How bout when he said he was going to beat Adam on the gauntlet 3, then lost, or how he said he was going to destroy Davis on the inferno 3, then he got his *** whooped lol
Danny is pathetic competition-wise and I used to hate him but he wasn't to bad on the last couple of challenges he was on.
And Tori..She was awful on all of the challenges she's been on. I'd rather her not come back. Brad..I like him, one of my favorite castmembers..But I don't think he should come back either. He's got a family and a buisness an in addtiiton to this I don't think there's much more he can bring to the challenges. He can stay home.
Danny is pathetic competition-wise and I used to hate him but he wasn't to bad on the last couple of challenges he was on.
And Tori..She was awful on all of the challenges she's been on. I'd rather her not come back. Brad..I like him, one of my favorite castmembers..But I don't think he should come back either. He's got a family and a buisness an in addtiiton to this I don't think there's much more he can bring to the challenges. He can stay home.
All of the bolded. Casey was absolutely pathetic at everything, NOT funny (seriously don't get this supposed funny-ness of Evan, Johnny B., & Casey AT ALL...Kenny had his moments but pale in comparison to the likes of Coral, Katie, Timmy, Devyn, etc.)
Danny was also very pathetic & it was funny that he always thought he had some type of pull in the game or that people took him seriously.
How bout when he said he was going to beat Adam on the gauntlet 3, then lost, or how he said he was going to destroy Davis on the inferno 3, then he got his *** whooped lol
Now, I can't access the Inferno 3, but I can access Gauntlet 3.
Adam said he could win against Danny, Danny's said he could outwrestle Adam.
I'm not defending his behavior, but Danny's not the one who outright said he could beat Adam. He might have puffed his chest out a bit and had a moment where he could basically brag about his skills, but he didn't say that he could beat Adam, just said that he could outwrestle him.
I can't stand Tori for her behavior, especially when she cries and gets all annoying. It's like what JEK said; she can't handle the enviornment. Those type of people shouldn't throw themselves into that kind of situation when they're expected to break down and make a complete ***** of themselves.
I don't see her as a good competitior, maybe decent enough to hold her own or something, but I've never seen Tori above good.
For Brad though, my hate towards him started after/during Cutthroat. He treated two of his teammates like shit, kept Dunbar of all people to the end, and then end up winning which just bugged me too much. I know he's good, or borderline good, but I'll be fine not seeing his face again.
I don't understand why people always give Brad shit about Cutthroat when every Vet on the challenge has played this time of game one time or another. Plus usually the end result gets you to a final which is obviously the whole point of the game. How the hell can you complain about him keeping Dunbar when it was right for his game & was the correct move overall considering they won Cutthroat. You would rather him pick Brandon who doesn't have his back & in my opinion wouldn't be able to finish a final based on how weak his endurance has been on the show. Makes total sense lol.
How was Brandon weak in endurance. he was a bad swimmer, but i don't see how he has bad endurance.
I can't stand Tori for her behavior, especially when she cries and gets all annoying. It's like what JEK said; she can't handle the enviornment. Those type of people shouldn't throw themselves into that kind of situation when they're expected to break down and make a complete ***** of themselves.
I don't see her as a good competitior, maybe decent enough to hold her own or something, but I've never seen Tori above good.
For Brad though, my hate towards him started after/during Cutthroat. He treated two of his teammates like shit, kept Dunbar of all people to the end, and then end up winning which just bugged me too much. I know he's good, or borderline good, but I'll be fine not seeing his face again.
I don't understand why people always give Brad shit about Cutthroat when every Vet on the challenge has played this time of game one time or another. Plus usually the end result gets you to a final which is obviously the whole point of the game. How the hell can you complain about him keeping Dunbar when it was right for his game & was the correct move overall considering they won Cutthroat. You would rather him pick Brandon who doesn't have his back & in my opinion wouldn't be able to finish a final based on how weak his endurance has been on the show. Makes total sense lol.
How was Brandon weak in endurance. he was a bad swimmer, but i don't see how he has bad endurance.
actually, I remember in an interview somewhere on YouTube with Brandon saying that he weakness is cardio/endurance. I still don't get why would they keep Dunbar. I admit that Brad played a a good social game like Kenny and Evan would do trying to avoid an elimination match, but the way he went about it was sh**ty. Also, they were going after their best female on the team (Camila). I wish the rest of the red team would have understood that if Brad and Tori made it to the final, that's double the money for them. Thats what they were working for. Hell, I would have rather had Paula on my final team than Tori and I hate Paula
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Paula is weak-minded as hell. Remember when TJ wanted her and Ev to pick a team to go into the elimination with CT/Adam on the spot? She looked like she was going to hyperventilate She always wants to please the alliance rather than pleasing herself. Then she gets annoyed when ppl backstab her. She's disposable. Also, physically, yea she may be a great runner but her elimination track record sucks. Also, one on one, she can't beat CM, Camila, Laurel, Kellyanne
Robin sucks. She's only won one elimination (against Casey in the Duel). She's the reason why the Vets lost Gauntlet 2 and she whine so much. She thinks just because she's a vet, she should win.
I'm actually ok with Diem because she's actually a competitor. She should have been a champion. Especially on Battle of the Exes. I just didn't like how shady she was on Rivals 2 and she always have a smart remark when she gets thrown in.
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Paula is weak-minded as hell. Remember when TJ wanted her and Ev to pick a team to go into the elimination with CT/Adam on the spot? She looked like she was going to hyperventilate She always wants to please the alliance rather than pleasing herself. Then she gets annoyed when ppl backstab her. She's disposable. Also, physically, yea she may be a great runner but her elimination track record sucks. Also, one on one, she can't beat CM, Camila, Laurel, Kellyanne
Robin sucks. She's only won one elimination (against Casey in the Duel). She's the reason why the Vets lost Gauntlet 2 and she whine so much. She thinks just because she's a vet, she should win.
I'm actually ok with Diem because she's actually a competitor. She should have been a champion. Especially on Battle of the Exes. I just didn't like how shady she was on Rivals 2 and she always have a smart remark when she gets thrown in.
Yeah I didn't mean as a competitor but as people always bashing them for not turning on JEK or whatever like they're supposed to, when they're good friends?
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
I haven't watched G3 in years so idk but were they actually friends there?
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
JEK dynasty has used Ev the same way they used Paula.
- Throwing Ev in to get rid of Coral
- Sucking up to Ev at the end to not take Bananas' key on the Island
- Trying to get Ev to do their dirty work on eliminating Kellyanne on The Ruins
- Getting Ev/Paula to vote their way and make the order for missions their way on Rivals
I respect Coral because she's a good competitor but I didn't like the way the JEK dynasty and CT wanted Coral gone when they had worse females (Robin, Casey, Katie). Especially, Evan...
Are we talking about Evelyn or Evan? Either way both acted to her face like they wanted her there while knowingly being a part of using her to take out beth and then having her go up against evelyn most likely because they thought she would lose and wanted her gone.
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
JEK dynasty has used Ev the same way they used Paula.
- Throwing Ev in to get rid of Coral
- Sucking up to Ev at the end to not take Bananas' key on the Island
- Trying to get Ev to do their dirty work on eliminating Kellyanne on The Ruins
- Getting Ev/Paula to vote their way and make the order for missions their way on Rivals
Evelyn was probably the most vocal person on that whole team about getting rid of Coral...easily moreso than Kenny or Evan (Johnny wasn't around long enough to have an opinion). In fact, Evan was shown to not want to throw Beth in against Coral and said he wanted to send in someone she could beat. DIEM disagreed and said she thought that Coral should be sent home. Kenny/Evan/CT didn't use Evelyn on Gauntlet. Evelyn wanted it. Badly.
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
JEK dynasty has used Ev the same way they used Paula.
- Throwing Ev in to get rid of Coral
- Sucking up to Ev at the end to not take Bananas' key on the Island
- Trying to get Ev to do their dirty work on eliminating Kellyanne on The Ruins
- Getting Ev/Paula to vote their way and make the order for missions their way on Rivals
I respect Coral because she's a good competitor but I didn't like the way the JEK dynasty and CT wanted Coral gone when they had worse females (Robin, Casey, Katie). Especially, Evan...
I mean how was she used? If she doesn't take Dunbar's key, she can't win. She refused to help JEK and didn't take KA out. They were in an alliance together on Rivals and treated them well. It's not like Camila/Theresa where they screwed them over to an extent.
JEK really changed the tones of these challanges. It became about them and their friends and if you werent their friend welp you're expendable including long time vets who I liked. It just completely ruined the way the game was played and thats why the gauntlet 3/the island and the ruins are the worst seasons to me. When they're split up they are fine but together it just made the whole team dynamic about them. Also their treatment of people and even of their friends is deplorable often crossing lines and making things personal while hiding behind the facade that "its just a game".
JEK really changed the tones of these challanges. It became about them and their friends and if you werent their friend welp you're expendable including long time vets who I liked. It just completely ruined the way the game was played and thats why the gauntlet 3/the island and the ruins are the worst seasons to me. When they're split up they are fine but together it just made the whole team dynamic about them. Also their treatment of people and even of their friends is deplorable often crossing lines and making things personal while hiding behind the facade that "its just a game".
Well said.
All of what you posted is the reason why I think JEK destroyed these shows and ****** up EVERYTHING. They're ERA of this show is the worst and I wish it never happened.
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
JEK dynasty has used Ev the same way they used Paula.
- Throwing Ev in to get rid of Coral
- Sucking up to Ev at the end to not take Bananas' key on the Island
- Trying to get Ev to do their dirty work on eliminating Kellyanne on The Ruins
- Getting Ev/Paula to vote their way and make the order for missions their way on Rivals
Evelyn was probably the most vocal person on that whole team about getting rid of Coral...easily moreso than Kenny or Evan (Johnny wasn't around long enough to have an opinion). In fact, Evan was shown to not want to throw Beth in against Coral and said he wanted to send in someone she could beat. DIEM disagreed and said she thought that Coral should be sent home. Kenny/Evan/CT didn't use Evelyn on Gauntlet. Evelyn wanted it. Badly.
Which is why I never have & never will be on the Ev train. She's shown extreme stupidity in most of the challenges she's done. She was so busy trying to get rid of the other best girl on the team when you still have Casey roaming around looking dumb & being useless to the team.
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
JEK dynasty has used Ev the same way they used Paula.
- Throwing Ev in to get rid of Coral
- Sucking up to Ev at the end to not take Bananas' key on the Island
- Trying to get Ev to do their dirty work on eliminating Kellyanne on The Ruins
- Getting Ev/Paula to vote their way and make the order for missions their way on Rivals
Evelyn was probably the most vocal person on that whole team about getting rid of Coral...easily moreso than Kenny or Evan (Johnny wasn't around long enough to have an opinion). In fact, Evan was shown to not want to throw Beth in against Coral and said he wanted to send in someone she could beat. DIEM disagreed and said she thought that Coral should be sent home. Kenny/Evan/CT didn't use Evelyn on Gauntlet. Evelyn wanted it. Badly.
Which is why I never have & never will be on the Ev train. She's shown extreme stupidity in most of the challenges she's done. She was so busy trying to get rid of the other best girl on the team when you still have Casey roaming around looking dumb & being useless to the team.
I mean why when she wasn't costing you challenges? Be mad she was fake about it or whatever, but why would you take out someone weak on your team when you guys are dominating?
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
JEK dynasty has used Ev the same way they used Paula.
- Throwing Ev in to get rid of Coral
- Sucking up to Ev at the end to not take Bananas' key on the Island
- Trying to get Ev to do their dirty work on eliminating Kellyanne on The Ruins
- Getting Ev/Paula to vote their way and make the order for missions their way on Rivals
Evelyn was probably the most vocal person on that whole team about getting rid of Coral...easily moreso than Kenny or Evan (Johnny wasn't around long enough to have an opinion). In fact, Evan was shown to not want to throw Beth in against Coral and said he wanted to send in someone she could beat. DIEM disagreed and said she thought that Coral should be sent home. Kenny/Evan/CT didn't use Evelyn on Gauntlet. Evelyn wanted it. Badly.
Which is why I never have & never will be on the Ev train. She's shown extreme stupidity in most of the challenges she's done. She was so busy trying to get rid of the other best girl on the team when you still have Casey roaming around looking dumb & being useless to the team.
I mean why when she wasn't costing you challenges? Be mad she was fake about it or whatever, but why would you take out someone weak on your team when you guys are dominating?
Yeah...Evelyn was friends with Casey then. Same with Paula, Robin, and Diem. If I were on a team with my friends, unless they were actively causing me to lose, I'd vote someone else off before them any day of the week. Hell, that was CT's reasoning for voting in Johnny rather than Eric (he said it on Derrick's podcast). Eric was clearly the worst guy on their team, but he was well liked and Johnny wasn't (plus they were worried about Evan).
I like Coral, but I don't think the Vets did anything wrong. There was a very tight knit group of people that were friends on that team and looking out for each other and they figured that they were so much better than the rookies that they could afford to cut a few decent people and keep around people who may have been not as good and won. They could've been more upfront but strategically I don't see a problem with it aside from not realizing how big of a problem Easy was. Had Casey been on that team at the end (without Eric there) they would've still won...so why not help out your friend and keep her around?
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
JEK dynasty has used Ev the same way they used Paula.
- Throwing Ev in to get rid of Coral
- Sucking up to Ev at the end to not take Bananas' key on the Island
- Trying to get Ev to do their dirty work on eliminating Kellyanne on The Ruins
- Getting Ev/Paula to vote their way and make the order for missions their way on Rivals
Evelyn was probably the most vocal person on that whole team about getting rid of Coral...easily moreso than Kenny or Evan (Johnny wasn't around long enough to have an opinion). In fact, Evan was shown to not want to throw Beth in against Coral and said he wanted to send in someone she could beat. DIEM disagreed and said she thought that Coral should be sent home. Kenny/Evan/CT didn't use Evelyn on Gauntlet. Evelyn wanted it. Badly.
Which is why I never have & never will be on the Ev train. She's shown extreme stupidity in most of the challenges she's done. She was so busy trying to get rid of the other best girl on the team when you still have Casey roaming around looking dumb & being useless to the team.
I mean why when she wasn't costing you challenges? Be mad she was fake about it or whatever, but why would you take out someone weak on your team when you guys are dominating?
Yeah...Evelyn was friends with Casey then. Same with Paula, Robin, and Diem. If I were on a team with my friends, unless they were actively causing me to lose, I'd vote someone else off before them any day of the week. Hell, that was CT's reasoning for voting in Johnny rather than Eric (he said it on Derrick's podcast). Eric was clearly the worst guy on their team, but he was well liked and Johnny wasn't (plus they were worried about Evan).
I like Coral, but I don't think the Vets did anything wrong. There was a very tight knit group of people that were friends on that team and looking out for each other and they figured that they were so much better than the rookies that they could afford to cut a few decent people and keep around people who may have been not as good and won. They could've been more upfront but strategically I don't see a problem with it aside from not realizing how big of a problem Easy was. Had Casey been on that team at the end (without Eric there) they would've still won...so why not help out your friend and keep her around?
Oh they did several things wrong...Keeping Eric on the team..and Better yet Keeping any/all Fresh Meat on the team. ALL of them should've been targeted.
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
JEK dynasty has used Ev the same way they used Paula.
- Throwing Ev in to get rid of Coral
- Sucking up to Ev at the end to not take Bananas' key on the Island
- Trying to get Ev to do their dirty work on eliminating Kellyanne on The Ruins
- Getting Ev/Paula to vote their way and make the order for missions their way on Rivals
Evelyn was probably the most vocal person on that whole team about getting rid of Coral...easily moreso than Kenny or Evan (Johnny wasn't around long enough to have an opinion). In fact, Evan was shown to not want to throw Beth in against Coral and said he wanted to send in someone she could beat. DIEM disagreed and said she thought that Coral should be sent home. Kenny/Evan/CT didn't use Evelyn on Gauntlet. Evelyn wanted it. Badly.
Which is why I never have & never will be on the Ev train. She's shown extreme stupidity in most of the challenges she's done. She was so busy trying to get rid of the other best girl on the team when you still have Casey roaming around looking dumb & being useless to the team.
I mean why when she wasn't costing you challenges? Be mad she was fake about it or whatever, but why would you take out someone weak on your team when you guys are dominating?
Yeah...Evelyn was friends with Casey then. Same with Paula, Robin, and Diem. If I were on a team with my friends, unless they were actively causing me to lose, I'd vote someone else off before them any day of the week. Hell, that was CT's reasoning for voting in Johnny rather than Eric (he said it on Derrick's podcast). Eric was clearly the worst guy on their team, but he was well liked and Johnny wasn't (plus they were worried about Evan).
I like Coral, but I don't think the Vets did anything wrong. There was a very tight knit group of people that were friends on that team and looking out for each other and they figured that they were so much better than the rookies that they could afford to cut a few decent people and keep around people who may have been not as good and won. They could've been more upfront but strategically I don't see a problem with it aside from not realizing how big of a problem Easy was. Had Casey been on that team at the end (without Eric there) they would've still won...so why not help out your friend and keep her around?
If had they been losing challenges legitimately and then voted Coral in because shes on the outs then fine. However they themselves created situations to get rid of her. It was simple greed. They wanted a bigger cut of the pie and even though they were winning decided to increase their earnings. Its funny that after they lost the final I remember Adam saying "I had plans for that money" which im sure they all did so they figured lets get more money and screw someone out of it. It wasn't that Coral was a bad player or anything it was simply "well you're not our friend so we're taking your money" Its completely messed up. She didn't deserve that nor did anyone on that team really at that point. On top of wanting to take money away from people they used them to get rid of other people they were trying to screw over. Like Coral. Instead of one of them earning their share of the money they wanted Coral to do their dirty work and get rid of beth meanwhile knowing that they were going to try and get her out next. Thats just ****** up. If you want more money work for it. Don't use people like pawns and then cut them off especially while pretending to be their friend. Like I said before they probably would of won the final had they actually kept Coral because she was the only person aside from Katie who would of had the balls to speak up for Eric when he was clearly not doing well instead of forcing him into being unable to medically complete. Again because they all had that greedy money first attitude and as big as a ***** Coral can be she'd probably never push big easy to the point that he got to. Their greed blinded them and it cost them.
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
JEK dynasty has used Ev the same way they used Paula.
- Throwing Ev in to get rid of Coral
- Sucking up to Ev at the end to not take Bananas' key on the Island
- Trying to get Ev to do their dirty work on eliminating Kellyanne on The Ruins
- Getting Ev/Paula to vote their way and make the order for missions their way on Rivals
Evelyn was probably the most vocal person on that whole team about getting rid of Coral...easily moreso than Kenny or Evan (Johnny wasn't around long enough to have an opinion). In fact, Evan was shown to not want to throw Beth in against Coral and said he wanted to send in someone she could beat. DIEM disagreed and said she thought that Coral should be sent home. Kenny/Evan/CT didn't use Evelyn on Gauntlet. Evelyn wanted it. Badly.
Which is why I never have & never will be on the Ev train. She's shown extreme stupidity in most of the challenges she's done. She was so busy trying to get rid of the other best girl on the team when you still have Casey roaming around looking dumb & being useless to the team.
I mean why when she wasn't costing you challenges? Be mad she was fake about it or whatever, but why would you take out someone weak on your team when you guys are dominating?
Yeah...Evelyn was friends with Casey then. Same with Paula, Robin, and Diem. If I were on a team with my friends, unless they were actively causing me to lose, I'd vote someone else off before them any day of the week. Hell, that was CT's reasoning for voting in Johnny rather than Eric (he said it on Derrick's podcast). Eric was clearly the worst guy on their team, but he was well liked and Johnny wasn't (plus they were worried about Evan).
I like Coral, but I don't think the Vets did anything wrong. There was a very tight knit group of people that were friends on that team and looking out for each other and they figured that they were so much better than the rookies that they could afford to cut a few decent people and keep around people who may have been not as good and won. They could've been more upfront but strategically I don't see a problem with it aside from not realizing how big of a problem Easy was. Had Casey been on that team at the end (without Eric there) they would've still won...so why not help out your friend and keep her around?
If had they been losing challenges legitimately and then voted Coral in because shes on the outs then fine. However they themselves created situations to get rid of her. It was simple greed. They wanted a bigger cut of the pie and even though they were winning decided to increase their earnings. Its funny that after they lost the final I remember Adam saying "I had plans for that money" which im sure they all did so they figured lets get more money and screw someone out of it. It wasn't that Coral was a bad player or anything it was simply "well you're not our friend so we're taking your money" Its completely messed up. She didn't deserve that nor did anyone on that team really at that point. On top of wanting to take money away from people they used them to get rid of other people they were trying to screw over. Like Coral. Instead of one of them earning their share of the money they wanted Coral to do their dirty work and get rid of beth meanwhile knowing that they were going to try and get her out next. Thats just ****** up. If you want more money work for it. Don't use people like pawns and then cut them off especially while pretending to be their friend. Like I said before they probably would of won the final had they actually kept Coral because she was the only person aside from Katie who would of had the balls to speak up for Eric when he was clearly not doing well instead of forcing him into being unable to medically complete. Again because they all had that greedy money first attitude and as big as a ***** Coral can be she'd probably never push big easy to the point that he got to. Their greed blinded them and it cost them.
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
JEK dynasty has used Ev the same way they used Paula.
- Throwing Ev in to get rid of Coral
- Sucking up to Ev at the end to not take Bananas' key on the Island
- Trying to get Ev to do their dirty work on eliminating Kellyanne on The Ruins
- Getting Ev/Paula to vote their way and make the order for missions their way on Rivals
Evelyn was probably the most vocal person on that whole team about getting rid of Coral...easily moreso than Kenny or Evan (Johnny wasn't around long enough to have an opinion). In fact, Evan was shown to not want to throw Beth in against Coral and said he wanted to send in someone she could beat. DIEM disagreed and said she thought that Coral should be sent home. Kenny/Evan/CT didn't use Evelyn on Gauntlet. Evelyn wanted it. Badly.
Which is why I never have & never will be on the Ev train. She's shown extreme stupidity in most of the challenges she's done. She was so busy trying to get rid of the other best girl on the team when you still have Casey roaming around looking dumb & being useless to the team.
I mean why when she wasn't costing you challenges? Be mad she was fake about it or whatever, but why would you take out someone weak on your team when you guys are dominating?
Yeah...Evelyn was friends with Casey then. Same with Paula, Robin, and Diem. If I were on a team with my friends, unless they were actively causing me to lose, I'd vote someone else off before them any day of the week. Hell, that was CT's reasoning for voting in Johnny rather than Eric (he said it on Derrick's podcast). Eric was clearly the worst guy on their team, but he was well liked and Johnny wasn't (plus they were worried about Evan).
I like Coral, but I don't think the Vets did anything wrong. There was a very tight knit group of people that were friends on that team and looking out for each other and they figured that they were so much better than the rookies that they could afford to cut a few decent people and keep around people who may have been not as good and won. They could've been more upfront but strategically I don't see a problem with it aside from not realizing how big of a problem Easy was. Had Casey been on that team at the end (without Eric there) they would've still won...so why not help out your friend and keep her around?
If had they been losing challenges legitimately and then voted Coral in because shes on the outs then fine. However they themselves created situations to get rid of her. It was simple greed. They wanted a bigger cut of the pie and even though they were winning decided to increase their earnings. Its funny that after they lost the final I remember Adam saying "I had plans for that money" which im sure they all did so they figured lets get more money and screw someone out of it. It wasn't that Coral was a bad player or anything it was simply "well you're not our friend so we're taking your money" Its completely messed up. She didn't deserve that nor did anyone on that team really at that point. On top of wanting to take money away from people they used them to get rid of other people they were trying to screw over. Like Coral. Instead of one of them earning their share of the money they wanted Coral to do their dirty work and get rid of beth meanwhile knowing that they were going to try and get her out next. Thats just ****** up. If you want more money work for it. Don't use people like pawns and then cut them off especially while pretending to be their friend. Like I said before they probably would of won the final had they actually kept Coral because she was the only person aside from Katie who would of had the balls to speak up for Eric when he was clearly not doing well instead of forcing him into being unable to medically complete. Again because they all had that greedy money first attitude and as big as a ***** Coral can be she'd probably never push big easy to the point that he got to. Their greed blinded them and it cost them.
I mean if they weren't as close to her and could afford to drop her and get more money for their friends and themselves, why not? The game is played in a pretty dirty way, Coral of all people should know that and I really don't understand the issue with dirty gameplay when the veterans on G3 did it. Yeah, I doubt it--Easy was going down either way with the swim and the run. Also, this wasn't like the Inferno, Coral didn't have the same kind of power or control like she previously did.
Why not? Because why not be a decent human being? People aren't just here to be used for your own agenda. They have actual feelings and I'm sure Coral could of used that money as well. Please list an instance where Coral has pretended to be someones friend while secretly planning to get them off or using them for her agenda and cutting them off? Theres gameplay and then theres taking things to a personal level which they did. Also yes she could of possibly gotten them to stop because she's not going to be intimidated by the guys and would stop when big easy started looking like he was a zombie. Brad showed concern but he was simply too passive to really stop and make big easys health a priority. Coral has been pretty consistant and straight in her gameplay. Yes she votes off rookies and yes she puts friendships first but she's never run the game in a malicious way. Even when she had problems with Julie and Trishelle she never pretended to be their friend nor did she use them or even plot to get them off.
I think like DA , Paula deserved the shit that Laurel made to her, ofc you cant do that to a person on the real world, but on that challenge i didnt like how Paula was walking around like she owned the place and called the shots on who should or who shouldnt have been in the house, like when she said she wanted Cara Maria gone, and after Wes poured the juice and she was backing up Wes and calling Cara Maria stupid for trying to defend herself, and ofc if it werent for her partners she would never win a challenge.
Another one was the red team on cutthroat, i got so pissed , because i was backing up Brandon, Brad and Tori made me sick on that season because not only they were being fair ( Brad with that speech of doing the right thing was such bullshit) at least if JEK wanted you out, they would make their intentions clear.But then again, idk if production chose the teams beforehanded , if not Camila was kind of dumb to chose Brad and Tori , because it would be really clear that from the get go they would take over things on Red Team.
There are so many challenges where if things were done right the outcome would be so different, imagine if Abram hadnt left on Island or Evelyn would take Johnny´s key it would be such a game changer.
One thing i disliked about this challenges since ( FM2 forward ) is that most of the vets that barely won any challenge or werent in control, when they were mixed with this new generation of guys, they all acted like they deserved the win from day 1 and looked down on rookies ( Jenn, Paula, Diem on R2, Tori are the most annoying examples ).
How bout when he said he was going to beat Adam on the gauntlet 3, then lost, or how he said he was going to destroy Davis on the inferno 3, then he got his *** whooped lol
Casey is useless and a Non-castmember.
Danny is pathetic competition-wise and I used to hate him but he wasn't to bad on the last couple of challenges he was on.
And Tori..She was awful on all of the challenges she's been on. I'd rather her not come back. Brad..I like him, one of my favorite castmembers..But I don't think he should come back either. He's got a family and a buisness an in addtiiton to this I don't think there's much more he can bring to the challenges. He can stay home.
All of the bolded. Casey was absolutely pathetic at everything, NOT funny (seriously don't get this supposed funny-ness of Evan, Johnny B., & Casey AT ALL...Kenny had his moments but pale in comparison to the likes of Coral, Katie, Timmy, Devyn, etc.)
Danny was also very pathetic & it was funny that he always thought he had some type of pull in the game or that people took him seriously.
Already spoke on Tori lol.
Also **** Brad.
I miss coral.
Now, I can't access the Inferno 3, but I can access Gauntlet 3.
Adam said he could win against Danny, Danny's said he could outwrestle Adam.
I'm not defending his behavior, but Danny's not the one who outright said he could beat Adam. He might have puffed his chest out a bit and had a moment where he could basically brag about his skills, but he didn't say that he could beat Adam, just said that he could outwrestle him.
Some of you have given some great, legitimate reasons for disliking Brad, so how about a shallow one:
I can't stand the way Brad talks. His speech patterns give me hives.
yeah on the ruins he pretty much osld his entire team down the river behind their backs by striking a deal with JEK to keep casey around.
if that isnt shady i dont know what is
omg, lolol.
How was Brandon weak in endurance. he was a bad swimmer, but i don't see how he has bad endurance.
actually, I remember in an interview somewhere on YouTube with Brandon saying that he weakness is cardio/endurance. I still don't get why would they keep Dunbar. I admit that Brad played a a good social game like Kenny and Evan would do trying to avoid an elimination match, but the way he went about it was sh**ty. Also, they were going after their best female on the team (Camila). I wish the rest of the red team would have understood that if Brad and Tori made it to the final, that's double the money for them. Thats what they were working for. Hell, I would have rather had Paula on my final team than Tori and I hate Paula
Eh I don't really get why Paula, Diem, Robin, etc. are viewed as weak minded for not being OTT and highly opinionated like Coral. I mean they were good friends with JEK, why go against them when you and your friends are coasting to a win? Why is that looked down upon? Also they weren't losing missions regularly or anything and none of the girls held them back so they just decided to cut the people they didn't really care for. As someone who never liked Coral, I find her on G3 hilarious when she's no longer in control and throws everything away. I'm not even sure if she and Ev were friends since I remember hearing that she bullied Ev on FM1?
Paula is weak-minded as hell. Remember when TJ wanted her and Ev to pick a team to go into the elimination with CT/Adam on the spot? She looked like she was going to hyperventilate She always wants to please the alliance rather than pleasing herself. Then she gets annoyed when ppl backstab her. She's disposable. Also, physically, yea she may be a great runner but her elimination track record sucks. Also, one on one, she can't beat CM, Camila, Laurel, Kellyanne
Robin sucks. She's only won one elimination (against Casey in the Duel). She's the reason why the Vets lost Gauntlet 2 and she whine so much. She thinks just because she's a vet, she should win.
I'm actually ok with Diem because she's actually a competitor. She should have been a champion. Especially on Battle of the Exes. I just didn't like how shady she was on Rivals 2 and she always have a smart remark when she gets thrown in.
Hmm I dont know. You tell me why saying "I don't like you and im going to take money away from you while being two faced about it" isn't messed up? Even if she wasn't so called friends with Ev they shouldn't have pretended to want her there or be her friend is they're just using her.
Yeah I didn't mean as a competitor but as people always bashing them for not turning on JEK or whatever like they're supposed to, when they're good friends?
I haven't watched G3 in years so idk but were they actually friends there?
JEK dynasty has used Ev the same way they used Paula.
- Throwing Ev in to get rid of Coral
- Sucking up to Ev at the end to not take Bananas' key on the Island
- Trying to get Ev to do their dirty work on eliminating Kellyanne on The Ruins
- Getting Ev/Paula to vote their way and make the order for missions their way on Rivals
I respect Coral because she's a good competitor but I didn't like the way the JEK dynasty and CT wanted Coral gone when they had worse females (Robin, Casey, Katie). Especially, Evan...
Are we talking about Evelyn or Evan? Either way both acted to her face like they wanted her there while knowingly being a part of using her to take out beth and then having her go up against evelyn most likely because they thought she would lose and wanted her gone.
Evelyn was probably the most vocal person on that whole team about getting rid of Coral...easily moreso than Kenny or Evan (Johnny wasn't around long enough to have an opinion). In fact, Evan was shown to not want to throw Beth in against Coral and said he wanted to send in someone she could beat. DIEM disagreed and said she thought that Coral should be sent home. Kenny/Evan/CT didn't use Evelyn on Gauntlet. Evelyn wanted it. Badly.
I mean how was she used? If she doesn't take Dunbar's key, she can't win. She refused to help JEK and didn't take KA out. They were in an alliance together on Rivals and treated them well. It's not like Camila/Theresa where they screwed them over to an extent.
JEK really changed the tones of these challanges. It became about them and their friends and if you werent their friend welp you're expendable including long time vets who I liked. It just completely ruined the way the game was played and thats why the gauntlet 3/the island and the ruins are the worst seasons to me. When they're split up they are fine but together it just made the whole team dynamic about them. Also their treatment of people and even of their friends is deplorable often crossing lines and making things personal while hiding behind the facade that "its just a game".
Well said.
All of what you posted is the reason why I think JEK destroyed these shows and ****** up EVERYTHING. They're ERA of this show is the worst and I wish it never happened.
Which is why I never have & never will be on the Ev train. She's shown extreme stupidity in most of the challenges she's done. She was so busy trying to get rid of the other best girl on the team when you still have Casey roaming around looking dumb & being useless to the team.
I mean why when she wasn't costing you challenges? Be mad she was fake about it or whatever, but why would you take out someone weak on your team when you guys are dominating?
Yeah...Evelyn was friends with Casey then. Same with Paula, Robin, and Diem. If I were on a team with my friends, unless they were actively causing me to lose, I'd vote someone else off before them any day of the week. Hell, that was CT's reasoning for voting in Johnny rather than Eric (he said it on Derrick's podcast). Eric was clearly the worst guy on their team, but he was well liked and Johnny wasn't (plus they were worried about Evan).
I like Coral, but I don't think the Vets did anything wrong. There was a very tight knit group of people that were friends on that team and looking out for each other and they figured that they were so much better than the rookies that they could afford to cut a few decent people and keep around people who may have been not as good and won. They could've been more upfront but strategically I don't see a problem with it aside from not realizing how big of a problem Easy was. Had Casey been on that team at the end (without Eric there) they would've still won...so why not help out your friend and keep her around?
Oh they did several things wrong...Keeping Eric on the team..and Better yet Keeping any/all Fresh Meat on the team. ALL of them should've been targeted.
I still think that They deserved to lose though.
If had they been losing challenges legitimately and then voted Coral in because shes on the outs then fine. However they themselves created situations to get rid of her. It was simple greed. They wanted a bigger cut of the pie and even though they were winning decided to increase their earnings. Its funny that after they lost the final I remember Adam saying "I had plans for that money" which im sure they all did so they figured lets get more money and screw someone out of it. It wasn't that Coral was a bad player or anything it was simply "well you're not our friend so we're taking your money" Its completely messed up. She didn't deserve that nor did anyone on that team really at that point. On top of wanting to take money away from people they used them to get rid of other people they were trying to screw over. Like Coral. Instead of one of them earning their share of the money they wanted Coral to do their dirty work and get rid of beth meanwhile knowing that they were going to try and get her out next. Thats just ****** up. If you want more money work for it. Don't use people like pawns and then cut them off especially while pretending to be their friend. Like I said before they probably would of won the final had they actually kept Coral because she was the only person aside from Katie who would of had the balls to speak up for Eric when he was clearly not doing well instead of forcing him into being unable to medically complete. Again because they all had that greedy money first attitude and as big as a ***** Coral can be she'd probably never push big easy to the point that he got to. Their greed blinded them and it cost them.
Game. Set. And Match.
Beatifully said.
I mean if they weren't as close to her and could afford to drop her and get more money for their friends and themselves, why not? The game is played in a pretty dirty way, Coral of all people should know that and I really don't understand the issue with dirty gameplay when the veterans on G3 did it. Yeah, I doubt it--Easy was going down either way with the swim and the run. Also, this wasn't like the Inferno, Coral didn't have the same kind of power or control like she previously did.
Why not? Because why not be a decent human being? People aren't just here to be used for your own agenda. They have actual feelings and I'm sure Coral could of used that money as well. Please list an instance where Coral has pretended to be someones friend while secretly planning to get them off or using them for her agenda and cutting them off? Theres gameplay and then theres taking things to a personal level which they did. Also yes she could of possibly gotten them to stop because she's not going to be intimidated by the guys and would stop when big easy started looking like he was a zombie. Brad showed concern but he was simply too passive to really stop and make big easys health a priority. Coral has been pretty consistant and straight in her gameplay. Yes she votes off rookies and yes she puts friendships first but she's never run the game in a malicious way. Even when she had problems with Julie and Trishelle she never pretended to be their friend nor did she use them or even plot to get them off.
I think like DA , Paula deserved the shit that Laurel made to her, ofc you cant do that to a person on the real world, but on that challenge i didnt like how Paula was walking around like she owned the place and called the shots on who should or who shouldnt have been in the house, like when she said she wanted Cara Maria gone, and after Wes poured the juice and she was backing up Wes and calling Cara Maria stupid for trying to defend herself, and ofc if it werent for her partners she would never win a challenge.
Another one was the red team on cutthroat, i got so pissed , because i was backing up Brandon, Brad and Tori made me sick on that season because not only they were being fair ( Brad with that speech of doing the right thing was such bullshit) at least if JEK wanted you out, they would make their intentions clear.But then again, idk if production chose the teams beforehanded , if not Camila was kind of dumb to chose Brad and Tori , because it would be really clear that from the get go they would take over things on Red Team.
There are so many challenges where if things were done right the outcome would be so different, imagine if Abram hadnt left on Island or Evelyn would take Johnny´s key it would be such a game changer.
One thing i disliked about this challenges since ( FM2 forward ) is that most of the vets that barely won any challenge or werent in control, when they were mixed with this new generation of guys, they all acted like they deserved the win from day 1 and looked down on rookies ( Jenn, Paula, Diem on R2, Tori are the most annoying examples ).
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