The Challenge Series: RW/RR (Generic Thread)

[QUOTE=kkm5063;188160]Did anyone else see this? This is a note written by Laurel [/QUOTE] I just posted this comment in another thread... I just read that too and had to see what others thought!! She wants to explain herself about how the "editing" was cropped to show her as a bitter loser and that Carley didn't deserve to win, but then she writes this blog on facebook about how Carley did maybe 20% of the work, as opposed to Landon, and she should write a check over to Landon, and Carley suposedly used her money to have plastic surgery?????? I'm confused...was that blog supposed to redeem Laurel from looking like a b****????

I mean If you put Abe and Timmy in a Elimination I think you know who will turn out to be the winner.

[QUOTE=Aziz_Jones;188169]I mean If you put Abe and Timmy in a Elimination I think you know who will turn out to be the winner.[/QUOTE] It depends on what really.

[QUOTE=Aziz_Jones;188169]I mean If you put Abe and Timmy in a Elimination I think you know who will turn out to be the winner.[/QUOTE] Timmy basically beat Abram on the Inferno 3. If he hadn't ignorantly stood up and knock the glass out, he would of won. He was able to break through the thick glass floor before Abram did, and Abram was trying to smash through it long before Timmy got to it but couldn't, which showed Timmy to be stronger than Abram. Also Timmy[B] destroyed[/B] Derrick on the Gauntlet 2, if that were Abram vs Derrick instead, that event wouldn't of ended so quickly.

[QUOTE=Superboy;188174]Timmy basically beat Abram on the Inferno 3. If he hadn't ignorantly stood up and knock the glass out, he would of won. He was able to break through the thick glass floor before Abram did, and Abram was trying to smash through it long before Timmy got to it but couldn't, which showed Timmy to be stronger than Abram.[/QUOTE] Whether he did it on accident, it was ignorant or whatever, it is still his fault and the cause of him losing. I'm not going to start arguing about who is better but it all depends on what they do against each other. So Timmy broke glass faster, that doesn't mean he's physically stronger, faster, smarter, etc. then Abram. Now I'm not saying that Timmy isn't any of those things, but we don't know for sure.

I thought that Kendal on the Inferno 3 got my respect when she stepped in for Timmy who easly could of beat Leah. Timmy isnt horrible but I would go as far and say he was the best Road Ruler on the Inferno 2.

[QUOTE=Aziz_Jones;188178]I thought that Kendal on the Inferno 3 got my respect when she stepped in for Timmy who easly could of beat Leah. Timmy isnt horrible but I would go as far and say he was the best Road Ruler on the Inferno 2.[/QUOTE] Kendall on Inferno 1 and Road Ruler on Inferno 1.

For some reason I always think there's a conspiracy involving the 'Smash House' Inferno. Watching that episode a few times I've looked for the actual glass flying down when Timmy stands up and can't ever spot it. It's only when they do that slow mow replay in gray-scale with the glass highlighted that I notice it, but if you edit the video to that extent you could add in anything. I keep believing that Timmy won, but they created the DQ so that Abe could stay instead of sending 2 guys home that night. It's not something I've researched or given a whole lot of attention, there just always seemed something fishy about that Inferno.

[QUOTE=faceless;188175]Whether he did it on accident, it was ignorant or whatever, it is still his fault and the cause of him losing. I'm not going to start arguing about who is better but it all depends on what they do against each other. So Timmy broke glass faster, that doesn't mean he's physically stronger, faster, smarter, etc. then Abram. Now I'm not saying that Timmy isn't any of those things, but we don't know for sure.[/QUOTE] Timmy was a better competitor than Abram on the Inferno 1(also Holly stated Timmy and Darrell as being the "two strongest", Timmy being first), and was consider to be a better competitor than Alton on the Inferno 3 and was named team captain. Timmy was more impressive than Abram on his challenges, and was the only player that Mike the Miz feared to go against.

Firstly, I want to say that I love Timmy and wish he would return, but I know that will not happen. Now I'm not going to argue about whether Abe or Timmy won in the Inferno 3, but I know there are people who think Abe won, which I understand. I would like to believe that Timmy was the true victor, but that might just be because I like him more. I remember reading (or this might have even been said on the Inferno 3 reunion countdown) that Timmy was hurt after this Inferno. His knees get sliced up pretty badly, and had he been ruled the winner he wouldn't have been able to stay anyway. Perhaps that was factored into deciding the winner. Just a thought.

Veronica and Katie got my respect too. Veronica winning the most lifeshields and Katie winning the two eliminiation rounds she was in and also Coral she impressed me too

[QUOTE=Superboy;188181]Timmy was a better competitor than Abram on the Inferno 1(also Holly stated Timmy and Darrell as being the "two strongest", and Timmy being first), and was consider to be a better competitor than Alton on the Inferno 3 and was named team captain. Timmy was more impressive than Abram on his challenges, and was the only player that Mike the Miz feared to go against.[/QUOTE] Look, I'm not trying to argue with you or anything. I'm just stating that there are a lot of factors to consider. Example: CT is clearly a better competitor then Wes but put them in a swimming competition, I'd have to hand it to Wes because Wes is just better at swimming. How do we know there nothing like that for Abram and Timmy? You can like and think Timmy is a better competitor then Abram, go for it, I don't care, I was just mentioning that you can't hands down all the time give it to Timmy.

[QUOTE=Superboy;188181]Timmy was a better competitor than Abram on the Inferno 1(also Holly stated Timmy and Darrell as being the "two strongest", and Timmy being first), and was consider to be a better competitor than Alton on the Inferno 3 and was named team captain. Timmy was more impressive than Abram on his challenges, and was the only player that Mike the Miz feared to go against.[/QUOTE] I mean I know Timmy is a strong player but to say he was stronger than Alton I dont think so.

[QUOTE=iMichael;188182]Firstly, I want to say that I love Timmy and wish he would return, but I know that will not happen. Now I'm not going to argue about whether Abe or Timmy won in the Inferno 3, but I know there are people who think Abe won, which I understand. I would like to believe that Timmy was the true victor, but that might just be because I like him more. I remember reading (or this might have even been said on the Inferno 3 reunion countdown) that Timmy was hurt after this Inferno. His knees get sliced up pretty badly, and had he been ruled the winner he wouldn't have been able to stay anyway. Perhaps that was factored into deciding the winner. Just a thought.[/QUOTE] If Timmy would [strike]of[/strike] have just smashed the top glass out(the one that he ignorantly knocked out) with his fist, he would [strike]of[/strike] have won.

[QUOTE=Aziz_Jones;188185]I mean I know Timmy is a strong player but to say he was stronger than Alton I dont think so.[/QUOTE] He was just named the team Captain probably because he had the better strategies for missions. Captain does not mean strongest. Another example: Inferno 1 and Gauntlet 1, Mike was always looked at as the caption on I1 CT was better and G1 Alton was better.

[QUOTE=faceless;188184]Look, I'm not trying to argue with you or anything. I'm just stating that there are a lot of factors to consider. Example: CT is clearly a better competitor then Wes but put them in a swimming competition, I'd have to hand it to Wes because Wes is just better at swimming. How do we know there nothing like that for Abram and Timmy? You can like and think Timmy is a better competitor then Abram, go for it, I don't care, I was just mentioning that you can't hands down all the time give it to Timmy.[/QUOTE] In a elimination round, Abram could [strike]of[/strike] have beaten Timmy in something like a puzzle, but if it were something physical, Timmy would win (unless Timmy would of screwed up like he did on the Inferno 3). Timmy was a stronger player than Abram and this is fact (based on viewing the challenges they've been on). [QUOTE] mean I know Timmy is a strong player but to say he was stronger than Alton I dont think so. [/QUOTE] Timmy was just as good if not a better climber than Alton, he showed that on the Inferno 1 when he got a time of 37 seconds on the climbing wall mission, smoking every other competitor. And climbing was Alton's only true strength, if you look at all the lifesavers he won on the Gauntlet, three out of four of them had to do with climbing. Also on the Gauntlet 1, he beat LT in the climbing pole, and on the Gauntlet 2, two out of the three Gauntlets he won had to do with climbing. Alton was just a climber, and Timmy might have been stronger than Alton physically, as he showed on the Inferno 1 mission where he got across the wire with just using his hands, and on the Gauntlet 2 when he destroyed derrick.

Come on people I think the strongest people on The Inferno were on RR Veronica and RW CT.

[QUOTE=Superboy;188188]In a elimination round, Abram could of beaten Timmy in something like a puzzle, but if it were something physical, Timmy would win(unless Timmy would of screwed up like he did on the Inferno 3). Timmy was a stronger player than Abram and this is fact(based on vewing the challenges they've been on).[/QUOTE] Timmy is strong but people like Jamie, Alton, Landon, CT, The Miz, Darrell, Abe and Derrick plus Theo could take him out.

Lets not do this people. Superboy is a Timmy Superfan and nothing we say will change his mind even though I'm not even saying that he's bad or weak.

[QUOTE=faceless;188191]Lets not do this people. Superboy is a Timmy Superfan and nothing we say will change his mind even though I'm not even saying that he's bad or weak.[/QUOTE] I'm not a Timmy fan, i'm basing it on what he's done in challenges.

lol okay agreed

[QUOTE=Aziz_Jones;188190]Timmy is strong but people like Jamie,Alton,Landon,CT,The Miz,Darrell,Abe and Derrick plus Theo could take him out.[/QUOTE] I agree, but Timmy is with that group as far as being the best of the best. And you didn't mention Dan(RR5) and [B]Mark[/B].

I know I didnt mention Mark or Dan I forgot.

Why is everybody putting Jamie on such a high pedestal? He is very high on a lot od people's competition list, and honestly that kind of boggles me. He is a great athlete, but he has never done anything stellar. It was on 2 challenges with vote offs and one where he never went into a Gauntlet. I don't know why people lump him with Landon, CT, Mike, Timmy, Mark and Abram. Why do people think he is so great? (as person he seems great, but athletic wise he seems a little above average) Is there something I missed? I challenge where Jamie smoked everyone?

[QUOTE=Aziz_Jones;188189]Come on people I think the strongest people on The Inferno were on RR Veronica and RW CT.[/QUOTE] Holly was Road Rules best female competitor(everyone knew that). The only lifesavers that Veronica earned out of the four she won was for the " Don't Yank My Chain" and "Window Washing" missions. [QUOTE] Why is everybody putting Jamie on such a high pedastood? He is very high on a lot od people's competition list, and honestly that kind of boggles me. He is a great athlete, but he has never done anthing steller. It was on 2 challenges with vote offs and one where he never went into a Gauntlet. I don't know why people lump him with Landon, CT, Mike, Timmy, Mark and Abram. Why do people think he is so great? (as person he seems great, but athletic wise he seems a little above average) Is there something I missed? I challenge where Jamie smoked everyone? [/QUOTE] I agree, he wasn't too great..... he's not in the top ten all time, but he is top fifteen all time. He was just solid on all his challenges and in particularly the BOTS 1, where he was ranked 3rd on the guys side. Challenges like the BOTS truely showed who were the top dogs for the guys side because it was all about performance(expect for BOTS 2, with Eric making it to the end). If you made it to the end of a BOTS on the guys side, then you are a great competitor(again, expect for Eric). Christian(RR2) outperformed him in basically every mission on the Extreme challenge, and Colin outperformed him on the BOTS 1, but he still outperformed people like Antoine, James, and Shane who were all good competitors.

[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;188200]Why is everybody putting Jamie on such a high pedastood? He is very high on a lot od people's competition list, and honestly that kind of boggles me. He is a great athlete, but he has never done anthing steller. It was on 2 challenges with vote offs and one where he never went into a Gauntlet. I don't know why people lump him with Landon, CT, Mike, Timmy, Mark and Abram. Why do people think he is so great? (as person he seems great, but athletic wise he seems a little above average) Is there something I missed? I challenge where Jamie smoked everyone?[/QUOTE] I have no idea either. I think it's because he won the 3 challenges he was on but it boggles me too.

The reason why I put Jamie at the top is for one thing he plays the game fair and is very nice, he is athletic and strong, very smart, knows how to play the game and dosent get involved with alliances and pety arguments. He was one of the early challengers. He also likes to do extreme stunts and he seems like a cool person overall. Veronica won lifesavers on Balls out, Dont yank my Chain, Balcony Swing and Window Washing tying with CT as the most Lifesheild wins on the Inferno and plus she has won more Challenges than any other female competitor.

Timmy is a great competitor and IMO very underrated but he is NOT even in the same league as Landon, Alton, CT, Evan, ect. I would put him in the group with Derrick , Abram, Darrell, Wes , ect. when he was younger but in the end of his "challenge career" he was really not that great. The only reason he beat Derrick in The Gauntlet 2 was because they both played the one game that favored Timmy and the only reason he even came that close vs. Abram in the Inferno 3 was because that was a game that he a had 50/50 shot at and he messed up by not busting the top piece of glass so the W went to Abram and rightfully so. But I respect Timmy because he did bust his *** off on every challenge and he did step up in the Gauntlet 2 and went against Derrick knowing that Derrick wanted to beat David so bad he could taste it ( because David slacked off in the earlier mission that day and Derrick was pissed about it) and he stepped up and went against Abram and almost pulled off the victory, so he's got my respect.

[QUOTE=Aziz_Jones;188205]The reason why I put Jamie at the top is for one thing he plays the game fair and is very nice, he is athletic and strong, very smart, knows how to play the game and dosent get involved with alliances and pety arguments. He was one of the early challengers. He also likes to do extreme stunts and he seems like a cool person overall. Veronica won lifesavers on[B] Balls out[/B], Dont yank my Chain, [B]Balcony Swing[/B] and Window Washing tying with CT as the most Lifesheild wins on the Inferno and plus she has won more Challenges than any other female competitor.[/QUOTE] In the balls out mission, other competitors targeted you and you had no control over it......Veronica just happened to be the last person that Coral and Leah targeted, so she didn't earn that. Also Road Rules threw the Balcony swing mission so she could win the lifesaver, so she didn't earn that either. And its not all about winning, because luck is involved most of the time(Darrell would tell you). Veronica was a top female competitor, but Holly was the best female competitor on the Inferno. [QUOTE] Timmy is a great competitor and IMO very underrated but he is NOT even in the same league as [B]Landon, Alton, CT, Evan,[/B] ect. I would put him in the group with Derrick , Abram, Darrell, Wes , ect. [/QUOTE] Timmy was in their league, he was a natural leader and was just as strong as any of those guys maybe expect for CT. Also, Timmy was a better competitor than Darrell and Abram on the Inferno 1, and he beat Derrick(and he could of beaten him in any other Gaunlet expect for "Name that Coconut"). He didn't win a lot of lifesavers, but he was a really strong asset to a team. Even though he was average on the Battle of the Seasons, what he did on the Inferno 1 to the Inferno 3 puts on with the top dogs.

[QUOTE=Superboy;188207]In the balls out mission, other competitors targeted you and you had no control over it......Veronica just happened to be the last person that Coral and Leah targeted, so she didn't earn that. Also Road Rules threw the Balcony swing mission so she could win the lifesaver, so she didn't earn that either. And its not all about winning, because luck is involved most of the time(Darrell would tell you). Veronica was a top female competitor, but Holly was the best female competitor on the Inferno.[/QUOTE] All of the Road Rules girls on Inferno 1 were good competitors except for Katie. Holly was the best, then Christena, and then it would be a toss up between Veronica and Kendal though I'd probably give it to Veronica because of the life shields she earned.