The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons - Discussion (Spoilers)

TSPMK2 you obv don't know Zach like I do. He is a good friend of mine and I know what went down between him and Ashley. I don't want to speak about his personal life on here. But I will say this Ashley is no sweet innocent girl like you think. And she did Zach wrong and I really hope they talk about it on the challenge

[QUOTE=rachel_28;311573]TSPMK2 you obv don't know Zach like I do. He is a good friend of mine and I know what went down between him and Ashley. I don't want to speak about his personal life on here. But I will say this Ashley is no sweet innocent girl like you think. And she did Zach wrong and I really hope they talk about it on the challenge[/QUOTE] Would you care to elaborate some on what went down between them?

[QUOTE=molds13;311577]This is not the place...[/QUOTE] Got it. Hopefully we get some insight as to what happened on this season.

[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;311576]Would you care to elaborate some on what went down between them?[/QUOTE] One word. *********. P.S: I guess Zach won this challenge, bc of the way hes writing his tweets.

[QUOTE=rachel_28;311573]TSPMK2 you obv don't know Zach [B]like I do[/B]. He is a good friend of mine and I know what went down between him and Ashley. I don't want to speak about his personal life on here. But I will say this Ashley is no sweet innocent girl like you think. And she did Zach wrong and I really hope they talk about it on the challenge[/QUOTE] Well then your opinion is probably biased and unless you are friends with Ashley as well. (not know her or know of her, but actually hang out friends) I don't think it is fair to her. Remember there are 2 sides to every story.

[QUOTE=molds13;311575]From what I've heard...don't expect Trey to make very many friends this challenge.[/QUOTE] Shocker lol

[QUOTE=molds13;311584]3 sides. Yours, mine, and the truth. ...because he's talking to people?[/QUOTE] Yepp. *********, Unfollowing, Jokes about everyone. I thought Zach was more nice guy and just sarcastic, but now? Someone said it perfectly. "[URL="http://twitter.com/ZachMTV"][COLOR=#66c1c1]@[/COLOR][B][COLOR=#009999]ZachMTV[/COLOR][/B][/URL] Has been taking shots at everyone since hes been back hahaha sounds like he took care of ''business'' during his vacation." I cant really say why. I blame on my guts.

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Zach is an extremley cocky guy. What I am noticing is the whole San Diego cast seem to be acting pretty cocky on twitter

I'd like to see Zach compete in future challenges with more than 1 "proven" male competitor.

[QUOTE=JBoBo100;311600]I'd like to see Zach compete in future challenges with more than 1 "proven" male competitor.[/QUOTE] Who do you think the 1 "proven" male competitor is? Your quotes make me think you are using sarcastically to describe Wes but that would mean you are leaving out Alton.

I got the vibe Trey didn't really make friends because no one is tweeting him. Everyone seems to love Robb and Marie, which I understand. I adore them but I wonder who Trey has bad blood with.

[QUOTE=JEKFAN;311602]I got the vibe Trey didn't really make friends because no one is tweeting him. Everyone seems to love Robb and Marie, which I understand. I adore them but I wonder who Trey has bad blood with.[/QUOTE] I get that vibe also because molds said so. I believe he was following everyone before filming actually started but he is no longer following the entire SD team and Knight.

[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;311601]Who do you think the 1 "proven" male competitor is? Your quotes make me think you are using sarcastically to describe Wes but that would mean you are leaving out Alton.[/QUOTE] Lol forgot about Wes, I was talking about Alton when I said that. Even then, I'd like to see him in a big-hitter filled challenge. One More Duel! :D

I'm going on a limb here and say there's a good chance Zach was apart of the winning team this season. That being said I guess we could compare him to Landon who was the first 1st challenge rookie male to win a challenge since Landon on the Inferno 2.

We won't actually know until we see him compete, Landon was a beast at these lol. Would be interesting if he decided to come back, same with Darrell, but he's said only way that'll happen is if a Duel comes by.

[QUOTE=JBoBo100;311604]Lol forgot about Wes, I was talking about Alton when I said that. Even then, I'd like to see him in a big-hitter filled challenge. One More Duel! :D[/QUOTE] Perhaps Wes was just there for the paycheck and didn't want to stick around.

[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;311606]I'm going on a limb here and say there's a good chance Zach was apart of the winning team this season. That being said I guess we could compare him to Landon who was the first 1st challenge rookie male to win a challenge since Landon on the Inferno 2.[/QUOTE] Landon is in a class of his own... probably the best male challenger ever...I refuse to compare Zach to him after one challenge he "maybe" won against a house full of rookies/deadweight :torch: (okay calmed down again...) :) Fact is, he is probably going to be good...I mean he is probably the biggest competitor who has ever appeared on a challenge before as far as his frame goes. I would say he is even bigger than Mark. But here is the thing, they very well could have run this whole challenge and Zach could have very well been the alpha male, but let's take this "dominance" with a grain of salt, because would they had been in a more cutthroat environment (see JEK)...they wouldn't have made it far I believe... People were complaining about JEK and all the **** that comes with them, but it should be clear that with them not being there others will just too gladly step up to be in their powerhouse position.

[QUOTE=LexBlair;311669] People were complaining about JEK and all the **** that comes with them, but it should be clear that with them not being there others will just too gladly step up to be in their powerhouse position.[/QUOTE] The problem is that JEK has been in this position for far too long. The last couple of seasons (five or six) either JEK, one of them or their sheananigans were in the ph position. Other, younger or just the ones with potential hadnt the chance to shine and thats why the challenges has become too predictable. I wouldnt mind to see new ones there. Keep in mind. If Zach won, that means that either Ashley or Sam won, too. Fake all over the place.

[QUOTE=rachel_28;311563]Ashley is no good girl! She is so fake! I really hope BMP shows how fake she is! The things she pulled on Zach, I really hope we get to see the REAL Ashley not the fake I am so innocent and good girl Ashley![/QUOTE] It's not like she has anyone fooled. It seems like she's pretty much universally hated by most fans of the show.

[QUOTE=David079;311700]It's not like she has anyone fooled. It seems like she's pretty much universally hated by most fans of the show.[/QUOTE] This is untrue. Yes the die hard forum reading fans hate Ashley because she isn't an over-the-top, crazy drama queen or a sloppy drunk *** psychopath. But she has almost 30,000 twitter followers which is more than most veteran challengers/real worlders, and most rookies. I think that stat alone disproves your statement. The harsh Ashley banter is extemely annoying, so she isn't very entertaining? But just because she isn't a party girl, or crazy, or an over-the-top personality, and happens to be pretty, doesn't mean she deserves the mean comments people say.

[QUOTE=David079;311700]It's not like she has anyone fooled. It seems like she's pretty much universally hated by most fans of the show.[/QUOTE] I guess I am indifferent at this point toward her. I don't find her any more or less fake than most of them. She is uninteresting, but hardly worthy of hate IMO.

I am indifferent towards her. I don't Love or Hate anyone from the shows, but I didn't like how she acted on the show. I don't think people dislike her based on her not being a dramatic, party girl, but rather being a follower to Zack, and not letting herself experience things she otherwise would have, if Zack wasn't there.

How long have Zach and Ashley been broken up? I'm behind on that

[QUOTE=LexBlair;311669] People were complaining about JEK and all the **** that comes with them, but it should be clear that with them not being there others will just too gladly step up to be in their powerhouse position.[/QUOTE] Yeah but with them it was just way to easy because most of the people did nothing about it, there were a few people that stood up to the mob by themselves in the past like Katie and Ev but usually one person can't do much. And for the longest time it was just JEK and Wes/Ev as the 2 mobs, it would be cool if more new solid alliances formed for future challenges.

One person's "solid alliance" is another person's "mob" depending on who you are a superfan of and where they fall in the mix :)

Answered on her formspring account a day or so ago. Interesting comments on the rookies. When Cara Maria was asked about the St Thomas cast... Swift-pretty cool dude Laura-pretty, super duper sweet Trey-cute, nice guy Robb-mega good cook, good dude Brandon and Latoya and Marie - I don't know well enough to comment on.