The Challenge: Cut Throat - Episode 8 Discussion

So much to digest...for about the 6th episode in a row, SHUT UP LAUREL. You went into the Gulag. You won. Get the **** over it and stop acting like you got screwed over by your team. It's not like they were sending you in to get rid of you like the Blue Team did with Big Easy and Katie. They sent you in because they thought you would come back. I'm not questioning her competitiveness at all, but her attitude is **** poor. Her constant putting down of Cara Maria reeks of jealousy... maybe it's because both guys on her team (and Dan when he was still there) get along better with Cara Maria than her. I agree with those who said that CM being picked before Laurel on FM2 has a bit to do with it as well. And throwing a mission? What's that going to solve? Getting lost in all this is that SARAH likely would have been the one getting thrown in had they lost that mission. I love how apathetic Abram is toward Laurel. CT coming in was amazing. I've been waiting for this all season. Tyler's reaction was pretty funny, he knows he's ****ed but he took it pretty well. Johnny looked like he just got his lunch money taken. Don't know who wins, but I'd give Tyler the edge here, regardless of the order. I loved that CT said he was gonna put Johnny in the dirt. My favorite reaction was Derrick's though. Even though he knows Johnny's going to get smoked by CT, he's laughing his *** off and clapping. Tina, staying true to form, stunk the joint out. She's never impressed me as a competitor and now I remember why. Runs her mouth too much and never backs it up. She's not a good competitor, and she's not funny or entertaining either. I get that they brought her in because she's gotten kicked off for fighting, but she doesn't aspire fear in the girls the way CT does in the guys. Not even close.

[QUOTE=AJHill;224652] Tina, staying true to form, stunk the joint out. She's never impressed me as a competitor and now I remember why. Runs her mouth too much and never backs it up. She's not a good competitor, and she's not funny or entertaining either. I get that they brought her in because she's gotten kicked off for fighting, but[B] she doesn't aspire fear in the girls the way CT does in the guys.[/B] Not even close.[/QUOTE] Did you see the look on Tori's face?

Tori would be afraid if she had to go in against Melinda, lets be serious. That is why CT got all the hype and promotion for the heavy hitters and Tina got nothing. All Tina does is runs her mouth time and time and time again and doesn't back it up. Inferno 2 and Fresh Meat, thinks she's all that and then has to get carried in the final. On the Duel, talked big about how she got kicked off for punching Beth and she barely grazed her. Then last night... a lot of talk and didn't even move a skinny girl one inch towards her barrel. Abe's comments about Tina during her Gulag kind of reminded me of what Kenny & those guys say about Coral as a competitor... they know her for what she really is.

[QUOTE=Moonpaw;224658]Did you see the look on Tori's face?[/QUOTE] Maybe she was thinking about their puppy.

I still feel like they ******* the bed with Tina. Look at CT when he walked out. He wasn't mean mugging, he didn't look angry at all but he was still scary as ****. Look at his eyes and the way he was hyping himself, that is a man who will chew you up and spit you out. Tina had her ****** face on and I still laughed when I saw her.

[QUOTE=JL81790;224665]I still feel like they ******* the bed with Tina. Look at CT when he walked out. He wasn't mean mugging, he didn't look angry at all but he was still scary as ****. Look at his eyes and the way he was hyping himself, that is a man who will chew you up and spit you out. Tina had her ****** face on and I still laughed when I saw her.[/QUOTE] Just rewatched the episode and I just realized just how unimpressive Tina was. She has to have at least 20 pounds on theresa and it didn't look like she gave it her all. I love the screams in the background at the end of the episode when CT is going against bananas. Anyone want to guess how long each guy lasts? I say 35 seconds for Johnny and 2 minutes for Tyler

[QUOTE=The Beast;224666]Just rewatched the episode and I just realized just how unimpressive Tina was. She has to have at least 20 pounds on theresa and it didn't look like she gave it her all. I love the screams in the background at the end of the episode when CT is going against bananas. Anyone want to guess how long each guy lasts? I say 35 seconds for Johnny and 2 minutes for Tyler[/QUOTE] I hope you know that Tyler is a personal trainer with the Boston Celtics.

[QUOTE=V1man;224675]I hope you know that Tyler is a personal trainer with the Boston Celtics.[/QUOTE] good for him, im not trying to discredit Tyler at all. To me it just looks like CT is in kill mode, looks pretty jacked and cut, and is ready to throw some people around. I'm just taking a stab at the dark - for all we know Tyler could last 20 seconds or 20 minutes next week.

[QUOTE=The Beast;224691]good for him, im not trying to discredit Tyler at all. To me it just looks like CT is in kill mode, looks pretty jacked and cut, and is ready to throw some people around. I'm just taking a stab at the dark - for all we know Tyler could last 20 seconds or 20 minutes next week.[/QUOTE] Tyler's not in my top 5, but I definitely wouldn't underestimate him and he may not be as big as CT, but I think he'd do a **** of a lot better than Bananas and better than most would expect.

When I was watching the episode, I thought for sure I saw Laurel punch Luke in the balls after the grey team won the challenge. Did she actually or did she hit him somewhere else?

[QUOTE=Lamb Chop!!!;224695]When I was watching the episode, I thought for sure I saw Laurel punch Luke in the balls after the grey team won the challenge. Did she actually or did she hit him somewhere else?[/QUOTE] She pushed him away when he went to hug her. She's acting like a spoilt brat about going into the gulag. boo ******** hoo you went into an elimination round on your SECOND challenge. She can't expect to coast through a challenge just because she did great in her first one.

Finally saw the ep, few thoughts: - The puppy line made me laugh a lot, Brad may be acting like a **** this season but he has had some great lines. - Sarah/Laurel, are actually making this Challenge unwatchable at times its really irritating how much time production spends on their stupid attempt at a coup. Funny how Laurel was taking about carrying dead weight to Sarah when in my mind she should've been talking about Sarah herself, beating Katie and Johanna doesn't make her an awesome competitor. - The challenged seemed frustrating as **** and Derricks "I'm a circus clown" line was funny as ****. Loved how Abe almost snapped at Laurel but instead just let it go.. old school Abe would've ripped her head off lol -Don't blame Johnny for asking TJ to blow the horn, I was thinking myself if I had been in that Challenge I would've given up a long time before he said it. - Tori wanting to leave a challenge again? Duel 2 rerun? Why did she show up then? -Liked how they refreshed people's memories about Johnny/Tyler during the Challenges. Don't get why people on these Challenges think Theresa is hot..she's probably the worst looking after Laurel (she looks pretty when done up I've realized). -The return of CT and Tina was pretty epic, loved Derrick's reaction and his "man he's ready to go" comment. Tina..don't really care she's never been a top competitor for me but I get why they brought her back. As many have said was Ev busy? Looks like people are gonna get their wishes since the Island and see Johnny finally put his money where his mouth is in an elimination round. Pretty good episode but I'm getting sick and tired of Laurel/Sarah.

[QUOTE=Entropy;224703]Finally saw the ep, few thoughts: - The puppy line made me laugh a lot, Brad may be acting like a **** this season but he has had some great lines. - Sarah/Laurel, are actually making this Challenge unwatchable at times its really irritating how much time production spends on their stupid attempt at a coup. [B]Funny how Laurel was taking about carrying dead weight to Sarah when in my mind she should've been talking about Sarah herself[/B], beating Katie and Johanna doesn't make her an awesome competitor. - The challenged seemed frustrating as **** and Derricks "I'm a circus clown" line was funny as ****. Loved how Abe almost snapped at Laurel but instead just let it go.. old school Abe would've ripped her head off lol -Don't blame Johnny for asking TJ to blow the horn, I was thinking myself if I had been in that Challenge I would've given up a long time before he said it. - [B]Tori wanting to leave a challenge again? Duel 2 rerun? Why did she show up then?[/B] -Liked how they refreshed people's memories about Johnny/Tyler during the Challenges. [B]Don't get why people on these Challenges think Theresa is hot..she's probably the worst looking after Laurel (she looks pretty when done up I've realized).[/B] -The return of CT and Tina was pretty epic, loved Derrick's reaction and his "man he's ready to go" comment. Tina..don't really care she's never been a top competitor for me but I get why they brought her back. As many have said was Ev busy? Looks like people are gonna get their wishes since the Island and see Johnny finally put his money where his mouth is in an elimination round. Pretty good episode but I'm getting sick and tired of Laurel/Sarah.[/QUOTE] I agree completely. Sarah has never been a fantastic competitor. She was 2nd to be sent home on FM 2 and so far, hasn't stood out in this one as anyone to watch out for. On grey team, for me, weakest girls have been Shauvon and Ayiiia (though, in all fairness, she didn't have a real chance to prove herself yet) with I think Sarah and Cara Maria pretty close. I'm sick of seeing Tori and wish she'd be sent home. She's turning into a soccer mom from **** and Brad should just come on these things alone or have them both stay home with their new puppy. I don't find Theresa in the least bit attractive and I like latina women a lot. I keep forgetting she's even on this season, because she's been completely uneventful, aside of when she was playing ***** toward Camila.

[QUOTE=Lamb Chop!!!;224695]When I was watching the episode, I thought for sure I saw Laurel punch Luke in the balls after the grey team won the challenge. Did she actually or did she hit him somewhere else?[/QUOTE] HAHAHA this made me crack up.

[QUOTE=Entropy;224703]Finally saw the ep, few thoughts: - The puppy line made me laugh a lot, Brad may be acting like a **** this season but he has had some great lines. - Sarah/Laurel, are actually making this Challenge unwatchable at times its really irritating how much time production spends on their stupid attempt at a coup. Funny how Laurel was taking about carrying dead weight to Sarah when in my mind she should've been talking about Sarah herself, [B]beating Katie and Johanna doesn't make her an awesome competitor.[/B] - The challenged seemed frustrating as **** and Derricks "I'm a circus clown" line was funny as ****. Loved how Abe almost snapped at Laurel but instead just let it go.. old school Abe would've ripped her head off lol -Don't blame Johnny for asking TJ to blow the horn, I was thinking myself if I had been in that Challenge I would've given up a long time before he said it. - Tori wanting to leave a challenge again? Duel 2 rerun? Why did she show up then? -Liked how they refreshed people's memories about Johnny/Tyler during the Challenges. Don't get why people on these Challenges think Theresa is hot..she's probably the worst looking after Laurel (she looks pretty when done up I've realized). -The return of CT and Tina was pretty epic, loved Derrick's reaction and his "man he's ready to go" comment. Tina..don't really care she's never been a top competitor for me but I get why they brought her back. As many have said was Ev busy? Looks like people are gonna get their wishes since the Island and see Johnny finally put his money where his mouth is in an elimination round. Pretty good episode but I'm getting sick and tired of Laurel/Sarah.[/QUOTE] It doesn't make Sarah a bad competitor either. Sarah is a strong competitor.

[QUOTE=trees12;224724]It doesn't make Sarah a bad competitor either. It is not Sara's fault that all the girls from the champions team on the ruins were lackluster with the exception of Susie. However, even Susie would have rather went in against any of the challengers on the ruins except KellyAnne and Sarah. [B]Sarah is a strong competitor.[/B][/QUOTE] I think Tyler's going to surprise a few people in his match with CT. By no means do I think he'll come close to beating him, but I think he'll put up a much better fight than Johnny.

Derrick's trying to finish his next podcast with Laurel and CT, just something to look out for. Should be a good one.

[QUOTE=Morris1721;224744]Derrick's trying to finish his next podcast with Laurel and CT, just something to look out for. Should be a good one.[/QUOTE] Can you post a link?

[QUOTE=AJHill;224741]I think Tyler's going to surprise a few people in his match with CT. By no means do I think he'll come close to beating him, but I think he'll put up a much better fight than Johnny.[/QUOTE] I like Tyler, I think he's a cool guy who is greatly underestimated. I'm glad he makes alot of people put their foot in their mouth. Yes, Tyler is a strong competitor. He was one of the people that I have always rooted for.

Who knows, he might really be better than the Miz. A lot of wrestlers on the independent scene are better than a lot of WWE wrestlers. Being successful in the WWE almost completely based on personalities and characters and not ring work.

[QUOTE=ImNotYogi;224702]She pushed him away when he went to hug her. She's acting like a spoilt brat about going into the gulag. boo ******** hoo you went into an elimination round on your SECOND challenge. She can't expect to coast through a challenge just because she did great in her first one.[/QUOTE] Thanks for clarifying! And I agree... Laurel is an annoying *****, just like she was on FM2. The comment about how she feels she should make it to the end because she did good on her first challenge should also apply to Sarah.

So let me get this straight: IF CT beats Tyler in the Gulag so that means Tyler has to go home? What about the other way around? Forgive as I been in and out the zone. Anyway, I finally saw this episode and it was fantastic as ****. But I didn't like how CT and Tina didn't speak until right before the Gulag. I wanted some more references and trash talking but its all good.

[QUOTE=Old Friend;224845]So let me get this straight: IF CT beats Tyler in the Gulag so that means Tyler has to go home? What about the other way around? Forgive as I been in and out the zone.[/QUOTE] Tyler and Johnny will both go against CT. Whoever does better (either gets to their barrel quicker, or lasts longer against CT before he knocks his barrel over) wins and stays.

[QUOTE=Old Friend;224845]So let me get this straight: IF CT beats Tyler in the Gulag so that means Tyler has to go home? What about the other way around? Forgive as I been in and out the zone.[/QUOTE] No. CT and Tina do NOT join the Challenge. They are just part of the elimination. Whoever knocks down their own barrel the fastest, or stops CT/Tina from knocking down their barrel for the longest amount of time wins the gulag and sends the other person home.

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet but does anyone else think it's absolutely stupid for Laurel and Sarah to consider throwing a mission? They're not guaranteed to stay out of the gulag. It's Laurel and Sarah vs Abe, Cara Marie and Luke at this point.

[QUOTE=ImNotYogi;224938]I don't know if this has been mentioned yet but does anyone else think it's absolutely stupid for Laurel and Sarah to consider throwing a mission? They're not guaranteed to stay out of the gulag. It's Laurel and Sarah vs Abe, Cara Marie and Luke at this point.[/QUOTE] Yes it has been mentioned.

[QUOTE=Goo Punch;224432] Laurel and Sara... who cares. Both of you are nobodys. I'm not so sure Cara Marie wouldn't take Sarah out in an elimination round. Cara Marie does seem very fragile mentally though. .[/QUOTE] I'm amazed at how some people are so quick to say Paula should go home because she is "mentally unstable" but are quick to defend Cara Maria who left the same impression in FM2. I like her personality most times, but I think she needs to toughen up a little instead of complaining about people's (Laurel and Sarah's) meanness. [QUOTE=Blamo;224436]The quickly abandoned plot to throw the challenge shows how emotionally driven and irrational Laurel is, and how much of a follower Sarah is. I want to like Sarah, but she seems most comfortable when she is somebody's lackey. .[/QUOTE] Actually, I don't think it was irrational or emotionally driven. I think she thought it through and was planning on trying to make a strategic move, but when they choose not to, doesn't that show she at least have a great competitive side? Amazing how people see things one-sided when they want to. As far as Sarah... almost no one on these challenges play games single-handedly without a partner or an alliance (handful of exceptions including Darrell). So IMO, I don't get the basis of your points [QUOTE=AJHill;224652]So much to digest...for about the 6th episode in a row, SHUT UP LAUREL. You went into the Gulag. You won. Get the **** over it and stop acting like you got screwed over by your team. It's not like they were sending you in to get rid of you like the Blue Team did with Big Easy and Katie. They sent you in because they thought you would come back. I'm not questioning her competitiveness at all, but her attitude is **** poor. Her constant putting down of Cara Maria reeks of jealousy... maybe it's because both guys on her team (and Dan when he was still there) get along better with Cara Maria than her. I agree with those who said that CM being picked before Laurel on FM2 has a bit to do with it as well. And throwing a mission? What's that going to solve? [B]Getting lost in all this is that SARAH likely would have been the one getting thrown in had they lost that mission.[/B] I love how apathetic Abram is toward Laurel. [/QUOTE] I actually agree with Laurel in this one. It's not like all teams send in players hoping they don't return, but the fact is, many teams don't even let their strong players go into elimination rounds because everyone has a chance of going home, no matter how strong or weak they are. Imagine if Laurel went home and lost? What a blow that would be for their team especially since she's been performing solidly in the challenges and many people know her strength. As for them picking on Laurel, not sure, but I don't think it's jealousy in the least as much as they feel as though because she's with Abe, his decisions are being clouded and she's being favored. Not saying she's as bad as Casey but this is an example. Imagine if you were on a team with Casey, you knowing that you're stronger athletically than Casey but being put into an elimination because she's with the best guy on the team. No one would like that. Especially after hearing the podcast, I feel like Laurel was angrier because she picked up for Cara Maria and Abe when Sarah and Ayiiia said she was sleeping with Abe to get ahead in the game. Laurel picked up for them and said she didn't believe it would affect Abe's judgement or game. Then it did. So, I'd be ****** to. Plus I don't think Laurel had a reason to be jealous, he get along well with most of the guys and other girls on the challenge, plus she doesn't strike me as the type of person to get jealous because Dan, Luke and Abram may like Cara Maria better. I doubt she'd care. I agree with your comment that I bolded. [QUOTE=Entropy;224703]Finally saw the ep, few thoughts: - Sarah/Laurel, are actually making this Challenge unwatchable at times its really irritating how much time production spends on their stupid attempt at a coup. Funny how Laurel was taking about carrying dead weight to Sarah when in my mind she should've been talking about Sarah herself, beating Katie and Johanna doesn't make her an awesome competitor. Pretty good episode but I'm getting sick and tired of Laurel/Sarah.[/QUOTE] I agree that Sarah needs to prove herself more, but she did do well in those elimination rounds as well as in challenges thus far. Beating Katie and Johanna doesn't make her an awesome competitor, but it does make her a better one than Cara Maria, who only beat Mandi..... barely. I am on Laurel/Sarah side for now at least, mainly because I see their strategy in this. It's a game. If you cannot actually help in a final, then all you are doing is taking more of my money.

Cara Maria beat Mandi by a larger margin than Sarah beat Katie. CM and Mandi are both about the same weight wise it seems, yet not once did Mandi ever get Cara Maria going in Mandi's direction much less win an actual round. For most people, pulling someone that is your same weight is going to be somewhat of a struggle so it's normal that she did struggle but Mandi never got even close to knocking barrel down and it was 2-0. Katie on the other hand won one round against Sarah who is noticeably bigger than Katie though admittedly that Ruins had less to do with weight than the dragging one.

[QUOTE=v123;225091]Cara Maria beat Mandi by a larger margin than Sarah beat Katie. CM and Mandi are both about the same weight wise it seems, yet not once did Mandi ever get Cara Maria going in Mandi's direction much less win an actual round. For most people, pulling someone that is your same weight is going to be somewhat of a struggle so it's normal that she did struggle but Mandi never got even close to knocking barrel down and it was 2-0. Katie on the other hand won one round against Sarah who is noticeably bigger than Katie though admittedly that Ruins had less to do with weight than the dragging one.[/QUOTE] Yeah well, Katie's also a more respected competitor than Mandi. She's not great but she did some good thing in her time and is a veteran. So I consider Sarah's win to her> Cara's win to Mandi

I would just like to say how much I enjoy there being three teams this time around rather than the usual two. I kind of hope they stick to the three team format for the next challenge... if there is one.