The Island: MTV - Speculation

[quote=V1man;30899]Just wanted to say that I figured out that you didn't figure anything out. But nice try.[/quote] You sir are a poet! ....and one I fully agree with in this case. ;)

i could see robin derrick and ka in a boat and jb kenny maybe dunbar or evelyn if they both stick around because i think that even thought they need 4 people to open the chest it doesnt mean they all have to be on the same boat....at the end of the opening credits there is a boat shown and we already knowt that there are three people in the sail boat from the trailer so it could be that only 6 or 7 people actually make it to the island and others are left behind

[quote=iLoVeVeVmo;30909]i could see robin derrick and ka in a boat and jb kenny maybe dunbar or evelyn if they both stick around because i think that even thought they need 4 people to open the chest [B]it doesnt mean they all have to be on the same boat[/B]....at the end of the opening credits there is a boat shown and we already knowt that there are three people in the sail boat from the trailer so it could be that only 6 or 7 people actually make it to the island and others are left behind[/quote] [spoiler]Give the man (or woman) a banana, we have a winner![/spoiler] [COLOR=Red][SIZE=2][I](Just don't give away one of those "Johnny bananas," we apparently now know where they have been...) [/I][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[quote=V1man;30912] [COLOR=red][SIZE=2][I](Just don't give away one of those "Johnny bananas," we apparently now know where they have been...) [/I][/SIZE][/COLOR][/quote] I have one word (sound) for you: eeeeww.

[quote=iLoVeVeVmo;30909]i could see robin derrick and ka in a boat and jb kenny maybe dunbar or evelyn if they both stick around because i think that even thought they need 4 people to open the chest it doesnt mean they all have to be on the same boat....at the end of the opening credits there is a boat shown and we already knowt that there are three people in the sail boat from the trailer so it could be that only 6 or 7 people actually make it to the island and others are left behind[/quote] You r the man or the woman depending on your *** for finally breaking the vaunted V1man. This is the first time I have seen him post with a spoiler tag since I have been to Vevmo. I am taken back that I didn't think about D and his closeness to R ......... good analysis. The only thing that sucks is that we lose the benefit of Q&A from Mr. Spoiler. I kinda liked the mental games he play with us on Vevmo. I do see that my suggestions of Kenny,KA, and Johanna made it to Speak Reality ......

[quote=iLoVeVeVmo;30909]i could see robin derrick and ka in a boat and jb kenny maybe dunbar or evelyn if they both stick around because i think that even thought they need 4 people to open the chest it [B]doesnt mean they all have to be on the same boat[/B]....at the end of the opening credits there is a boat shown and we already knowt that there are three people in the sail boat from the trailer so it could be that only 6 or 7 people actually make it to the island and others are left behind[/quote] I mentioned that a few pages ago. I think that's going to be our big twist. At least, it will be one of them.

[quote=Darock1713;30976]You r the man or the woman depending on your *** for finally breaking the vaunted V1man. This is the first time I have seen him post with a spoiler tag since I have been to Vevmo. ... The only thing that sucks is that we lose the benefit of Q&A from Mr. Spoiler. I kinda liked the mental games he play with us on Vevmo.[/quote] Sorry to confuse--I added the spoiler tag after moving V1's post from the spoiler thread to the speculation thread (as it was part of a larger speculative discussion). So V1man has yet to be broken, even if he did see fit to dole out a banana reward ;) But I somehow doubt you'll be losing out on more mental q&a games... there's still a lot that's left to unfold on the show.

[QUOTE=maybeshesright;30978]Sorry to confuse--I added the spoiler tag after moving V1's post from the spoiler thread to the speculation thread (as it was part of a larger speculative discussion). So V1man has yet to be broken, even if he did see fit to dole out a banana reward ;) But I somehow doubt you'll be losing out on more mental q&a games... there's still a lot that's left to unfold on the show.[/QUOTE] Given the possibility of an award error (e.g.: being given a Johnny banana), there should remain considerable doubt. What I intended to impart was only that Evelyn does not go home which is what I inferred from the poster's comment. That leaves numerous options with where her game can go: 1. She wins a key, and is in a boat, and wins in the end 2. She wins a key, and is in a boat, but loses in the end 3. She wins a key, but is not in any boat because there are more keys than the eight places places total in the two boats and she is left behind 4. She fails to have a key when it it time to get in a boat and is left behind 5. She is given a key, and is in a boat, and wins in the end 6. She is given a key, and is in a boat, and wins in the end 7. She is given a key, but is not in any boat because there are more keys than the eight places places total in the two boats and she is left behind 8. She is given a key but gives it to another person who may or may not be in the final boat, yet Evelyn is not eliminated 9. She wins a key key but gives it to another person who may or may not be in the final boat, yet Evelyn is not eliminated There may be more options, but surely you get the point. I've been informed that we do not yet know all the rules and neither does the cast at this point in the game (or everyone fell asleep while trying to listen to TJ explain the rules. Pity the crew member to had to hold his cue cards for that painful session.) Since we don't know all the rules, there may be conditions and events yet in play that move the game toward one of the options -- or not. PS -- one of the difficulties we are going to continue to encounter is that in the post above there is both spoiler and speculation. In which thread should it go? Should it be in both? Would people respond to it differently in each thread if it appeared in both? For me, this is much like trying to determine up from down in space when you do not have earth or constant gravity as a reference point.

does that mean the eliminated players are waiting on the other Island?

[QUOTE=LilysMom;31043]I was just going over the old spoiler thread when I came acrossed this What the heck is this all about?[/QUOTE] When that was posted by MTV it made no sense. It still doesn't, but I always try to have an open mind. We do know that except for Dave and Ashli, it was difficult to track the return to the US of those eliminated early in the show. We just may not have been lucky in tracking people.

oooh.. what a twist. That would mean our speculated winners could actually be eliminated!!!

[quote=LilysMom;31048]I don't think that is the case, when B puts that kind of info out there rest assured that he has done his checking to see if it is accurate.[/quote] I think that info was from the Island website, though, & merely quoted here.

[quote=LilysMom;31048]I don't think that is the case, when B puts that kind of info out there rest assured that he has done his checking to see if it is accurate. I do think though that this means a whole new game, and is precisely why we see the 4 people face offs, like the ball, or people in the trailer jumping into the water with their hands behind their backs.[/quote] maybe they battle against eliminated players.. the anticipation is killing me.. ;)

[quote=V1man;31045]When that was posted by MTV it made no sense. It still doesn't, but I always try to have an open mind. [B]We do know that except for Dave and Ashli, it was difficult to track the return to the US of those eliminated early in the show. [/B] We just may not have been lucky in tracking people.[/quote] Hmm... Could that possibly mean that Ashli quit as well? ... or it could mean that Ashli was easier to track than the others.. Haha.

Maybe the Ashli thing has something to do with the preview of her going at it with Robin.

[QUOTE=Phoenix;31052]Hmm... Could that possibly mean that Ashli quit as well? ... or it could mean that Ashli was easier to track than the others.. Haha.[/QUOTE] Yes, she was easier to track... (not good myspace discipline... she asked me to keep her informed on what was happening in Panama after she left). But, I think it was in June or early July that I mentioned that people should watch for TJ doing his usual high drama moment when a couple of people quit. We've seen one and will soon see another.

[quote=LilysMom;31057] I think V1 stated in the old spoiler thread that she volunteered to leave and TJ let her have it.[/quote] Oh ok. I must have missed it. Haha. Thanks LM! :D

[quote=V1man;31058]But, I think it was in June or early July that I mentioned that people should watch for TJ doing his usual high drama moment when a couple of people quit. We've seen one and will soon see another.[/quote] That's one thing I was wondering, was his little speech to Dave longer than they showed? Because it didn't seem like he was trying to stop Dave from quitting like it seems he is going too this time.

[quote=LilysMom;31053]I was referring to the spoilers B put out on the winners, not the quotes from the MTV website. Sorry for the confusion![/quote] oh, oops! sorry! i thought you were talking about this bit: "[I]Yup, each week three contestants do battle, and one leaves -- leaves for the other island, that is.[/I]"--which also had me wondering if players would return to the game in some fashion and, if so, how that would play out. i re-read your post though and now get what you meant. ...just a little slow on the uptake today ;)

I don't think this has been mentioned yet. Wasn't Paula's reaction that was shown for deciding between Johnny/Ev used tonight her voting Rachel off? So they likely aren't bottom 2 or whatever. Yay for my 1st post.

[QUOTE=Swim4life107;31148]I don't think this has been mentioned yet. Wasn't Paula's reaction that was shown for deciding between Johnny/Ev used tonight her voting Rachel off? So they likely aren't bottom 2 or whatever. Yay for my 1st post.[/QUOTE] Yes, it does appear to be exactly that. When BMP gets the video in from the production site, they begin tagging clips and building a file for each cast member. Ideally, that file should also contain a notation each time a clip is used in the show so that you don't unnecessarily repeat reaction shots or others. They missed this one, it was the only one they had of her, or they didn't care... take your choice as to the reason. But most importantly -- Welcome to vevmo and happy posting!

[quote=Swim4life107;31148]I don't think this has been mentioned yet. Wasn't Paula's reaction that was shown for deciding between Johnny/Ev used tonight her voting Rachel off? So they likely aren't bottom 2 or whatever.[/quote] Great catch!

I guess I'm not paying close enough attention to these previews.. I don't notice anything like that. Kudos to Swim4life107!!

So here's a thought...do you think they would ever provide a way for eliminated players to come back? Like in Big Brother where sometimes a houseguest returns? If so do you think it would be a thing where the winner of a face-off against current players comes back or maybe they vote to eliminate two current players and bring back the eliminated one? Does this make sense to anyone else?

[QUOTE=needsalife;31225]So here's a thought...do you think they would ever provide a way for eliminated players to come back? Like in Big Brother where sometimes a houseguest returns? If so do you think it would be a thing where the winner of a face-off against current players comes back or maybe they vote to eliminate two current players and bring back the eliminated one? Does this make sense to anyone else?[/QUOTE] That is a good way for BMP to save money on the challenge cast and still have enough people to make at least 8 or 9 episodes. Good idea.