[QUOTE=CzarEric;196365]Do you know this for sure? She said she'd keep coming back as long as she was asked.[/QUOTE]
I know it for sure. Beth is my business partner. She's been done with MTV for a couple of years and is busy with her daughter, her production company and another business venture.
Tonya is finished, too. Really.
Sometimes people do move on with their lives.
V1Man, I was reading old threads today, and in one of them, you said that BMP/MTV (don't remember which) told Beth she would be on the Duel 2 (this was when the Island was filming so we didn't know that the one after it would be Duel 2), but obviously she wasn't. Was that her choice, or did they not keep their word?
Edit: This is what was said-
[quote]Further, since we know with certainty that Beth is not on the challenge, having the next challenge as "The Duel II" would mean that BMP/MTV were going back on their word to Beth regarding her certain participation in any future challenge with that title. It would be a tremendous breach for that to happen. At the end of the day, I've always found the execs at BMP to be honorable.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Youssarian;196569]V1Man, I was reading old threads today, and in one of them, you said that BMP/MTV (don't remember which) told Beth she would be on the Duel 2 (this was when the Island was filming so we didn't know that the one after it would be Duel 2), but obviously she wasn't. Was that her choice, or did they not keep their word?
Edit: This is what was said-[/QUOTE]
OPD is correct in her reply to you.
Kenny is a threat in a hand-to-hand one-on-one situation. He is a good 6'2" and 200+ pounds, and he wrestled at the college level. Those two factors alone would make him a tough out in any situation like that.
On the dailies for Fresh Meat 2, it didn't look like he was having to struggle too much to manhandle and overpower Wes in their little wrestling match, and it actually looked like Wes was trying really hard and Kenny was just kind of goofing off too.
[QUOTE=townie;196583]Kenny is a threat in a hand-to-hand one-on-one situation. He is a good 6'2" and 200+ pounds, and he wrestled at the college level. Those two factors alone would make him a tough out in any situation like that.
On the dailies for Fresh Meat 2, it didn't look like he was having to struggle too much to manhandle and overpower Wes in their little wrestling match, and it actually looked like Wes was trying really hard and Kenny was just kind of goofing off too.[/QUOTE]
Right, he would do pretty well in a pure physical match, but he still sucks as an overall competitor. Laterrian and David(RW New Orleans) would [strike]of[/strike] have manhandled most competitors in a strength match, but they still sucked as overall competitors.
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This was on Carley's Facebook where she posted something about how Jersey Shore got 6 million views or whatever. Other people were saying Challenges > Jersey Shore and such.
I feel pretty much the same way that Nehemiah does. The show used to be a great way of seeing your favorite people from Real World and Road Rules on TV again. Then they brought in the Fresh Meat, which was the worst idea ever. It watered down the casts and gave us less chances to see our old favorites. And especially since the Island, it's like competing is completely secondary now. It's all about alliances, lying, deceiving, and backstabbing. It completely takes away from what the shows were originally about: competition.
I'm sick of what's been going on lately. You had the completely asinine format, living conditions, and rules on the Island that pretty much encouraged everyone to act like ****** to each other. The Duel 2 was a decent Challenge, but the "list" was stupid, and it should have been done out right at the conclusion of the day's mission, like the first one was. It got pretty predictable after the first couple episodes who was going to be the last people picked. Annoying. The Ruins put together a team that had 3 ******** who hated one other ******* on their team, and threw Wes into the Ruins 3 times purely out of spite. I don't even like Wes, but that was bull**** and they weren't playing fair, all because Wes was mad (and rightfully so) about what happened between Kenny and Johanna. FM2 Wes and Evelyn were so hell-bent on weakening Kenny's position in the game that they weakened their own in the process because nobody could trust them. I really hope this new Challenge is played as diplomatically as possible. Not having Kenny, Evan, Wes, or Evelyn on it hopefully will help that.
Yeah I have to agree with AJ Hill.
I have been watching since the Battle of Sexes 2,
my favorite seasons being (Inferno 2, Gauntlet 2, and the Duel)
I feel like a lot of seasons been done poorly,
I am a Big Johny,Kenny, and Evan fan cause I feel like they are entertaining.
But I feel a bit Annoyed with them being on every challenge. Now I feel like Im watching repeats of just the same people in the center of every episode!
After the Island, I thought Johny and Kenny should of took a break. (:
It's getting me fustrated
Seasons (Best to worst in my opinion) since BOTS2
The Gauntlet 2
The Duel
The Inferno 2
The Duel 2
BOTS 2
The Inferno 3
The Ruins
Fresh Meat 2
Fresh Meat 1
The Island
Gauntlet 3
[QUOTE=brealsmooth;196665]Yeah I have to agree with AJ Hill.
I have been watching since the Battle of Sexes 2,
my favorite seasons being (Inferno 2, Gauntlet 2, and the Duel)
I feel like a lot of seasons been done poorly,
I am a Big Johny,Kenny, and Evan fan cause I feel like they are entertaining.
But I feel a bit Annoyed with them being on every challenge. Now I feel like Im watching repeats of just the same people in the center of every episode!
After the Island, I thought Johny and Kenny should of took a break. (:
It's getting me fustrated
Seasons (Best to worst in my opinion) since BOTS2
The Gauntlet 2
The Duel
The Inferno 2
The Duel 2
BOTS 2
The Inferno 3
The Ruins
Fresh Meat 2
Fresh Meat 1
The Island
Gauntlet 3[/QUOTE]
Funny you say that, because Botseasons, BOTS I, The Gauntlet and Inferno were all on top of those, in my opinon. I actually think the Inferno II was better than the Gauntlet II.
[QUOTE=brealsmooth;196665]
Seasons (Best to worst in my opinion) since BOTS2
The Gauntlet 2
The Duel
The Inferno 2
The Duel 2
BOTS 2
The Inferno 3
The Ruins
Fresh Meat 2
Fresh Meat 1
The Island
[B]Gauntlet 3[/B][/QUOTE]
I'm really shocked to see that Gauntlet 3 was your least favorite. I really loved watching that season, Gauntlet 2 not so much. It was good but most of the others were way better. I personally loved The Ruins, Inferno 2, and The Duel. I also loved a lot of the pre-BOTS 2. I guess I could never actually pick a "favorite" season, but my I know G3 wouldn't be on the bottom of my list.
Personally, I don't understand the Gauntlet 3 love... I absolutely despised that season. It and The Island are my two least favorites.
Anything pre Inferno 2 is in my top rankings. I also enjoyed the original Duel and the original Fresh Meat wasn't too bad. It sort of reminded me of BotSeasons.
I honestly thought the Island was pretty good also, is just that I think it was 2nd to bottom. The Island in my opinion was far way better than the G3.
The Gauntlet 3 had boring missions and the eliminations were just boring. The matchups were so weak.. I mean Jillian and Frank were the only good elimination players In the Rookies Team, everybody else performed horrible or underaverage,
I think what could of made the G3 better is if the elimination round would of took place at night.
What do you guys think,
[b]order your list from best to worst of seasons that you watched [/b]
[QUOTE=fabulous788;185767]Here's my list of favorites to leas favorites. I think it's definitely a no brainer which one is the worst.
1. Inferno 2
2. The Ruins
3. Battle of the Seasons
4. The Duel
5. Battle of the Sexes
6. Gauntlet 3
7. Inferno 1
8. Battle of the Sexes 2
9. Gauntlet 1
10. Fresh Meat
11. The Duel 2
12. Inferno 3
13. Gauntlet 2
14. Fresh Meat 2
15. The Island[/QUOTE]
I didn't want to type it again, so I found my older post..lol. But I think I would actually switch The Island and Fresh Meat 2 now. :D
There was a lot of stuff on the Gauntlet 3 that let me down... they didn't show a lot of stuff that happened and they showed stuff in the trailer that they didn't show on the season; such as Tyrie and Kenny's little altercation. The CT/Adam spat was probably the biggest fight that they showed that season and it wasn't even in the previews or anything.
Am I really the only person that finds it incredibly irritating that they're willing to keep bringing back Fresh Meat people, have ANOTHER Fresh Meat season, have a Spring Break Challenge for drunken college kids and invite those people OVER the kids from Road Rules Viewer's Revenge?!? So they didn't get on the RV, big ******* deal?! Did the fresh meaters get on the RV? Did the spring breakers!? It was an actual season if I'm not mistaken. If I was Ivory, Kristen, Monte, etc., I would be pissed, providing of course they would want to do a challenge- which I think is highly likely.
[QUOTE=Old Friend;196738]If you're talking about the duel 2, yes there fight was shown in the previews. every other commercial as well.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure townie was talking about Gauntlet III, not the Duel 2.
[QUOTE=Old Friend;196738]If you're talking about the duel 2, yes there fight was shown in the previews. every other commercial as well.[/QUOTE]
I am talking about their fight on Gauntlet 3, which is why I stated Gauntlet 3 and made no mention of Duel 2 in my post...
[QUOTE=Old Friend;196738]If you're talking about the duel 2, yes there fight was shown in the previews. every other commercial as well.[/QUOTE]
He's referring to an argument they had during the Gauntlet III when CT poured a beer on Adam's head and Adam went to fight with CT but someone held him back.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;196732]Am I really the only person that finds it incredibly irritating that they're willing to keep bringing back Fresh Meat people, have ANOTHER Fresh Meat season, have a Spring Break Challenge for drunken college kids and invite those people OVER the kids from Road Rules Viewer's Revenge?!? So they didn't get on the RV, big ******* deal?! Did the fresh meaters get on the RV? Did the spring breakers!? It was an actual season if I'm not mistaken. If I was Ivory, Kristen, Monte, etc., I would be pissed, providing of course they would want to do a challenge- which I think is highly likely.[/QUOTE]
I just re-watched Viewer's Revenge & I can't believe that Ivory hasn't been on a challenge. She seems built for competition & drama. I would surprised if she would say no. But instead we get some random spring break *****? What the hell?!
I agree with BMP/MTV to not cast people from The Pit Crew to be on the challenges. I don't think we really got to see them or get to know them. If Ivory and Kristen showed up on the challenge I definitely wouldn't recognize either of them. I think that the mentality behind casting Camila was that BMP/MTV had hoped/thought the fans watched Spring Break Challenge. Camila was the only person I can really recall from SBC. I think she was the best person to cast out of all of them. At least they didn't chose like a random person from one team you have no idea is.
[QUOTE=dylan76;196744]I just re-watched Viewer's Revenge & I can't believe that Ivory hasn't been on a challenge. She seems built for competition & drama. I would surprised if she would say no. But instead we get some random spring break *****? What the hell?![/QUOTE]
She never made it on the RV, so she is not a Road Ruler, what would we call her?
[QUOTE=Superboy;196754]She never made it on the RV, so she is not a Road Ruler, what would we call her?[/QUOTE]
Well, she was on the show and got some airtime. I'd say the most logical thing to call her would be a Road Ruler... but if not, and people are too picky, I'd say a "Pit Crewer?"
Or maybe just a "Challenger" since that's what you call most of the cast members on the challenges.
Who cares what we'd call her!!! She was on an original show! How is it justifiable that "we wont know anything about ivory or kristen" but camilla and theresa, laurel, luke, etc. can be on a challenge. We don't know anything about them either! If anything we DO know more about Kristen and Ivory. Ivory is a fiery New Yorker who looks like a raver. She's also a lesbian who likes to cause fights. Kristen is a sweet girl who swears up and down she's a tough girl and has a "b****" in her.
Theresa, Laurel, and Luke were all officially on a challenge...the only problem I have with Camila is that she wasn't even on a challenge, she was on a one-shot (not anymore) spring break thing, and gets invited to a challenge? That's crazy.
Random, but I was watching Battle of the Sexes today, and on the scoreboard, did they spell Laterrian's name wrong, or does Wikipedia spell it wrong?
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