[QUOTE=kvm1977;325933]Completely disagree--Cancun was running the game strategically.[/QUOTE]
I think they both were with Jonna and Frank, mainly Frank, being the masterminds.
I'm disappointed in Zach's performance so far.
He's s big and buff, you'd think he'd be unbeatable, but both Dustin and CJ were able to beat him. If he didn't have those extra inches and pounds, he wouldn't be worth much (physically). He's an average competitor at best.
[QUOTE=CherryPie;326399]I'm disappointed in Zach's performance so far.
He's s big and buff, you'd think he'd be unbeatable, but both Dustin and CJ were able to beat him. If he didn't have those extra inches and pounds, he wouldn't be worth much (physically). He's an average competitor at best.[/QUOTE]
Looks more like MJ than he does CT.
Ashley is by far the coolest person on this team. And I hear people used to hate her on her season? Why? The girl is a class act. She handles the Zach/Jonna relationship so well. When Jemmye said she didn't give a **** about it, I was like this girl is the coolest. So many would be horrible in that situation. And I like when she yelled
I'm disappointed in Zach's performance too. I thought he would be more of a leader. Johnny, Evan and Kenny are good leaders, so I wouldn't be surprised if they ate him alive on the next challenge.
[QUOTE=Camille;326415]Ashley is by far the coolest person on this team. And I hear people used to hate her on her season? Why? The girl is a class act. She handles the Zach/Jonna relationship so well. When Jemmye said she didn't give a **** about it, I was like this girl is the coolest. So many would be horrible in that situation. And I like when she yelled
I'm disappointed in Zach's performance too. I thought he would be more of a leader. Johnny, Evan and Kenny are good leaders, so I wouldn't be surprised if they ate him alive on the next challenge.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I didn't watch their season but I don't see what is not to like about Ashley. Maybe she doesn't create enough drama? Not sure...
Zach's definitely a follower not a leader--which could work to his benefit. He may fall into that Derrick/Dunbar type role.
Frank wants to be Wes which means he won't last long most of the time.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;326418]Yeah, I didn't watch their season but I don't see what is not to like about Ashley. Maybe she doesn't create enough drama? Not sure...
Zach's definitely a follower not a leader--which could work to his benefit. He may fall into that Derrick/Dunbar type role.
Frank wants to be Wes which means he won't last long most of the time.[/QUOTE]
Especially when he meets CT which will then be the first time someone has been kicked off a challenge for 1st degree murder lol
[QUOTE=Camille;326415]Ashley is by far the coolest person on this team. And I hear people used to hate her on her season? Why? The girl is a class act. She handles the Zach/Jonna relationship so well. [B]When Jemmye said she didn't give a **** about it, I was like this girl is the coolest. So many would be horrible in that situation. And I like when she yelled [/B]
I'm disappointed in Zach's performance too. I thought he would be more of a leader. Johnny, Evan and Kenny are good leaders, so I wouldn't be surprised if they ate him alive on the next challenge.[/QUOTE]
Most people wouldn't care when they were the ones to break things off...
[QUOTE=CherryPie;326399]I'm disappointed in Zach's performance so far.
He's s big and buff, you'd think he'd be unbeatable, but both Dustin and CJ were able to beat him. If he didn't have those extra inches and pounds, he wouldn't be worth much (physically). He's an average competitor at best.[/QUOTE]
I had a gut feeling he was going to be hit or miss, football players don't usually far well in Challenges.
Overall Ashley is the silver lining in this team and that is just sad and pathetic because she has yet to do anything amazing but she is better than the other 3, that's for sure.
[QUOTE=Npresh24;326618]Most people wouldn't care when they were the ones to break things off...
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No. I don't think that's true at all. It doesn't matter who broke up with who, most people would feel awkward in that situation. You have to be a strong woman to handle it as well as she did. So I say kudos.
And I never get hating castmembers for not being dramatic morons on the show. Which is what people are giving as the reason Ashley was hated on her season. Atleast she opens her mouth when she sees the men on her team acting like idiots.
[QUOTE=Camille;326642]No. I don't think that's true at all. It doesn't matter who broke up with who, most people would feel awkward in that situation. You have to be a strong woman to handle it as well as she did. So I say kudos.
And I never get hating castmembers for not being dramatic morons on the show. Which is what people are giving as the reason Ashley was hated on her season. Atleast she opens her mouth when she sees the men on her team acting like idiots.[/QUOTE]
This is what happened on RW San Diego: everyone (especially Frank, apparently) really wanted to be friends with Ashley and Zach, but they started being a couple and excluding themselves from house activities. Neither Ashley nor Zach seemed comfortable with homosexuality which bothered Frank and Sam (Frank is bi, and Sam is gay). They refused to go to Sam's lesbian night event at a club, Zach didn't support gay people in the military, etc. But they did get along really well with one of Frank's boytoys, so IDK if they didn't like Frank for being homosexual or if they didn't like Frank.
Some people also don't like her because she seemed like she was molding herself into what Zach wanted. Like the first episode she jumped in the shower with everyone, and she seemed like a carefree, fun girl, and then she started being more conservative. Was it an act? We'll never know.
The RW San Diego reunion was basically everyone vs "Zashley"
[QUOTE=LexBlair;326697]They dated for 4 moths, she broke it off and found a new boyfriend in a matter of a few days..... No need to over-analyze it...:)[/QUOTE]
What did I "over-analyze"?
[QUOTE=CherryPie;326705]What did I "over-analyze"?[/QUOTE]
lol not you;) I meant in general about how Ashley [I]should[/I] be mad and weirded out by Zach hooking up with Jonna and Trishelle and yet how [I]classy and cool[/I] she is handling [I] it[/I]..... This may be weird for us because this is usually not the norm for reality television but her behavior could be classified as perfectly normal in (real) reality..
[QUOTE=LexBlair;326712]lol not you;) I meant in general about how Ashley [I]should[/I] be mad and weirded out by Zach hooking up with Jonna and Trishelle and yet how [I]classy and cool[/I] she is handling [I] it[/I]..... This may be weird for us because this is usually not the norm for reality television but her behavior could be classified as perfectly normal in (real) reality..[/QUOTE]
I agree. I found the posts odd when this week's episode aired and people were shocked to see Ashley be mature about it. Then again there was that clip where we had Ashley say "She didn't have enough respect for me to not jump at him at first go". They never did air it though.
[QUOTE=LexBlair;326697]They dated for 4 moths, she broke it off and found a new boyfriend in a matter of a few days..... No need to over-analyze it...:)[/QUOTE]
or hook up with a random guy at a club while she was dating Zach and the guy sent the pic to Zach, very classy girl I tell you!
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;326714]I agree. I found the posts odd when this week's episode aired and people were shocked to see Ashley be mature about it. Then again there was that clip where we had Ashley say "She didn't have enough respect for me to not jump at him at first go". They never did air it though.[/QUOTE]
She will not talk anything negative about Zach and his relationship, because he knows a whole lot about her dirty laundry and I don't think she wants Zach to air it out on national TV!
[QUOTE=LexBlair;326697][B]They dated for 4 moths[/B], she broke it off and found a new boyfriend in a matter of a few days..... No need to over-analyze it...:)[/QUOTE]
They dated a bit longer than that close to 8 months
This Team has became a total trainwreck..They need to get it together soon. Because if they keep on fighting like this. They're not going to survive this game.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;326867]This Team has became a total trainwreck..They need to get it together soon. Because if they keep on fighting like this. They're not going to survive this game.[/QUOTE]
They are a train wreck right now, but all they need to do is win 1 mission and things will turn around because winning cures everything (even if it is only temporary).
[QUOTE=LexBlair;326712]lol not you;) I meant in general about how Ashley [I]should[/I] be mad and weirded out by Zach hooking up with Jonna and Trishelle and yet how [I]classy and cool[/I] she is handling [I] it[/I]..... This may be weird for us because this is usually not the norm for reality television but her behavior could be classified as perfectly normal in (real) reality..[/QUOTE]
Oh ok, got it.
[QUOTE=rachel_28;326804]She will not talk anything negative about Zach and his relationship, because he knows a whole lot about her dirty laundry and I don't think she wants Zach to air it out on national TV![/QUOTE]
How do you know this?
[QUOTE=CherryPie;326879]Oh ok, got it.
How do you know this?[/QUOTE]
I know Zach and he is a good friend of mine. If anything I am happy how mature Zach is handling things with Ashley.
This challenge has really flipped how I feel about San Diego around completely, aside from always loving Sam. During their season, I wasn't fond of Zach and Ashley because the edit made them come off as careless towards the LGBT plight. I genuinely felt bad for the turmoil that Frank felt. Now on this challenge, I've grown to love Ashley, I'm happy to see Zach stand up for himself (though not particularly happy with how he initially treated Sam during the log challenge, but he did make up for it during the elimination) and form a seemingly strong bond with Sam, at least during eliminations and with certain conversations with other cast members (Jasmine and Jonna), and my feeling towards Frank have turned upside down. I will never say I 'hate' someone, because I never understood the thought of 'hating' someone on an edited reality television show, but I am disappointed with what I've seen of him.
I feel like Zach has been way too self assured for someone who hasn't really shined yet. He also called Sarah "Down syndrome-y" or something similar on Derrick's podcast which was pretty terrible.
[QUOTE=JL81790;326931]I feel like Zach has been way too self assured for someone who hasn't really shined yet. He also called Sarah "Down syndrome-y" or something similar on Derrick's podcast which was pretty terrible.[/QUOTE]
Awful. I was just beginning to like him too. Kudos to you for actually getting through one of Derrick's podcasts though.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;326937]Awful. I was just beginning to like him too. Kudos to you for actually getting through one of Derrick's podcasts though.[/QUOTE]
I only listen out of habit at this point...they're getting to be bad. He needs Kenny or Johnny or Mark to co-host, when he's the one completely controlling it isn't very good. Evan sometimes too but he's a little too much sometimes.
[QUOTE=JL81790;326940]I only listen out of habit at this point...they're getting to be bad. He needs Kenny or Johnny or Mark to co-host, when he's the one completely controlling it isn't very good. Evan sometimes too but he's a little too much sometimes.[/QUOTE]
I would rather just have Johnny or Kenny be the permanent host and give Derrick the ax. That Ruins episode where Derrick couldn't read the sign makes more and more sense after every podcast.
I can't stand Frank. Villains can be entertaining, but to me he's not even that. he's just incredibly annoying and hypocritical. I hope he never comes back, but even though he says he's not sure if he would, he's repeatedly shown us how much of an attention ***** he is. so he probably will.
[QUOTE=kinafan2012;326953]I can't stand Frank. Villains can be entertaining, but to me he's not even that. he's just incredibly annoying and hypocritical. I hope he never comes back, but even though he says he's not sure if he would, he's repeatedly shown us how much of an attention ***** he is. so he probably will.[/QUOTE]
I actually want him to seriously get beat up in the streets.
He's just a disgrace. A hypocritical disgrace to the human race.
If someone would lead me to him I would deck him in the face without thinking twice that's how much I can't stand this dude lol he's not even good entertainment he's just annoying.
Can't wait to see Zito do some justice.
Easy JayTee, just breathe... remember, he's just a dude on TV, most likely hamming it up for the cameras. Not worth the effort to get worked up over entertainment :)
[QUOTE=JayTee;326956]I actually want him to seriously get beat up in the streets.
He's just a disgrace. A hypocritical disgrace to the human race.
If someone would lead me to him I would deck him in the face without thinking twice that's how much I can't stand this dude lol he's not even good entertainment he's just annoying.
Can't wait to see Zito do some justice.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Frank is garbage. I'm somewhat the same way where I'd only like to see him back if he gets humiliated by a vet, but even then I'm not sure if it's worth it.
Probably better if he doesn't come back.
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