a name for 4 episodes he could easily skate by or have people think it was CT/Bananas as the traitor instead of him. It's basic knowledge not him taking out bananas bc he probably was jealous of him.
Jealous of Bananas? What's there to be jealous of?
They knew it was him. Next, move on.
Dan has a career and family. Dan has a life and identity outside of being a 40 year old man called Bananas and throwing a temper tantrum like a child anytime things don't go his way. Dan doesn't look like a melting wax figure and probably doesn't have a 4 inch carrot. Dan is not jealous of that loser.
4 inches is generous ::giggles::
Man I think the amount of hate Dan is getting is a bit overblown. I don't even watch Big Brother, but I don't think he was trying to ruin Pheadra's game out of pettiness; I believe he was genuinely oblivious to how dumb his plan was.
Part of why The Traitors is so good is watching a GOATs like Dan flop using the same strategies that worked so well for him in BB, because this is a social game first and foremost; if you have to rely on strategy to save yourself then you've already made a mistake in your social game.
Dan and Parvati could've been the smartest individuals on the planet and they'd still find it hard to play this game because their social game isn't that great, especially Dan. I mean after Tamra got murdered, this guy was like "I was so sure about who the traitor was but this murder changed everything" or something along those lines, according to Bergie, so then Bergie and Peter were like "what is this guy talking about? Did he think that Tamra was the traitor?" Of course he didn't; he was clearly lying, and his lie was really bad, so all it did was reinforce their suspicions of him being a traitor lol
Also, I'm sure that Parvati would've played a better game had they chosen her to be the traitor from the start instead of Dan, but unless she found a way to lower her threat/suspicion level and befriend everyone like Sandra and CT did, she'd still get banished at some point when the numbers start dwindling.
Unpopular opinion I guess? I also dont understand why people are so up in arms with what dan did. If kierans move was allowed in uk1, why wouldnt dans be? Kierans was much better tv and highly entertaining, he really was king for that. Dans pales in comparision but hey, he was playing the game.Maybe my tune will change based on how this season ends, but I dont see a big issue here.
Derrick is too much of a **** to play the Traitors. Never understood the hype of that person
When parvarti was voted out, sandra took a shot and was telling phaedra how she should be a traitor, but she later found out that phaedra didnt want her because she was a "gamer."
Dan's game was terrible and basically sank him, Parv and Phaedra. His refusal to say any names "cause he's quiet and wants to study people more" just made him look suspicious.
Parv was playing a pretty good game until she allowed Dan to try to murder Bernie when they had plenty of other options. it made it obvious that it was either Dan or Parv who were the traitors after Peter told them about the shield and it put huge targets on both of them. She knew it was a trap for her but allowed it anyway, which was a terrible move.
Phaedra is playing a great game but Dan throwing her name out as a last ditch effort really ****** her over and made it obvious she was a traitor as well.
Idk what thread to put this in but for the sandra fans, sounds like she is going to be on another show in the upcoming future because shes hitting the gym nowadays and when they said "ohhh another show?!" She didnt deny it. But they also talked about how survivor wasnt using returning players this upcoming season so idk what show it could be
Hitting the gym as if she'll ever not be a flop. LOL.
So Davonne started doing recaps on this show and she said she is surprised that Dan returned because he has such a great legacy and that losing will possibly ruin his reputation. This makes me feel like this is the reason she refuses to return to The Challenge. Lmao she knows she had a really good season WOTW1 and probably doubts that she can replicate or do better. Oh not to get off topic mb.
Lol yall still doing these think pieces on why Dan was a bad Traitor? I get it, yall cant think beyond the edit.
I'm about to get hate but whatever, Davonne is not protecting her legacy. She is a terrible BB player and her stint on the Challenge was cute but nothing spectacular. She has a small cult fan following but lost a lot of them with her post show moves. She has no legacy to protect.
I want the Da'Vonne I knew and love from her first couple shows to come back. Ever since she won AFP on BB22 she's spent way too much time caring what Twitter stans have to say. I meannn I know it was all downhill from "**** you ***** cus I'm not even talking to you" but she didn't have to just fall off. BUT I actually have been listening to her YouTube videos and I'm loving them.
Im speaking solely on The Challenge. She stated she would do this show, and I could see her doing BB every time they call her.
This. I loved her BB17&18. I felt she had potential to be on my reality star hall of fame list. Honestly...I don't remember much of her from The Challenge but BB22 she ruined jer legacy for me. Then the way she moved afterwards was weird and I haven't kept up since then besides stuff I hear here.
sorry for delay, I think everyone else pretty much sum up my thoughts on your comment bout it being productions fault that they flopped
Well. Yall are all wrong lol.
Me personally I'm not up in arms, I'm still enjoying the show. Do I think he changed the projection of the game a bit yeah probably but still enjoyable and I still think his round table hail Mary was epic in its own way lol
the one from the challenge? If so pass for me as well he's too US1Traitor Christiany for me lol
The casting on this is so good that even when we lose great names, there's still a handful of people left to deliver. I thought when Parv/Janie left I'd be over it but I CANNOT wait to see Kate as a Traitor and WITH Phaedra, that's going to be awesome! I hope Phaedra finds a way to keep surviving. Sheree is really the only person that has brought zero to the season. MJ is close behind but has had a couple lol moments.
hmm I'm sure you've seen some curveballs this season from how you thought ppl would play/be versus how they actually played so doubtful of 100%
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