Real World Cancun: Episode 5 - Discussion

She went too far... Then joey went too far. I see that her 'life' is on the line i guess? but she belittles Joey, then Emilee, then CJ? Joey's sunburn isn't a weakness? Or Emilee being an orphan? Or how about CJ's lackage in the package? They pointed out her weakness as much as she did theirs.

Hard to really like this ayiia character so I don't blame the guys for not liking her/or wanting to be around her, but they ought to be a little sensitive (fake or not) to her situation.

[quote=FreakinHilar;100994]She went too far... Then joey went too far. I see that her 'life' is on the line i guess? but she belittles Joey, then Emilee, then CJ? Joey's sunburn isn't a weakness? Or Emilee being an orphan? Or how about CJ's lackage in the package? They pointed out her weakness as much as she did theirs.[/quote] If you watch the Dailies, Emilee beforehand spouted out everything and Ayiiia retaliated. So, err wrong there. Belittles Joey in what way, Herpes comments? Oh lord.

I was absolutely disgusted with the display put on by Joey and CJ in tonight's episode. Absolutely disgusted. I was hoping they'd redeem themselves in the after show, but still are just as big of d-bags now as they were then -- at least CJ expressed the slightest amount of human compassion.

Ummmm some of you really fall for the edits....it's has been said time and time again...they push Ayiiia buttons first, she has nothing else to do but attack back.

I don't understand what's worse? To almost make fun of her problem? or to straight up tell her she does it for attention. Tell someone who cuts for attention that that is why they do it, and MUCH worse happens. Then they feel the need to prove themselves, like Ayiiia did tonight on the aftershow.

And ps: Ayiiia commenting on CJ's small ***** (which EVERYONE did I might add), and Joey's "herpe lip" (which EVERYONE did I might add) does NOT compare to them mocking her serious issue. Those guys are absolute pathetic displays of human beings.

[quote=FreakinHilar;100994]She went too far... Then joey went too far. I see that her 'life' is on the line i guess? but she belittles Joey, then Emilee, then CJ? Joey's sunburn isn't a weakness? Or Emilee being an orphan? Or how about CJ's lackage in the package? They pointed out her weakness as much as she did theirs.[/quote] The herpes was because he burnt her with a cigarette. Emilee and Ayiiia were friends then, Emilee said she didn't take it to heart. CJ's small package was probably a joke, lighten up. Cutting is a problem, a very serious problem, you go to doctors/therapists for it. They went too far, way too far.

This was a tough episode to watch. I know Ayiiia can be a big *****, but no one should ask where the knife is? after knowing she cut herself. I know she said to Joey he had herpes on his lip, but she didn't make signs and post it all over the house. He took it to far.

Edits? Right... calling CJ's **** a little piglet must have been edited in there. I wonder what he called her? (hilarous though)

Both are completely wrong Hilar. You would not want someone doing that to you period. I did not cut for attention.

[quote=FreakinHilar;101003]Edits? Right... calling CJ's **** a little piglet must have been edited in there. I wonder what he called her? (hilarous though)[/quote] How can you even sit there and compare a completely sarcastic and joking comment about a small ***** to purposely mocking someone's serious issue of self mutilation?

I'm not going to comment on the episode. What I will say, not everyone has to like Joey, and not everyone has to like Ayiiia. Don't attack each other for not liking someone's edit on a TV show.

Cutting is a problem to everyone who doesn't have experience. When you have a family member who cuts and you see the severity that IS NOT ON THE WRISTS, **** is real. we didn't know she cut anywhere else til the after show. OPEN YOUR EYES AND STOP BEING SO CONSERVATIVE!

[quote=producer88;100998]Ummmm some of you really fall for the edits....it's has been said time and time again...they push Ayiiia buttons first, she has nothing else to do but attack back.[/quote] I don't agree with this at all. I do think she is in instigator from what I've seen. My personal opinion.

Joey and CJ are two very sad people. I am digusted by there behavior. In a perfect world I'd hope they'd get black listed by the Alumni.

[QUOTE=FreakinHilar;100982]SPK, agreed. Wow... and Ayiiia too. I think CJ and Joey feel terrible right now. How were they supposed to know? Sad to find out that there's no closure on that for the rest of the season, she couldn't open up til now? Shame. My sister cut and it's very serious. Cutting the wrist is an attention thing. My sister destroyed her hips. Wrists are very visable, hard to say that's not attention... Once again, Team Joey. HOW WERE THEY SUPPOSED TO KNOW!?[/QUOTE] The same way Jonna, Jasmine, and Emilee knew. But Joey seems very heartless. On the after show at least CJ admitted that they were seeing a different side of Ayiiia now and admitted his ignorance with the whole cutting thing.

I think the topic of cutting is a very real thing and prevelant amongst young adults. They can relate to it hence relating more with Ayiiia.

[quote=FreakinHilar;101008]Cutting is a problem to everyone who doesn't have experience. When you have a family member who cuts and you see the severity that IS NOT ON THE WRISTS, **** is real. we didn't know she cut anywhere else til the after show. OPEN YOUR EYES AND STOP BEING SO CONSERVATIVE![/quote] What are you talking about? Seriously, rewatch the episode or something. We know that she cut herself in the episode. Honestly, do not tell anyone to open their eyes, when you are at fault of the same thing. They completely destroyed her, and she made little jokes that everyone else in the house did too.

I don't think it's wrong of CJ to still have doubts. I'm sorry, I don't.

i think the problem is that they all have pent up anger towards her from past issues. when she does anything that they feel is rude like when cj got upset they blow up because of all the past issues. They just keep getting in situations where she says a little comment her and there that is not necessary and than a big fight escalates. In a way both sides are wrong for holding in their feelings till their drunk and for ayii for playing innocent like she went straight to hot tub and didn't say anything. she clearly said let me see your p*** and that is what started it and she said she just went to the hot tub and did nothing. Both sides go about it wrong. alcohol and pent up feelings i chalk it up to

I think the reason they ganged up on her is because they literally couldn't take it anymore. They had to explode on her for all of the aggression they had been holding back.

Okay, my thoughts on tonight's episode and aftershow. First of all, I really realized for the first time tonight just how incrediably beautiful that Emilee is. Another thing I really noted about her tonight was how obvious it was that she felt really serious about the whole cutting issue. I was really glad she stood up for Ayiiia the way she did. Her interviews and such showed how upset she was by the whole situation. I actually really loved all of the girls this episode. I loved Emilee when she told Ayiiia at the end that whatever problems they had had were over, and she was going to be there for her. And the rest of the girls too... Jasmine was really there for Ayiiia during the last fight, and whether or not it was the way it was edited, I still like what Jonna did for Ayiiia during the first cutting instance. She seemed to stand up as a friend also. As for the guys, I don't even want to think about it, because I was such a CJ fan up until this episode, and he kind of let me down. And Joey, is a whole other story of disappointment. But I've come to realize that it's really just his personality. So I accept it. As for the aftershow. Man, I love Mark. He was a great host. And it's such a random thing to notice, but I really loved that he was holding Ayiiia's hand while she was crying. It was sweet, heehee. Also, one more thing. It really bothers me that the guys in the episode, and anyone in general would claim that Ayiiia (or anyone in her situation) was just trying to get attention simply because it was the wrists that she was cutting. It was said many times that that's absolutely not the reason or the situation.

We knew she cut her wrists. WRISTS! The professional therapist in the aftershow said it herself that cutting of the wrists is for attention. Joey called her out. I think that's pretty real, even if he did cross the line. no more personal attacks of other posters, i'm done.

Wow... This episode left me wondering who I actually like and dislike on this season. I didn't like Ayiiia before because I felt like she was making herself an outcast, but after tonight's episode I feel for her a little more. Oh and because I never come into the Cancun threads without saying this: Emilee <3

LOL I'm fighting with everyone on twitter right now LOL

I only have one comment about Joey, and that's if he wants to clever and funny with the postings on the wall, at least spell you're right. I think people are taught how to spell in elementary school, no?

[quote=FreakinHilar;101025]We knew she cut her wrists. WRISTS! The professional therapist in the aftershow said it herself that cutting of the wrists is for attention. Joey called her out. I think that's pretty real, even if he did cross the line. no more personal attacks of other posters, i'm done.[/quote] He did, and then she felt she needed to say she had cuts on other parts of he body. Whatever. I'm just saying... this is how I see it. I know we all look at situations and people differently.

**** the arguments, they should all just have sex with each other. make love, not war haha.