[QUOTE=JayTee;396454]Laurel was drunk out her mind. Evelyn doesn't drink and when she does she doesn't get wasted like how Laurel was.[/QUOTE]
Laurel was able to do only one pull up on fm2. Evelyn can do 19 dead hang pull ups. Evelyn is pretty **** strong. Pound for pound she is significantly stronger than Laurel
Laurel is good but not invincible. Cara actually outranked Laurel in athleticism on Fresh Meat 2, and that was when Cara wasn't in as good of shaoe bc of her endurance. Im sure now, she could keep up with Laurel. Laurel has competition, people just aren't giving the other girls credit.
[QUOTE=Coralfan;396459]It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Frank was enemy number one going into this challenge. Considering his history with some of the competitors. Nia as well.[/QUOTE]
I saw Frank comment on Nia's Instagram, though.
[QUOTE=Coralfan;396462]Laurel is good but not invincible. Cara actually outranked Laurel in athleticism on Fresh Meat 2, and that was when Cara wasn't in as good of shaoe bc of her endurance. Im sure now, she could keep up with Laurel. Laurel has competition, people just aren't giving the other girls credit.[/QUOTE]
Lets not get to carried away, Cara is nowhere near Laurel...
[QUOTE=Coralfan;396462]Laurel is good but not invincible. Cara actually outranked Laurel in athleticism on Fresh Meat 2, and that was when Cara wasn't in as good of shaoe bc of her endurance. Im sure now, she could keep up with Laurel. Laurel has competition, people just aren't giving the other girls credit.[/QUOTE]
Cara has yet to live up to her hype, though. She's been consistently carried by others. It says a lot that on multiple challenges, she's been outperformed by multiple women (Laurel, Camilla, Emily, Diem, Cooke, Jenn, Sarah, etc.).
[QUOTE=hannamez8;396464]I saw Frank comment on Nia's Instagram, though.[/QUOTE]
I meant that Nia is also a target like Frank for the same reasons. I would even wager they partner up this challenge.
Don't get
I know this is completely out of topic and do what you will BUT the delusion on some members new to the challenge regarding Laurel and Evelyn is ridiculous.
Evelyn will DOMINATE Laurel in a physical elimination round. Size means nothing. Laurel can't even go above two pull-ups, Ev can do like 19 or 20, she is nowhere near Evelyn and Emily's level of pure STRENGTH. Laurel hasn't done anything yet to prove she's better than Evelyn, in ANY way physical or mental. Ev already beat her *** in a wrestling match, has proven to be stronger than her in missions, in the only solo mission on rivals (the one near the end when they had to climb and Ct DQ'ed) she beat Laurel, awwww EV is so "little" yet it made Alton "look like a punk" on Inferno 3 when Ev beat him in a water mission and Alton said "SHES MOVING OUR BOAT!!", or when Ev dominated the last female challenge on I3 and Alton said "Ev killed it I think she even did better than my time", etc.
Laurel is a very good athletic competitor who's mouth make her seem tougher than she is and who's tall and people confused that with "beast" and "strength", and is a better than the average challenge girl. Thats it. But not better than THREE TIME CHAMPION Evelyn or Emily.
Oh and fun fact, I asked Derrick on twitter a while ago he's opinion if Ev was the best female to be on a challenge and he didn't reply "yes" or "maybe", he said "EASILY".
*Ends out of topic post*
[QUOTE=Coralfan;396472]I meant that Nia is also a target like Frank for the same reasons. I would even wager they partner up this challenge.
Don't get[/QUOTE]
I think that was then on the bike in the trailer
[QUOTE=JohnPhoenix;396497]I know this is completely out of topic and do what you will[B] BUT the delusion on some members new to the challenge regarding Laurel and Evelyn is ridiculous.
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[B]Evelyn will DOMINATE Laurel in a physical elimination round[/B]. Size means nothing. Laurel can't even go above two pull-ups, Ev can do like 19 or 20, she is nowhere near Evelyn and Emily's level of pure STRENGTH. Laurel hasn't done anything yet to prove she's better than Evelyn, in ANY way physical or mental. Ev already beat her *** in a wrestling match, has proven to be stronger than her in missions, in the only solo mission on rivals (the one near the end when they had to climb and Ct DQ'ed) she beat Laurel, awwww EV is so "little" yet it made Alton "look like a punk" on Inferno 3 when Ev beat him in a water mission and Alton said "SHES MOVING OUR BOAT!!", or when Ev dominated the last female challenge on I3 and Alton said "Ev killed it I think she even did better than my time", etc.
Laurel is a very good athletic competitor who's mouth make her seem tougher than she is and who's tall and people confused that with "beast" and "strength", and is a better than the average challenge girl. Thats it. But not better than THREE TIME CHAMPION Evelyn or Emily.
Oh and fun fact, I asked Derrick on twitter a while ago he's opinion if Ev was the best female to be on a challenge and he didn't reply "yes" or "maybe", he said "EASILY".
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Ridiculous. Exactly. Hmm....
It's funny how people can underestimate Laurel who has been to 4 finals, won 4 eliminations and is considered amongst challengers as a beast, and then Theresa is considered some big time competitor here, but has been on 4 challenges and still hasn't made a final, has yet to win an elimination and seems to be on none of the females radar as begin a good competitor.
And this challenge shouldn't even count for her, because the women this season are lacking in competitiveness
[QUOTE=Lola88;396500]It's funny how people can underestimate Laurel who has been to 4 finals, won 4 eliminations and is considered amongst challengers as a beast, and then Theresa is considered some big time competitor here, but has been on 4 challenges and still hasn't made a final, has yet to win an elimination and seems to be on none of the females radar as begin a good competitor.
And this challenge shouldn't even count for her, because the women this season are lacking in competitiveness[/QUOTE]
Nobody is underestimating her we are just saying Evelyn is better....
I'm not going to say Theresa is a great competitor because IMO she isn't but she could prove me wrong this time.
[QUOTE=Lola88;396500]It's funny how people can underestimate Laurel who has been to 4 finals, won 4 eliminations and is considered amongst challengers as a beast, and then Theresa is considered some big time competitor here, but has been on 4 challenges and still hasn't made a final, has yet to win an elimination and seems to be on none of the females radar as begin a good competitor.
And this challenge shouldn't even count for her, because the women this season are lacking in competitiveness[/QUOTE]
No one considered Theresa to be some big time competitor. This is something you're forming in your head, because no one's ever said it.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;396504]No one considered Theresa to be some big time competitor. This is something you're forming in your head, because no one's ever said it.[/QUOTE]
Some people wrote 2 days ago that she is one of the best girls after Emily/Laurel still doing challenges...
When in reality that girl prior this challenge hasn't even win an elimination. I personally think that Cara/Camila/Sarah/etc are still better than her.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;396512]Some people wrote 2 days ago that she is one of the best girls after Emily/Laurel still doing challenges...
When in reality that girl prior this challenge hasn't even win an elimination. I personally think that Cara/Camila/Sarah/etc are still better than her.[/QUOTE]
I think Theresa has potential we haven't seen her compete alone in eliminations besides cutthroat. I'd say Camila is better and Sarah too, but Cara hasn't been that impressive either. She beat Lacey and Mandi in something physical, Theresa could of done that. Cara has had good partners Cooke,Abram, and Laurel. Theresa has had Ryan, Jasmine, and Camila, with Camila only being the good competitor. Let's see how both of them do this season.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;396512]Some people wrote 2 days ago that she is one of the best girls after Emily/Laurel still doing challenges...
When in reality that girl prior this challenge hasn't even win an elimination. I personally think that Cara/Camila/Sarah/etc are still better than her.[/QUOTE]
That person also corrected themselves when they forgot Camila and Sarah. Cara is definitely not better than her. Cara's had the luxury of getting partners that carry her--Abe, Laurel, Cooke and Theresa gets Ryan and Jasmine.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;396460]Laurel was able to do only one pull up on fm2. Evelyn can do 19 dead hang pull ups. Evelyn is pretty **** strong. Pound for pound she is significantly stronger than Laurel[/QUOTE]
My gym buddy weighs 160 and I weigh 185 and he always does more pull ups than me because of how skinny he is and how much less weight he has to pull. I bench almost twice what he can bench though. Pull ups are all about how much you weigh. Evelyn is a feather compared to Laurel.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;396501]Nobody is underestimating her we are just saying Evelyn is better....
I'm not going to say Theresa is a great competitor because IMO she isn't but she could prove me wrong this time.[/QUOTE]
As if Evelyn never went into a challenge with weak female competitors before...
[QUOTE=JayTee;396548]My gym buddy weighs 160 and I weigh 185 and he always does more pull ups than me because of how skinny he is and how much less weight he has to pull. I bench almost twice what he can bench though. Pull ups are all about how much you weight. Evelyn is a feather compared to Laurel.[/QUOTE]
You still haven't given a reason behind laurel winning, the bigger person doesn't always win
See Derrick vs Syrus Camilla vs Emilee,Zach vs CJ and Diem VS Jenn the bigger person lost...
[QUOTE=JayTee;396551]As if Evelyn never went into a challenge with weak female competitors before...[/QUOTE]
What how did you get that from me saying Evelyn is better.....
Can we please stop with this whole "Evelyn vs. Laurel" charade? It's getting pretty aggravating.
We don't know how Evelyn and Laurel would fare out if they went against each other [B]at their prime![/B]
Do you honestly believe that Evelyn is still in the same shape she was in since she's been at Harvard Law?
If she had kept her muscles in tone, then it could be an interesting match to see...
And please don't go with the FM2 wrestling...think of something else; otherwise, don't bother.
Now, if you don't mind, please take this mindless drabble somewhere else...I don't know, say the [B]Generic Thread[/B] back on the [B]Generic[/B] sub-forum!
[QUOTE=ItalianBeats;396557]Can we please stop with this whole "Evelyn vs. Laurel" charade? It's getting pretty aggravating.
We don't know how Evelyn and Laurel would fare out if they went against each other [B]at their prime![/B]
Do you honestly believe that Evelyn is still in the same shape she was in since she's been at Harvard Law?
If she had kept her muscles in tone, then it could be an interesting match to see...
And please don't go with the FM2 wrestling...think of something else; otherwise, don't bother.
Now, if you don't mind, please take this mindless drabble somewhere else...I don't know, say the [B]Generic Thread[/B] back on the [B]Generic[/B] sub-forum![/QUOTE]
I always find it funny how frustrated people get about challenge talk in a challenge forum.
[QUOTE=27502;396559]I always find it funny how frustrated people get about challenge talk in a challenge forum.[/QUOTE]
I don't mind the challenge talk; however, this topic is for the upcoming season, and thoughts on the trailer(s) that came out a couple days ago...
Challenge talk can be done in the Generic thread; that is all I'm pointing out.
[QUOTE=ItalianBeats;396560]I don't mind the challenge talk; however, this topic is for the upcoming season, and thoughts on the trailer(s) that came out a couple days ago...
Challenge talk can be done in the Generic thread; that is all I'm pointing out.[/QUOTE]
This started out with trailer talk based on the picture of laurel vs LaToya or Aneesa then it turned into this debate after someone said losing to laurel means you're not a strong competitor
[QUOTE=ItalianBeats;396560]I don't mind the challenge talk; however, this topic is for the upcoming season, and thoughts on the trailer(s) that came out a couple days ago...
Challenge talk can be done in the Generic thread; that is all I'm pointing out.[/QUOTE]
Who cares? It is funny how worked up people get over nothing. All the "spoilers" have been posted. It comes down to whether you believe Pink ROses sources or not. So relax if people discuss matters besides spoilers, I can't imagine the meaningless **** that gets up riled up in real life
[QUOTE=ItalianBeats;396560]I don't mind the challenge talk; however, this topic is for the upcoming season, and thoughts on the trailer(s) that came out a couple days ago...
Challenge talk can be done in the Generic thread; that is all I'm pointing out.[/QUOTE]
Whoops, double
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;396562]This started out with trailer talk based on the picture of laurel vs LaToya or Aneesa then it turned into this debate after someone said losing to laurel means you're not a strong competitor[/QUOTE]
...It depends.
It shouldn't deter Aneesa's status as a strong competitor in eliminations.
If it's LaToya, let's see if she can put up a fight against one of the best.
[QUOTE=27502;396563]Who cares? It is funny how worked up people get over nothing. All the "spoilers" have been posted. It comes down to whether you believe Pink ROses sources or not. So relax if people discuss matters besides spoilers, I can't imagine the meaningless **** that gets up riled up in real life[/QUOTE]
...There are still certain things being leaked out here...
And plus, I'm not too sold on the spoilers given out this season by anyone, since:
a.) I tend to side with molds, who is not here that much
b.) I'm not sure how to trust the other posters
I'll watch the season and compare notes to who said what and what actually goes down before I believe in what people say...needless to say, I'm more excited about this challenge than any ones before.
[QUOTE=ItalianBeats;396565]...It depends.
It shouldn't deter Aneesa's status as a strong competitor in eliminations.
If it's LaToya, let's see if she can put up a fight against one of the best.
...There are still certain things being leaked out here...
And plus, I'm not too sold on the spoilers given out this season by anyone, since:
a.) I tend to side with molds, who is not here that much
b.) I'm not sure how to trust the other posters
I'll watch the season and compare notes to who said what and what actually goes down before I believe in what people say...needless to say, I'm more excited about this challenge than any ones before.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I agree the spoilers are not exactly trustworthy. However, props to Rose, as she is the only one saying her spoilers are correct. Besides that no one is, so I am not sure what you mean by "things are still being leaked". Again, I am not sure how you can get so worked up over posting in the forums, legitimate arguments also btw
[QUOTE=27502;396566]Yes, I agree the spoilers are not exactly trustworthy. However, props to Rose, as she is the only one saying her spoilers are correct. Besides that no one is, so I am not sure what you mean by "things are still being leaked". Again, I am not sure how you can get so worked up over posting in the forums, legitimate arguments also btw[/QUOTE]
Some apprentice came on the speculation page and gave a couple pointers about what he/she heard...so again, everything is all up in the air.
It's not just me that gets tired of seeing the "A vs. B" argument, who's better, etc. It's just that I speak up about it.
You can't compare one vs. the other out of a couple factors, mainly the fact of being in their prime.
I don't know; it's just idiotic IMHO how people ***** and whine when others have different opinions from their own...
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