Why are you assuming that being Victoria and Jacosta means you're playing well? Lol, you are literally just making assumptions, yes of course those were all threats, but not to the point that people want you out and you need competitions to stick around. If that is the case, you are doing something very wrong that people want you gone that badly. Ian as much as I love him was leaving a lot to be desired socially and thus had to win comps to make it to the end, same for someone like Frank who had a shitty social game and was targeted as such. Not really, Andy had agreat social game and he wasn't a threat ina lot of people's eyes lol. Kvm has already said it perfectly, but you seem to just be a very casual fan with how you throw the word floater on anyone who isn't playing a proactive game and think that someone who needs to win comps to stay is better than someone who doesn't because they aren't playing a shitty social game to be in that position.
I'm not a casual fan just because my opinion is different than yours ****. I've been watching since the show started and have even seen several seasons twice. I know about what happens before it even airs on the show (I don't always watch the feeds but I keep up with what is going on). You are talking about people who are threats being terrible game players. Jocasta and Victoria were people who weren't threats last season, yet they were terrible game players. Just because you lay low and make friends doesn't mean you are playing a good game or should win. You have to also play the game and make moves. You can be a threat the first week just because your athletic. That doesn't mean you are doing anything wrong and are a bad game player just because people are targeting you. Your points literally make no sense. There are very few people who make it throughout the game without being a target. Godfrey on BBCAN3 is a good example. I don't know if you watch BBCAN or not but in my opinion he didn't play a good game. A lot of people thought he deserved to win just because he laid low the whole time and was never a threat. He did cover his bases very well a few times, but to me he didn't do anything to deserve to win. This is a game and just making it to the end (even though it may be tough) doesn't mean you deserve a win. I NEVER said someone who needs to win comps is better. You said if someone needs to win comps they aren't playing a good game and I said that isn't necessarily true. Some people need to win comps because they are a huge threat. That doesn't make them less deserving than anyone else. If you are a threat and have to win competitions to survive and you make it to the end, you deserve it just as much as someone who sat around all summer and didn't do anything. Also, there are two types of floaters. One who has many alliances but no real allegiance to anyone and floats back and forth to whoever has power such as Andy. Then there are people who don't have many or any alliances or allegiances and just stays in the middle and out of everything the whole game and makes there way by each week. Floaters are typically people who are seen as non-threats. Victoria isn't someone like Andy who floated back and forth to whoever was in power, but she certainly stayed out of everything, wasn't competitive, and stayed in the middle and didn't nothing as long as she could. If anyone disagrees with the fact that people like Andy, Jun, Adam, Jenn are floaters and even people like Kathy and Victoria to some extent, then I know I am not talking to true fans. Again, to say I am only a casual viewer, when I have been watching this show since the beginning, and keep up with what is going on literally everyday, only because you disagree with my opinion is laughable. You don't even know me. You can disagree with me all you want, but don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about.
Your opinion being different isn't why I made that comment, lol I disgaree with kvm freuqnetly and I didn't call him that. That is simply the impression you give. Right but you're still asuming that anyone who isn't a htreat means they're playing well or anyone who's ever been a threat isn't? Laying low and making friends is definitely a good strategy, especially early on when you let people overplay and be their own worst enemy. There are still options to throw comps, form stronger bonds/relationships to prevent being targeted, etc, btw never said that being a threat makes you a terrible player lol. But yes someone needing to win competitions means there is something wrong there. Plenty of people who were threats to didn't need to win comps because they were good enough socially like Will, Danielle Reyes, etc.
yeah no there are no two definitions of a floater lol, and so ironic how you get high and mighty when you have abeen acting prentinous this entire discussion when you could have kept things civil and agree to disagree. what a **** joke
Me? This all started because I stated that despite what deal they made in the BB16 house, the houseguests wouldn't have voted for Victoria to win over Cody. Yet I was attacked on that. You're the one who jumps down my ******* throat everytime you disagree with me. Let me tell you something bud, your opinion is your opinion, it doesn't mean you are correct. Needing to win comps doesn't necessarily mean you aren't playing well, you are completely generalizing everything. People don't need to win comps to win the game, but just because you win doesn't mean you are awful. In a lot of cases it helps you get to the end.
**** using wiki as a reference when literally anyone can edit that, that's embarrassing.
You keep putting words in my mouth because I never said that makes a player awful, just weaker. Obviously this is all my opinion, what else would it be? I didn't realize I had to type "IMO" or something like that to make it obvious. Also yeah you got condescending when I took the word of people in the game over you lol
Currently watching some big brother 12 clips and HOLY **** Ragan has dragged Rachel through the dirt. His insults are too hilarious. I am literally crying.
Currently watching some big brother 12 clips and HOLY **** Ragan has dragged Rachel through the dirt. His insults are too hilarious. I am literally crying.
Loved that whole fight, still die when Ragen says "I'd take it as an honor if you didn't vote for me if I'm in the final two."
And of course, "Why don't you go get us a drink, Ra-tress?"
Don't know what I hate more about BOTB: The 2 HOHs working together, creation of a dominant alliance controlling the season, or nominees throwing the challenges. The whole thing just sucks up any conflict or drama that the twist was intended to create.
Is it weird that I love Julia but can't stand Liz? Also, I was so sad when James & Liz won. I love James but I want Austin out so badly and I just don't think Vanessa will go though with it. What does everyone else think?
Is it weird that I love Julia but can't stand Liz? Also, I was so sad when James & Liz won. I love James but I want Austin out so badly and I just don't think Vanessa will go though with it. What does everyone else think?
I still have hope she'll go through with it but yeah Clay and Becky are epic fails ****
Don't know what I hate more about BOTB: The 2 HOHs working together, creation of a dominant alliance controlling the season, or nominees throwing the challenges. The whole thing just sucks up any conflict or drama that the twist was intended to create.
botb isn't used like it should be, I also don't like it because the hole thing is rushed. nominations/botb, veto/vetoceremony. you dont see anything that goes on.
Is it weird that I love Julia but can't stand Liz? Also, I was so sad when James & Liz won. I love James but I want Austin out so badly and I just don't think Vanessa will go though with it. What does everyone else think?
I still have hope she'll go through with it but yeah Clay and Becky are epic fails ****
Is it weird that I love Julia but can't stand Liz? Also, I was so sad when James & Liz won. I love James but I want Austin out so badly and I just don't think Vanessa will go though with it. What does everyone else think?
I still have hope she'll go through with it but yeah Clay and Becky are epic fails ****
Julia>>> Liz
Yas! Julia is definitley my fave twin. Last Night, Liz called Dan "a ******* weirdo" and "Dan GREASLING". I can't stand the ***** now and now we have to see her and her hairy beast (Austin) for another week.
Is it weird that I love Julia but can't stand Liz? Also, I was so sad when James & Liz won. I love James but I want Austin out so badly and I just don't think Vanessa will go though with it. What does everyone else think?
I still have hope she'll go through with it but yeah Clay and Becky are epic fails ****
Julia>>> Liz
Yas! Julia is definitley my fave twin. Last Night, Liz called Dan "a ******* weirdo" and "Dan GREASLING". I can't stand the ***** now and now we have to see her and her hairy beast (Austin) for another week.
****! Vanessa just sucks what's the point of backdooring Jason he poses zero threat to her game whereas Austin has proven time after time that he cannot be trusted he will screw her over the 1st chance he gets, also Shelli & Clay and Liz & Jullia are pairs they will screw her over the 1st chance they get, and let's face it she's to scared and paranoid to ever make a big move backdooring Austin would of strengthen her game she would of had Clay, Shelli, Liz, and Julia on one side and Jason, James, and Jackie on the other side. Just because you wear the beanie and the glasses doesn't make you the next Derrick I hope she gets a reality check next week.
Austin is going to get the Christine treatment whenever he gets eliminated. I can't wait
Hey sweetie!!
Why are we thinking that? Because he may have a gf?
**** using wiki as a reference when literally anyone can edit that, that's embarrassing.
You keep putting words in my mouth because I never said that makes a player awful, just weaker. Obviously this is all my opinion, what else would it be? I didn't realize I had to type "IMO" or something like that to make it obvious. Also yeah you got condescending when I took the word of people in the game over you lol
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thats his supposed gf's sister. supposedly she wanted to break up with him prior but he was like ,"no" ... nothing about this open ness ****
Still don't think it will be Christine level... she had a husband and could not keep her hands to her herself
Audrey looks so good tonight and this whole family montage is really great tbh.
So good this ***** is gone...
The Audrey show tonight was boring as ****
I like Clay until he goes into the DR
I like clay for his looks
I loved Jason's goodbye to Audrey. One of the worst players ever IMO.
LOL at useless Jackie winning HOH
Vanessa's winning too many comps for her own good
I understood why she had to win this one. To have Jackie, James and Jason win together would have definitely made her alliance targets this week
So glad Jackie won HOH. Was hoping Jason would win with her, hoping she doesn't let Vanessa get in her head.
I feel like Vanessa has been HOH all summer.. She's a very good player, all-around.
Jackie and Vanessa winning HOH <3
Vanessa needs to calm down on these wins, other than that she is a good gameplayer. Could be one of the next greats...
Excited to see what Jackie does with her HoH, definitely will see if she can get away from the Victoria-esque gameplay.
Currently watching some big brother 12 clips and HOLY **** Ragan has dragged Rachel through the dirt. His insults are too hilarious. I am literally crying.
So are the takeover twists over?
Loved that whole fight, still die when Ragen says "I'd take it as an honor if you didn't vote for me if I'm in the final two."
And of course, "Why don't you go get us a drink, Ra-tress?"
Don't know what I hate more about BOTB: The 2 HOHs working together, creation of a dominant alliance controlling the season, or nominees throwing the challenges. The whole thing just sucks up any conflict or drama that the twist was intended to create.
Is it weird that I love Julia but can't stand Liz? Also, I was so sad when James & Liz won. I love James but I want Austin out so badly and I just don't think Vanessa will go though with it. What does everyone else think?
I still have hope she'll go through with it but yeah Clay and Becky are epic fails ****
botb isn't used like it should be, I also don't like it because the hole thing is rushed. nominations/botb, veto/vetoceremony. you dont see anything that goes on.
Julia>>> Liz
You are officiallyamazing. Lol hairy beast.
****! Vanessa just sucks what's the point of backdooring Jason he poses zero threat to her game whereas Austin has proven time after time that he cannot be trusted he will screw her over the 1st chance he gets, also Shelli & Clay and Liz & Jullia are pairs they will screw her over the 1st chance they get, and let's face it she's to scared and paranoid to ever make a big move backdooring Austin would of strengthen her game she would of had Clay, Shelli, Liz, and Julia on one side and Jason, James, and Jackie on the other side. Just because you wear the beanie and the glasses doesn't make you the next Derrick I hope she gets a reality check next week.
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