[QUOTE=Camille;326413]I'm sorry I don't buy that Trishelle is this big mastermind. How? I think she thinks she is. Vegas just looks like a mess because of her and Alton. What did attacking Sarah accomplish other than make her look stupid when Sarah did volunteer herself in AND win? I agree with what Chet said about Trishelle on the podcast. When she drinks she just gets ridiculous. And if Trishelle is manipulating people and being this big mastermind, why is she hating on Jonna's game and calling her greedy and manipulative, when she's doing the same thing to win? Oh I see with Trishelle it's playing the game, with Jonna she's just being manipulative because Jasmine volunteered herself. Yeah, she's not making any sense.
And the biggest instance of the pot calling the kettle black is her calling Jonna trashy. This is the girl responsible for putting the trashy in the Real World. One of the trashiest stories I've ever heard involved Trishelle and Leonardo DiCaprio.
I was excited to see Trishelle on this challenge, but I now think she's full of herself, washed up and rude. She used to be so sensitive to people saying the things she's now saying about Jonna. She's probably jealous because she used to be the girl in Jonna's place. That's why Mandi went off on her on a podcast too after Trishelle got catty about her on twitter.
Anyway it sucks that Jasmine and CJ are gone. Loved Cancun. So I only have Robb and Marie to root for now.[/QUOTE]
After reading your novel, I am just curious about the whole Leo and Trishelle thing. The rest is irrelevant too me. Trishelle can do no wrong to me.
[QUOTE=Camille;326413]... Oh I see with Trishelle it's playing the game, with Jonna she's just being manipulative because Jasmine volunteered herself. Yeah, she's not making any sense.
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[B]Your words regarding Jonna, not mine[/B]. I think I've only met Jonna once and have never had a substantive conversation with her nor have I watched the Cancun season. I have, however, known Trishelle for some time, and I vastly prefer facts to speculation. Thus, I write what I believe to be true. I'll leave the guessing of intent to others.
Wait so Jonna has been a bum for 2 years? That makes no sense, Rivals wasn't even 2 years ago. Did she not think to get a job in the past 2 years.
I think the girl just loves the drama.
All I know is that when I first started watching this challenge, I didn't really root for Cancun. And that surprised me because their season of RW was what got me hooked on the show and they will always been one of my favorite casts. But coming into this they just seemed different. And obviously 3+ years has passed and people change, but if you told me 3 years ago that I would not have cared for their team to win at all I would have been like **** no.
That being said I was really sad to see CJ and Jasmine go.
Well Devyn said there's more to Jonna's story and that apparently she gets herself into the same situation again and again, so it's hard to feel sorry for her. There were rumors about some of her issues, but I don't want to get into that because it's just speculation based on what a Bad Girl and Cancun castmate alluded to. Cara Maria said Jonna has an interesting story and there's a lot more going on behind those pretty eyes than you might think.
I want to know why her and Zach moved out to LA, but then he moved back home.
Jonna really dropped the ball by not going in. The only upside to avoiding the elimination round is staying an extra week or two before eventually losing (because the game favors teams of 4 and Derek is a mediocre competitor at best). The upside to going into the elimination round with CJ is a better chance of keeping your team intact and eliminating a pair from a strong team in the process.
[QUOTE=Dash_Vegas!;326452]So next week is the last elimination then the final right??[/QUOTE]
It depends if there is a set number of elimination rounds or a set number of teams in the Final. If it is set at 3 teams in the Final, then it could vary from 2 to 5. If there is a set number of elimination rounds, who knows?
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;326455]It depends if there is a set number of elimination rounds or a set number of teams in the Final. If it is set at 3 teams in the Final, then it could vary from 2 to 5. If there is a set number of elimination rounds, who knows?[/QUOTE]
I still think TJ said the top 3 teams will make the finals which means it is set number of teams not elimination rounds--which is a good thing IMO
[QUOTE=townie;326394]CT has a level of physical strength and "craziness" to him in head-to-head competition that CJ could never begin to tap into...and he wouldn't be giving up 50 pounds. Put him in there with Zach in Hall Brawl and Zach is going flat on his *** everytime, I guarantee it.[/QUOTE]
What happened to CT's craziness factor when he went up against Taylor's size? Did he blow his shot on Johnny Bananas(?) :sarcastic:
Do both CT & Zach have their competitive lifting #'s listed(?) cuz idk, how someone can so confidently guarantee a beasting when giving up much known size. (only going on what they've both said: CT = 6'1 - 215lbs and Zach 6'4 - 240+) I could maybe see guaranteeing a win for CT if he employs a strategy like we saw, but as far as head-to-head competition, CJ got muscled, as expected. That's what was plainly observed.
[QUOTE=Frankie J;326462]What happened to CT's craziness factor when he went up against Taylor's size? Did he blow his shot on Johnny Bananas(?) :sarcastic:
Do both CT & Zach have their competitive lifting #'s listed(?) cuz idk, how someone can so confidently guarantee a beasting when giving up much known size. (only going on what they've both said: CT = 6'1 - 215lbs and Zach 6'4 - 240+) I could maybe see guaranteeing a win for CT if he employs a strategy like we saw, but as far as head-to-head competition, CJ got muscled, as expected. That's what was plainly observed.[/QUOTE]
Yet CJ won 3/5 rounds vs. Zach...people can spin it however they want. CT would own Zach. And who the heck is "Taylor" ? CT beat Tyler in that round as when they were finished, CT was much closer to his barrel than Tyler was his. And then CT owned Johnny and Tyler at the same time in Rivals..it was Adam that lost that match for himself and CT.
It seems that bigger is not always better, CJ smoked Zach in the elimination hands down, Zach hasn't proven anything to back the things he has said on twitter.
[QUOTE=Camille;326413]I'm sorry I don't buy that Trishelle is this big mastermind. How? I think she thinks she is. Vegas just looks like a mess because of her and Alton. What did attacking Sarah accomplish other than make her look stupid when Sarah did volunteer herself in AND win? I agree with what Chet said about Trishelle on the podcast. When she drinks she just gets ridiculous. And if Trishelle is manipulating people and being this big mastermind, why is she hating on Jonna's game and calling her greedy and manipulative, when she's doing the same thing to win? Oh I see with Trishelle it's playing the game, with Jonna she's just being manipulative because Jasmine volunteered herself. Yeah, she's not making any sense.
And the biggest instance of the pot calling the kettle black is her calling Jonna trashy. This is the girl responsible for putting the trashy in the Real World. One of the trashiest stories I've ever heard involved Trishelle and Leonardo DiCaprio.
I was excited to see Trishelle on this challenge, but I now think she's full of herself, washed up and rude. She used to be so sensitive to people saying the things she's now saying about Jonna. She's probably jealous because she used to be the girl in Jonna's place. That's why Mandi went off on her on a podcast too after Trishelle got catty about her on twitter.
Anyway it sucks that Jasmine and CJ are gone. Loved Cancun. So I only have Robb and Marie to root for now.[/QUOTE]
I agree with everything you said! I hope to never see her on a Challenge again.
I think Jonna should've went in. She's the one that needs to money so she should've done it. Her and CJ are stronger than Derek and Jasmine...and look at where she is now. She's not going to get very far with Derek. I mean yeah they have that alliance with San Diego but they've been losing a lot lately. So what if San Diego loses again? Who's to say that if San Diego gets last again that whoever wins power team won't just throw in Jonna and Derek? Neither of them have a chance against any of the San Diego team.
Speaking of which, Frank/Zach didn't bother me as much as they did last week. Frank is gonna have to go in one of these days. He can't keep avoiding the Arena (that is if they keep getting last place).
Devyn...eh, I like her better with long hair.
I'm sad that CJ and Jasmine got eliminated. They both went out with class. And I thought it was cute how they left. I hope both of them continue to do Challenges.
The food eating challenge was great. I really think that they should start doing these more instead of these extreme missions. Mainly because EVERYONE has a chance and you don't have to be an 5-star athlete to even have a chance to win.
**** I'm mad that we don't get an new episode next week...looks like there's gonna be drama left and right.
[QUOTE=Frankie J;326462]
Do both CT & Zach have their competitive lifting #'s listed(?) cuz idk, how someone can so confidently guarantee a beasting when giving up much known size. (only going on what they've both said: CT = 6'1 - 215lbs and Zach 6'4 - 240+) I could maybe see guaranteeing a win for CT if he employs a strategy like we saw, but as far as head-to-head competition, CJ got muscled, as expected. That's what was plainly observed.[/QUOTE]
CT does not, but Zach has his [url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=103757&draftyear=2010&genpos=WR]numbers from Pro Day[/url] in 2010.
[QUOTE=molds13;326474]CT does not, but Zach has his [URL="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=103757&draftyear=2010&genpos=WR"]numbers from Pro Day[/URL] in 2010.[/QUOTE]
Those seem to be underwhelming when compared to CJ. He has 35 lbs on CJ, but only did 4 more reps of 225.
According to Jonna's twitter, they had 2 days to debate over who was going in and even CJ was going back and forth about it. Jaz says that everyone thought Jonna should've went in but when they tried to debate it, jonna got ****** and walked out. Does that surprise anyone?
Does anyone else think Frank always bossed his friends around in order to be the red power ranger growing up?
I know the first 3 foods of that challenge were supposed to be delicious, but other than the Baklava, I'm pretty sure I would have taken the cow liver. If they used other Turkish foods like Tzatziki, bulgar, or even greek taboule and hummus, I would have been in heaven... although I guess that's not really part of the challenge :-P
Devyn looked so different!
When CJ won that first tie breaker round, I really thought he won it. I forgot he had to go two more times. And has production ever thought of elbow pads? Blood city!
I just started to realize again why I liked Jasmine! I really hate the coin flip idea, your fate rests in the hands of your teammate, last year it screwed over Mandi, this year it had potential of screwing over Sam. I miss the days that you had the ability to create the team that you wanted in a final if you played your cards right.
Here's another FYI: Cancun were going to split the money between the four of them even if only two members made it to the end. So thinking long term, Jasmine is the only member of Cancun who wouldn't have been able to handle a final, so it would be smarter to keep your strong girl Jonna there to have a better chance for everyone to get paid. I agree with Alexandra that it seemed like editing was trying to make Jonna look bad. And the other girls talked **** because they thought Jasmine was forced in.
Hey I wish Jasmine stayed too because I love her. She's hilarious and fun. Strategically, I would have never wanted CJ to go in actually. I think CJ and Jonna would have the best chance of making it to the end. I wouldn't risk them in an elimination round, especially against Zach and Sam (who is a much bigger girl than bony Jasmine and Jonna)
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;326468]I agree with everything you said! I hope to never see her on a Challenge again.[/QUOTE]
Yeah love you then! lol. Trishelle actually used to be so sweet on her season of Vegas. Then she started to change since all the fame and seemed rude and full of herself. I remember her being first out on Celebrity Poker. lol. Oh and I pm'ed the person who wanted to know about that trashy Trishelle/Leonardo DiCaprio story.
And to talk about something else in the episode, how awesome did my girl Devyn look with the natural fro?
[QUOTE=Camille;326491]Here's another FYI: Cancun were going to split the money between the four of them even if only two members made it to the end. So thinking long term, Jasmine is the only member of Cancun who wouldn't have been able to handle a final, so it would be smarter to keep your strong girl Jonna there to have a better chance for everyone to get paid. I agree with Alexandra that it seemed like editing was trying to make Jonna look bad. [/QUOTE]
That's pretty stupid of them to admit that they were going to breach contract and split the money.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;326493]That's pretty stupid of them to admit that they were going to breach contract and split the money.[/QUOTE]
It happens all the time. They said it on twitter, so I don't know if they will get in trouble. Trey just said on Alexandra's show that St Thomas had the same deal. They couldn't air those kind of deals on the challenge though, so instead Jonna just has to look bad.
[QUOTE=Camille;326491]Yeah love you then! lol. Trishelle actually used to be so sweet on her season of Vegas. Then she started to change since all the fame and seemed rude and full of herself. I remember her being first out on Celebrity Poker. lol.[/QUOTE]
When Vegas said they'd eat one pepper, I started to wonder if it was because Trishelle lost her last pepper eating challenge. :lol2:
But this team really has a decent position as the middle man in the game. Why try to win when you aren't getting sent in anyway? I also wondered why Cancun or San Diego even tried the final round, they're eating *** organs and the winning team is of course going in by Brooklyn. Insult to injury much?
And after hearing the money splitting issue... why did CJ even go in? That guy is really proving to be one of the worst strategists of all time. How awkward would Derek vs Zach have been?
[QUOTE=SkylarGuy23;326498]
And after hearing the money splitting issue... why did CJ even go in? That guy is really proving to be one of the worst strategists of all time. How awkward would Derek vs Zach have been?[/QUOTE]
If they really were going to split the money Jasmine & Derek should have just gone in knowing they were going to lose. CJ's definitely not very smart
[QUOTE=SkylarGuy23;326498]When Vegas said they'd eat one pepper, I started to wonder if it was because Trishelle lost her last pepper eating challenge. :lol2:
But this team really has a decent position as the middle man in the game. Why try to win when you aren't getting sent in anyway? I also wondered why Cancun or San Diego even tried the final round, they're eating *** organs and the winning team is of course going in by Brooklyn. Insult to injury much?
And after hearing the money splitting issue... why did CJ even go in? That guy is really proving to be one of the worst strategists of all time. How awkward would Derek vs Zach have been?[/QUOTE]
I remember Trishelle's pepper eating challenge well. She looked so sick during it. lol. I actually wanted her to stay because she was such a good tv and she wasn't afraid to stand up to Coral. Wonder how different The Inferno would have been had Trishelle stayed longer.
I agree with you about CJ. That's not good strategy if they were going to split the money. But he's a nice guy and everyone on Cancun is a family and I think CJ wanted to be seen as a noble leader for his team and he was going for the fair matchup. I wonder if Derek would have whined if they wanted to send him in.
Maybe CJ was praying to God and confident. The crazy thing is he almost did beat Zach. I thought any of them going against Zach was suicide. Zach has been kind of a disappointment after the way he and Frank talked themselves up on twitter. I never saw CJ bragging. I hope he gets invited back because the challenges do like to invite "the nice guy" like Landon (who is good friends with CJ as a matter of fact) and Mark.
[QUOTE=Camille;326491]Yeah love you then! lol. Trishelle actually used to be so sweet on her season of Vegas. Then she started to change since all the fame and seemed rude and full of herself. I remember her being first out on Celebrity Poker. lol. Oh and I pm'ed the person who wanted to know about that trashy Trishelle/Leonardo DiCaprio story.[/QUOTE]
Janelle, Parvati, and Trishelle are my top 3 reality girls but the story you told me came from Janelle so it loses creditability. If is true, more power to Trishelle by sleeping with one of the biggest names in Hollywood. Trishelle has change after her original season but I love the fiesty Trishelle!
[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;326466]Yet CJ won 3/5 rounds vs. Zach...people can spin it however they want. CT would own Zach. And who the heck is "Taylor" ? CT beat Tyler in that round as when they were finished, CT was much closer to his barrel than Tyler was his. And then CT owned Johnny and Tyler at the same time in Rivals..it was Adam that lost that match for himself and CT.[/QUOTE]
Spinning is harping 3/5 when that's not the game; he lost. I can name you plenty of boxers and wrestlers who won more rounds then lost in the end. "You play to win the game" :) Pushing the notion that a 2/5 performance is prophetic for the future matchups is invalid, cuz we saw Zach overcome the smaller/quicker player strategy. He'll either hurdle or catch enough of a grip to power a win. He discovered the big man strategy of Hall Brawl just in time.
CT blind-side-t-bone-ing the eventual winners [B]looked[/B] great, but it is what it is. If he did it head on, then it would really mean something as blowing out 2 unwitting ppl from the blind side is plainly expected for any decent football player. Zach not losing by alot in races to CJ is more impressive.
Absolutely, Adam lost it for them, and I'll add that CT can't be blamed for the Helicopter pilot doing them dirty by flying so differently for him causing them to go into the elimination...as was the officiating in the 1st run of this arena as CJ clearly wrestled Zach from behind after getting pushed back to his entrance.
Tyler, my fault. Unless the cast's post show accounts were untrue, it was a competitive match that lasted a LONG time, it wasn't the 19 seconds the episode showed. Tyler is the comparison to Zach, not the rest.
[QUOTE=molds13;326474]CT does not, but Zach has his [url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=103757&draftyear=2010&genpos=WR]numbers from Pro Day[/url] in 2010.[/QUOTE]
thnx
[QUOTE=stuufman;326467]It seems that bigger is not always better, CJ smoked Zach in the elimination hands down, Zach hasn't proven anything to back the things he has said on twitter.[/QUOTE]
I guess the deciding run was where the [B]not[/B] part of[I] not always better[/I] comes in. :)
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