Yet another vote in the Sandra column.....SU told us that Candice may not vote for who we'd have expected her to.
And he says that Courtney goes off on Coach.
missyae:
[quote]If J.T. is going to be bitter at anyone it should be Parvati - shes the one who is responsible for zapping him with 2 idols at 1 tribal council. For those who think it was something that Russell H got his hands on 3 idols on 19 - just wait till 20 - you aint seen nothing yet! [/quote]
I figured all along it was Parv who idoled JT -- Russell probably goes to the Heroes convincing them that Parvati had a girl alliance and tells them he will flip and vote for her.
SU has explained the villain alliance structure:
[quote]The minority alliance is Randy/Tyson/Coach/Jerri.
Parvati/Russell/Danielle/Sandra/Courtney/Boston Rob team up to get rid of them, notice how they go one after the other.
Then Coach ******s it up for Boston Rob, and they turn on him. To only target Coach next anyway.
Boston Rob/Courtney/Sandra are tight thou. And Sandra/Parvati agreed to look out for one another as winners. And to tell leach other everything, and if the others name comes up, to let the other know.
The End=) [/quote]
[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;141230]Missy says that though Russell doesn't find [I]all [/I]the idols next season, he finds more than anyone else.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if that means that Parvati convinced Russell to give her one of the idols, then gave it to someone else to play when JT goes.
The only other thing I can think of is that JT planned on splitting the vote in case Russell plays the idol (and tells Parvati) and then he and whoever the other person is both end up playing it, turning it back on JT. That would be epic.
Maybe something like:
1) Russell goes to the heroes and convinces them Parvati is having a girl alliance and that they should vote Parvati
2) Parvati goes to old allies Candice & Amanda and asks them to join a girl alliance and that they should vote Russell
So, Candice & Amanda vote Russell, JT, Rupert & Colby vote Parvati, and the Villains vote JT. Both Parvati and Russell play idols and JT is gone? The only thing with this is that playing the idols is relatively useless. Maybe Jerri and Sandra try to take advantage of the opportunity to vote Russell and its 4 votes Russell, 3 votes Parvati, 3 votes JT?
[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;141315]Maybe something like:
1) Russell goes to the heroes and convinces them Parvati is having a girl alliance and that they should vote Parvati
2) Parvati goes to old allies Candice & Amanda and asks them to join a girl alliance and that they should vote Russell
So, Candice & Amanda vote Russell, JT, Rupert & Colby vote Parvati, and the Villains vote JT. Both Parvati and Russell play idols and JT is gone? The only thing with this is that playing the idols is relatively useless. Maybe Jerri and Sandra try to take advantage of the opportunity to vote Russell and its 4 votes Russell, 3 votes Parvati, 3 votes JT?[/QUOTE]
I think the fact that 2 idols are played is interesting. You would think that it points to two people splitting the vote, both of them playing the idol, and JT somehow going home at the end of it. But how it leads up to that, I'm scratching my head!!
Me too...there are a bunch of possibilities. I don't really blame the heroes though for not expecting any of the villains to have an immunity idol. Russell could easily go into the merge and say that he had to play the idol the night before to eliminate Courtney so he wasn't the last victim of a Parvati penicide. Maybe JT gives an immunity idol to Russell in exchange for Russell flipping to the heroes? His stupid move has to come into play somewhere in the story.
cuz:
[quote]jerri was thought to have colby rupert and coach in the bag if she made it to the end! colby and rupert stayed heroes till the end! russell turns danielle against her own alliance, saving rupert one more day! rupert than picks a fight with sandra in an attempt to save himself again! russell defends candice, and the girls in his alliance dont like this, candice makes it know that russell has promised her f2. the girls go against russell and vote off candice .[/quote]
I never thought I'd see the day where Jerri is a jury vote threat, nonetheless that one of the votes she had in the bag was Colby's....
SU has said that it is not true that Rupert picks a fight with Sandra.
He also says this about the heroes:
[quote]Candice, Amanda, Cirie, James get along great. JT/Rupert are annoying ******s. Stephenie is offered a spot in the foursome group, she declines. They target her and Tom W. Sugar stands out, and isn't too liked=( [/quote]
Damn....who declines an alliance? Come on Steph. I wish she would have gone for it, it would have been great to see JT and Rupert go early.
[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;142289]SU has said that it is not true that Rupert picks a fight with Sandra.
He also says this about the heroes:
Damn....who declines an alliance? Come on Steph. I wish she would have gone for it, it would have been great to see JT and Rupert go early.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, had Steph taken it then her, James or Cirie would most likely have made it to the merge and a hero would likely have won. So dissapointing.
If Stephenie had accepted the alliance, the merge probably would have been 8 women and 2 men. James probably wouldn't have made it anyway due to his supposed injury, but it probably would have been Russell and either Tom or Colby and that's it for the guys.
[QUOTE=ssseeeaaann;142323]If Stephenie had accepted the alliance, the merge probably would have been 8 women and 2 men. James probably wouldn't have made it anyway due to his supposed injury, but it probably would have been Russell and either Tom or Colby and that's it for the guys.[/QUOTE]
Which would have been amazing.
I went over to Sucks to read today but SU's spoilers are little sketchey to me. Is it just a coincidence that 2 of his very favorite survivors are Sandra and Parvati? hmm
[QUOTE=TSPKM;142359]Which would have been amazing.
I went over to Sucks to read today but SU's spoilers are little sketchey to me. Is it just a coincidence that 2 of his very favorite survivors are Sandra and Parvati? hmm[/QUOTE]I don't think he really shows as much bias as Missy does toward Russell. SU posted in August about how he was personal friends with Sandra and he knew she would be on S20 because he called and her daughter told him she would be out of the country. Given that he posted this, I'd assume Sandra would keep the spoilers OUT of SU's hands, so she's probably not his source at all. He really hasn't posted much about Sandra or Parvati individually anyway.
Either way, I actually have what I would consider to be my own independent confirmation of Sandra making the final 3. That's the only thing I got on my own, but I really see no reason to doubt SU.
I can only imagine why this hasnt been posted yet.
PARVATI is the immunity Queen (not Jerri as someone posted here). SU already hinted it wasn't Jerri, but some people here didn't get it.
The reason I said Jerri originally is because I had a friend who was corresponding with SU and he said he thought it was Jerri. This was a few months ago, however.
lol. You shouldn't try to blame others for your mistake. It doesnt matter how long ago it was. You posted false info. And you acted so proud like you had an inside tip. lol
Sandra must be overwhelmingly favored by the jury -- according to missy:
[quote]Unfortunately I think the vote on 20 is a runaway vote and if it is - its a shame mostly for Parv because she played her *** off again.[/quote]
[QUOTE=asamber1;144209]OMG Anyone can just copy spoilers from Survivor Sucks lol.[/QUOTE]
Then please, feel free to do your own research and get your own spoilers. Sean is doing us a favor by going through it all and posting them here.
[QUOTE=asamber1;144209]OMG Anyone can just copy spoilers from Survivor Sucks lol.[/QUOTE]And I always give credit where it's due....Sucks often has tons of pages to wade through. I like reading that board but not so much posting there, so I bring them here so they can be discussed here.
Also, Sean's posts are always quite interesting and knowledgeable, whether they have to do with survivor or any other show that is talked about on this board.
So with the original villain tribe alliances being:
Rob, Russell, Danielle, Parvati, Courtney, Sandra
vs.
Jerri, Tyson, Coach, Randy
I wonder if the way these alliances were formed had anything to do with the fact that the majority group all either won or placed second (maybe third -- won't know about Russell til next week), while the minority group never made it to the finals. Could be a coincidence, but could be an intentional strategy based on the way the first All Stars went.
Okay, here is some info I have dug up:
Sandra gets jury votes from Jerri, Rupert, Candice, Amanda and JT for sure. Courtney was not mentioned but she is a safe assumption for a Sandra vote.
Danielle's vote is likely Parvati.
Coach's vote is likely Sandra but a slim chance of Parvati.
Colby's vote was not mentioned.
Sandra wins because of her social skills and ability to get along well with the jury.
When cameras were rolling, Rupert cried about his children's foundation, but stopped the tears when the cameras were off and made comments about how doing that would help him win the fan favorite prize.
Whatever happened between Parvati and Amanda before the game is thought to be Parvati's fault -- Amanda is a genuinely nice girl while many of the players are wondering what exactly Parvati did behind their backs out there. Russell wishes he went to the end with Amanda over Parvati.
Russell & Rob didn't get along. Russell felt Rob was full of crap and apparently could not name the starting lineup of the Red Sox. Russell is the one who initiated the breakup of the original villains alliance by targeting Rob, he felt they had too similar of strategies.
Jerri & Colby got along this time around and it was her friendship with Colby and Sandra's friendship with Rupert that helped them get far over people like Candice and Amanda who would seem to be lesser threats. Colby was not the challenge beast that he was in his Australia days though. On the other hand, while Jerri tries to tone herself down at the beginning, her villanous self begins to shine through toward the end. She is in fact the swing vote that boots Rob and saves Russell, and she and Russell seem to get along.
Russell found 3 idols but needed clues. He was given a 4th, and also gave one of his to Parvati. Parvati might have found one on her own. Besides Tom, it appears these are the only two who had idols.
Danielle and Russell were close at first but she gets caught up in the female thing later down the road. When she left, Parvati and Sandra reaffirmed their bond and realized they needed to get to the end together if they wanted to win again. Parvati seems to balance between her alliances with Jerri & Sandra and Russell & Danielle.
Though Rupert doesn't necessarily try to pick a fight with Sandra, he does try to turn on her toward the end, but it backfires.
Parvati wins about 3 individual challenges and performed well in team ones.
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