[QUOTE=Nightwolf;330096]Gay vs. Straight would require there to be a fair balance of gay and lesbian cast members, and I'm not sure how they could do that.
Here's a list of the gay cast members from the last 5 seasons:
Tyler, Frank, JD, Derek, Preston, Davis, Ryan
I'm not even gonna count the lesbian side since it's even smaller if I'm not mistaken so it'd be pretty damn hard to make that fair.[/QUOTE]
That team would include Ryan, Brooke, and Sam. Gee I wonder who would win there...
I also definitely think people want to see Rooks vs. Vets, but I'd much rather see a Ruins over a Gauntlet.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;330096][B]Gay vs. Straight[/B] would require there to be a fair balance of gay and lesbian cast members, and I'm not sure how they could do that.
Here's a list of the gay cast members from the last 5 seasons:
Tyler, Frank, JD, Derek, Preston, Davis, Ryan
I'm not even gonna count the lesbian side since it's even smaller if I'm not mistaken so it'd be pretty damn hard to make that fair.[/QUOTE]
MTV can't do "Gay vs. Straight." That reality competition show is registered to another company. MTV passed on the opportunity to pick it up a few years ago.
[QUOTE=gamer73;330084]Why do people think Lacey will be back? She didn't do anything for the one episode she was on.[/QUOTE]
I think people want her back because she was hilarious.
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;330092]If the producers are smart they wouldn't pick Rookies vs Vets. No one cares about that, unless they're a superfan, and if so they will be watching either way.
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Nope. I think this would be the perfect way to introduce new challengers to the audience and pass the torch. Since a rookie revolution has already been started.
[QUOTE=GDInstall;330103]Nope. I think this would be the perfect way to introduce new challengers to the audience and pass the torch. Since a rookie revolution has already been started.[/QUOTE]
Except that the rookies would probably go the way of The Ruins and look like **** so that doesn't look good for them.
However this is exactly what I want to see so I'd be fine with this
[QUOTE=GDInstall;330103]Nope. I think this would be the perfect way to introduce new challengers to the audience and pass the torch. Since a rookie revolution has already been started.[/QUOTE]
People make out as though Rivals and Exes were amazingly successful, averaging 2 million hardily successful. The show needs to get brand new viewers not try and bring back the old ones.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;330106]Except that the rookies would probably go the way of The Ruins and look like **** so that doesn't look good for them.
However this is exactly what I want to see so I'd be fine with this[/QUOTE]
If I would be in charge of BMP/MTV I would say that 3 or less challenge would be rookies and 4 or more challenge would be a veteran.
Zach, Leroy, Trey/Swift, CJ, Dustin, Knight, Frank, Isaac, Cohutta, Marlon, Johnny R., KellyAnne, Ashley, Emily, Nany, Heather, Cooke would be a pretty good, solid team
[QUOTE=GDInstall;330103]Nope. I think this would be the perfect way to introduce new challengers to the audience and pass the torch. Since a rookie revolution has already been started.[/QUOTE]
What rookie revolution? The didn't revolt against anyone
This season was catered to rookies so hopefully we get a rookies-veterans format and see just how poor strategist some of these people are.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;330110]What rookie revolution? The didn't revolt against anyone
This season was catered to rookies so hopefully we get a rookies-veterans format and see just how poor strategist some of these people are.[/QUOTE]
Thats how I see it, too. But Frank/Zach/Knight called it this way on twitter, starting a massive twitter war between JEK and them.
[QUOTE=GDInstall;330112]Thats how I see it, too. But Frank/Zach/Knight called it this way on twitter, starting a massive twitter war between JEK and them.[/QUOTE]
Yeah--Zach, Frank and Knight all seem dumb enough not to comprehend what the word revolution means.
Before I go on to talk about Frank's little "twitter wars" in the 1st page of this thread, under the top moments section it says "Leroy and Mike win first challenge and vets come in last (Rivals)" umm don't you mean Leroy and Adam Royer?
Anyways, I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing the BS Frank and Zach have been spewing out on twitter.
Frank thinks he's so tough behind a keyboard he:
1) Always tries to instigate drama with Heather
2) Subtweets about a lot of people
3) Calls Dustin irrelevant on twitter when clearly Dustin has more followers so that makes him a little more relevant than Frank
4) Whines about the vets foreshadowing his actions (I mean who wouldn't? If there's a challenge and Frank is leading the house then this clearly isn't a challenge and is a special olympics tournament like Johnny Bananas said a few days ago lol)
5) Talks smack to random people expressing their opinions
6) Makes threats even though he never goes through with them (Like when he said "there are no rules this time just know this I'm coming for you #TheChallenge #WigsWillFly, referring to the reunion and Dustin but did he do anything? I'll let you figure that one out later today.)
7) He is still playing the victim card whenever someone says something about his bully antics on the challenge.
How do I know this stuff? I follow Dustin, Heather, Johnny B and Zach on twitter so I see the stuff they say and Frank is usually the topic.
[QUOTE=Lola88;330051]Technically CJ, Jonna and Jasmine are no longer rookies...and I hope to never see them on a show again actually.
Dustin is also no longer a rookie.
Of the rookies that are still rookies after this challenge that I think we will see back on another challenge are Frank, Zach, Devyn, Marie, Trey, Jemmye, Knight and Lacey.
I think that Ashley, McKenzie, Laura and Robb also may get another opportunity.
[B]I dont see Sam or Preston returning[/B].[/QUOTE]
I agree with Preston, but I think Sam would do another one. Maybe if she wasn't on a team with Frank and Zach or if they weren't even there. It doesn't really seem like she has much going on in her real life for her to turn down an opportunity to do another challenge.
Of everyone on Battle of the Seasons here is who I think will do another challenge if asked.
Danny- Yes
Wes- Yes
Lacey- Won't be invited
Melinda- No
Alton- No
Dustin- Yes
Nany- Yes
Trishelle- Unfortunately, yes
Frank, Zach, Ashley, and Sam- Yes
Derek, CJ, Jonna, and Jasmine- Yes
Knight- Yes
Jemmye- Yes
Mckenzie- Won't be invited
Preston- No
Eric- No
Brandon- Unfortunately, yes
Cara Maria- Of coarse
Camila- Yes
Chet- Yes
J.D.- Won't be invited
Sarah- Yes
Devyn- No
Trey- Yes
Robb- Yes
Marie- Yes
Laura- Won't be invited
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;330262]Of everyone on Battle of the Seasons here is who I think will do another challenge if asked.
Danny- Yes
Wes- Yes
Lacey- Won't be invited
Melinda- No
Alton- No
Dustin- Yes
Nany- Yes
Trishelle- Unfortunately, yes
Frank, Zach, Ashley, and Sam- Yes
Derek, CJ, Jonna, and Jasmine- Yes
Knight- Yes
Jemmye- Yes
Mckenzie- Won't be invited
Preston- No
Eric- No
Brandon- Unfortunately, yes
Cara Maria- Of coarse
Camila- Yes
Chet- Yes
J.D.- Won't be invited
Sarah- Yes
Devyn- No
Trey- Yes
Robb- Yes
Marie- Yes
Laura- Won't be invited[/QUOTE]
I agree with most of this. Eric might do one ... so long as Camila / Laurel aren't on it.
Devyn said she might do another one on one of her youtube videos.
I think Laura might be invited back. Just cause you can't invite Trey without inviting Laura. And Laura said she would definitely do another one if asked.
[QUOTE=alaskak94;330268]I agree with most of this. Eric might do one ... so long as Camila / Laurel aren't on it.
Devyn said she might do another one on one of her youtube videos.
I think Laura might be invited back. Just cause you can't invite Trey without inviting Laura. And Laura said she would definitely do another one if asked.[/QUOTE]
Not sure if that's true as Laurel was the one to back out of appearing on this season, rather than Eric. I doubt he'd care about anyone's presence too much to not be on the show and get money.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;330270]Not sure if that's true as Laurel was the one to back out of appearing on this season, rather than Eric. I doubt he'd care about anyone's presence too much to not be on the show and get money.[/QUOTE]
Why would he?! Seriously, though....
I mean lets be honest here Laurel´s, Camila´s, Johnny´s or whomever´s presence does not influence his gameplay in any way, [I]they [/I]don´t make him lose great amount of money,[I] they[/I] don´t quit on him, [I]they[/I] are the one who are stuck with him (if partnered/teamed up) and not the other way around ....
I know it´s harsh and it´s amazing that he makes an effort to lose weight and become healthier but he is who he is... I highly doubt people(well besides Laurel in heat;) would brother him much wouldn´t it be for his anchor status... He actually seems to be a pretty chill dude to be around...
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;330272]Woah woah woah, Brandon is the man![/QUOTE]
I didn't mind him on his first 3 challenges but he just proved that he is a scared coward on Battle of the Seasons with his stupid speech for not wanting to go into the Arena in episode 2. He's an idiot. And I don't think he is that good at these challenges either.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;330274]I didn't mind him on his first 3 challenges but he just proved that he is a scared coward on Battle of the Seasons with his stupid speech for not wanting to go into the Arena in episode 2. He's an idiot. And I don't think he is that good at these challenges either.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. From what has been said, everyone knew Big Easy had to go home for Fresh Meat to have a shot at winning. Eric went in first because he screwed up, why should Brandon have to go next if he didn't screw up in any way? Let's not even mention how Brandon was wrongly put in episode 3, even though Easy screwed up again. Speaking of him as a competitor, he's decent. He'll never be a Landon or CT, but he's good. Had we had a more conditioned Ty on Rivals, they could have taken out Wes and Kenny.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;330262]Of everyone on Battle of the Seasons here is who I think will do another challenge if asked.
Danny- Yes
Wes- Yes
Lacey- Won't be invited
Melinda- No
Alton- No
Dustin- Yes
Nany- Yes
Trishelle- Unfortunately, yes
Frank, Zach, Ashley, and Sam- Yes
Derek, CJ, Jonna, and Jasmine- Yes
Knight- Yes
Jemmye- Yes
Mckenzie- Won't be invited
Preston- No
Eric- No
Brandon- Unfortunately, yes
Cara Maria- Of coarse
Camila- Yes
Chet- Yes
J.D.- Won't be invited
Sarah- Yes
Devyn- No
Trey- Yes
Robb- Yes
Marie- Yes
Laura- Won't be invited[/QUOTE]
Devyn defiantly will do another challenge, as stated in one of her Youtube videos. Also, she was invited to compete in [B]The Ruins[/B], the Challenge right after Brooklyn, but declined due to conflicts with her schedule..
Jasmine [I]says[/I] she's retired. I think we'll just have to wait and see if this is true or not, because I can see her coming back, not right away, but maybe in like a year or so?
I honestly don't really see Ashley coming back. She just doesn't add much to this show, she was never involved in any of the drama, especially compared to the rest of her team.
[QUOTE=arilicious;330287]
I honestly don't really see Ashley coming back. She just doesn't add much to this show, she was never involved in any of the drama, especially compared to the rest of her team.[/QUOTE]
I feel like she will be back. I think every show needs a few low key people to make the crazy people seem even crazier, the Brandons, the Derricks, the Emilys. If it's just a house full of the 24-30 loudest people they can find I feel like you wouldn't have a show because everyone would just be screaming all the time. She's pretty and she's a good competitor, I think that may be enough for them to bring her back.
[QUOTE=JL81790;330291]I feel like she will be back. I think every show needs a few low key people to make the crazy people seem even crazier, the Brandons, the Derricks, the Emilys. If it's just a house full of the 24-30 loudest people they can find I feel like you wouldn't have a show because everyone would just be screaming all the time. She's pretty and she's a good competitor, I think that may be enough for them to bring her back.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree. It'd get boring fast seeing a house of 30 complete lunatics running around.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;330274]I didn't mind him on his first 3 challenges but he just proved that he is a scared coward on Battle of the Seasons with his stupid speech for not wanting to go into the Arena in episode 2. He's an idiot. And I don't think he is that good at these challenges either.[/QUOTE]
No one should want to go into an elimination round.
And he was right with everything he said--Eric should have gone in every time.
Brandon went in every time when he was the weak link on Cutthroat-even voted himself in when he struggled in the swimming mission.
Brandon & Camila/Cara Maria (especially Camila) could have been dangerous.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;330270]Not sure if that's true as Laurel was the one to back out of appearing on this season, rather than Eric. I doubt he'd care about anyone's presence too much to not be on the show and get money.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I guess it should be the other way around. But I don't know if Eric would say yes if knew Laurel was on.
Either way, he sure as hell will not be on with Camila. He purposely gave up on her ... and as I recall it they were actually beating JD and Devyn and Eric quit. He wouldn't be in a good place if he were on a challenge with Laurel and Camila.
[QUOTE=alaskak94;330301]Yeah I guess it should be the other way around. But I don't know if Eric would say yes if knew Laurel was on.
Either way, he sure as hell will not be on with Camila. He purposely gave up on her ... and as I recall it they were actually beating JD and Devyn and Eric quit. He wouldn't be in a good place if he were on a challenge with Laurel and Camila.[/QUOTE]
If Laurel said yes, it would be been Laurel and Cara Maria, not Camila.
I think Laurel and CM work better together than Laurel and Camila would have anyway.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;330305]If Laurel said yes, it would be been Laurel and Cara Maria, not Camila.
I think Laurel and CM work better together than Laurel and Camila would have anyway.[/QUOTE]
Oh I meant on future challenges sorry didn't clarify
I would like for the next challenge to not involve teams or pairs but just single. We've seen Exes Rivals and Seasons. We're due for a concept like the Duel.
As far as who I would like to see in the next season, anything goes. We had a lot of fresh faces this season and I loved it. I would be interested to see how vets aka. 'challenge *****s' like Paula & Johnny cope with the newbies.
Knight, Jeymme, Marie, Robb, Trishelle please do back to back challenges.
Leroy, Coral, Katie Doyle, Veronica, Derrick please return.
If the next season is possibly the last, and even if it isn't, they should do a Battle of the Best format. Take a winning guy and girl from most of each of the Challenge seasons, pair them up, and have the teams compete:
BOTS2: Ashley/Zach
Exes: Johnny/Camila
Rivals: Tyler/Paula
Cutthroat: Brad/Tori
FMII: Landon/Carley
Ruins: Susie/Derrick
Duel2: Evan/Rachel
Island: Evelyn/Kenny
Gauntlet3: Frank/Jillian
Inferno3: Abram/Janelle
Duel: Wes/Jodi
FM: Darrell/Aviv
Gauntlet2: Alton/Ibis
Inferno1: Timmy/Katie
Gauntlet1: Adam L/Sarah G
BOTS: Coral/Danny R
Extreme: Julie/Syrus
C2000: Yes/Holly
C1: Mark/Roni
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