The Traitors 2 Episode Discussion (Non-Spoiler Thread)

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Idk if this has been shared but uk season 2 will be on peacock friday

Reunion is gonna flop. Spoilers (nothing to do with boot order pure "drama" speculation from pictures) It filmed yesterday

Larsa didn't attend (didn't see her in any photos but I could be wrong) and we all know she was gonna bring the drama. Her ex also didn't attend

Dan, Peter, and Phaedra were next to each other in a large group photo and Peter tagged her. So she probably forgave them and had no fights.

Janelle posted a group photo with Tamra and Parvati so they have no drama. Parvatis scared *** had to come up with something quick to avoid getting dragged. Tamra confirmed on twitter they're on good terms

The only potential drama now is Bananas calling out Dan. Zzzzzz. Oh and attention seeking Janelle vs Ekin still has potential I guess. Hopefully peppermint drags trishelle I guess but that tea is so old. 

There is nothing to drag.  Trishelle was the better player

 

Reunion is gonna flop. Spoilers (nothing to do with boot order pure "drama" speculation from pictures) It filmed yesterday

Larsa didn't attend (didn't see her in any photos but I could be wrong) and we all know she was gonna bring the drama. Her ex also didn't attend

Dan, Peter, and Phaedra were next to each other in a large group photo and Peter tagged her. So she probably forgave them and had no fights.

Janelle posted a group photo with Tamra and Parvati so they have no drama. Parvatis scared *** had to come up with something quick to avoid getting dragged. Tamra confirmed on twitter they're on good terms

The only potential drama now is Bananas calling out Dan. Zzzzzz. Oh and attention seeking Janelle vs Ekin still has potential I guess. Hopefully peppermint drags trishelle I guess but that tea is so old. 

There is nothing to drag.  Trishelle was the better player

Trishelle has played well but she was 100% wrong and was convinced she was right.  Really the only valid criticism of her.  

Trishelle being wrong about Peppermine is a valid criticism, but Trishelle herself of course admits she was wrong and seemingly felt bad about it. How long can she continue to be criticized for an acknowledged mistake? I also feel like if John had been the one to go on that vote because Janelle called out his breathing, people would not still be talking about how wrong Janelle was for what she did.

Since that moment Trishelle has been right about basically everything, and she was able to build enough solid relationships to keep herself safe from both murder and banishment. I think she's easily been one of the best players of the season and would be a deserving winner. Of the people left, only Sheree would be truly undeserving. I don't think Kate deserves to win as a traitor, but if she somehow wins (which I doubt) I wouldn't be mad about it. MJ is the other shaky one. Trishelle, CT, and Sandra would all be solid winners (and for different reasons).

Trishelle being wrong about Peppermine is a valid criticism, but Trishelle herself of course admits she was wrong and seemingly felt bad about it. How long can she continue to be criticized for an acknowledged mistake? I also feel like if John had been the one to go on that vote because Janelle called out his breathing, people would not still be talking about how wrong Janelle was for what she did.

Since that moment Trishelle has been right about basically everything, and she was able to build enough solid relationships to keep herself safe from both murder and banishment. I think she's easily been one of the best players of the season and would be a deserving winner. Of the people left, only Sheree would be truly undeserving. I don't think Kate deserves to win as a traitor, but if she somehow wins (which I doubt) I wouldn't be mad about it. MJ is the other shaky one. Trishelle, CT, and Sandra would all be solid winners (and for different reasons).

If Jon was voted out and Janelle lead the charge she absolutely would still be criticized.  Especially by me since I think Janelle is very overrated.  Trishelle got a little bit lucky in "saving herself" from being murdered but luck is part of the game.  Sandra and CT have played the smartest games.  Trishelle's done a great job figuring out traitors but got lucky the guys were bigger targets.  I think Kate would be deserving.  She's played well even in a limited amount of time.  I agree Sheree is the only undeserving person.  

Trishelle is right a lot but she's horrible at explaining herself, that's her issue. She'll make valid points but the way she lays them out make them seen flimsy. 

Trishelle is right a lot but she's horrible at explaining herself, that's her issue. She'll make valid points but the way she lays them out make them seen flimsy. 

Agreed--she gets flustered easily which makes it tough to trust/believe her

Granted she wasnt there and its not like she would downtalk the shlw so take it with a grain of salt, but rachel said she heard the reunion was juicy and there was some tense moments

Reunion is gonna flop. Spoilers (nothing to do with boot order pure "drama" speculation from pictures) It filmed yesterday

Larsa didn't attend (didn't see her in any photos but I could be wrong) and we all know she was gonna bring the drama. Her ex also didn't attend

Dan, Peter, and Phaedra were next to each other in a large group photo and Peter tagged her. So she probably forgave them and had no fights.

Janelle posted a group photo with Tamra and Parvati so they have no drama. Parvatis scared *** had to come up with something quick to avoid getting dragged. Tamra confirmed on twitter they're on good terms

The only potential drama now is Bananas calling out Dan. Zzzzzz. Oh and attention seeking Janelle vs Ekin still has potential I guess. Hopefully peppermint drags trishelle I guess but that tea is so old. 

Tamra and Janelle talk reunion on Tamra's podcast and said Larsa was there. Janelle sat next to her.

I won't say much more because it might be spoilers, but Janelle confirmed Peter and Ekin Su are together now and said Ekin Su getting murdered is what made Peter become such an adamant faithful.

One other thing they mentioned is how as faithfuls they only got 4-5 hours of sleep a night, so the traitors having their extra duties meant less sleep for them. I can see that taking a toll.

 

Trishelle being wrong about Peppermine is a valid criticism, but Trishelle herself of course admits she was wrong and seemingly felt bad about it. How long can she continue to be criticized for an acknowledged mistake? I also feel like if John had been the one to go on that vote because Janelle called out his breathing, people would not still be talking about how wrong Janelle was for what she did.

Since that moment Trishelle has been right about basically everything, and she was able to build enough solid relationships to keep herself safe from both murder and banishment. I think she's easily been one of the best players of the season and would be a deserving winner. Of the people left, only Sheree would be truly undeserving. I don't think Kate deserves to win as a traitor, but if she somehow wins (which I doubt) I wouldn't be mad about it. MJ is the other shaky one. Trishelle, CT, and Sandra would all be solid winners (and for different reasons).

If Jon was voted out and Janelle lead the charge she absolutely would still be criticized.  Especially by me since I think Janelle is very overrated.  Trishelle got a little bit lucky in "saving herself" from being murdered but luck is part of the game.  Sandra and CT have played the smartest games.  Trishelle's done a great job figuring out traitors but got lucky the guys were bigger targets.  I think Kate would be deserving.  She's played well even in a limited amount of time.  I agree Sheree is the only undeserving person.  

Well I meant the internet/social media, not just 1 person lol. Trishelle has taken a lot of heat (and still is) for the Peppermint thing, even though other people were grasping to any little thing as well. That was my point in mentioning John; some people thought John was a traitor based on a random thing, but they didn't get wisespread criticism for it.

I don't think Trishelle got lucky as much as she built solid relationships. Peter was a bigger target, but Bergie and especially John weren't bigger targets than Trishelle. In addition to the Peter alliance, Trishelle has been working with CT, talked to Janelle when she was there, was close to Parvati when she was there, and perhaps has been working with Sandra as well. So, Trishelle has stayed connected to many players is my point, which has helped keep her protected. That's good social playing. She has also been good at challenges, though I don't think those mean much.

Trashelle is really about to win this....

i would absolutely love this

Trashelle is really about to win this....

 

 

Trishelle being wrong about Peppermine is a valid criticism, but Trishelle herself of course admits she was wrong and seemingly felt bad about it. How long can she continue to be criticized for an acknowledged mistake? I also feel like if John had been the one to go on that vote because Janelle called out his breathing, people would not still be talking about how wrong Janelle was for what she did.

Since that moment Trishelle has been right about basically everything, and she was able to build enough solid relationships to keep herself safe from both murder and banishment. I think she's easily been one of the best players of the season and would be a deserving winner. Of the people left, only Sheree would be truly undeserving. I don't think Kate deserves to win as a traitor, but if she somehow wins (which I doubt) I wouldn't be mad about it. MJ is the other shaky one. Trishelle, CT, and Sandra would all be solid winners (and for different reasons).

If Jon was voted out and Janelle lead the charge she absolutely would still be criticized.  Especially by me since I think Janelle is very overrated.  Trishelle got a little bit lucky in "saving herself" from being murdered but luck is part of the game.  Sandra and CT have played the smartest games.  Trishelle's done a great job figuring out traitors but got lucky the guys were bigger targets.  I think Kate would be deserving.  She's played well even in a limited amount of time.  I agree Sheree is the only undeserving person.  

Well I meant the internet/social media, not just 1 person lol. Trishelle has taken a lot of heat (and still is) for the Peppermint thing, even though other people were grasping to any little thing as well. That was my point in mentioning John; some people thought John was a traitor based on a random thing, but they didn't get wisespread criticism for it.

I don't think Trishelle got lucky as much as she built solid relationships. Peter was a bigger target, but Bergie and especially John weren't bigger targets than Trishelle. In addition to the Peter alliance, Trishelle has been working with CT, talked to Janelle when she was there, was close to Parvati when she was there, and perhaps has been working with Sandra as well. So, Trishelle has stayed connected to many players is my point, which has helped keep her protected. That's good social playing. She has also been good at challenges, though I don't think those mean much.

But that's not why John was voted out.  Fans will always attack others when their favorites lose. 

Bergie and John were bigger targets.  Bergie was Peter's best friend and John was deemed more influential since Trishelle struggles to articulate things whereas Jon doesn't. Trishelle has played a really good game. Just not as sharp as Sandra and CT.  At least socially. She's been better at figuring things out but she's also focused on that as opposed to relationships which is the key to this format. Not criticizing Trishelle. I'm not a fan but she's played very well just not the best. 

Devontay will be at the reunion

 

 

 

Trishelle being wrong about Peppermine is a valid criticism, but Trishelle herself of course admits she was wrong and seemingly felt bad about it. How long can she continue to be criticized for an acknowledged mistake? I also feel like if John had been the one to go on that vote because Janelle called out his breathing, people would not still be talking about how wrong Janelle was for what she did.

Since that moment Trishelle has been right about basically everything, and she was able to build enough solid relationships to keep herself safe from both murder and banishment. I think she's easily been one of the best players of the season and would be a deserving winner. Of the people left, only Sheree would be truly undeserving. I don't think Kate deserves to win as a traitor, but if she somehow wins (which I doubt) I wouldn't be mad about it. MJ is the other shaky one. Trishelle, CT, and Sandra would all be solid winners (and for different reasons).

If Jon was voted out and Janelle lead the charge she absolutely would still be criticized.  Especially by me since I think Janelle is very overrated.  Trishelle got a little bit lucky in "saving herself" from being murdered but luck is part of the game.  Sandra and CT have played the smartest games.  Trishelle's done a great job figuring out traitors but got lucky the guys were bigger targets.  I think Kate would be deserving.  She's played well even in a limited amount of time.  I agree Sheree is the only undeserving person.  

Well I meant the internet/social media, not just 1 person lol. Trishelle has taken a lot of heat (and still is) for the Peppermint thing, even though other people were grasping to any little thing as well. That was my point in mentioning John; some people thought John was a traitor based on a random thing, but they didn't get wisespread criticism for it.

I don't think Trishelle got lucky as much as she built solid relationships. Peter was a bigger target, but Bergie and especially John weren't bigger targets than Trishelle. In addition to the Peter alliance, Trishelle has been working with CT, talked to Janelle when she was there, was close to Parvati when she was there, and perhaps has been working with Sandra as well. So, Trishelle has stayed connected to many players is my point, which has helped keep her protected. That's good social playing. She has also been good at challenges, though I don't think those mean much.

But that's not why John was voted out.  Fans will always attack others when their favorites lose. 

Bergie and John were bigger targets.  Bergie was Peter's best friend and John was deemed more influential since Trishelle struggles to articulate things whereas Jon doesn't. Trishelle has played a really good game. Just not as sharp as Sandra and CT.  At least socially. She's been better at figuring things out but she's also focused on that as opposed to relationships which is the key to this format. Not criticizing Trishelle. I'm not a fan but she's played very well just not the best. 

But Trishelle was part of Peter's alliance, and then she was working with CT, close with Parvati and Janelle, and perhaps working with Sandra too. How is that not good social play?

 

 

 

 

Trishelle being wrong about Peppermine is a valid criticism, but Trishelle herself of course admits she was wrong and seemingly felt bad about it. How long can she continue to be criticized for an acknowledged mistake? I also feel like if John had been the one to go on that vote because Janelle called out his breathing, people would not still be talking about how wrong Janelle was for what she did.

Since that moment Trishelle has been right about basically everything, and she was able to build enough solid relationships to keep herself safe from both murder and banishment. I think she's easily been one of the best players of the season and would be a deserving winner. Of the people left, only Sheree would be truly undeserving. I don't think Kate deserves to win as a traitor, but if she somehow wins (which I doubt) I wouldn't be mad about it. MJ is the other shaky one. Trishelle, CT, and Sandra would all be solid winners (and for different reasons).

If Jon was voted out and Janelle lead the charge she absolutely would still be criticized.  Especially by me since I think Janelle is very overrated.  Trishelle got a little bit lucky in "saving herself" from being murdered but luck is part of the game.  Sandra and CT have played the smartest games.  Trishelle's done a great job figuring out traitors but got lucky the guys were bigger targets.  I think Kate would be deserving.  She's played well even in a limited amount of time.  I agree Sheree is the only undeserving person.  

Well I meant the internet/social media, not just 1 person lol. Trishelle has taken a lot of heat (and still is) for the Peppermint thing, even though other people were grasping to any little thing as well. That was my point in mentioning John; some people thought John was a traitor based on a random thing, but they didn't get wisespread criticism for it.

I don't think Trishelle got lucky as much as she built solid relationships. Peter was a bigger target, but Bergie and especially John weren't bigger targets than Trishelle. In addition to the Peter alliance, Trishelle has been working with CT, talked to Janelle when she was there, was close to Parvati when she was there, and perhaps has been working with Sandra as well. So, Trishelle has stayed connected to many players is my point, which has helped keep her protected. That's good social playing. She has also been good at challenges, though I don't think those mean much.

But that's not why John was voted out.  Fans will always attack others when their favorites lose. 

Bergie and John were bigger targets.  Bergie was Peter's best friend and John was deemed more influential since Trishelle struggles to articulate things whereas Jon doesn't. Trishelle has played a really good game. Just not as sharp as Sandra and CT.  At least socially. She's been better at figuring things out but she's also focused on that as opposed to relationships which is the key to this format. Not criticizing Trishelle. I'm not a fan but she's played very well just not the best. 

But Trishelle was part of Peter's alliance, and then she was working with CT, close with Parvati and Janelle, and perhaps working with Sandra too. How is that not good social play?

CT and Sandra were never in danger. She was because she didn't have strong relationships with the Survivor or Bravo girls.   You're seriously trying to make the argument she was as good as them socially?  You're better than that. 

Devontay will be at the reunion

im happy about, I'd like to get closure on what happened to him

""CT and Sandra were never in danger. She was because she didn't have strong relationships with the Survivor or Bravo girls.   You're seriously trying to make the argument she was as good as them socially?  You're better than that."

 do you not recall Trish Zelle being w the ladies in the pool room after CT didn't pick her trust me they wouldn't have been coddling her if they didn't have some type of good relation w her...and Sandra playing a better game than her eh I don't buy it seem like half the stuff in sandy confessionals didn't seem to indicate she knew wtf was really going on but idk she's dull n boring so I hope she don't win nor mj or sheree lol everyone else I'm okay w 

""CT and Sandra were never in danger. She was because she didn't have strong relationships with the Survivor or Bravo girls.   You're seriously trying to make the argument she was as good as them socially?  You're better than that."

 do you not recall Trish Zelle being w the ladies in the pool room after CT didn't pick her trust me they wouldn't have been coddling her if they didn't have some type of good relation w her...and Sandra playing a better game than her eh I don't buy it seem like half the stuff in sandy confessionals didn't seem to indicate she knew wtf was really going on but idk she's dull n boring so I hope she don't win nor mj or sheree lol everyone else I'm okay w 

Trishelle complaining doesn't mean they're good friends. She was mad and would have vented to anyone. This game isn't about figuring out the traitors.  It's about relationships.  Sandra historically is the beat at that.  See Survivor. And she was on this season as well.  She even played nice with Parv until she was done with her. 

 

 

 

 

 

Trishelle being wrong about Peppermine is a valid criticism, but Trishelle herself of course admits she was wrong and seemingly felt bad about it. How long can she continue to be criticized for an acknowledged mistake? I also feel like if John had been the one to go on that vote because Janelle called out his breathing, people would not still be talking about how wrong Janelle was for what she did.

Since that moment Trishelle has been right about basically everything, and she was able to build enough solid relationships to keep herself safe from both murder and banishment. I think she's easily been one of the best players of the season and would be a deserving winner. Of the people left, only Sheree would be truly undeserving. I don't think Kate deserves to win as a traitor, but if she somehow wins (which I doubt) I wouldn't be mad about it. MJ is the other shaky one. Trishelle, CT, and Sandra would all be solid winners (and for different reasons).

If Jon was voted out and Janelle lead the charge she absolutely would still be criticized.  Especially by me since I think Janelle is very overrated.  Trishelle got a little bit lucky in "saving herself" from being murdered but luck is part of the game.  Sandra and CT have played the smartest games.  Trishelle's done a great job figuring out traitors but got lucky the guys were bigger targets.  I think Kate would be deserving.  She's played well even in a limited amount of time.  I agree Sheree is the only undeserving person.  

Well I meant the internet/social media, not just 1 person lol. Trishelle has taken a lot of heat (and still is) for the Peppermint thing, even though other people were grasping to any little thing as well. That was my point in mentioning John; some people thought John was a traitor based on a random thing, but they didn't get wisespread criticism for it.

I don't think Trishelle got lucky as much as she built solid relationships. Peter was a bigger target, but Bergie and especially John weren't bigger targets than Trishelle. In addition to the Peter alliance, Trishelle has been working with CT, talked to Janelle when she was there, was close to Parvati when she was there, and perhaps has been working with Sandra as well. So, Trishelle has stayed connected to many players is my point, which has helped keep her protected. That's good social playing. She has also been good at challenges, though I don't think those mean much.

But that's not why John was voted out.  Fans will always attack others when their favorites lose. 

Bergie and John were bigger targets.  Bergie was Peter's best friend and John was deemed more influential since Trishelle struggles to articulate things whereas Jon doesn't. Trishelle has played a really good game. Just not as sharp as Sandra and CT.  At least socially. She's been better at figuring things out but she's also focused on that as opposed to relationships which is the key to this format. Not criticizing Trishelle. I'm not a fan but she's played very well just not the best. 

But Trishelle was part of Peter's alliance, and then she was working with CT, close with Parvati and Janelle, and perhaps working with Sandra too. How is that not good social play?

CT and Sandra were never in danger. She was because she didn't have strong relationships with the Survivor or Bravo girls.   You're seriously trying to make the argument she was as good as them socially?  You're better than that. 

Trishelle hasn't had a single vote against her in terms of banishment. CT has had multiple votes against him (Larsa early on and of course Phaedra). Also Trishelle does have a strong relationship with the Survivor girls; she was one of Parvati's closest allies in the house, and Janelle told us Trishelle was working with Sandra early on in the 'gamers' alliance. Sandra has never targeted Trishelle.

""CT and Sandra were never in danger. She was because she didn't have strong relationships with the Survivor or Bravo girls.   You're seriously trying to make the argument she was as good as them socially?  You're better than that."

 do you not recall Trish Zelle being w the ladies in the pool room after CT didn't pick her trust me they wouldn't have been coddling her if they didn't have some type of good relation w her...and Sandra playing a better game than her eh I don't buy it seem like half the stuff in sandy confessionals didn't seem to indicate she knew wtf was really going on but idk she's dull n boring so I hope she don't win nor mj or sheree lol everyone else I'm okay w 

Yeah for some reason Sandra is getting more credit than she deserves. The pool table thing was good, but that didn't actually come to fruition. Also we have knowledge that she didn't think Parvati was a traitor (at least for awhile) and at some point thought Peter and Bergie were traitors. Her best move has been getting close to the Housewives which has helped protect her, but Trishelle has definitely had better reads than Sandra.

If I created a thread can I ban certain people from it?

I agree with whoever said that Trishelle had good reads but was bad as explaining them. I just also want to point out that, yes her arguments always seemed shaky, but another huge mistake she was making was coming off so aggressive to the housewives.

Phaedra could've been voted out one banishment earlier if she hadn't gotten so aggressive with them.  

Peter and Trishelle really liked to act smug as hell at the banishments. Even if I thought they were right, I wouldn't have been inclined to vote with them.

If I created a thread can I ban certain people from it?

you can do whatever you want, King.

I agree with whoever said that Trishelle had good reads but was bad as explaining them. I just also want to point out that, yes her arguments always seemed shaky, but another huge mistake she was making was coming off so aggressive to the housewives.

Phaedra could've been voted out one banishment earlier if she hadn't gotten so aggressive with them.  

Peter and Trishelle really liked to act smug as hell at the banishments. Even if I thought they were right, I wouldn't have been inclined to vote with them.

Well said

The reality is no one has played flaw free in season 2 like Cirie did in season 1. Everyone has either had a bad read at some point, said too much or too little, etc. Someone doesn't have to play flaw free to play a good game, though.

Trishelle has been one of the best players (if not the best player) this season so she deserves the W if she wins. Can't believe she's still getting hate for the Peppermint thing. 

The reality is no one has played flaw free in season 2 like Cirie did in season 1. Everyone has either had a bad read at some point, said too much or too little, etc. Someone doesn't have to play flaw free to play a good game, though.

This right here. I think a lot of the players played well with what they had, although all had their faults. It was an enjoyable season, but I still hope that production makes some minor tweaks for the next.

One thing is for sure a full cast of reality stars >>>>>> half the cast of randoms that don't understand gameplay and get hurt because people are playing "dirty" 

I agree. Au and UK have been entertaining, but they definitely play emotionally. So they need to keep it either all celebs or all normal people. No mix.

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