The Challenge: Free Agents - Live Free or Die

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[QUOTE=kvm1977;401873]Johnny's not stupid. He knows Jordan is stupid. He couldn't say a name without him being a target so he tried to use logic. Jordan & Co just are idiots. As we saw for a fact with Jordan in the preview[/QUOTE] Completely agree. I don't get the point trying to be made that Johnny is a bad guy for doing this and comparing it to his behavior in the first episode of Rivals II. He was calling the exact same strategy dumb in both instances.
Guys, I really can't stand Jessica but I was actually really happy for her that she made it across the log. I don't know what's happening to me...
[QUOTE=JayTee;401872]lol okay then let's say Swift or Isaac. I would feel confident going up against either of these 2 in an elimination. Swift is pretty small and Isaac's biggest strength is his humor and frohawk.[/QUOTE] Or Cohutta or Brandon or Chet or Johnny R I'd go against Dustin or Jordan in a heartbeat later in the game I just want to target the threat TO ME
[QUOTE=JL81790;401874]Completely agree. I don't get the point trying to be made that Johnny is a bad guy for doing this and comparing it to his behavior in the first episode of Rivals II. He was calling the exact same strategy dumb in both instances.[/QUOTE] When did i call johnny a bad guy? but he holds grudges if people vote for him is my point, and his ultimate plan can be similar when it benefits him, he will clearly do the same stuff.
[QUOTE=JayTee;401872]lol okay then let's say Swift or Isaac. I would feel confident going up against either of these 2 in an elimination. Swift is pretty small and Isaac's biggest strength is his humor and frohawk.[/QUOTE] I honestly wouldn't feel too comfortable. I was always told to never doubt your opponent unless it's Preston.
[QUOTE=jojorules;401878]When did i call johnny a bad guy? but he holds grudges if people vote for him is my point, and his ultimate plan can be similar when it benefits him, he will clearly do the same stuff.[/QUOTE] Who on this show doesn't hold a grudge? Yes, Johnny is sometimes insane (see him targeting Rachel and Aneesa--pure stupidity) but Johnny was completely right here
[QUOTE=WittyWrath;401879]I honestly wouldn't feel too comfortable. I was always good to never doubt your opponent unless it's Preston.[/QUOTE] You don't assume you're going to win but if I had to go in I'd want Preston, Cohutta, Swift, Isaac, Johnny R, Chet or Brandon...so I'm not sending them in when I'm safe
[QUOTE=kvm1977;401880]Who on this show doesn't hold a grudge? Yes, Johnny is sometimes insane (see him targeting Rachel and Aneesa--pure stupidity) but Johnny was completely right here[/QUOTE] I agree he(johnny) is right that is what he isnt' getting...but johnny does hold more of a grudge than most. Some people are like that's how the cards fell type style for losing, johnny uses it as motivation. It obviously works for johnny so i would do the same if i were him haha..Johnny and ct's friendship took a hit a bit when ct went after him on rivals 2 but they are still friend sbut their is still kind of a distrust on johnny's end because of it. i just find it kind of funny he takes it very personally/. The girls are another story they form so many fake friendships that get immediately extinguished as soon as the challenge drama starts it's hilarious. The guys at least seem to be legit friends
Why is Frank claiming he's friends with Chet...them being friends seems weird to me
[QUOTE=kvm1977;401881]You don't assume you're going to win but if I had to go in I'd want Preston, Cohutta, Swift, Isaac, Johnny R, Chet or Brandon...so I'm not sending them in when I'm safe[/QUOTE] Maybe I'm overthinking which couldn't cost me the game in the end if I was on but I feel keeping a even playing field would be better for my game.
Ummm Jasmine is definitely drunk on Twitter right now. Posting spoilers, making like 10 tweets in a row at Nia, and half of them have "drunk text" grammar lol.
[QUOTE=WittyWrath;401885]Maybe I'm overthinking which couldn't cost me the game in the end if I was on but I feel keeping a even playing field would be better for my game.[/QUOTE] Yes, you're overthinking this. It is an individual game. You keep around the people you'd want to face off with. That's it.
Nia and Jaz need to stop tweeting, neither one is "owning" anyone and both seem like idiots..With all this trash talk, i hope both go far or they are complete clowns
[QUOTE=Gucci Mane;401886]Ummm Jasmine is definitely drunk on Twitter right now. Posting spoilers, making like 10 tweets in a row at Nia, and half of them look like drunk text grammar lol.[/QUOTE] Hopefully she gets a fine and is not invited back for the next challenge.
ct not being on the episode very much, how he was trending is kind of crazy. Must have been him stripping
[QUOTE=jojorules;401890]ct not being on the episode very much, how he was trending is kind of crazy. Must have been him stripping[/QUOTE] He did strip...he definitely got some air time. CT is loved--he'll get his time.
"funny thing is you was friendly with every ***** in the house but then afterwards you want to go on Twitter and talk s*** you are fake as b****** they won't be calling you back" One of the most frustrating things with people in general is how they accuse you of stuff that THEY do themselves. Lol is she high?
[QUOTE=kvm1977;401867]And, as a straight dude, him being cute is irrelevant to me. He's kind of stupid. I did give him credit for being in better shape[/QUOTE] I don't see how that could be irrelevant to you. Straight, gay, bi, male, female... the cuteness of Isaac is something that we all should be able to appreciate. I mean do you see this man? He is a God. The "he's kind of stupid" hurt me a little bit. I think I may be getting a little attached. :numbness: next thing I know I'm going to end up like ya'll on here everyday arguing about nothing. lol and I don't know why you felt the need to mention that you are a "straight dude". I think anybody that has ever been on here is very familiar with you. :cool:
[QUOTE=kvm1977;401891]He did strip...he definitely got some air time. CT is loved--he'll get his time.[/QUOTE] Compared to rivals 2 he didn't get A TON of time i wouldn't' say. he got that one scene basically, but as you said he's loved so he made it count. Rivals 2 premiere was like 90 percent ct stuff it felt like. He wans't part of the focal storyline is my point yet was trending. Says a lot about why mtv gives him the big bucks to show up
Did anyone else find it weird that CT wasn't present for the discussion the black team had on who they were going to send in?
[QUOTE=kvm1977;401887]Yes, you're overthinking this. It is an individual game. You keep around the people you'd want to face off with. That's it.[/QUOTE] So me wanting to also keep around strong players equals keeping people I want to face off with. We have the same goal just two different views on how to get there plain and simple.
I really really like the team situations. Do you vote in someone strong? Weak? Someone you don't like? Someone you think you can/can't beat? There's so many dynamics and it was interesting seeing why each person chose the way the voted, although they didn't all vote honestly.
Wow I am definitely digging the format this season! I like how it will be difficult for alliances to control the game now. You pretty much have to let your game do the talking now. This has potential to be one of the best seasons.
It was interesting how 3/4 competitors in the elimination were all finalists on their most recent season. So are we calling it "elimination" this season? Cause it has no official name, and duel doesn't feel right. I'd also like to point out, i'm so glad to see 1 on 1 games again.. this episode was just such a breath of fresh air, I can't get over it. I really hope the ratings did okay.
[QUOTE=timster3;401903]It was interesting how 3/4 competitors in the elimination were all finalists on their most recent season. So are we calling it "elimination" this season? Cause it has no official name, and duel doesn't feel right. I'd also like to point out, i'm so glad to see 1 on 1 games again.. this episode was just such a breath of fresh air, I can't get over it. I really hope the ratings did okay.[/QUOTE] I'm just going to refer to the whole card flipping/elimination process as The Draw. Makes it easier.
[QUOTE=timster3;401903]It was interesting how 3/4 competitors in the elimination were all finalists on their most recent season. So are we calling it "elimination" this season? Cause it has no official name, and duel doesn't feel right. I'd also like to point out, i'm so glad to see 1 on 1 games again.. this episode was just such a breath of fresh air, I can't get over it. I really hope the ratings did okay.[/QUOTE] I totally agree. I watch the show for the 1 on 1 competition as opposed to the fabricated drama.
Afterthoughts: I am so over Jasmine & her trashiness. Her challenge run needs to end with Free Agents. I love the Draw. It adds an unexpectedness to the elimination that was sorely needed. The premiere was awesome. I am loving the season already.
OKAY LOVED FREE AGENTS! The mission was great, location/house is sick, cast is not bad, elimination was really good and intense! I'm mad Chet quit though... he won't be coming back, THANK GOD! His and Frank's battle was just getting good too! He could have possibly won. I like LaToya but she gives me a BGASB vibe lol. She talks a lot of **** but she did good. She can hold her own in a physical elimination with someone her size but give her something strategic and she will fail. I enjoyed The Draw very much but I wish they would flip cards at the same time! My only problem really though is the voting process. I saw in this thread someone talking about but the voting needs to be anonymous like on Cutthroat. The whole group voting thing was whack and kinda awkward. Not as organized as Rivals II. As for the twitter beefs tonight, Jasmine needs to stop before Nia whoops her *** next season. Robin is really trying to get on a challenge next season and I think BMP should do. I like this Robin, this is the old her and I love that. Jay and Jordan idk. Jay started it though. Averey and Thomas was quite comical.
Jay is so desperate he will probably use Jess for whatever it takes to get on the next one. That guy is beyond shady. The fact his entire house realized this at once at the reunion says what we all were already kind of questioning. Pitiful....Decent scheme though, pick a fight with jordan, side with Jess, try to get on her podcast, etc.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;401849]I would have voted Zach and LaToya. I'd target strong guys (as a guy) and weak women...LaToya should have been seen as weak based on the first challenge[/QUOTE] Weren't you the one saying last week that sending in strong people would make the weak people make it to the final and you didn't like that? I get why you would do it but you know... Voting needs to anonymous! It would make things way more interesting!

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