I don't think CT wants to be buddies with him, just like on a state where he can say they are cool and him not F him over on the game out of spite. I think he is probably worried Adam will quit on him. The we friends thing to me is more like "are we cool" or still a grudge?
CT does look genuinely remorseful and I didn't realize it was right before he was going to Duel 2 that his brothered died. I thought it was close to Duel 2, but not like right before. Sad. It does bother me that JEK on podcasts rip him for the brawl too and never once mention he was going through stuff, it's not like Adam was innocent in it either as he has admitted. Mark long always gives both sides when he is on the podcast, i like when he is on it. He seems like he can be friends with both but unbiased.
I don't know how real CT's nice guy thing is, but on tv he's coming off really well this season. And the other guys are coming off really bad looking scared and making him the outcast.
Not only did going on the Duel 2 two months after his brother's death contribute to his rough mental state at the time in general, but I think there were some general parallels between the circumstances of his brother's murder and the situation he found himself in with Adam once he got to New Zealand.
CT's brother was provoked by a single coward who only chose to provoke him because he had a gang of his friends around him at all times. Adam verbally and physically provoked him and lets be real, the only reason he had that much courage was because he was in a room full of his friends. When he then called CT a coward & hit him in the head with a beer can, I think something inside CT just snapped... like he saw Adam at the time as representing the same kind of person from a character standpoint that killed his brother.
I really don't think their past history contributed much, if anything, to CT's level of aggression towards him. I genuinely think that, hypothetically, it didn't matter who on the cast was in Adam's position on that show. He would've gone off on them like that to that degree regardless of who it was.
[QUOTE=townie;261822]Not only did going on the Duel 2 two months after his brother's death contribute to his rough mental state at the time in general, but I think there were some general parallels between the circumstances of his brother's murder and the situation he found himself in with Adam once he got to New Zealand.
CT's brother was provoked by a single coward who only chose to provoke him because he had a gang of his friends around him at all times. Adam verbally and physically provoked him and lets be real, the only reason he had that much courage was because he was in a room full of his friends. When he then called CT a coward & hit him in the head with a beer can, I think something inside CT just snapped... like he saw Adam at the time as representing the same kind of person from a character standpoint that killed his brother.
I really don't think their past history contributed much, if anything, to CT's level of aggression towards him. I genuinely think that, hypothetically, it didn't matter who on the cast was in Adam's position on that show. He would've gone off on them like that to that degree regardless of who it was.[/QUOTE]
CT is guilty too, he started to provoke Adam about that thing with Shauvon and Diem.
[QUOTE=townie;261822]Not only did going on the Duel 2 two months after his brother's death contribute to his rough mental state at the time in general, but I think there were some general parallels between the circumstances of his brother's murder and the situation he found himself in with Adam once he got to New Zealand.
CT's brother was provoked by a single coward who only chose to provoke him because he had a gang of his friends around him at all times. Adam verbally and physically provoked him and lets be real, the only reason he had that much courage was because he was in a room full of his friends. When he then called CT a coward & hit him in the head with a beer can, I think something inside CT just snapped... like he saw Adam at the time as representing the same kind of person from a character standpoint that killed his brother.
I really don't think their past history contributed much, if anything, to CT's level of aggression towards him. I genuinely think that, hypothetically, it didn't matter who on the cast was in Adam's position on that show. He would've gone off on them like that to that degree regardless of who it was.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking how CT beating up Adam made CT think that what he's doing to Adam is no different than what someone else did his to brother. Adam has a brother and sister. He has a loving family. CT beating up Adam, with the potential to kill him probably opened his eyes to see that what he did to Adam that night, would be no different than some guy gunning down his brother. If CT killed Adam, he would cause hurt to Adam's family.
[QUOTE=inferno;261670]If you don't know if he can fight, then what makes you think that you could hang with him? For all you know he could be a black belt.[/QUOTE]
For all you know, I could be a black belt.
[QUOTE=DaLeadBull;261856]For all you know, I could be a black belt.[/QUOTE]
For all you know, he crushes bear necks on the weekend for fun. For all I know, you bench press whales as a warm up. See what I did there? All these hypothetical scenarios are annoying. I'm not saying you alone are annoying, all these CT would win in a fight against so and so but lose to so and so is annoying. At least the comparisons to Landon and Darrell make sense, we know what they look like and what kind of shape they are in. All we know about you is that you think you can "hang" with CT but that is what you want us to think. All we know for sure is that you're just some keyboard warrior. Just like the rest of us.
[QUOTE=faceless;261863]For all you know, he crushes bear necks on the weekend for fun. For all I know, you bench press whales as a warm up. See what I did there? All these hypothetical scenarios are annoying. I'm not saying you alone are annoying, all these CT would win in a fight against so and so but lose to so and so is annoying. At least the comparisons to Landon and Darrell make sense, we know what they look like and what kind of shape they are in. All we know about you is that you think you can "hang" with CT but that is what you want us to think. [B]All we know for sure is that you're just some keyboard warrior. Just like the rest of us.[/B][/QUOTE]
Preach it, bro!
[QUOTE=faceless;261863]For all you know, he crushes bear necks on the weekend for fun. For all I know, you bench press whales as a warm up. See what I did there? All these hypothetical scenarios are annoying. I'm not saying you alone are annoying, all these CT would win in a fight against so and so but lose to so and so is annoying. At least the comparisons to Landon and Darrell make sense, we know what they look like and what kind of shape they are in. All we know about you is that you think you can "hang" with CT but that is what you want us to think. All we know for sure is that you're just some keyboard warrior. Just like the rest of us.[/QUOTE]
The difference is I'm not trying to convince anyone that I can 'hang' with CT, I'm just amazed at how everyone is building this guy up to a 'godlike' status. lol
I know what I can do and I've seen what CT can do (more or less) through years of watching him on challenges etc and I'll leave it at that.
I wasn't trying to be a tough guy sitting behind the keyboard, the point I was trying to make was that all this blowing smoke up CT's butt has to stop. Especially those two guys Econ and Hosah, they came in here and took over this whole thread and took it to creepy stalker worship level. lmao
Wow, Bull, your first comment was utterly funny and strangely good natured. This one, however, is extraordinarily tasteless and a little mean spirited. One of the few things that truly upset me is for a person to call me a creepy stalker. To be honest with my peers and God, that comment made me want to forget about this whole MTV thing for good because it insulted me beyond any explanation I could ever provide you with. Thank you for your insensitivity and apathy.
[QUOTE=Econ1260MetZ;261910]Wow, Bull, your first comment was utterly funny and strangely good natured. This one, however, is extraordinarily tasteless and a little mean spirited. One of the few things that truly upset me is for a person to call me a creepy stalker. To be honest with my peers and God, that comment made me want to forget about this whole MTV thing for good because it insulted me beyond any explanation I could ever provide you with. Thank you for your insensitivity and apathy.[/QUOTE]
I will agree that what LaDeadBull said was kind of mean. But just take a step back for a minute. Forget about how you feel and go back and read some of what you wrote about CT, understanding that he is an actual person and not just a character. Think about how you might feel if you were CT and some random guy on the internet was writing that stuff about you. I certainly wouldn't go so far as to call you a stalker, but it all just seems a little over the top.
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;261924]I will agree that what LaDeadBull said was kind of mean. But just take a step back for a minute. Forget about how you feel and go back and read some of what you wrote about CT, understanding that he is an actual person and not just a character. Think about how you might feel if you were CT and some random guy on the internet was writing that stuff about you. I certainly wouldn't go so far as to call you a stalker, but it all just seems a little over the top.[/QUOTE]
Exactly what I was thinking. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Really guys, I have said over the top comments about Ct. Yeah, I did, I am sorry. It's just that anytime somebody feels threaten because of PTSD related incidents I come to his/her rescue. I appreciate that you guys aren't simply throwing shots at me. PS You will have to forgive me for saying sorry, I use it as a form of courtesy and respect
Back on the rivals topic rather than if he can kill certain people, CT actually seemed to put a legit effort towards showing Adam he is different. Adam said on his blog CT ran interference for him so he/Jenn could cuddle in privacy because Jenn did not want it to be caught on camera. She said because she didn't wnat ANOTHER hookup on acmera, but after what she said, maybe she just was lonely and didn't want to get caught with Adam specifically.
CT not only has treated him well but helping him with Jenn, all he wants to hear is you say you like him, even if you don't mean it Adam! Even though CT doesn't care if they don't like him, it does suck that he is hated by EVERYONE and i am sure JEK tell everyone to not go near him and talk *** to the rookies about him.
CT isn't some new totally changed guy IMO, he just has adjusted to his biggest flaw and that's violence . He always was chill according to a lot of castmembers when he wasn't in a rage. He gets in a rage sometimes as we have seen from the Wes thing, but as long as he isn't violent, who really cares. We saw on the Duel 1 he can be a good guy, and i think that dq with Brad kind of made him come to challenges "meaner" and with a ton of bad feelings. He really never flipped out until after the Duel 1 and that was 150 K that he missed out on.
A local paper, the Eagle Tribune, ran a story today about CT & Cara Maria appearing on Rivals.
[url=http://www.eagletribune.com/lifestyle/x202403448/RIVALING-REALITY]RIVALING REALITY[/url]
Sounds like the new podcast later today will be very CT heavy. Adam is talking about what went down during the whole fight, and Sarah is talking about her handwriting thing which according to Johnny she described CT exactly based on his. Wes/CT are Derrick's two favorite topics on those things, he always brings CT up at least. I don't mind because he is one of, if not the most, interesting people in challenges, but i find it funny. Every single person on podcasts/forums anywhere really say he is an absolute beast but Kenny.
He also is explaining all the negative posts about his Wes interview, dude negative comments happen everyone can't love you. It just sounds like backpeddling to me if you are trying to please every side now after the fact but we will see. If there are facts that disapprove what someone is sayng, it doesn't make you a bad host to bring it up to get the truth. You can still be respectful and disagree with someone. Plenty of hosts ask tough questions, not saying he has to be, but just saying it isn't unheard of. All his guests are pretty upfront about their feelings towards people, so it's not like they are holding back.
Very anxious to see what Adam has to say about not only CT but also the whole Jenn situation. I'm also interested in hearing more to the story of CT getting upset with Sarah for "reading" his handwriting.
When it comes to Derrick seeming two-faced on the podcast, I see both sides. As the host, he has to make his guests feel comfortable. He can't just go off on how much he hates the person who took the time out of their day to talk to him on his podcast. So I see why he's nice to everyone who comes on the show.
BUT - the problem is there is a difference between being respectful to your guest and just downright lying. He said one thing to Wes' "face" and then completely trashed him on the following podcast. I listen to Derrick's podcast because they are interesting, but it does get rather annoying that it is so incredibly biased. I was actually excited Derrick had Wes on -- and it was a breath of fresh air to listen to somebody on the other side of JEK. But there he goes again on the following podcast, completely crawling right back up JEK's *********.
Just got finished listening to the podcast with Sarah & Adam...the description of CT's handwriting was truly one of the funniest things I've heard on one of these podcasts. You guys should definitely check it out.
When Adam was explaining why he believes he & CT butt heads so much, he was dead on in his assessment of CT being a loyal person and the kind of person where if you break his trust, he takes it to heart and holds a grudge.
One thing I do like about Derrick's podcasts compared to Katie and Robin's is that the guests actually get to talk and articulate on things. Katie wasn't even on Rivals and Robin was only there for 1 episode and they always talk over Adam and cut him off when he's on there when he can actually provide much more insight and discussion on what happened on the show since he was there for so long.
Adam/Sarah was a good combo to have on together. Derrick basically was saying they(everyone but Adam) have no reason to not like him besides he is more athletic than the rest and the biggest threat to them winning.
[QUOTE=townie;263009]
One thing I do like about Derrick's podcasts compared to Katie and Robin's is that the guests actually get to talk and articulate on things. Katie wasn't even on Rivals and Robin was only there for 1 episode and they always talk over Adam and cut him off when he's on there when he can actually provide much more insight and discussion on what happened on the show since he was there for so long.[/QUOTE]
I agree, it's so hard to even watch Robin/Katie's thing they're so disorganized and constantly go on tangents and Katie keeps getting distracted and interrupts Robin and and yeah they have Robin there who barely knows what's going on because she's not even on the show anymore and is still bitter at Ev and that's all she really talks about. And they sometimes have guests who are not even on the show and they talk over ppl who were like Adam.
Yeah it's a bit chaotic to say the least, although I did get quite a laugh on their one recap when Fitzy asked Adam if he wanted to lick Johnny, Evan, and Kenny's ********* during the one recap because he kept sticking up for them lol.
[QUOTE=townie;263009]When Adam was explaining why he believes he & CT butt heads so much, he was dead on in his assessment of CT being a loyal person and the kind of person where if you break his trust, he takes it to heart and holds a grudge.
One thing I do like about Derrick's podcasts compared to Katie and Robin's is that the guests actually get to talk and articulate on things. Katie wasn't even on Rivals and Robin was only there for 1 episode and they always talk over Adam and cut him off when he's on there when he can actually provide much more insight and discussion on what happened on the show since he was there for so long.[/QUOTE]
Adam seems to hold more of a grudge about their beef than CT (although to be fair Adam has more to be angry about).
That being said, I can see where CT's coming from with being annoyed that Adam bad-mouths him behind his back but is too afraid to talk *** to his face. BUT at the same time, CT really shouldn't expect trust and loyalty from someone who he does a reality show with, ya know? He shouldn't have been so quick to invest trust in someone like Adam, so that part is kind of his fault.
I could understand his anger more if Adam were like a close friend he hung out w/outside the show, but it doesn't seem like they were ever really that close to begin with.
From Adam's new blog....[QUOTE]This deliberation was a lot funnier than it looked. We all know you're not allowed to sing copyrighted material on the show because then MTV has to pay the artist for it. However, [b]CT was singing "Many men" by 50 cent the entire time[/b], and I've got to hand it to the editors, they managed to cut it all out.[/QUOTE]
*****
[QUOTE=Cass;264258]From Adam's new blog....
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The chorus of that song includes the line:
"I put a hole in a (person) for (messing) with me"
I figured after the tragedy that happened to his brother, things like that might be a little sensitive to him. Maybe he never even thought about the lyrics like that.
[QUOTE=superchico;264297]The chorus of that song includes the line:
"I put a hole in a (person) for (messing) with me"
I figured after the tragedy that happened to his brother, things like that might be a little sensitive to him. Maybe he never even thought about the lyrics like that.[/QUOTE]
He probably just sang the line "Many men, many, many, many, many men, wish death 'pon me".
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