The Challenge: Battle of the Exes - Spoiler Discussion

[QUOTE=Blue123;285215]Yeah and her too, who is her partner? Abram? She said he wouldnt do one with her, then is it her and Wes? But its not rivals too so I'm confused maybe it's not a partner thing at all? And any update on the Adam R thing? Heather basically said Nany didnt back out because of him so was she saying Nany backed out for a different reason or that Nany is still going? Also who is speculated so far?[/QUOTE] Abe may do a challenge if he knew he wouldnt be on the same team as Cara. Heather tweeted "I love you" to Nany right before she said that Nany didnt back out on Adam, I'm thinking Nany may have had something personal happen and decided not to do the challenge. From what I have seen on Facebook and Twitter the ones that I would speculate would be: Dustin, Heather, Priscilla, Mark, Robin, Wes, Johnny, Paula, Mandi, Sarah, Cara Maria....and of course because the theme seems to be hookups whoever you want to speculate their "hookup" is.

I think the main alliance, if the game allows it, will probably be Johnny/Abram/Mark/Rachel and MAYBE Wes. Johnny is friends with Mark and Abram, Mark and Abram are friends with Rachel.

[QUOTE=cystic;286244]Why can't BMP just encompass the entire theme into "Castmembers Who At One Time or Another Showed Their Legs to Each Other"? :unknw:[/QUOTE] While that is what it looks like some of these pairings are, I imagine they are going to try to make it more about staying together and getting back together through the Challenges. It seems like anytime there is a romance in the air be it the steak or the sizzle, ratings jump a little, so why not do a whole season just around that (or so I suspect their logic goes).

[QUOTE=JTymon24;286747]Does any1 know what a likely format is going to be for the show[/QUOTE] Nobody is going to answer your question if you keep typing like this :S. But I'll be nice and answer anyways, if you read the spoiler thread you would realize that the format isn't known yet. We do know that the theme is couples/hook-ups/exes.

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I'm with you on that one Iron Clyde. I sure hope so too.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;290591]What's wrong with asking? I just don't understand that. Anyway, I can see this challenge flopping. Do they really wanna air the show right around the new Idol? But on the other hand I don't want them to sit on it for month after month either.[/QUOTE] What in the world does a new challenge have to do with American Idol?

[QUOTE=Euroslavia;283432]HIV is a virus, not a disease.[/QUOTE] He or she wrote disease . So I reply using the same words, I didn't noticed my bad.

[QUOTE=molds13;285222]I imagine a more likely scenario would be that each pair of a hookup is on opposite teams...setting couples/exes/hookups up against each other? What could bring more drama?[/QUOTE] That's what I've been thinking. I'm still not convinced that it's an "Exes and Hookups" theme. But if it is, I don't think it will be another season with with Two-Person Teams.

[QUOTE=JL81790;285477]Oh God...Katie... I'd like to see Katie ACTUALLY get power in the game and see what she does with it...rather than talk about getting power in the game the entire time but never actually do so. If it is a game based around past relationships though isn't Katie pretty much a no go? I don't think she's ever had a "showmance" unless I'm forgetting something. I'm hoping for Cohutta. Cohutta, Mark and Dan Walsh are my two favorite non-regulars and Dan didn't even get an availability call for this one.[/QUOTE] Although, I don't think they were a couple on Gauntlet 2, Katie & Seattle David were together for a spell.

We dont even know the teams yet, there is no telling who is with who.

[QUOTE=cystic;286244]Why can't BMP just encompass the entire theme into "Castmembers Who At One Time or Another Showed Their Legs to Each Other"? :unknw:[/QUOTE] Lol you know what screw Camilla, Johnny and Ev could be a "hookup" since they have kissed a few times lmao, once on camera on the island and apparently again on rivals off camera.

[QUOTE=Kaylee27;286495]I'm excited about the majority of this cast. It's a pretty good mix of old & new people. Of course I could do without some people (Paula & Dunbar, Wes/Mandi). Curious to see how some of the exes will interact-- [B]mainly CT/Diem and Mark/Robin[/B]. I think there will be a lot of tension & drama, especially if any new hookups occur. I'm interested to learn exactly what the format is. I don't think it's a partner situation like Rivals, but the exes gameplay is probably somehow intertwined. Otherwise, what's the point? I can't wait to see who the first eliminations are, since that might be a big clue of the format.[/QUOTE] I could be way off here, but I got the impression Mark and Robin have remained friends since dating. On one of Derrick's podcasts -- when Robin and her son came up as topic of conversation -- I think I remember Mark saying how she's doing really well, etc. Then of course Kenny or Johnny or Evan (can't remember which ****** it was) decided to make the conversation less mature and discussed how Mark was probably the father. Anyhow - I get the impression Mark and Robin are on OK terms. As for CT and Diem - not so sure and I can't wait to see how they interact.

I think it's so funny how people group Leroy in with the likes of Mark, Wes, Johnny, CT, and Abram lol. He has not done anything as impressive as those guys in the one challenge he's been on. Leroy is down there with Dunbar imo, he's just more likable. And ClubSandwish, i doubt he's making moves to get anyone eliminated, he just goes with the flow and does what everyone else is doing.

[QUOTE=jones10389;289283][B]Mark has earned the right to never be called out[/B]. I don't think Mark is shady i think he plays as fairly as possible. I don't think he is boring either he is pretty funny imo and for being 40 he can beat 99 percent of the guys on this show in a 1 on 1. CT would be tuff but i don't think its impossible for Mark to beat him.[/QUOTE] Nobody "earns" the right to never be called out. Regardless of how he plays.

[QUOTE=molds13;290597]I don't like answering questions more than once. If I get seven different people asking me "WHEN R U GONNA POST TEH SPOILERZ", I'm done. People need to do the legwork before asking questions that do nothing more than clog the thread.[/QUOTE] True. But I like the way you do it anyways so keep up the good work. The fomat in which you do it as well is awesome. I just say with groundbreaking stuff it should be noted in the first post of the thread as a sort of guide/legend. [QUOTE=El Scorcho;290601]What in the world does a new challenge have to do with American Idol?[/QUOTE] I'm referring to watching a 2 hour American Idol on Fox then going to MTV and watching a 1 Hour episode of The Challenge upon other things. They don't necessarily "have to do" with each other. Just like right now, I'm watch a 90 minute X-Factor but I'm not going to watch the finale of San Diego and then TSTSHS. But that could just be me.

[QUOTE=Blue123;285479]I think Paula always looks like a crazy person when shes dealing with Dunbar. Dunbar always looks like the mature one, like on the Island it was his key that was taken and he was the one that was screwed by Kenny/Johnny but it was Paula that was crying hysterically over it, then on cutthroat she whines that Dunbar screwed her over even though she voted him in.[/QUOTE] Hahahaha Idk that might have been because she got screwed out of a ton of money by her "best friends" for someone that they hated the whole time....that mighta had something to do with it

[QUOTE=LaneV95;285718]Okay.. I was talking about CT on Rivals not Adam on Las Vegas lol.[B] I must have replied to the wrong post[/B]?[/QUOTE] Oh, I was wondering what you were talking about. Yeah you did haha, I think Gucci Mane was talking about Adam R., not CT. On another note, Cara Maria's reaction was quite the hypocritical. She says people are mean for no good reason and bla bla bla, but then she goes and calls Adam out on Twitter, when the issue isn't even about her. How is that not provocation?

I'm feeling a huge Fresh Meat 1 vibe for this season. Austin kids have a target, Vegas kids. And for most of the Vegas cast, it was their first season. Same with Austin.

Until we know the format I can't say who should win. I mean if it is something to be paired with your ex that puts a lot of teams at a disadvantage. Mark is screwed, Jasmine is screwed even though I have never seen her compete I'm going out on a limb and saying Leroy would be screwed.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;288798]I'd probably assume Thanksgiving.[/QUOTE] I dont think they care about thanksgiving, they might be traveling. Last time when they moved it took about a week. I hope they dont travel on this one, last time it was pointless and made taping longer.

[QUOTE=bombshell917;283429]Yes they need to get shots before traveling for the challenges. HIV the virus, a test for it is a new requirement. psychological test i a new requirement too and some people are "SPECULATING" that it have something to deal with the next challenge format. Like the craziesvs the good guys Which is pure speculation till they leave and Molds confirm the cast and real format[/QUOTE] Ohh I see, and yes I wrote disease (the "v" in HIV stands for virus, viruses cause disease so HIV is a disease, disease is anything that messes with the body). Crazies vs good guys, thats kind of insulting lmao I dont think CT would like being called that. I know I woulnt at least use a nicer synonym, like on I3 they called them bad ***** not ****** bags. And if you guys are referring to Wes' ***** getting paid to take STD test tweet, I dont know if he was talking about himself. Damn I hope the challenge will start filming already!! I wana know who is on it now!

[QUOTE=TSPKM2;285483]Hahahaha Idk that might have been because she got screwed out of a ton of money by her "best friends" for someone that they hated the whole time....that mighta had something to do with it[/QUOTE] Lol well I guess that was her mindset during the reunion, we wont go through the details of the island but imo only Dunbar was screwed over, she still looked crazy on the cutthroat reunion saying Dunbar effed her over, bring back Dunbar and not Paula :P oh and if Couhatta isnt there and Wes goes with Mandi then Dunbar can go with KA, they're always amusing also.

I think the possible concept could be a "Ball & Chain" type scenario, where a male or female's performance in a challenge could actually send their counterpart into the elimination round. For example, Mark and Robin are counterparts and if she loses a challenge, Mark has to go into the elimination round? I think it could be an interesting twist.

[QUOTE=jesses_girl;287530]I think it's so funny how people group Leroy in with the likes of Mark, Wes, Johnny, CT, and Abram lol. He has not done anything as impressive as those guys in the one challenge he's been on. Leroy is down there with Dunbar imo, he's just more likable. And ClubSandwish, i doubt he's making moves to get anyone eliminated, he just goes with the flow and does what everyone else is doing.[/QUOTE] Leroy has only done 1 challenge, so we have room to imagine :D. But more so than that, he did "average" (and I'm saying that as generous as possible in the challenges on Rivals, and pulled out some Alton climbing skills when it came down in the clutch. Plus he was probably the only man in the house (as editing would have us believe) not scared of C.T. the entire challenge. He hasn't given us any reason not to give faith in his athletic ability.

[QUOTE=Blue123;288035]This is ridiculous, could they really not find another couple? This thing isnt sounding like its going to be very physical and no men on men eliminations sounds ******** to me. The best eliminations were guy on guy physical contact and it sucks that we might not be seeing anything like that with this stacked guy's cast. They might as well make it like FM and just do exiles, which might be what their doing but imo that's not as entertaining to watch. Maybe it's not partners but you're somehow tethered to your hookup, I just cant see 2 girls competing with men.[/QUOTE] I am not saying anything for a fact, but there appears to be a 2 female team and I cannot think of any way they could have them compete in a physical contact elimination without making special rules just for them. Likewise if there were another 2 female team, would it be fair if one won and one went into an elimination, it would not be fair to the winner and after 1 went home, who would they get physical with next?

[QUOTE=Jenspiffer;288464]I agree, but my point was more that when we thought it was teams, there needed to be even numbers of each gender so there could be male and female elimination days, but now that it's pairs, there is no need for that, especially because they are obviously fine having R/A go against guy/girl pairs. So it doesn't mean there CAN'T be a guy/guy team yet to be revealed, but that there is no longer any reason to assume there is. Whether R/A could beat a male/male team is irrelevant, though I happen to agree that they could, and not just those you listed. :) On a different note, as much as I am not a fan of Camila's personality, I actually think she is often underrated as a competitor, and I think she deserves to make it far based on the athleticism she has shown. I just wish it wasn't with [B]Johnny[/B] (who, to be fair, is also a good competitor, but has an inflated ego that makes me want him gone!). I wonder if they will do flashbacks of all the hookups (like they did with the fights in Rivals), and if so, will some never-before-aired footage occur with those two? Cause I feel like the average viewer would be confused with that pairing![/QUOTE] I'm willing to bet that production casted Johnny because he gives off good drama, which increases ratings. So they found the closest thing to a "hook-up" they could and use it so he could be on this challenge. I remember reading on here that Casey said she would never do another challenge after The Ruins because of her experience, so Camila would be the next closest thing.

I have no clue who's going home next. Obviously. Based on how pretty much all of the previous challenges have worked, I wouldn't be surprised if who goes into the elimination rounds can be set up by the alliances between the players. Seeing as how I think at least one person from each couple is in cahoots with one another, I think Emily/Ty and/or CT/Diem would be in the elimination round following Jasmine and Tyries departure. I could very well be wrong, and as the tags in this thread tell me, I probably am, but based on past experiences, I think my logic is sound. On paper at least.

Is it known whether or not Robin/Mark were in the finals since they showed up around the same time as the others, or is it confirmed that they were eliminated?

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;290602]I just say with groundbreaking stuff it should be noted in the first post of the thread as a sort of guide/legend.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://vevmo.com/f266/the-challenge-fall-2011-cast-and-6622/"]Spoilers[/URL]

Dustin hinted that he will be back on t.v. on twiiter. Did some digging and his local gym posted on facebook that he was training for the next challenge! Molds where are you with the scoop? :)

LOL that's true Hopefully most of the speculate cast are on it I am excited for the fresh faces: Mark, Nany, Ayiiia, Kelly Anne (hopefully she says yes), Veronica (highly doubt her), Priscilla Not so excited about Cara Maria, Wes, Johnny, Mandi It would be interesting if there are a lot of old school and newbies and they actually get together in order for the veterans not to control their destiny in the game. New alliances and rivalries will be formed.

[QUOTE=BillyBear231;283929]8 Add Mike to that list, i feel he would bring something to the game[/QUOTE] I would love to see Mike too but in a recent interview he said that he's done with reality television. Andrew and Ashley actually want to be on a challenge but are looked over in favor of Mandi, Brandon, Theresa, Luke, etc... Mike, on the other hand, turned down his Cutthroat invitation :(

[url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12004][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/43904eb0c09caa389.png[/img][/url] This could very easily be wrong, but this is just screaming to me that Evan and/or Kenny is on this one. [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12005][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/43904eb0c143d4ba5.png[/img][/url] Maybe we called Adam out to quick? Also, Nany's twitter is nonexistent, and Laurel has gone from (starting yesterday) 5-10 tweets per day to one yesterday and only one today... hmmm... What could this mean?

I'm rooting for all of the Rookies and CT, Robin, and Aneesa(only because those 3 haven't won a challenge yet).

[QUOTE=blackinwhite;287012]I know its been discussed before, but has there been any signs of Laurel being or not being at all on this challenge Mrs. molds? I'm just curious because she is one of my favorites.[/QUOTE] I don't think she's completely ruled out yet, but I saw she tweeted quite a few times today, and it's more personal tweets than general (or promoting something), so Idk....

[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;287503]I think CT conspired to get Wes out early as possible. Maybe they're on opposite teams and before Wes made Vinny to go against CT because he probably thought Vinny would beat CT and since CT and Vinny are friends back home this match-up probably pissed off CT and ultimately lead to Wes getting the boot.[/QUOTE] I agree with that. I also have another theory that maybe they are putting up Dustin every time they can... I know Jonny made some rude comments to Heather about her boyfriend's past careeron Twitter a while back. Watching these challenges and seeing the reasons certain people have for not liking/putting someone up, I find this believable. Even, though I do like Dustin, I can see him overstepping his bounds as a newbie BIG TIME.

[QUOTE=FishHooks;288044]I am not saying anything for a fact, but there appears to be a 2 female team and I cannot think of any way they could have them compete in a physical contact elimination without making special rules just for them. Likewise if there were another 2 female team, would it be fair if one won and one went into an elimination, it would not be fair to the winner and after 1 went home, who would they get physical with next?[/QUOTE] Well is it 100% confirmed that Rachel and Aneesa are a pair? Or is being assumed?

[QUOTE=townie;289443]I can hear his excuse already... "When you want to sit down and actually crunch the numbers, I make more money in my real life in one day than if I were to win 10 of these challenges. It's just disadvantageous to my bank account to even be here, so why would I want to stick around?" He'll spin it some way like that to make himself look good.[/QUOTE] lol calm down we dont even know if he quit yet, he has one of the worst girls there right after Naomi and maybe tied with Robin, Mandi could out run Robin but I dont think shes stronger and running wont do **** in an elimination. I dont think he stood a chance, he should have bribed Kelly Anne to do it :P Also he probably knew who his partner was before arriving there so I dont think he just quit because of that, might as well stay and keep taking your weekly check as long as you can, unless you have to leave or you'll get fired. And omg cant believe Johnny is still there!! He better not win this, if CT and Diem cant beat Johnny/Camilla then CT will forever be a loser, unless he rips a flag again or punches someone in the face then he'll be a bigger loser.

[QUOTE=V1man;290087]BTW, my friendship with her has nothing to do with MTV. The challenges don't factor in our conversations beyond the two interviews I twisted her arm to do for vevmo. [B]It's a subject she genuinely dislikes talking about. She far prefers to be taken seriously as an athlete, which is one reason she respects Emily.[/B][/QUOTE] And is also one reason I respect Evelyn (out of many). Never thought about it in this way, but that could be why I'm also a big fan of Emily. She seems to be competing for the right reasons, not to get on TV.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;290348]Is it known whether or not Robin/Mark were in the finals since they showed up around the same time as the others, or is it confirmed that they were eliminated?[/QUOTE] Molds said they were eliminated. I would believe her on these matters.

there needs to be more old school names on that list or it is gonna be annoying, just inviting the routine attention *****s

[QUOTE=BillyBear231;285485] This could very easily be wrong, but this is just screaming to me that Evan and/or Kenny is on this one. Maybe we called Adam out to quick? Also, Nany's twitter is nonexistent, and Laurel has gone from (starting yesterday) 5-10 tweets per day to one yesterday and only one today... hmmm... What could this mean?[/QUOTE] With the current legal issues BMP wouldn't put them on the current challenge. Plus Evan has Veronica(who has repeatedly said that she's done) and Kenny has Johanna(who I couldn't see coming back) as their only potential hookups.

[QUOTE=tjhallow;285719]Tyrie again...seriously.[/QUOTE] If he has really put in work and if he can come on the show and put up at least a decent performance as opposed to getting worked over like normal, I'll be supporting him. I hope he can turn it around and use his size to his advantage.

[QUOTE=RobbioRobbio;285996]I think the possible concept could be a "Ball & Chain" type scenario, where a male or female's performance in a challenge could actually send their counterpart into the elimination round. For example, Mark and Robin are counterparts and if she loses a challenge, Mark has to go into the elimination round? I think it could be an interesting twist.[/QUOTE] That's a really interesting idea. Also, could this possibly be the first season since Fresh Meat 1 where there will be nobody from said season?

I think Diem has a good shot at winning this one if it is teams, her, CT and Robin were all screwed out of a win on Gauntlet 3.

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[QUOTE=infamous;287532]Leroy has only done 1 challenge, so we have room to imagine :D. But more so than that, he did "average" (and I'm saying that as generous as possible in the challenges on Rivals, and pulled out some Alton climbing skills when it came down in the clutch. Plus he was probably the only man in the house (as editing would have us believe) not scared of C.T. the entire challenge. He hasn't given us any reason not to give faith in his athletic ability.[/QUOTE] The only guys who looked scared were JEKW and Adam to an extent. Leroy said he was the only guy who wasn't scared of CT, but other cast members said it was only JEKW who were scared of him. And that climbing thing is questionable, he did good but climbing a rope fast still doesn't match up with the others. And 4 girls beat him and Mike in the final lol