The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons - Discussion (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=r3iKo;306829]I agree. Despite St. Thomas having a athletic background. I think they'll get stuck in the party aspect of the game. I'm just excited to see the drama between six people that should have been on exes. Wes, Kelly Anne, Danny, Melinda, Jemmye, and Knight.[/QUOTE] Yes!! The exes drama is going to be good! It's funny because this season has more real couples compared to last season exes haha....I'm actually excited to see Jeymme handle Zach and his ex-girlfriend, considering she really dislikes them, and she doesn't hold her tongue. I also expect Devyn to be a great competitor! People seem to forget she use to workout with Scott a lot during their season, and she's a strong chick!

[QUOTE=producer88;306828] I expect the order to be: 1.Las Vegas 2.Austin 3.Sydney (Dunbar & Kellyanne connection to Wes, and Kellyanne being the strongest girl) [B]4.Brooklyn (people forget Sarah connection with Wes)[/B] 5.Cancun 6.New Orleans 7.St.Thomas 8.San Diego[/QUOTE] You seem to forget that pretty much nobody likes Chet, especially Dustin Zito; Under Armor doesn't make ball gowns; and JD has been a mess when he was on before. I also remember Wes tweeting something like ** Kellyanne not long ago. I'd put pre-season order as Vegas, St Thomas, Sydney, Austin, Cancun, New Orleans, Brooklyn then San Diego.

Everyone seems to be ******* Alton as the strongest male there, but it's been five years since we've seen him. A lot could happen in five years. For all we know he could have put on 50 pounds and be extremely out of shape. I doubt that, but still.

[QUOTE=producer88;306828]I think a lot of people are underestimating Las Vegas. Alton is clearly the best player by a mile (well don't know how Zach will perform, but I expect great things from him as well). I think San Diego will be the season everyone is going to target, especially that a lot of people don't like Zach and his ex-girl, whatever her name is. They will also probably be seen as a threat. I really don't like anyone from San Diego, so it's probably wishful thinking from my part. I especially dislike Zach and his ex-girl...This was the worst season of Real World ever! Austin-Sydney-Las Vegas will probably run the show, and Brooklyn-Cancun-New Orleans-St.Thomas will literally just be in the middle of it all. I expect the order to be: 1.Las Vegas 2.Austin 3.Sydney ([B]Dunbar & Kellyanne connection to Wes[/B], and Kellyanne being the strongest girl) 4.Brooklyn (people forget [B]Sarah connection with Wes[/B]) 5.Cancun 6.New Orleans 7.St.Thomas 8.San Diego[/QUOTE] I'm confused. When were Sarah or Dunbar ever on Wes' side?

[QUOTE=FishHooks;306835]You seem to forget that pretty much nobody likes Chet, especially Dustin Zito; Under Armor doesn't make ball gowns; and JD has been a mess when he was on before. I also remember Wes tweeting something like ** Kellyanne not long ago. I'd put pre-season order as Vegas, St Thomas, Sydney, Austin, Cancun, New Orleans, Brooklyn then San Diego.[/QUOTE] Even if Kellyanne & Wes had an issue, I'm sure he wouldn't miss an opportunity to create an alliance with the team that has the strongest girl, and strongest guy (Las Vegas/Sydney). St.Thomas is still too new to be ranked so high. I don't even know if the rest of the cast even met the kids outside the show, like most cast members do. Their rookie look is really going to put them in the bottom 2 a lot! They will get lucky if the hate for San Diego is much stronger, than targeting the rookies first. People will look up to Alton and Trishelle. Both for being the oldest vets, and Alton being the strongest male in the competition. Plus Las Vegas is really looking athletic! This challenge will come down to how Las Vegas runs it. I still think they will link up with Austin, and also Sydney. I see them 3 as the power team (also assuming 2/3 contain the strongest male/female). Brooklyn, Cancun, New Orleans are in the middle, and I see Brooklyn sticking for while, because of Sarah connection, and I believe Devyn will be stronger than what people here believe, HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN HER MUSCLES!! She's built, that's if she's the same shape as she was during Brooklyn season. I still see St.Thomas & San Diego being the punching bag. St.Thomas cause of the rookies faith, and San Diego cause of the dislike, rookies faith, and potential threat.

[QUOTE=CherryPie;306840]I'm confused. When were Sarah or Dunbar ever on Wes' side?[/QUOTE] They had a connection during Rivals. They know If you're in a class where a lot of people are new, you're going to gravitate towards someone familiar. An example, Beth & Coral during Gauntlet 3.

[QUOTE=producer88;306841] St.Thomas is still too new to be ranked so high. I don't even know if the rest of the cast even met the kids outside the show, like most cast members do. Their rookie look is really going to put them in the bottom 2 a lot! They will get lucky if the hate for San Diego is much stronger, than targeting the rookies first. People will look up to Alton and Trishelle. Both for being the oldest vets, and Alton being the strongest male in the competition. Plus Las Vegas is really looking athletic! This challenge will come down to how Las Vegas runs it. I still think they will link up with Austin, and also Sydney. I see them 3 as the power team (also assuming 2/3 contain the strongest male/female). Brooklyn, Cancun, New Orleans are in the middle, and [B]I see Brooklyn sticking for while, because of Sarah connection[/B], and I believe Devyn will be stronger than what people here believe, HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN HER MUSCLES!! She's build, that's if she's the same shape as she was during Brooklyn season. I still see St.Thomas & San Diego being the punching bag. St.Thomas cause of the rookies faith, and San Diego cause of the dislike, rookies faith, and potential threat.[/QUOTE] I agree with you on the order, in terms of possible alliances. But athletically I don't see St. Thomas and San Diego as being at the bottom. And sure if they don't win the daily challenges they will probably be chosen to be up for elimination, but I think they have the ability to take teams out. Just because Sarah has that connection doesn't mean it will save Brooklyn in an elimination face off.

[QUOTE=producer88;306841]Even if Kellyanne & Wes had an issue, I'm sure he wouldn't miss an opportunity to create an alliance with the team that has the strongest girl, and strongest guy (Las Vegas/Sydney). St.Thomas is still too new to be ranked so high. I don't even know if the rest of the cast even met the kids outside the show, like most cast members do. Their rookie look is really going to put them in the bottom 2 a lot! They will get lucky if the hate for San Diego is much stronger, than targeting the rookies first. People will look up to Alton and Trishelle. Both for being the oldest vets, and Alton being the strongest male in the competition. Plus Las Vegas is really looking athletic! This challenge will come down to how Las Vegas runs it. I still think they will link up with Austin, and also Sydney. I see them 3 as the power team (also assuming 2/3 contain the strongest male/female). Brooklyn, Cancun, New Orleans are in the middle, and I see Brooklyn sticking for while, because of Sarah connection, and I believe Devyn will be stronger than what people here believe, HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN HER MUSCLES!! She's build, that's if she's the same shape as she was during Brooklyn season. I still see St.Thomas & San Diego being the punching bag. St.Thomas cause of the rookies faith, and San Diego cause of the dislike, rookies faith, and potential threat.[/QUOTE] I think in a traditional Challenge your take on St. Thomas may be right, but V1 seems to be hinting that this is going to be a different atmosphere and I think that them being fresh out of the house might give them added cohesiveness as a team. Devyn has really big implants. That will hurt her IMO. She is also so guarded that she might implode. That team is better on the girls side than the boys, but I have serious doubts. Chet is abrasive and that team might fall apart when he and Sara start at each other and JD is just not Challenge material.

[QUOTE=DomDom7;306846]I agree with you on the order, in terms of possible alliances. But athletically I don't see St. Thomas and San Diego as being at the bottom. And sure if they don't win the daily challenges they will probably be chosen to be up for elimination, but I think they have the ability to take teams out. Just because Sarah has that connection doesn't mean it will save Brooklyn in an elimination face off.[/QUOTE] This is also true. I do agree San Diego/St.Thomas are not in the bottom based on physical ability (assuming). I just see them going in every time, which might get to their heads, and knowing they have to go in every single time (depending on who goes into elimination). Brooklyn is an okay team imo. The two girls are stronger than the two guys in my opinion. Chet is good, but not good enough. Sarah only had one flop, and people seem to forget her amazing performance in The Ruins with Kellyanne, and her strength in swimming. Devyn is built physically, and she's an intelligent woman, so I see potential, I seriously think fear might hold her back. JD was irrelevant his first challenge. [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=13755][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/7184fc91caca02f5.jpg[/img][/url]

[QUOTE=producer88;306849]This is also true. I do agree San Diego/St.Thomas are not in the bottom based on physical ability (assuming). I just see them going in every time, which might get to their heads, and knowing they have to go in every single time (depending on who goes into elimination). Brooklyn is an okay team imo. The two girls are stronger than the two guys in my opinion. Chet is good, but not good enough. Sarah only had one flop, and people seem to forget her amazing performance in The Ruins with Kellyanne, and her strength in swimming. Devyn is build physically, and she's an intelligent woman, so I see potential, I seriously think fear might hold her back. JD was irrelevant his first challenge. [/QUOTE] I do like Chet and love Sarah, but the problem is exactly what you said. The guys just aren't good enough. I hope they can stick around for a while, but it will be tough and they will have to upset some teams with stronger guys. Although if the challenges and eliminations are less physical than in recent seasons, who knows, Brooklyn might be one of the best teams because they all seem pretty intelligent. I'm hoping that Devyn will turn out to be a good competitor!

[QUOTE=FishHooks;306848]I think in a traditional Challenge your take on St. Thomas may be right, but V1 seems to be hinting that this is going to be a different atmosphere and I think that them being fresh out of the house might give them added cohesiveness as a team. Devyn has really big implants. That will hurt her IMO. She is also so guarded that she might implode. [B]That team is better on the girls side than the boys[/B], but I have serious doubts. Chet is abrasive and that team might fall apart when he and Sara start at each other and JD is just not Challenge material.[/QUOTE] LOL I just posted that! Devyn is toned & tall, and Sarah a good competitor. The girls from Brooklyn will carry their team.

[QUOTE=yankeegurl93;306839]Everyone seems to be ******* Alton as the strongest male there, but it's been five years since we've seen him. A lot could happen in five years. For all we know he could have put on 50 pounds and be extremely out of shape. I doubt that, but still.[/QUOTE] I'd say Zach is the best athlete and probably strongest male there, all Alton was great at really was climbing. I just hope this challenge gets good ratings. There's no CT or JEK that a lot of people watch for and create ratings so their going to need a lot of drama.

Oddly enough a person I'm looking forward to seeing is Frank even though I couldn't stand him on his Real World season I think he has potential to be a good competitor he's a pretty big dude, he obviously works out, and he's a former college athlete. The only problem I see him having is his mental state he's a bit of a headcase but we've see competitors mature over time I think if he keeps sane and competes I think he'll do well.

[QUOTE=producer88;306828]I think a lot of people are underestimating Las Vegas. Alton is clearly the best player by a mile (well don't know how Zach will perform, but I expect great things from him as well). I think San Diego will be the season everyone is going to target, especially that a lot of people don't like Zach and his ex-girl, whatever her name is. They will also probably be seen as a threat. I really don't like anyone from San Diego, so it's probably wishful thinking from my part. I especially dislike Zach and his ex-girl...This was the worst season of Real World ever! Austin-Sydney-Las Vegas will probably run the show, and Brooklyn-Cancun-New Orleans-St.Thomas will literally just be in the middle of it all. I expect the order to be: 1.Las Vegas 2.Austin 3.Sydney (Dunbar & Kellyanne connection to Wes, and Kellyanne being the strongest girl) 4.Brooklyn ([B]people forget Sarah connection with Wes[/B]) 5.Cancun 6.New Orleans 7.St.Thomas 8.San Diego[/QUOTE] Opposite teams on The Ruins. Sarah was sent into Exile by Wes on Fresh Meat II. Sarah was never going to be protected by Wes on Rivals. Sarah sent Wes into the Dome on Battle of the Exes. What connection are you even relating to?

[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;306831][B]My predictions:[/B] - NOA2 will be the most dramatic. - There will be a clash between the newer seasons (esp. NOA2 and SD2) that the vets will exploit. - Trishelle will be overwhelmed and have a meltdown. - Wes/Danny will have it out for Lacey. - Alton, Dunbar, Isaac, Dustin and Chet will be comfortable throughout the game. - For the male side: Derek and JD will impress/surprise us in the missions. - For the females: Jemmye and possibly Devyn (see above). - But Sam and Nany will disappoint. - I've narrowed it down to Jonna and Kelly Anne on who will play the best social game on the females side. and Wes will have a hard time controlling the game after a few rounds in. As for the rest I have no idea - which is a good thing. I want to be shocked.[/QUOTE] A lot of these predictions are kind of random. What makes you think Danny/Wes will go after Lacey? Of all the guys on this challenge you think Derek and J.D. will perform the best? I do agree with you about: Alton, Dunbar, Isaac, Chet, and Dustin. Devyn. KellyAnne and Jonna.

[QUOTE=FishHooks;306848]I think in a traditional Challenge your take on St. Thomas may be right, but V1 seems to be hinting that this is going to be a different atmosphere and I think that them being fresh out of the house might give them added cohesiveness as a team. Devyn has really big implants. That will hurt her IMO. She is also so guarded that she might implode. That team is better on the girls side than the boys, but I have serious doubts. [B]Chet is abrasive and that team might fall apart when he and Sara start at each other and JD is just not Challenge material.[/B][/QUOTE] To my knowledge Sarah and Chet are friends outside of the show.

I can see a lot of people on this challenge hating San Diego as well. Frank might get hate for the way he acted on his season, Ashley since some might feel she's fake, and Zach by some of the gay castmembers. Especially since they're rookies.

The way I think things will go, totem pole wise: I think St. Thomas will be the lowest because they are the fresh newbies nobody knows who they are 2nd to last will probably be San Diego because individually they possess match up problems all 4 have potential 3rd to last be New Orleans only because they don't look very threatening 4th will be Las Vegas because in my opinion they don't have a lot of friends in the game so they'll have to win a lot The rest of the cast meaning Cancun, Sydney, Brooklyn, and Austin will probably work together because they have team members who have worked with each other on past challenges.

[QUOTE=Edwin;306869]I can see a lot of people on this challenge hating San Diego as well. Frank might get hate for the way he acted on his season, Ashley since some might feel she's fake, and Zach by some of the gay castmembers. Especially since they're rookies.[/QUOTE] I expect Frank to get up in Dustin's grill about the gay thing and hound him about 1) really being gay himself but a hypocrite and 2) the mean stuff he said about gays. There is no right in Frank's view of others and there is no wrong in Dustin's view of himself. Could be an interesting conversation or a really awesome fist-fight :tv_horror:

I have been reading vevmo for a very long time and I love real world and the challenges. I decided its about time I created an account so I could chime in with my opinion about the cast :). With that out of the way here is my 2 cents about the cast. I am really really loving this cast. And I am rooting for the San Diego cast mainly because I love Zach and I want to see him do well. I am a bit surprised to read that people are expecting the San Diego cast to leave early because everyone hates them. But I think its quiet the opposite, Zach and CJ are really good friends, and a few months ago they tweeted each other saying they should work together if they are ever on a challenge together. So I expect to see them do well. Btw Frank is friends with lots of the people in the current cast as well.

[QUOTE=FishHooks;306873]I expect Frank to get up in Dustin's grill about the gay thing and hound him about 1) really being gay himself but a hypocrite and 2) the mean stuff he said about gays. There is no right in Frank's view of others and there is no wrong in Dustin's view of himself. Could be an interesting conversation or a really awesome fist-fight :tv_horror:[/QUOTE] LOL now that's something I would love to see with popcorn in hand it would be quiet entertaining haha.

[QUOTE=Edwin;306869]I can see a lot of people on this challenge hating San Diego as well. Frank might get hate for the way he acted on his season, Ashley since some might feel she's fake, and Zach by some of the gay castmembers. Especially since they're rookies.[/QUOTE] I honestly don't see why they would hate the San Diego cast out of everyone. I mean yeah Frank is a lose cannon but he is not the only one. I actually see them doing really well!

Based on V1Man's suggestion to think outside the box in terms of format and his hinting that MTV may try to minimize the opportunity for alliances to affect the outcome, here is my 2 cents regarding how this could work: I think they will be in teams of 4 based on their season (or location, in the case of Vegas) and all teams will compete against one another, as a team, in missions. The two worst performing teams from each mission will have to respectively nominate a male and female from each of their teams to face off in the elimination. (So, for example, Cancun and NOLA are the two worst teams in the first mission, and Cancun chooses to send in Derek and Jonna, while NOLA sends in Preston and McKenzie. Derek and Preston face off, while Jonna and McKenzie also face off.) The winners obviously come back to rejoin their teams, while the losers go home. The missions and especially the final will be designed to favor teams with more people on them, so it's to each team's benefit to have all their players last as long as possible. As a result, the losing teams will have to decide whether it's better to send a stronger player in with a better chance of returning, or to send a weaker player in, taking the risk they may be down a man/woman the rest of the way. This still allows for plenty of internal team conflict, as they debate who should go in, but alliances won't really do them any good, especially not inter-team alliances. With the two worst teams automatically having to send people in, that also takes away the whole power couple thing. There would be money to bank for winning a mission, so there would still be a reason to fight for first place each week. When a team loses all of its females or males, then I guess the next worst team that does in fact still have a member of that *** left would also be involved in the elimination. I feel like that problem could have mathematically happened in past challenges (Ruins and Cutthroat come to mind), but somehow was avoided until the final, so maybe they'd be willing to take that risk again? This is probably all very wrong, but figured I'd provide some food for thought regarding a way it could be done without alliances/power couples nonetheless!

[QUOTE=Jenspiffer;306879]Based on V1Man's suggestion to think outside the box in terms of format and his hinting that MTV may try to minimize the opportunity for alliances to affect the outcome, here is my 2 cents regarding how this could work: I think they will be in teams of 4 based on their season (or location, in the case of Vegas) and all teams will compete against one another, as a team, in missions. The two worst performing teams from each mission will have to respectively nominate a male and female from each of their teams to face off in the elimination. (So, for example, Cancun and NOLA are the two worst teams in the first mission, and Cancun chooses to send in Derek and Jonna, while NOLA sends in Preston and McKenzie. Derek and Preston face off, while Jonna and McKenzie also face off.) The winners obviously come back to rejoin their teams, while the losers go home. The missions and especially the final will be designed to favor teams with more people on them, so it's to each team's benefit to have all their players last as long as possible. As a result, the losing teams will have to decide whether it's better to send a stronger player in with a better chance of returning, or to send a weaker player in, taking the risk they may be down a man/woman the rest of the way. This still allows for plenty of internal team conflict, as they debate who should go in, but alliances won't really do them any good, especially not inter-team alliances. With the two worst teams automatically having to send people in, that also takes away the whole power couple thing. There would be money to bank for winning a mission, so there would still be a reason to fight for first place each week. When a team loses all of its females or males, then I guess the next worst team that does in fact still have a member of that *** left would also be involved in the elimination. I feel like that problem could have mathematically happened in past challenges (Ruins and Cutthroat come to mind), but somehow was avoided until the final, so maybe they'd be willing to take that risk again? This is probably all very wrong, but figured I'd provide some food for thought regarding a way it could be done without alliances/power couples nonetheless![/QUOTE] I totally agree with your format. I could see them doing that.

Ok so Zach is hands down the Strongest, but if you count all around Athleticism then that would be Alton. Zach will think he's CT 2.0 and try to intimidate people but it wont work and he will be sent packing early. Wes is probably going to end up running this entire Season, since there is no JEK or CT. Frank will be going early because of the way he acts. Probably the entire St. Thomas team will go early as well because they are the New Guys. Cancun= Underdogs. New Orleans= The Worst Team out of all 8 Alton, Trishelle, Kellyanne, Isaac and Dunbar will make it far. Those are my thoughts.

I just want to know what this format is! I honestly can wait for the show, cause I want to see St Thomas first, and see how they are, cause I don't think people are judging them too well, cause we don't even know how they are as a group, we haven't seen them on TV before, obviously. I really think Brooklyn and New Orleans will be the worst. The only one on Brooklyn that is (or seems strong out of the ones we barely know) is Sarah. Devyn has an attitude all the time, and huge implants, that won't work well in her favor. JD is weak. Chet's good, just not sure if he's cut out for these challenges. As for New Orleans Jemmye and Knight are gonna fight a lot, and Jemmye will definitely have drunken moments. McKenzie will have drunken drama. Preston will just be a weak player in general.

OK, so with all the talks of chemistry and what not, I wanna discuss the most in-shape people coming in. Best Dudes (in order, overall health/strength): Zach CJ (watch him rebound from that time when Landon smokeshowed him) Dunbar Alton Wes Girls rankings: KellyAnne Sarah Then it's a toss up with the rest of them because we haven't really seen them (or we have, but they're just bad). I say look out for good performances by Sam, Devyn and Nany, being tall, and looking athletic. This season should be good, I'm excited.

I really don't think Ashley, Devyn and Sam will do well. They seem like the tyoe to go to the Gym for show or a nice figure but not really for fitness purposes. Jemmye, Marie and McKenzie are hardcore party girls so I don't see them doing that great either. Ashli, Nany, Trishelle, Lacey and Melinda are just there for show and drama will serve their purpose and make an early or mid way exit. I do think Laura, KellyAnne, Sarah, Jasmine, and Jonna will do fairly well. Fot the guys, I pray and hope Wes stays low key and let the rookies fight it out in the beginning but he is a really good competitor, I feel like Zach and CJ are going to have a horrible social game. Knight is going to be a great social player and an okay player. I think Wes, Isaac, Robb, Frank, and Alton will be beasts at some point or another. I think Preston, Chet, Derek, JD, Dunbar, and Danny are going to underperform. Overrall I think NOLA 2 has it the worst because they have mouths. Every other team has 1 maybe 2 loose cannons and the majority of those loose cannons are only if provoked. The NOLA kids are outspoken to the point where I'm sure they'll be thrown in till they leave.

St. Thomas- Overall Score: [B]?[/B] No Comment on these challengers. San Diego- Overall Score: [B]7.5[/B] Zach- will try to be the top dog. Probably will, probably won't. Ashley- can go either way as far as athleticism; same goes for social game. Frank- I see him perform well. Drama will distract him and send him home. Sam- Hmmm. Las Vegas- Overall Score: [B]8.5[/B] Alton- dominant male player, will struggle to stay in the loop of alliances. Trishelle- Strong player, will do fine socially. I see her staying out of drama. Dustin- good player, good social game. See him as the new Johnny. Nany- can go either way as far as athleticism; same goes for social game. New Orleans- Overall Score: [B]5[/B] Knight- looks like a good athlete; he is, however, in the worst team. Jemmey- I pray she's a good competitor, but I doubt it. Party. Drama. Preston- will try his best. will not work. will be involved in drama. McKenzie- Same as Jemmey. Cancun- Overall Score: [B]6.5[/B] CJ- Hopefully he doesn't repeat FMII. He has potential. Jonna- Stong girl. Good Social game. Jasmine- She may not be the strongest, but she's a trooper. And a time bomb. Derek- Dead weight. Hopefully he can keep up and not drag them down. Brooklyn- Overall Score:[B] 6[/B] JD- Eh, competition wise. Eh everything wise. Sarah- One of the strongest and most influencial girl on this season. Chet- Ok competitor. Has the chance to make it far, if he tries. Devyn- Please go home. Please. Sydney- Overall Score: [B]7[/B] Dunbar- He has his moments of shine and moments of total failure. Wild card. Kelly Anne- Definetely the leader of the team. The strongest girl. Issac- Not too shabby on the Duel 2; likeable dude. Ashli- One word: broken toe. Austin- Overall Score: [B]8[/B] Wes- will probably lead the entire season. Can make it if he doesnt stir things. Lacey- Unknown. Danny- Time bomb. Potential, though. Melinda- Good competitor, will stay on the down low.

Bored, so I figured I might as well go and rank the teams since I'm really excited for this season. My Pre season rankings: 1. Las Vegas They have Alton who is easily the best Male competitor in the House. Dustin is athletic as well and I think Nany can also be a good competitor as well. Like the poster above said, could you imagine if it was Roylee instead of Dustin? Leroy who is a good competitor added with the fact that everyone gets along with him, combined with Alton, This team would have dominated, and the scary thing is, they still can. 2. Sydney Very well rounded team and very underrated IMO. I might be a bit biased here since this is my favorite team but I feel that they have the best female in this challenge, Dunbar isn't unstoppable or anything but he is a champion and has a decent social game. Isaac is also a decent competitor from what I remember. 3. Austin This team looks good on paper, but can they put all the drama aside? Danny and Melinda braking up, Wes sending Danny home on FMII, etc. If they can put these things aside they should do well and have potential to have a good alliance with the Sydney cast. 4. Cancun This team can surprise people. CJ is athletic, and is a decent competitor, and Jonna and Jasmine showed that they work great together on Rivals as underdogs. Should be easier for those 2 now since their's no "Mob" on this challenge.Only question mark here is Derek, who I don't think is made for challenges, but he does have a well rounded team.. 5. San Diego Another team that looks excellent on paper. Zach is a football athlete, and is being billed as "the next CT." Frank is also pretty strong physically and we saw on her season that Ashley works out a lot. I'm just not sure about their social game. Will challengers feel that Ashley is fake the way the SD cast members did? Will Frank's attitude cause him to get in confrontations with other cast members? Maybe some competitors feel that Zach is homophobic? We already saw him get in arguments with Jemmye on Twitter. We'll see, but I just don't see this team having a good social game. 6. St. Thomas Even though they're a rookie team, I won't put them dead last for a few reasons; We've seen from their backgrounds on Vevmo that all 4 of them are good athletes. Based on their Tweets they also seem to get along well. I think they can be a cohesive team. 7. New Orleans I haven't seen this season yet, but based on what I've heard, most posters seem to have them ranked pretty low, so I'll just take your word for it..... 8. Brooklyn Honestly, I just don't see anything going for this team really.