The Challenge: Total Chaos - Dee Nguyen controversy

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Agreed.  I don't see them ditching 2 of their male main stars though.  I'd rather john be the one who's put out to pasture.

Lol we really out here thinking Veronica getting200k so show up and Bananas is gettin 500k that is the funniest shit I have ever hesrd

Lol we really out here thinking Veronica getting200k so show up and Bananas is gettin 500k that is the funniest shit I have ever hesrd

yeah i mean 200k is how much the VPR cast gets in a season (the higest paid ones) one a year for the last few years and look at how diffeerent their life styles are than the lives of CT/Johnny

Stop cancelling jordan. He's here to stay and will win more challenges.

Everyone does ignorant s**t. Nobody is perfect. We need Jordan. He's a gret athlete and an interesting character. The challenge is starting to become very dull since all the funny and controversial personalities have left aside from Bananas, CT, Wes, Nany, Laure, and Jordan. 

Cancel culture can be toxic af sometimes.

we don't need another show with toxic masculinity and bigotry take that shit over to Big Brother. We know Bananas & Wes ain't going no wheee unless there's a huge scandal with them so the less characters like Jordan the better. + just because he's a good competitor doesn't mean he's needed cause at the end of the day this is a reality show not a sport meaning personality should be a key part in casting. 

 

Everyone does ignorant s**t. Nobody is perfect. We need Jordan. He's a gret athlete and an interesting character. The challenge is starting to become very dull since all the funny and controversial personalities have left aside from Bananas, CT, Wes, Nany, Laure, and Jordan. 

Cancel culture can be toxic af sometimes.

we don't need another show with toxic masculinity and bigotry take that shit over to Big Brother. We know Bananas & Wes ain't going no wheee unless there's a huge scandal with them so the less characters like Jordan the better. + just because he's a good competitor doesn't mean he's needed cause at the end of the day this is a reality show not a sport meaning personality should be a key part in casting. 

You do realize that if this show casts the same type of personalities and gets rid of the controversial ones then it will go to s**t right? This show needs toxic masculinuty just as much as it needs everything else. It's a competition show filled with drama and the formula has been working for many years. Don't "fix" something that isn't broken. 

Jordan's a great competitior and always brings the drama. I would love to see him on a few more challenges to see how he competes against some of these newcomers and to see if he'll ever get a chance to beat Bananas in a final. 

 

 

Also, why is nobody bringing up Jordan's remarks to Jemmye on XXX? I remembered he actually revoked his apology on twitter for saying that ***, the man is garbage and I am tired of seeing people like him, Johnny & CT rewarded for that ******

it was a rap battle and anything goes in a rap battle

...... no the **** it doesn't.  Here's a rule of thumb: don't say racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. shit.  Don't say it if you're singing along to a song.  Don't say it in a "rap battle," don't say it to repeat someone else saying it, just don't say it, period.  If you have two brain cells to rub together, you should be able to follow that very simple rule.  And if you've done something like that in your past, confront it head on, own it, don't make excuses for it, don't try to explain what led you to say it, don't say that someone excused you for saying it, don't say that you're fine because someone accepted your apology.  Just own your shit.  It's not hard.  These people who can't do that don't need to be on TV, because they're toxic and they haven't learned shit. 

Yes the f**k it does. These things happen in real life (a lot). There are a lot of messed up people in real life. Last time I checked, this is a "reality" TV show so I want to see people from all walks of life show up. This is a better way to spread awareness on what's going on in the world right now. 

If Jordan wants to make a mean comment like that then go for it. He's an adult and knows he's going to receive backlash from the cancel culture mob and probably have his career ruined. The competition and controversy of this show is why I have and will continue to watch this show. It's literally the most entertaining show ever.

Jordan's not the be-all and end-all. He's even taken seasons off and the show was able to move forward without him. Just like Dee's void will be filled, so can his... it has to be. But he's not banned so why are there tears?

 

 

 

Also, why is nobody bringing up Jordan's remarks to Jemmye on XXX? I remembered he actually revoked his apology on twitter for saying that ***, the man is garbage and I am tired of seeing people like him, Johnny & CT rewarded for that ******

it was a rap battle and anything goes in a rap battle

...... no the **** it doesn't.  Here's a rule of thumb: don't say racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. shit.  Don't say it if you're singing along to a song.  Don't say it in a "rap battle," don't say it to repeat someone else saying it, just don't say it, period.  If you have two brain cells to rub together, you should be able to follow that very simple rule.  And if you've done something like that in your past, confront it head on, own it, don't make excuses for it, don't try to explain what led you to say it, don't say that someone excused you for saying it, don't say that you're fine because someone accepted your apology.  Just own your shit.  It's not hard.  These people who can't do that don't need to be on TV, because they're toxic and they haven't learned shit. 

Yes the f**k it does. These things happen in real life (a lot). There are a lot of messed up people in real life. Last time I checked, this is a "reality" TV show so I want to see people from all walks of life show up. This is a better way to spread awareness on what's going on in the world right now. 

If Jordan wants to make a mean comment like that then go for it. He's an adult and knows he's going to receive backlash from the cancel culture mob and probably have his career ruined. The competition and controversy of this show is why I have and will continue to watch this show. It's literally the most entertaining show ever.

"All walks of life"? Really? Since when is bigotry, sexism, and just plain cruelty considered a "walk of life"? And as far as contributing to a conversation, that fact that Jordan is still shown competing on this show, suceeding, and getting $$$ speaks a heck of a lot loader than one episode where people call him out on his shit. The moral being shown is that you can say nearly anything you want and it will all be forgotten by the next episode. Given the people that suceed on this show nowadays; Johnny, CT, Jordan etc; there's an argument to be made that being a jerk is something that is takes to be successful rather than be admonished. But I agree with you, people from more walks of life need to be portrayed, not just egomaniacal  frat stars and their enablers. 

 

 

Everyone does ignorant s**t. Nobody is perfect. We need Jordan. He's a gret athlete and an interesting character. The challenge is starting to become very dull since all the funny and controversial personalities have left aside from Bananas, CT, Wes, Nany, Laure, and Jordan. 

Cancel culture can be toxic af sometimes.

we don't need another show with toxic masculinity and bigotry take that shit over to Big Brother. We know Bananas & Wes ain't going no wheee unless there's a huge scandal with them so the less characters like Jordan the better. + just because he's a good competitor doesn't mean he's needed cause at the end of the day this is a reality show not a sport meaning personality should be a key part in casting. 

You do realize that if this show casts the same type of personalities and gets rid of the controversial ones then it will go to s**t right? This show needs toxic masculinuty just as much as it needs everything else. It's a competition show filled with drama and the formula has been working for many years. Don't "fix" something that isn't broken. 

Jordan's a great competitior and always brings the drama. I would love to see him on a few more challenges to see how he competes against some of these newcomers and to see if he'll ever get a chance to beat Bananas in a final. 

The ratings were actually better back in the day when REAL men like the Miz, Darrell, Landon, Alton, Derrick, Mark, Jamie, Timmy, Ace, Syrus, Dan etc. were regulars, so your arguement is invalid. If you must have your hot messes then you can still have them, but since when does a hot mess necessitate saying racist, sexist, offensive things? Can't you just be happy with punching, drink throwing, crying, hooking up, and **** shaming? If you find yourself wanting more racial comments during an average episode of the challenge then you sir are part of the problem. 

 

 

 

Everyone does ignorant s**t. Nobody is perfect. We need Jordan. He's a gret athlete and an interesting character. The challenge is starting to become very dull since all the funny and controversial personalities have left aside from Bananas, CT, Wes, Nany, Laure, and Jordan. 

Cancel culture can be toxic af sometimes.

we don't need another show with toxic masculinity and bigotry take that shit over to Big Brother. We know Bananas & Wes ain't going no wheee unless there's a huge scandal with them so the less characters like Jordan the better. + just because he's a good competitor doesn't mean he's needed cause at the end of the day this is a reality show not a sport meaning personality should be a key part in casting. 

You do realize that if this show casts the same type of personalities and gets rid of the controversial ones then it will go to s**t right? This show needs toxic masculinuty just as much as it needs everything else. It's a competition show filled with drama and the formula has been working for many years. Don't "fix" something that isn't broken. 

Jordan's a great competitior and always brings the drama. I would love to see him on a few more challenges to see how he competes against some of these newcomers and to see if he'll ever get a chance to beat Bananas in a final. 

The ratings were actually better back in the day when REAL men like the Miz, Darrell, Landon, Alton, Derrick, Mark, Jamie, Timmy, Ace, Syrus, Dan etc. were regulars, so your arguement is invalid. If you must have your hot messes then you can still have them, but since when does a hot mess necessitate saying racist, sexist, offensive things? Can't you just be happy with punching, drink throwing, crying, hooking up, and **** shaming? If you find yourself wanting more racial comments during an average episode of the challenge then you sir are part of the problem. 

You cant compared ratings from early 2000s to now lol Back in the day technology wasn't as advanced, live streams and other ways to watch live episodes didn't exist. Every Network in general doesnt have the same pull they did even as of 10 years ago.  A lot of people doesnt even have cable now days they prefer other alternates cheaper ways that has more variety like Netflix. Plus, every thing has a reality show so it's a way more competitive market.

Btw I dont agree with anything the other user is saying before I get attack about it. I think you can find entertaining people without the them being racist, mysogonist and ******** in general.

 

 

 

Also, why is nobody bringing up Jordan's remarks to Jemmye on XXX? I remembered he actually revoked his apology on twitter for saying that ***, the man is garbage and I am tired of seeing people like him, Johnny & CT rewarded for that ******

it was a rap battle and anything goes in a rap battle

...... no the **** it doesn't.  Here's a rule of thumb: don't say racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. shit.  Don't say it if you're singing along to a song.  Don't say it in a "rap battle," don't say it to repeat someone else saying it, just don't say it, period.  If you have two brain cells to rub together, you should be able to follow that very simple rule.  And if you've done something like that in your past, confront it head on, own it, don't make excuses for it, don't try to explain what led you to say it, don't say that someone excused you for saying it, don't say that you're fine because someone accepted your apology.  Just own your shit.  It's not hard.  These people who can't do that don't need to be on TV, because they're toxic and they haven't learned shit. 

Yes the f**k it does. These things happen in real life (a lot). There are a lot of messed up people in real life. Last time I checked, this is a "reality" TV show so I want to see people from all walks of life show up. This is a better way to spread awareness on what's going on in the world right now. 

If Jordan wants to make a mean comment like that then go for it. He's an adult and knows he's going to receive backlash from the cancel culture mob and probably have his career ruined. The competition and controversy of this show is why I have and will continue to watch this show. It's literally the most entertaining show ever.

LOL you're a moron.  Racist/sexist/homophobic isn't a "walk of life" anyone should be condoning or networks should be putting on their TV screens.  Here's real life: if you make monkey noises at a black person at your job, you'll get fired.  If you tell your co-worker they look like they have Down syndrome, you'll get fired.  A workplace can have whatever culture it wants to have.  And if you find racism entertaining, well, that says a lot more about you than it says about a society that's evolved to the point that we no longer find it acceptable.  If you need your fix of racism, you can go get yourself tickets to a Trump rally and convene with your fellow racist mouthbreathers. Here in "real life," decent people don't find that behavior entertaining or acceptable. 

This OG Challenge that Mark is trying to pitch..would they even invite Emily back after the whole black face situation? With everything that has gone on with Dee, Jordan, & Taylor..I'd be shocked & honestly disappointed.

This OG Challenge that Mark is trying to pitch..would they even invite Emily back after the whole black face situation? With everything that has gone on with Dee, Jordan, & Taylor..I'd be shocked & honestly disappointed.

I can see them forgetting then ******* up when called out

 

 

 

Also, why is nobody bringing up Jordan's remarks to Jemmye on XXX? I remembered he actually revoked his apology on twitter for saying that ***, the man is garbage and I am tired of seeing people like him, Johnny & CT rewarded for that ******

it was a rap battle and anything goes in a rap battle

...... no the **** it doesn't.  Here's a rule of thumb: don't say racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. shit.  Don't say it if you're singing along to a song.  Don't say it in a "rap battle," don't say it to repeat someone else saying it, just don't say it, period.  If you have two brain cells to rub together, you should be able to follow that very simple rule.  And if you've done something like that in your past, confront it head on, own it, don't make excuses for it, don't try to explain what led you to say it, don't say that someone excused you for saying it, don't say that you're fine because someone accepted your apology.  Just own your shit.  It's not hard.  These people who can't do that don't need to be on TV, because they're toxic and they haven't learned shit. 

Yes the f**k it does. These things happen in real life (a lot). There are a lot of messed up people in real life. Last time I checked, this is a "reality" TV show so I want to see people from all walks of life show up. This is a better way to spread awareness on what's going on in the world right now. 

If Jordan wants to make a mean comment like that then go for it. He's an adult and knows he's going to receive backlash from the cancel culture mob and probably have his career ruined. The competition and controversy of this show is why I have and will continue to watch this show. It's literally the most entertaining show ever.

No the **** it don't actually! If this show needs racist and misogynist to carry it then they need to cancel it now. What worked years ago won't work in today's tv landscape so they gotta change with the times or move on. The show has a loyal fan base so it doesn't need the scandals and controversy to propel ratings. The Dee drama wasn't needed and hasn't changed anything ratings wise. 

This OG Challenge that Mark is trying to pitch..would they even invite Emily back after the whole black face situation? With everything that has gone on with Dee, Jordan, & Taylor..I'd be shocked & honestly disappointed.

I saw the list and saw Sarah Rice & Emily who are barely old school with the latter like you said doing black face. I don't think this OG thing is gonna go right anyways so I wish them an ounce of luck.  

This has die down to big networks I think thats all the public firing we are going to see.

Poor Dee.

I saw her mouthing off at the camera before Jenny got into the car. She may have transported herself back into the past and tried to lip read her way into relevancy as that was the only camera time she got before elimination.

Where is Dee/Waldo is a fun game that I will miss

 

 

 

 

Also, why is nobody bringing up Jordan's remarks to Jemmye on XXX? I remembered he actually revoked his apology on twitter for saying that ***, the man is garbage and I am tired of seeing people like him, Johnny & CT rewarded for that ******

it was a rap battle and anything goes in a rap battle

...... no the **** it doesn't.  Here's a rule of thumb: don't say racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. shit.  Don't say it if you're singing along to a song.  Don't say it in a "rap battle," don't say it to repeat someone else saying it, just don't say it, period.  If you have two brain cells to rub together, you should be able to follow that very simple rule.  And if you've done something like that in your past, confront it head on, own it, don't make excuses for it, don't try to explain what led you to say it, don't say that someone excused you for saying it, don't say that you're fine because someone accepted your apology.  Just own your shit.  It's not hard.  These people who can't do that don't need to be on TV, because they're toxic and they haven't learned shit. 

Yes the f**k it does. These things happen in real life (a lot). There are a lot of messed up people in real life. Last time I checked, this is a "reality" TV show so I want to see people from all walks of life show up. This is a better way to spread awareness on what's going on in the world right now. 

If Jordan wants to make a mean comment like that then go for it. He's an adult and knows he's going to receive backlash from the cancel culture mob and probably have his career ruined. The competition and controversy of this show is why I have and will continue to watch this show. It's literally the most entertaining show ever.

LOL you're a moron.  Racist/sexist/homophobic isn't a "walk of life" anyone should be condoning or networks should be putting on their TV screens.  Here's real life: if you make monkey noises at a black person at your job, you'll get fired.  If you tell your co-worker they look like they have Down syndrome, you'll get fired.  A workplace can have whatever culture it wants to have.  And if you find racism entertaining, well, that says a lot more about you than it says about a society that's evolved to the point that we no longer find it acceptable.  If you need your fix of racism, you can go get yourself tickets to a Trump rally and convene with your fellow racist mouthbreathers. Here in "real life," decent people don't find that behavior entertaining or acceptable. 

Stop putting words in my mouth chief. I find the drama that revolves around the actions of these competitors funny and entertainign and so do you, that's why you keep watching the show. When I said "people from all walks of life" I meant that there are dumb and ignorant people out there. There are a lot of racists, homophobes, etc... out there so I'm glad that MTV is exposing these people who try to keep that s**t away from the public eye. That's entertaining to me. 

You're over here calling me a "moron" and automatically assuming my views automatically disqualifies you from receiving a decent response from me. Have a great day "moron".

 

 

 

Everyone does ignorant s**t. Nobody is perfect. We need Jordan. He's a gret athlete and an interesting character. The challenge is starting to become very dull since all the funny and controversial personalities have left aside from Bananas, CT, Wes, Nany, Laure, and Jordan. 

Cancel culture can be toxic af sometimes.

we don't need another show with toxic masculinity and bigotry take that shit over to Big Brother. We know Bananas & Wes ain't going no wheee unless there's a huge scandal with them so the less characters like Jordan the better. + just because he's a good competitor doesn't mean he's needed cause at the end of the day this is a reality show not a sport meaning personality should be a key part in casting. 

You do realize that if this show casts the same type of personalities and gets rid of the controversial ones then it will go to s**t right? This show needs toxic masculinuty just as much as it needs everything else. It's a competition show filled with drama and the formula has been working for many years. Don't "fix" something that isn't broken. 

Jordan's a great competitior and always brings the drama. I would love to see him on a few more challenges to see how he competes against some of these newcomers and to see if he'll ever get a chance to beat Bananas in a final. 

The ratings were actually better back in the day when REAL men like the Miz, Darrell, Landon, Alton, Derrick, Mark, Jamie, Timmy, Ace, Syrus, Dan etc. were regulars, so your arguement is invalid. If you must have your hot messes then you can still have them, but since when does a hot mess necessitate saying racist, sexist, offensive things? Can't you just be happy with punching, drink throwing, crying, hooking up, and **** shaming? If you find yourself wanting more racial comments during an average episode of the challenge then you sir are part of the problem. 

Back in the day there wasn't the social media presence that is currently here in this day of age. Every show has had their ratings gone down. Why would I care to watch a show in real time anymore when I can just DVR it? So the ratings argument is a **** poor argument here. Miz, Darrell, Alton, Derrick, Mark, and Ace have all said sexist and mean remarks in the past and some continue to do so today (I mean just search their past twitter comments or look at old seasons). No one is perfect. All these challengers are pieces of s**t to some extent and it's entertaining as **** lol if we had nothing but Brandon's and Emily's show up I can guarantee you that nobody would watch this show. 

This has die down to big networks I think thats all the public firing we are going to see.

can't say I'm surprised one thing I've learned from social media what's hot this week won't be the next 

Back in the day there wasn't the social media presence that is currently here in this day of age. Every show has had their ratings gone down. Why would I care to watch a show in real time anymore when I can just DVR it? So the ratings argument is a **** poor argument here. Miz, Darrell, Alton, Derrick, Mark, and Ace have all said sexist and mean remarks in the past and some continue to do so today (I mean just search their past twitter comments or look at old seasons). No one is perfect. All these challengers are pieces of s**t to some extent and it's entertaining as **** lol if we had nothing but Brandon's and Emily's show up I can guarantee you that nobody would watch this show. 

First off, do not persume that people on here enjoy watching the same thing as you do. Even if you say that you are not prejudice, you still admit to getting your jollies by watching people be put in situations where they are made to feel inferior based on who they are. I'm all for watching Tonya throw Beth's clothes in the pool, but seeing people get away with discriminatory language and actions is not a brand of drama I find compelling in the least. You say its funny b/c these people look like idiots, but I guarentee you that THEY do not think they are idiots. And why should they? They can win $1 Million dollars mere days after calling someone the n-word or insulting the special ed community and then get invited back the very next season. Not only are these bigots gifted with amazing opportunites for themselves, but millions of people are watching them get their way without giving their competitors even the most basic respect. Based off of the edits he has been given, it is clear that Jordan is someone MTV wants us to root for and to want to see again. This sends viewers a clear message that not only are his remarks forgiveable, but that they may even be appropriate 

ngl I haven't watched this shit, is Dee completely edited out of the entire show now?? 

ngl I haven't watched this shit, is Dee completely edited out of the entire show now?? 

I think they let her speak like 3 times in the last episode, and none the previous couple

Didnt realize I posted this in the wrong thread yesterday, so I'll post it here today. MTV is fake woke, not that we are surprised by it.

 

also in recent MTV cancelled news: https://www.boston.com/culture/celebs/2020/07/15/nick-cannon-fired

 

Didnt realize I posted this in the wrong thread yesterday, so I'll post it here today. MTV is fake woke, not that we are surprised by it.

 

also in recent MTV cancelled news: https://www.boston.com/culture/celebs/2020/07/15/nick-cannon-fired

 

they continue to show their true colors and now they will lay in it 

 

Back in the day there wasn't the social media presence that is currently here in this day of age. Every show has had their ratings gone down. Why would I care to watch a show in real time anymore when I can just DVR it? So the ratings argument is a **** poor argument here. Miz, Darrell, Alton, Derrick, Mark, and Ace have all said sexist and mean remarks in the past and some continue to do so today (I mean just search their past twitter comments or look at old seasons). No one is perfect. All these challengers are pieces of s**t to some extent and it's entertaining as **** lol if we had nothing but Brandon's and Emily's show up I can guarantee you that nobody would watch this show. 

First off, do not persume that people on here enjoy watching the same thing as you do. Even if you say that you are not prejudice, you still admit to getting your jollies by watching people be put in situations where they are made to feel inferior based on who they are. I'm all for watching Tonya throw Beth's clothes in the pool, but seeing people get away with discriminatory language and actions is not a brand of drama I find compelling in the least. You say its funny b/c these people look like idiots, but I guarentee you that THEY do not think they are idiots. And why should they? They can win $1 Million dollars mere days after calling someone the n-word or insulting the special ed community and then get invited back the very next season. Not only are these bigots gifted with amazing opportunites for themselves, but millions of people are watching them get their way without giving their competitors even the most basic respect. Based off of the edits he has been given, it is clear that Jordan is someone MTV wants us to root for and to want to see again. This sends viewers a clear message that not only are his remarks forgiveable, but that they may even be appropriate 

I'm sorry, but this is a show that I find very entertaining and have enjoyed watching it since Fresh Meat 1.The last thing I want is for cancel culture to ruin one of the last remaining good reality shows out there by cancelling people left and right because they made a dumb joke or one or 2 insensitive remarks in the past that they clearly apologzied for. The world is a mean place out there and I'm glad that this show doesn't shy away from showing us that. 

So what happened to Dee? Is she still in the US or did she go back home to Australia?

So what happened to Dee? Is she still in the US or did she go back home to Australia?

Prob still in the U.S., ; they're getting ready to film a Challenge After School Special: Dee has learned from her instagram mistakes, so we're gonna cast her again. Featuring: Wes B as the thearopist.  Sponsered by Patreon and MTV.  

So MTV not going after the racist and sexist men?

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