KC. you make a great point.. I didnt even factor in the more elims you win, the more targets you paint, in turn the more people you **** off. Unlike Survivor or BB, your path to the end is unknown, therefore you cant even give someone "points out of respect" even if yall were at odds in the season.
Format killed this season. Took all the air out of the stacked cast. No way anyone can go after their competition giving someone like Jordan a free ride, lame karma points rewarding players that have done the show for 20 years and killing Michele's chances who had to target half the house. Shitty shitty format can't believe production didn't think this one all the way through. Worst format of all time?
Bloodlines was worse
Only shitty part was people going home because their bloodlines lost but at least people were able to play the game and go after anyone. No one could go after their competition this season to get them out before the final which is insane to me.
Terrible format. Stupid purging 8 people. Terrible editing. Way too long with no action. The little drama we had was edited out. They had a solid cast and then dropped the ball in EVERY other area possible.
I never noticed until this season how weird Kaycee is, especially towards Jenny, Michele, and even Josh. She's kinda slick with her fakeness. Definitely two-faced.
literally all the things she said about Amber and jenny are projection
That stupid dy•ke was the reason Michele was robbed of 1st place? She hates every woman that isn't nany or tori. Hope she gets a very mild version of chlamydia
I loved this season - hated the purge at the start but over all one of the best seasons since Dirty 30!
so freaking happy that Rachel came back and slayed it - and that Rachel & Jenny got to win together!!! The final four woman slayed it and were super impressive!!!!!
the casting for this season is how it should always be - a solid mix of OG's and newbies - makes for a great cast!
That stupid dy•ke was the reason Michele was robbed of 1st place? She hates every woman that isn't nany or tori. Hope she gets a very mild version of chlamydia
you can not like people but you have to be nasty about. what an incredibly inappropriately horrid comment.
This All Stars trailer looks the worst out of all of them so far....the tone seems so much darker than the first four
tf you mean? That trailer was SO much better than the previous all stars combined! Ashley, Nany, and Amber tore in that trailer
the entire tone was too dark - you had Devin looking like a bad over dramatic actor, it just looked moody and not fun. Hopefully the episodes are better than the trailer - but out of all the trailer drops this was the most disappointing one so far for the series imo - they really killed the vibe of this spin off.
Can somebody explain how the karma points work? I'm having a hard time understanding it
From my understanding they added up all the karma points - The person with the most total karma points got 8 additional points. The person with the second most got 6. Third received 4 points added. And the person with the least amount of total karma points received 2 additional points. People are saying production doubled the pointsb because if they just did it 4, 3, 2, 1, Rachel wouldn't have had enough to tie with Jenny. They need to explain the rules from the beginning because this is the sketchy shit they do that makes people say everything is rigged.
Ughh I don't want to sound like one of you constantly-complaining-but-still-washing the show vevmonians, but I hated this final ****. Whats with all the swimming?? And is not even that there was a huge amounts of it to start and end a checkpoint, but that there was basically no equalizers and even some checkpoints themselves had more swimming!! Like what is going on lol. If they wanted to have them swim all the way there and then swim all the way back, at least add some harder non-related swimming checkpoints to make it even, instead you had silly ones that barely affected the outcomes, like when Michelle got last in one but still finished near the top because of how the swimming affected everything. So wild lol.
Did not like the karma points either. "How you treat people in this game matter", bro this is reality TV; backstab, lie, create drama, do whatever you need to win. It shouldn't come back to bite you #JusticeForMeganILoveMoney.
Because of the nature of this final and karma points, I don't see this one increasing or decreasing anyone's challenge caliber, and it just made the whole thing futile, which is unfortunate for a milestone season where lots of us wanted to see the best of the best go at it.
Anyhow I still enjoyed the season even with the disappointing finale, even if the nostalgic factor of the cast mostly added to that.
It really did feel like they didn't want their Karma points twist that they've been teasing all season to be a big flop and not affect any standings, so they just said "we'll make it be worth as much as it needs to in order to make some movement".
the cast was near perfection but jesus what a lame format with targets and an even lamer final. overall enjoyed but that was for the cast alone.
yeah the cast was epic - And I enjoyed this season. I do wish they treated it like Cutthroat and had teams secret voting. Secret voting always adds more drama cause people can lie and don't follow there alliances
KC. you make a great point.. I didnt even factor in the more elims you win, the more targets you paint, in turn the more people you **** off. Unlike Survivor or BB, your path to the end is unknown, therefore you cant even give someone "points out of respect" even if yall were at odds in the season.
Only shitty part was people going home because their bloodlines lost but at least people were able to play the game and go after anyone. No one could go after their competition this season to get them out before the final which is insane to me.
Terrible format. Stupid purging 8 people. Terrible editing. Way too long with no action. The little drama we had was edited out. They had a solid cast and then dropped the ball in EVERY other area possible.
Bring back multiple confessional looks. It's so stale with only one.
literally all the things she said about Amber and jenny are projection
my ranking of era 4 seasons:
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That stupid dy•ke was the reason Michele was robbed of 1st place? She hates every woman that isn't nany or tori. Hope she gets a very mild version of chlamydia
I loved this season - hated the purge at the start but over all one of the best seasons since Dirty 30!
so freaking happy that Rachel came back and slayed it - and that Rachel & Jenny got to win together!!! The final four woman slayed it and were super impressive!!!!!
the casting for this season is how it should always be - a solid mix of OG's and newbies - makes for a great cast!
you can not like people but you have to be nasty about. what an incredibly inappropriately horrid comment.
This All Stars trailer looks the worst out of all of them so far....the tone seems so much darker than the first four
tf you mean? That trailer was SO much better than the previous all stars combined! Ashley, Nany, and Amber tore in that trailer
the entire tone was too dark - you had Devin looking like a bad over dramatic actor, it just looked moody and not fun. Hopefully the episodes are better than the trailer - but out of all the trailer drops this was the most disappointing one so far for the series imo - they really killed the vibe of this spin off.
Would have been a 9 or 8 out of ten with better finalists
ive never seen such a solid ranking of past seasons. agreed on all points.
Can somebody explain how the karma points work? I'm having a hard time understanding it
Barbz stay in school
From my understanding they added up all the karma points - The person with the most total karma points got 8 additional points. The person with the second most got 6. Third received 4 points added. And the person with the least amount of total karma points received 2 additional points. People are saying production doubled the pointsb because if they just did it 4, 3, 2, 1, Rachel wouldn't have had enough to tie with Jenny. They need to explain the rules from the beginning because this is the sketchy shit they do that makes people say everything is rigged.
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Ughh I don't want to sound like one of you constantly-complaining-but-still-washing the show vevmonians, but I hated this final ****. Whats with all the swimming?? And is not even that there was a huge amounts of it to start and end a checkpoint, but that there was basically no equalizers and even some checkpoints themselves had more swimming!! Like what is going on lol. If they wanted to have them swim all the way there and then swim all the way back, at least add some harder non-related swimming checkpoints to make it even, instead you had silly ones that barely affected the outcomes, like when Michelle got last in one but still finished near the top because of how the swimming affected everything. So wild lol.
Did not like the karma points either. "How you treat people in this game matter", bro this is reality TV; backstab, lie, create drama, do whatever you need to win. It shouldn't come back to bite you #JusticeForMeganILoveMoney.
Because of the nature of this final and karma points, I don't see this one increasing or decreasing anyone's challenge caliber, and it just made the whole thing futile, which is unfortunate for a milestone season where lots of us wanted to see the best of the best go at it.
Anyhow I still enjoyed the season even with the disappointing finale, even if the nostalgic factor of the cast mostly added to that.
the cast was near perfection but jesus what a lame format with targets and an even lamer final. overall enjoyed but that was for the cast alone.
It really did feel like they didn't want their Karma points twist that they've been teasing all season to be a big flop and not affect any standings, so they just said "we'll make it be worth as much as it needs to in order to make some movement".
yeah the cast was epic - And I enjoyed this season. I do wish they treated it like Cutthroat and had teams secret voting. Secret voting always adds more drama cause people can lie and don't follow there alliances
so glad its over
Cast Rankings:
Awful/Didn't enjoy at all/Need a Permanent Break From:
40. Kaycee
39. Josh
38. Aneesa
37. Devin
36. Rachel
35. Jordan
34. Derek
33. Paulie
32. Brandon
31. Ryan
30. Jenny
29. Laurel
About what I expected from them/unimpressed:
28. Leroy
27. Katie
26. Bananas
25. Mark
24. Olivia
23. Derrick
22. Michele
21. Horacio
20. Nehemiah
Enjoyed what they brought to the season:
19. Emily
18. Jodi
17. Tori
16. Jonna
15. Brad
14. Aviv
13. Amanda
12. Tony
11. Theo
10. Cara
9. CT
Favs/Please be on 41:
8. Kyland
7. Nurys
6. Tina
5. Kellyanne
4. Nia
3. Cory
2. Averey
1. Darrell
What the **** did CT bring to the season?
'Pro tips'
I hated those so ******* much.
lol they were awful but I was just teasin uk lover
And then they had the nerve to end the final episode with another pro tip. I'm glad that unevolved caveman keeps going home early.
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