if melissa got eliminated in the final similar to rogan wouldn't it have been confirmed for a while now who eliminated her? unless it was a purge type thing. i just assumed she just quit the final ****
It could be something along the lines of last to finish the first part of the final is eliminated straight away (Melissa) and the next two slowest (Rogan and Bananas) have to do an elimination?
Are we definitley sure Melissa is even elimianted before Bayleigh? I remember the day Pink posted the final results on here and it was orginally Bayleigh 4th and Melissa 3rd (for the girls)...granted it was changed to what it is now not long after but still ..maybe?
It could be something along the lines of last to finish the first part of the final is eliminated straight away (Melissa) and the next two slowest (Rogan and Bananas) have to do an elimination?
Are we definitley sure Melissa is even elimianted before Bayleigh? I remember the day Pink posted the final results on here and it was orginally Bayleigh 4th and Melissa 3rd (for the girls)...granted it was changed to what it is now not long after but still ..maybe?
Man if Bananas is in last and was supposed to get purged and then they change the rules and give him an elimination, and then somehow find a way to have him win in the end(after again changing the rules to 2 winners) I'm done. But at the same time this whole season was rigged for him and I want it to be completely obvious, even to casuals who think everything's straight up on shows like this
It could be something along the lines of last to finish the first part of the final is eliminated straight away (Melissa) and the next two slowest (Rogan and Bananas) have to do an elimination?
Are we definitley sure Melissa is even elimianted before Bayleigh? I remember the day Pink posted the final results on here and it was orginally Bayleigh 4th and Melissa 3rd (for the girls)...granted it was changed to what it is now not long after but still ..maybe?
Man if Bananas is in last and was supposed to get purged and then they change the rules and give him an elimination, and then somehow find a way to have him win in the end(after again changing the rules to 2 winners) I'm done. But at the same time this whole season was rigged for him and I want it to be completely obvious, even to casuals who think everything's straight up on shows like this
I just hope the final is ran individually and there's is not a pairs section . Cause if they pull a Random m selection **** and give Bananas Jenny the strongest girl Idk .
It could be something along the lines of last to finish the first part of the final is eliminated straight away (Melissa) and the next two slowest (Rogan and Bananas) have to do an elimination?
Are we definitley sure Melissa is even elimianted before Bayleigh? I remember the day Pink posted the final results on here and it was orginally Bayleigh 4th and Melissa 3rd (for the girls)...granted it was changed to what it is now not long after but still ..maybe?
Man if Bananas is in last and was supposed to get purged and then they change the rules and give him an elimination, and then somehow find a way to have him win in the end(after again changing the rules to 2 winners) I'm done. But at the same time this whole season was rigged for him and I want it to be completely obvious, even to casuals who think everything's straight up on shows like this
I just cringed so hard at the thought of this because you know they would pull some BS like this and then make Rogan vs Bananas a luck game or a puzzle. His whole challenge careers is a fraud.
It could be something along the lines of last to finish the first part of the final is eliminated straight away (Melissa) and the next two slowest (Rogan and Bananas) have to do an elimination?
Are we definitley sure Melissa is even elimianted before Bayleigh? I remember the day Pink posted the final results on here and it was orginally Bayleigh 4th and Melissa 3rd (for the girls)...granted it was changed to what it is now not long after but still ..maybe?
Man if Bananas is in last and was supposed to get purged and then they change the rules and give him an elimination, and then somehow find a way to have him win in the end(after again changing the rules to 2 winners) I'm done. But at the same time this whole season was rigged for him and I want it to be completely obvious, even to casuals who think everything's straight up on shows like this
I just cringed so hard at the thought of this because you know they would pull some BS like this and then make Rogan vs Bananas a luck game or a puzzle. His whole challenge careers is a fraud.
I cringe everytime one of you losers come up with another theory or conspiracy on why Bananas didn't actually when the final or why out of everyone on the challenge they would cheat for him of all people. Everyone knows Bananas is actually good in finals his record speaks the truth there. But he is the middle of the road guy when it comes to eliminations. So if you want him out before the final keep throwing him into eliminations until he loses, don't even let him have a chance to win. Also look who was in the final against him, Cory sucks at anything long distance, Kyle sucks at the the challenge in general, Fessy unproven in a final. Not that hard to see Bananas getting the win. People on here are just so dumb & hateful. Like get a ******* life lol. Not to mention anyone who read that recent article about production would know they put to much time, money, & work into the theme, challenge dailies, eliminations & everything else to do with the show to take the time & energy to rig the game for an arrogant dude like Bananas. I think production actually enjoys when he loses. They almost find a way in every other season to show CT making Bananas into a backpack
It could be something along the lines of last to finish the first part of the final is eliminated straight away (Melissa) and the next two slowest (Rogan and Bananas) have to do an elimination?
Are we definitley sure Melissa is even elimianted before Bayleigh? I remember the day Pink posted the final results on here and it was orginally Bayleigh 4th and Melissa 3rd (for the girls)...granted it was changed to what it is now not long after but still ..maybe?
Man if Bananas is in last and was supposed to get purged and then they change the rules and give him an elimination, and then somehow find a way to have him win in the end(after again changing the rules to 2 winners) I'm done. But at the same time this whole season was rigged for him and I want it to be completely obvious, even to casuals who think everything's straight up on shows like this
I just cringed so hard at the thought of this because you know they would pull some BS like this and then make Rogan vs Bananas a luck game or a puzzle. His whole challenge careers is a fraud.
I cringe everytime one of you losers come up with another theory or conspiracy on why Bananas didn't actually when the final or why out of everyone on the challenge they would cheat for him of all people. Everyone knows Bananas is actually good in finals his record speaks the truth there. But he is the middle of the road guy when it comes to eliminations. So if you want him out before the final keep throwing him into eliminations until he loses, don't even let him have a chance to win. Also look who was in the final against him, Cory sucks at anything long distance, Kyle sucks at the the challenge in general, Fessy unproven in a final. Not that hard to see Bananas getting the win. People on here are just so dumb & hateful. Like get a ******* life lol. Not to mention anyone who read that recent article about production would know they put to much time, money, & work into the theme, challenge dailies, eliminations & everything else to do with the show to take the time & energy to rig the game for an arrogant dude like Bananas. I think production actually enjoys when he loses. They almost find a way in every other season to show CT making Bananas into a backpack
It could be something along the lines of last to finish the first part of the final is eliminated straight away (Melissa) and the next two slowest (Rogan and Bananas) have to do an elimination?
Are we definitley sure Melissa is even elimianted before Bayleigh? I remember the day Pink posted the final results on here and it was orginally Bayleigh 4th and Melissa 3rd (for the girls)...granted it was changed to what it is now not long after but still ..maybe?
Man if Bananas is in last and was supposed to get purged and then they change the rules and give him an elimination, and then somehow find a way to have him win in the end(after again changing the rules to 2 winners) I'm done. But at the same time this whole season was rigged for him and I want it to be completely obvious, even to casuals who think everything's straight up on shows like this
I just cringed so hard at the thought of this because you know they would pull some BS like this and then make Rogan vs Bananas a luck game or a puzzle. His whole challenge careers is a fraud.
I cringe everytime one of you losers come up with another theory or conspiracy on why Bananas didn't actually when the final or why out of everyone on the challenge they would cheat for him of all people. Everyone knows Bananas is actually good in finals his record speaks the truth there. But he is the middle of the road guy when it comes to eliminations. So if you want him out before the final keep throwing him into eliminations until he loses, don't even let him have a chance to win. Also look who was in the final against him, Cory sucks at anything long distance, Kyle sucks at the the challenge in general, Fessy unproven in a final. Not that hard to see Bananas getting the win. People on here are just so dumb & hateful. Like get a ******* life lol. Not to mention anyone who read that recent article about production would know they put to much time, money, & work into the theme, challenge dailies, eliminations & everything else to do with the show to take the time & energy to rig the game for an arrogant dude like Bananas. I think production actually enjoys when he loses. They almost find a way in every other season to show CT making Bananas into a backpack
But he didn't win the final???? The spoiler team already said that Jenny actually won, but they changed it to two winners after she finished 1st. They also reshot a part of the final that Kyle won initially, but then Bananas won the second time. That alone is enough proof that they manipulated the final so he would win. No conspiracy theories here unless you suddenly don't trust the spoiler team anymore.
But he didn't win the final???? The spoiler team already said that Jenny actually won, but they changed it to two winners after she finished 1st. They also reshot a part of the final that Kyle won initially, but then Bananas won the second time. That alone is enough proof that they manipulated the final so he would win. No conspiracy theories here unless you suddenly don't trust the spoiler team anymore.
I haven't been paying attention here, but is this fr? ****.
It could be something along the lines of last to finish the first part of the final is eliminated straight away (Melissa) and the next two slowest (Rogan and Bananas) have to do an elimination?
Are we definitley sure Melissa is even elimianted before Bayleigh? I remember the day Pink posted the final results on here and it was orginally Bayleigh 4th and Melissa 3rd (for the girls)...granted it was changed to what it is now not long after but still ..maybe?
Man if Bananas is in last and was supposed to get purged and then they change the rules and give him an elimination, and then somehow find a way to have him win in the end(after again changing the rules to 2 winners) I'm done. But at the same time this whole season was rigged for him and I want it to be completely obvious, even to casuals who think everything's straight up on shows like this
I just cringed so hard at the thought of this because you know they would pull some BS like this and then make Rogan vs Bananas a luck game or a puzzle. His whole challenge careers is a fraud.
I cringe everytime one of you losers come up with another theory or conspiracy on why Bananas didn't actually when the final or why out of everyone on the challenge they would cheat for him of all people. Everyone knows Bananas is actually good in finals his record speaks the truth there. But he is the middle of the road guy when it comes to eliminations. So if you want him out before the final keep throwing him into eliminations until he loses, don't even let him have a chance to win. Also look who was in the final against him, Cory sucks at anything long distance, Kyle sucks at the the challenge in general, Fessy unproven in a final. Not that hard to see Bananas getting the win. People on here are just so dumb & hateful. Like get a ******* life lol. Not to mention anyone who read that recent article about production would know they put to much time, money, & work into the theme, challenge dailies, eliminations & everything else to do with the show to take the time & energy to rig the game for an arrogant dude like Bananas. I think production actually enjoys when he loses. They almost find a way in every other season to show CT making Bananas into a backpack
But he didn't win the final???? The spoiler team already said that Jenny actually won, but they changed it to two winners after she finished 1st. They also reshot a part of the final that Kyle won initially, but then Bananas won the second time. That alone is enough proof that they manipulated the final so he would win. No conspiracy theories here unless you suddenly don't trust the spoiler team anymore.
exactly. It's pathetic how people come to Vevmo for spoilers but when something bad about one of their favs comes out then all of a sudden the spoiler team is unreliable lol
This isn't a conspiracy theory **** it's a fact at this point. The only discussion worth having is how much effort production really put in, starting with preseason when Turbo & Paulie weren't aloud on, and Theo got dropped by the show's doctor a week before despite him believing he would be good to go. Joss wasn't cast as well but we didn't need him anyways. Then giving Jordan Pole Wrestle, likely not even giving Wes enough batteries to complete his elimination, whatever the **** they did in this final and who knows what else
Bananas hasn't been good since Free Agents, time to let him fade away and let some new schoolers take the reigns, instead there's now gonna be a false sense of belief from casuals that Bananas isn't an average at best competitor at this point.
This isn't a conspiracy theory **** it's a fact at this point. The only discussion worth having is how much effort production really put in, starting with preseason when Turbo & Paulie weren't aloud on, and Theo got dropped by the show's doctor a week before despite him believing he would be good to go. Joss wasn't cast as well but we didn't need him anyways. Then giving Jordan Pole Wrestle, likely not even giving Wes enough batteries to complete his elimination, whatever the **** they did in this final and who knows what else
Bananas hasn't been good since Free Agents, time to let him fade away and let some new schoolers take the reigns, instead there's now gonna be a false sense of belief from casuals that Bananas isn't an average at best competitor at this point.
like imagine looking at all this and being dense enough to be like "ya no they actually want him to lose" ****
this season was set up for him to win point blank period. they did everything they possibly could to give him the win, include literally hand it over from Jenny
They also believe that Wes threw his elimination vs Johnny which is insane..With Jordan Gone Wes had a great chance at winning if he won vs Bananas..the remaining dudes were scrubs..i thank the spoiler team but the truth is they hate Bananas
It could be something along the lines of last to finish the first part of the final is eliminated straight away (Melissa) and the next two slowest (Rogan and Bananas) have to do an elimination?
Are we definitley sure Melissa is even elimianted before Bayleigh? I remember the day Pink posted the final results on here and it was orginally Bayleigh 4th and Melissa 3rd (for the girls)...granted it was changed to what it is now not long after but still ..maybe?
Man if Bananas is in last and was supposed to get purged and then they change the rules and give him an elimination, and then somehow find a way to have him win in the end(after again changing the rules to 2 winners) I'm done. But at the same time this whole season was rigged for him and I want it to be completely obvious, even to casuals who think everything's straight up on shows like this
I just cringed so hard at the thought of this because you know they would pull some BS like this and then make Rogan vs Bananas a luck game or a puzzle. His whole challenge careers is a fraud.
I cringe everytime one of you losers come up with another theory or conspiracy on why Bananas didn't actually when the final or why out of everyone on the challenge they would cheat for him of all people. Everyone knows Bananas is actually good in finals his record speaks the truth there. But he is the middle of the road guy when it comes to eliminations. So if you want him out before the final keep throwing him into eliminations until he loses, don't even let him have a chance to win. Also look who was in the final against him, Cory sucks at anything long distance, Kyle sucks at the the challenge in general, Fessy unproven in a final. Not that hard to see Bananas getting the win. People on here are just so dumb & hateful. Like get a ******* life lol. Not to mention anyone who read that recent article about production would know they put to much time, money, & work into the theme, challenge dailies, eliminations & everything else to do with the show to take the time & energy to rig the game for an arrogant dude like Bananas. I think production actually enjoys when he loses. They almost find a way in every other season to show CT making Bananas into a backpack
But he didn't win the final???? The spoiler team already said that Jenny actually won, but they changed it to two winners after she finished 1st. They also reshot a part of the final that Kyle won initially, but then Bananas won the second time. That alone is enough proof that they manipulated the final so he would win. No conspiracy theories here unless you suddenly don't trust the spoiler team anymore.
They also believe that Wes threw his elimination vs Johnny which is insane..With Jordan Gone Wes had a great chance at winning if he won vs Bananas..the remaining dudes were scrubs..i thank the spoiler team but the truth is they hate Bananas
It could be something along the lines of last to finish the first part of the final is eliminated straight away (Melissa) and the next two slowest (Rogan and Bananas) have to do an elimination?
Are we definitley sure Melissa is even elimianted before Bayleigh? I remember the day Pink posted the final results on here and it was orginally Bayleigh 4th and Melissa 3rd (for the girls)...granted it was changed to what it is now not long after but still ..maybe?
Man if Bananas is in last and was supposed to get purged and then they change the rules and give him an elimination, and then somehow find a way to have him win in the end(after again changing the rules to 2 winners) I'm done. But at the same time this whole season was rigged for him and I want it to be completely obvious, even to casuals who think everything's straight up on shows like this
I just cringed so hard at the thought of this because you know they would pull some BS like this and then make Rogan vs Bananas a luck game or a puzzle. His whole challenge careers is a fraud.
I cringe everytime one of you losers come up with another theory or conspiracy on why Bananas didn't actually when the final or why out of everyone on the challenge they would cheat for him of all people. Everyone knows Bananas is actually good in finals his record speaks the truth there. But he is the middle of the road guy when it comes to eliminations. So if you want him out before the final keep throwing him into eliminations until he loses, don't even let him have a chance to win. Also look who was in the final against him, Cory sucks at anything long distance, Kyle sucks at the the challenge in general, Fessy unproven in a final. Not that hard to see Bananas getting the win. People on here are just so dumb & hateful. Like get a ******* life lol. Not to mention anyone who read that recent article about production would know they put to much time, money, & work into the theme, challenge dailies, eliminations & everything else to do with the show to take the time & energy to rig the game for an arrogant dude like Bananas. I think production actually enjoys when he loses. They almost find a way in every other season to show CT making Bananas into a backpack
But he didn't win the final???? The spoiler team already said that Jenny actually won, but they changed it to two winners after she finished 1st. They also reshot a part of the final that Kyle won initially, but then Bananas won the second time. That alone is enough proof that they manipulated the final so he would win. No conspiracy theories here unless you suddenly don't trust the spoiler team anymore.
We hate Bananas because he's an awful person and has a history of things being rigged for him
I don't hate John but let's be real. Every season is at least set up to help certain people. See Paula and CT. John earned his wins--especially Free Agents and Rivals but would anyone be surprised if they changed how they handled the season at the end? ****, I still don't believe for a second that Joss & Sylvia aren't champs but they would have shared the money so...
More than anything--John's done an amazing job making this is career. That's awesome and kudos to him for it.
And John's far from a saint but that can be said for pretty much everyone on the cast. Despite everything he's still a better person than someone like Zach IMO
I don't hate John but let's be real. Every season is at least set up to help certain people. See Paula and CT. John earned his wins--especially Free Agents and Rivals but would anyone be surprised if they changed how they handled the season at the end? ****, I still don't believe for a second that Joss & Sylvia aren't champs but they would have shared the money so...
More than anything--John's done an amazing job making this is career. That's awesome and kudos to him for it.
And John's far from a saint but that can be said for pretty much everyone on the cast. Despite everything he's still a better person than someone like Zach IMO
He did not earn Rivals he lost day one by 45 minutes to Wes and Kenny. Him being less worse than Zach doesn't change that hes a terrible person lol
They also believe that Wes threw his elimination vs Johnny which is insane..With Jordan Gone Wes had a great chance at winning if he won vs Bananas..the remaining dudes were scrubs..i thank the spoiler team but the truth is they hate Bananas
It could be something along the lines of last to finish the first part of the final is eliminated straight away (Melissa) and the next two slowest (Rogan and Bananas) have to do an elimination?
Are we definitley sure Melissa is even elimianted before Bayleigh? I remember the day Pink posted the final results on here and it was orginally Bayleigh 4th and Melissa 3rd (for the girls)...granted it was changed to what it is now not long after but still ..maybe?
Man if Bananas is in last and was supposed to get purged and then they change the rules and give him an elimination, and then somehow find a way to have him win in the end(after again changing the rules to 2 winners) I'm done. But at the same time this whole season was rigged for him and I want it to be completely obvious, even to casuals who think everything's straight up on shows like this
I just cringed so hard at the thought of this because you know they would pull some BS like this and then make Rogan vs Bananas a luck game or a puzzle. His whole challenge careers is a fraud.
I cringe everytime one of you losers come up with another theory or conspiracy on why Bananas didn't actually when the final or why out of everyone on the challenge they would cheat for him of all people. Everyone knows Bananas is actually good in finals his record speaks the truth there. But he is the middle of the road guy when it comes to eliminations. So if you want him out before the final keep throwing him into eliminations until he loses, don't even let him have a chance to win. Also look who was in the final against him, Cory sucks at anything long distance, Kyle sucks at the the challenge in general, Fessy unproven in a final. Not that hard to see Bananas getting the win. People on here are just so dumb & hateful. Like get a ******* life lol. Not to mention anyone who read that recent article about production would know they put to much time, money, & work into the theme, challenge dailies, eliminations & everything else to do with the show to take the time & energy to rig the game for an arrogant dude like Bananas. I think production actually enjoys when he loses. They almost find a way in every other season to show CT making Bananas into a backpack
But he didn't win the final???? The spoiler team already said that Jenny actually won, but they changed it to two winners after she finished 1st. They also reshot a part of the final that Kyle won initially, but then Bananas won the second time. That alone is enough proof that they manipulated the final so he would win. No conspiracy theories here unless you suddenly don't trust the spoiler team anymore.
We hate Bananas because he's an awful person and has a history of things being rigged for him
And on top of that he's a horrible character on the show. For someone that's been on 20 seasons he sure doesn't bring anything useful, new, or original to the show.
I don't hate John but let's be real. Every season is at least set up to help certain people. See Paula and CT. John earned his wins--especially Free Agents and Rivals but would anyone be surprised if they changed how they handled the season at the end? ****, I still don't believe for a second that Joss & Sylvia aren't champs but they would have shared the money so...
More than anything--John's done an amazing job making this is career. That's awesome and kudos to him for it.
And John's far from a saint but that can be said for pretty much everyone on the cast. Despite everything he's still a better person than someone like Zach IMO
He did not earn Rivals he lost day one by 45 minutes to Wes and Kenny. Him being less worse than Zach doesn't change that hes a terrible person lol
I don't hate John but let's be real. Every season is at least set up to help certain people. See Paula and CT. John earned his wins--especially Free Agents and Rivals but would anyone be surprised if they changed how they handled the season at the end? ****, I still don't believe for a second that Joss & Sylvia aren't champs but they would have shared the money so...
More than anything--John's done an amazing job making this is career. That's awesome and kudos to him for it.
And John's far from a saint but that can be said for pretty much everyone on the cast. Despite everything he's still a better person than someone like Zach IMO
If Rivals is one of his two wins we're calling earned then yikes ****
Fair point regarding the Rivals final. I count it because I believe him & Tyler were (along with CT/Adam) the best team all season.
The Island was a joke of a season and Kenny basically bought him a spot in final, The Ruins he at least beat Dunbar but didn't really do anything that season other than screw over Syrus, Rivals discussed, Exes okay probably his second best win--he and Camila were the best pair, Free Agents clearly his best win and Rivals III which I still refuse to watch was set up for him and Sarh to win all along--arguably the weakest cast ever.
Just saw trailer for tomorrow. What are we going with for conspiracies today. TJ says in front of group $500,000 to a male and 500,000 to a female winners.....wasn't a voiceover. Are we still going with Jenny finishes first and last second production tells her to split with bananas? Or are we saying that shot of TJ was edited?
Judging from the new sneak peek, unless they fly out after the first two people are eliminated..I'm guessing they won't announce the fact that they changed locations?
i think the episode preview says it's 2 hours 30 mins.
No, it's 1hr and 30mins for the final, and it's only one part. The reunion is also 1hr and 30mins and one part.
if melissa got eliminated in the final similar to rogan wouldn't it have been confirmed for a while now who eliminated her? unless it was a purge type thing. i just assumed she just quit the final ****
It could be something along the lines of last to finish the first part of the final is eliminated straight away (Melissa) and the next two slowest (Rogan and Bananas) have to do an elimination?
Are we definitley sure Melissa is even elimianted before Bayleigh? I remember the day Pink posted the final results on here and it was orginally Bayleigh 4th and Melissa 3rd (for the girls)...granted it was changed to what it is now not long after but still ..maybe?
Man if Bananas is in last and was supposed to get purged and then they change the rules and give him an elimination, and then somehow find a way to have him win in the end(after again changing the rules to 2 winners) I'm done. But at the same time this whole season was rigged for him and I want it to be completely obvious, even to casuals who think everything's straight up on shows like this
I just hope the final is ran individually and there's is not a pairs section . Cause if they pull a Random m selection **** and give Bananas Jenny the strongest girl Idk .
Bananas said on his Live on IG that the final was one episode and the reunion would be two episodes ....so we will see
I just cringed so hard at the thought of this because you know they would pull some BS like this and then make Rogan vs Bananas a luck game or a puzzle. His whole challenge careers is a fraud.
I cringe everytime one of you losers come up with another theory or conspiracy on why Bananas didn't actually when the final or why out of everyone on the challenge they would cheat for him of all people. Everyone knows Bananas is actually good in finals his record speaks the truth there. But he is the middle of the road guy when it comes to eliminations. So if you want him out before the final keep throwing him into eliminations until he loses, don't even let him have a chance to win. Also look who was in the final against him, Cory sucks at anything long distance, Kyle sucks at the the challenge in general, Fessy unproven in a final. Not that hard to see Bananas getting the win. People on here are just so dumb & hateful. Like get a ******* life lol. Not to mention anyone who read that recent article about production would know they put to much time, money, & work into the theme, challenge dailies, eliminations & everything else to do with the show to take the time & energy to rig the game for an arrogant dude like Bananas. I think production actually enjoys when he loses. They almost find a way in every other season to show CT making Bananas into a backpack
lmaoooo
But he didn't win the final???? The spoiler team already said that Jenny actually won, but they changed it to two winners after she finished 1st. They also reshot a part of the final that Kyle won initially, but then Bananas won the second time. That alone is enough proof that they manipulated the final so he would win. No conspiracy theories here unless you suddenly don't trust the spoiler team anymore.
I haven't been paying attention here, but is this fr? ****.
exactly. It's pathetic how people come to Vevmo for spoilers but when something bad about one of their favs comes out then all of a sudden the spoiler team is unreliable lol
Since this season is wrapping can MTV rerun old seasons for a change?
This isn't a conspiracy theory **** it's a fact at this point. The only discussion worth having is how much effort production really put in, starting with preseason when Turbo & Paulie weren't aloud on, and Theo got dropped by the show's doctor a week before despite him believing he would be good to go. Joss wasn't cast as well but we didn't need him anyways. Then giving Jordan Pole Wrestle, likely not even giving Wes enough batteries to complete his elimination, whatever the **** they did in this final and who knows what else
Bananas hasn't been good since Free Agents, time to let him fade away and let some new schoolers take the reigns, instead there's now gonna be a false sense of belief from casuals that Bananas isn't an average at best competitor at this point.
If that happens we might get Mark Long's dream
like imagine looking at all this and being dense enough to be like "ya no they actually want him to lose" ****
this season was set up for him to win point blank period. they did everything they possibly could to give him the win, include literally hand it over from Jenny
We hate Bananas because he's an awful person and has a history of things being rigged for him
I don't hate John but let's be real. Every season is at least set up to help certain people. See Paula and CT. John earned his wins--especially Free Agents and Rivals but would anyone be surprised if they changed how they handled the season at the end? ****, I still don't believe for a second that Joss & Sylvia aren't champs but they would have shared the money so...
More than anything--John's done an amazing job making this is career. That's awesome and kudos to him for it.
And John's far from a saint but that can be said for pretty much everyone on the cast. Despite everything he's still a better person than someone like Zach IMO
He did not earn Rivals he lost day one by 45 minutes to Wes and Kenny. Him being less worse than Zach doesn't change that hes a terrible person lol
And on top of that he's a horrible character on the show. For someone that's been on 20 seasons he sure doesn't bring anything useful, new, or original to the show.
If Rivals is one of his two wins we're calling earned then yikes ****
Fair point regarding the Rivals final. I count it because I believe him & Tyler were (along with CT/Adam) the best team all season.
The Island was a joke of a season and Kenny basically bought him a spot in final, The Ruins he at least beat Dunbar but didn't really do anything that season other than screw over Syrus, Rivals discussed, Exes okay probably his second best win--he and Camila were the best pair, Free Agents clearly his best win and Rivals III which I still refuse to watch was set up for him and Sarh to win all along--arguably the weakest cast ever.
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MTV is fake woke, not surprised.
To be fair, it comes from the New York Times so is it true?
Just saw trailer for tomorrow. What are we going with for conspiracies today. TJ says in front of group $500,000 to a male and 500,000 to a female winners.....wasn't a voiceover. Are we still going with Jenny finishes first and last second production tells her to split with bananas? Or are we saying that shot of TJ was edited?
Judging from the new sneak peek, unless they fly out after the first two people are eliminated..I'm guessing they won't announce the fact that they changed locations?
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