Stop what? This entire board was down a few posters' throats when the Fresh Meat debates were made. It was said that the same ones who chastise others for not liking the FM when they KNOW they would hate it if any other show came on board. People were like "that's absurd. The shows are made from different companies, the shows have different premises, etc."
Fast forward to now & what do we have. IMO they probably won't do it, judging from the backlash that even the casuals have for it, but the AYTO being on show opens the door for ANYBODY to be on if they choose.
I believe some people already cleared that with different companies and different premises even five months ago, but people were just keeping only that argument against them. They're different and a dating show while they forgot that AYTO uses similar things on the shows (Daily challenges, same casting pool, same people like on the RW, same game-thinking style on the show for a prize money) and after Ex-Plosion you could almost say that most of the recent storylines on this past Real Worlds were about love with another cast member aka dating. Skeletons hopefully put an end to that. So to me, Real World became also like a dating show.
I said stop, because of what you were saying that anybody can come to do this challenge now, because I'm not sure on that. The cast members on almost every other show on MTV have bigger contract fees than the actual first place prize money on the Challenge. So, MTV won't use those people. MTV just used AYTO people, because Exes fits so good with AYTO and AYTO being almost exactly like a mix of the Challenge and the Real World and to me that's a great idea. Sure, they will not do a AYTO vs. RR thing, but I think overall 10 people from both seasons would be good casting additions for the next challenges, far better than some people on the recent Real Worlds. I mean, do you really think that somebody who was quiet/ almost non-existent on his / her Real World season would a good casting addition for a challenge?
JJ is still hilarious and looks somewhat fit, Simone is still ratchet and hilarious. I hope Simone fights Jonna, Id like to see that go down.
having Ayto probably one of the worst casting decisions they've made in a long time, they are going to be HORRIBLE and UNBEARABLE.
Fixed it for you
Could you please tell me why do you think that this is already one of the worst casting in a long time and why they are going to be HORRIBLE and UNBEARABLE without even watching one single episode of Battle of the Exes 2 or even the trailer? At least watch the first episode and then write something about this.
I mean the producers did already cause some buzz about them being on this challenge whether it was bad (mostly) or positive (mostly just around the AYTO people), but it was a whole lot of something and honestly with Bananas getting a second imaginary Ex and production allowing him to be on this challenge is far worst in my opinion. Imagine they would've cast Trey / Laura and the other couple that was an alternative? Silence would've cause more buzz then them on this challenge and I don't think Darrell/Rachel would be a good "TV/drama" team for an Exes season, they get along just too good with eachother. And those that still using the former name of this show and an contra-argument for NOAYTO that whole argument is basically nothing to me since it ended when Road Rules got canceled, Fresh Meat was filmed and MTV owning the rights now. And don't say that we might see Teen Moms on the next challenge. It's ridiculous since there are total different show while one isn't a competition show and they other just show the flaws of being a far too young mom.
In my opinion they just wanted to create some buzz for the first couple of episodes since it's usually the rookies (with basically no name) that get send in and the vets being too afraid to make early moves and having AYTO people there just creates another storyline, another twist and most importantly more drama without even doing too much.
Everybody was saying this same shit when it came to AYTO ("its a totally different show") & now look...
Stop! AYTO and The Challenge are not different. They both have a large prize money, they both have daily challenges. They both are reality competition shows!
JJ is still hilarious and looks somewhat fit, Simone is still ratchet and hilarious. I hope Simone fights Jonna, Id like to see that go down.
having Ayto probably one of the worst casting decisions they've made in a long time, they are going to be HORRIBLE and UNBEARABLE.
Fixed it for you
Could you please tell me why do you think that this is already one of the worst casting in a long time and why they are going to be HORRIBLE and UNBEARABLE without even watching one single episode of Battle of the Exes 2 or even the trailer? At least watch the first episode and then write something about this.
I mean the producers did already cause some buzz about them being on this challenge whether it was bad (mostly) or positive (mostly just around the AYTO people), but it was a whole lot of something and honestly with Bananas getting a second imaginary Ex and production allowing him to be on this challenge is far worst in my opinion. Imagine they would've cast Trey / Laura and the other couple that was an alternative? Silence would've cause more buzz then them on this challenge and I don't think Darrell/Rachel would be a good "TV/drama" team for an Exes season, they get along just too good with eachother.
In my opinion they just wanted to create some buzz for the first couple of episodes since it's usually the rookies (with basically no name) that get send in and the vets being too afraid to make early moves and having AYTO people there just creates another storyline, another twist and most importantly more drama without even doing too much.
Bananas at least belongs on the show, he isn't some random person from some stupid dating show most challenge fans have barely even heard of. They have no business being there because ayto isn't even owned the the same company.
OMG! But this season is called "BATTLE OF THE EXES 2" for god's sakes! I mean if nobody (viewer) knows why Bananas and Nany are considered exes, it's a far more stupid casting choice than people that we know have some history and apparently a lot of people do know them if they know where they're coming from. Most people on social media are like "Why are the people for AYTO on this challenge?" and not "Who are these people?" that a huge difference! Most people I know (even on this site), don't watch the Real World anymore and for them there're just new people from this other show (Whether it's RW or AYTO doesn't matter) Just google "Are you the One?" and bam you know it, they already do it when people from the newiest RW appear on the next challenge, so it's not very different.
You know though that all three shows (RW, AYTO and The Challenge) are owned by MTV. BMP and Lighthearted Entertainment are just the production companies, they just produce and edit the shows for MTV! BMP / LE get paid by MTV for their shows and even the prize money is from MTV (especially the apparence fee). The only thing that BMP/ LE do not produce and edit are the reunions. So, I don't get why they have no business being there.
They don't belong on the show because they are on some stupid dating show that has nothing to do with the challenge , the real world people are, realworld is challenge related hell even that spring break shit Camila did is more challenge related than ayto.
No that's not right. AYTO being on this challenge is just another semi Fresh Meat thing. That's all there is except that this people were on another show on MTV previously. And in the end MTV got what it want. We're talking about those four (!) AYTO people!
It isn't fresh meat because the fresh meat people were on freshmeat, a season of the challenge specifically made to incorporate new constants. AYTO has nothing to do with the challenge so they shouldn't be here plain and simple.
It isn't fresh meat because the fresh meat people were on freshmeat, a season of the challenge specifically made to incorporate new constants. AYTO has nothing to do with the challenge so they shouldn't be here plain and simple.
The point they are making is that Fresh Meat and AYTO were cast out of Real World rejects. I find AYTO to be annoying but these people are the exact ones you would see had there been a Fresh Meat 3.
It isn't fresh meat because the fresh meat people were on freshmeat, a season of the challenge specifically made to incorporate new constants. AYTO has nothing to do with the challenge so they shouldn't be here plain and simple.
The point they are making is that Fresh Meat and AYTO were cast out of Real World rejects. I find AYTO to be annoying but these people are the exact ones you would see had there been a Fresh Meat 3.
And if they were on a freshmeat 3 I'd be fine with seeing them on the challenge.
JJ is still hilarious and looks somewhat fit, Simone is still ratchet and hilarious. I hope Simone fights Jonna, Id like to see that go down.
having Ayto probably one of the worst casting decisions they've made in a long time, they are going to be HORRIBLE and UNBEARABLE.
Fixed it for you
Could you please tell me why do you think that this is already one of the worst casting in a long time and why they are going to be HORRIBLE and UNBEARABLE without even watching one single episode of Battle of the Exes 2 or even the trailer? At least watch the first episode and then write something about this.
I mean the producers did already cause some buzz about them being on this challenge whether it was bad (mostly) or positive (mostly just around the AYTO people), but it was a whole lot of something and honestly with Bananas getting a second imaginary Ex and production allowing him to be on this challenge is far worst in my opinion. Imagine they would've cast Trey / Laura and the other couple that was an alternative? Silence would've cause more buzz then them on this challenge and I don't think Darrell/Rachel would be a good "TV/drama" team for an Exes season, they get along just too good with eachother. And those that still using the former name of this show and an contra-argument for NOAYTO that whole argument is basically nothing to me since it ended when Road Rules got canceled, Fresh Meat was filmed and MTV owning the rights now. And don't say that we might see Teen Moms on the next challenge. It's ridiculous since there are total different show while one isn't a competition show and they other just show the flaws of being a far too young mom.
In my opinion they just wanted to create some buzz for the first couple of episodes since it's usually the rookies (with basically no name) that get send in and the vets being too afraid to make early moves and having AYTO people there just creates another storyline, another twist and most importantly more drama without even doing too much.
Everybody was saying this same shit when it came to AYTO ("its a totally different show") & now look...
Stop! AYTO and The Challenge are not different. They both have a large prize money, they both have daily challenges. They both are reality competition shows!
JJ is still hilarious and looks somewhat fit, Simone is still ratchet and hilarious. I hope Simone fights Jonna, Id like to see that go down.
having Ayto probably one of the worst casting decisions they've made in a long time, they are going to be HORRIBLE and UNBEARABLE.
Fixed it for you
Could you please tell me why do you think that this is already one of the worst casting in a long time and why they are going to be HORRIBLE and UNBEARABLE without even watching one single episode of Battle of the Exes 2 or even the trailer? At least watch the first episode and then write something about this.
I mean the producers did already cause some buzz about them being on this challenge whether it was bad (mostly) or positive (mostly just around the AYTO people), but it was a whole lot of something and honestly with Bananas getting a second imaginary Ex and production allowing him to be on this challenge is far worst in my opinion. Imagine they would've cast Trey / Laura and the other couple that was an alternative? Silence would've cause more buzz then them on this challenge and I don't think Darrell/Rachel would be a good "TV/drama" team for an Exes season, they get along just too good with eachother.
In my opinion they just wanted to create some buzz for the first couple of episodes since it's usually the rookies (with basically no name) that get send in and the vets being too afraid to make early moves and having AYTO people there just creates another storyline, another twist and most importantly more drama without even doing too much.
Bananas at least belongs on the show, he isn't some random person from some stupid dating show most challenge fans have barely even heard of. They have no business being there because ayto isn't even owned the the same company.
OMG! But this season is called "BATTLE OF THE EXES 2" for god's sakes! I mean if nobody (viewer) knows why Bananas and Nany are considered exes, it's a far more stupid casting choice than people that we know have some history and apparently a lot of people do know them if they know where they're coming from. Most people on social media are like "Why are the people for AYTO on this challenge?" and not "Who are these people?" that a huge difference! Most people I know (even on this site), don't watch the Real World anymore and for them there're just new people from this other show (Whether it's RW or AYTO doesn't matter) Just google "Are you the One?" and bam you know it, they already do it when people from the newiest RW appear on the next challenge, so it's not very different.
You know though that all three shows (RW, AYTO and The Challenge) are owned by MTV. BMP and Lighthearted Entertainment are just the production companies, they just produce and edit the shows for MTV! BMP / LE get paid by MTV for their shows and even the prize money is from MTV (especially the apparence fee). The only thing that BMP/ LE do not produce and edit are the reunions. So, I don't get why they have no business being there.
They don't belong on the show because they are on some stupid dating show that has nothing to do with the challenge , the real world people are, realworld is challenge related hell even that spring break shit Camila did is more challenge related than ayto.
No that's not right. AYTO being on this challenge is just another semi Fresh Meat thing. That's all there is except that this people were on another show on MTV previously. And in the end MTV got what it want. We're talking about those four (!) AYTO people!
It isn't fresh meat because the fresh meat people were on freshmeat, a season of the challenge specifically made to incorporate new constants. AYTO has nothing to do with the challenge so they shouldn't be here plain and simple.
That's why I wrote SEMI Fresh Meat. You get 4 new/ "experienced" challengers out of 32 instead of 10-12 (out of 20-24) completly new contestants. So just to get your idea, if it would've been Fresh Meat 3 with AYTO people (That might be though the worst possible nightmare for most people of this site), would you have had a problem with that season? We should be thankful that the producers didnt't waste a season with that horrible idea
JJ is still hilarious and looks somewhat fit, Simone is still ratchet and hilarious. I hope Simone fights Jonna, Id like to see that go down.
having Ayto probably one of the worst casting decisions they've made in a long time, they are going to be HORRIBLE and UNBEARABLE.
Fixed it for you
Could you please tell me why do you think that this is already one of the worst casting in a long time and why they are going to be HORRIBLE and UNBEARABLE without even watching one single episode of Battle of the Exes 2 or even the trailer? At least watch the first episode and then write something about this.
I mean the producers did already cause some buzz about them being on this challenge whether it was bad (mostly) or positive (mostly just around the AYTO people), but it was a whole lot of something and honestly with Bananas getting a second imaginary Ex and production allowing him to be on this challenge is far worst in my opinion. Imagine they would've cast Trey / Laura and the other couple that was an alternative? Silence would've cause more buzz then them on this challenge and I don't think Darrell/Rachel would be a good "TV/drama" team for an Exes season, they get along just too good with eachother. And those that still using the former name of this show and an contra-argument for NOAYTO that whole argument is basically nothing to me since it ended when Road Rules got canceled, Fresh Meat was filmed and MTV owning the rights now. And don't say that we might see Teen Moms on the next challenge. It's ridiculous since there are total different show while one isn't a competition show and they other just show the flaws of being a far too young mom.
In my opinion they just wanted to create some buzz for the first couple of episodes since it's usually the rookies (with basically no name) that get send in and the vets being too afraid to make early moves and having AYTO people there just creates another storyline, another twist and most importantly more drama without even doing too much.
Everybody was saying this same shit when it came to AYTO ("its a totally different show") & now look...
Stop! AYTO and The Challenge are not different. They both have a large prize money, they both have daily challenges. They both are reality competition shows!
JJ is still hilarious and looks somewhat fit, Simone is still ratchet and hilarious. I hope Simone fights Jonna, Id like to see that go down.
having Ayto probably one of the worst casting decisions they've made in a long time, they are going to be HORRIBLE and UNBEARABLE.
Fixed it for you
Could you please tell me why do you think that this is already one of the worst casting in a long time and why they are going to be HORRIBLE and UNBEARABLE without even watching one single episode of Battle of the Exes 2 or even the trailer? At least watch the first episode and then write something about this.
I mean the producers did already cause some buzz about them being on this challenge whether it was bad (mostly) or positive (mostly just around the AYTO people), but it was a whole lot of something and honestly with Bananas getting a second imaginary Ex and production allowing him to be on this challenge is far worst in my opinion. Imagine they would've cast Trey / Laura and the other couple that was an alternative? Silence would've cause more buzz then them on this challenge and I don't think Darrell/Rachel would be a good "TV/drama" team for an Exes season, they get along just too good with eachother.
In my opinion they just wanted to create some buzz for the first couple of episodes since it's usually the rookies (with basically no name) that get send in and the vets being too afraid to make early moves and having AYTO people there just creates another storyline, another twist and most importantly more drama without even doing too much.
Bananas at least belongs on the show, he isn't some random person from some stupid dating show most challenge fans have barely even heard of. They have no business being there because ayto isn't even owned the the same company.
OMG! But this season is called "BATTLE OF THE EXES 2" for god's sakes! I mean if nobody (viewer) knows why Bananas and Nany are considered exes, it's a far more stupid casting choice than people that we know have some history and apparently a lot of people do know them if they know where they're coming from. Most people on social media are like "Why are the people for AYTO on this challenge?" and not "Who are these people?" that a huge difference! Most people I know (even on this site), don't watch the Real World anymore and for them there're just new people from this other show (Whether it's RW or AYTO doesn't matter) Just google "Are you the One?" and bam you know it, they already do it when people from the newiest RW appear on the next challenge, so it's not very different.
You know though that all three shows (RW, AYTO and The Challenge) are owned by MTV. BMP and Lighthearted Entertainment are just the production companies, they just produce and edit the shows for MTV! BMP / LE get paid by MTV for their shows and even the prize money is from MTV (especially the apparence fee). The only thing that BMP/ LE do not produce and edit are the reunions. So, I don't get why they have no business being there.
They don't belong on the show because they are on some stupid dating show that has nothing to do with the challenge , the real world people are, realworld is challenge related hell even that spring break shit Camila did is more challenge related than ayto.
No that's not right. AYTO being on this challenge is just another semi Fresh Meat thing. That's all there is except that this people were on another show on MTV previously. And in the end MTV got what it want. We're talking about those four (!) AYTO people!
It isn't fresh meat because the fresh meat people were on freshmeat, a season of the challenge specifically made to incorporate new constants. AYTO has nothing to do with the challenge so they shouldn't be here plain and simple.
That's why I wrote SEMI Fresh Meat. You get 4 new/ "experienced" challengers out of 32 instead of 10-12 (out of 20-24) completly new contestants. So just to get your idea, if it would've been Fresh Meat 3 with AYTO people (That might be though the worst possible nightmare for most people of this site), would you have had a problem with that season? We should be thankful that the producers didnt't waste a season with that horrible idea
You're missing my point, I don't want them all the challenge because they are ayto people period. I was saying the reason fresh meat is better is because they weren't on some stupid unrelated show.
Theresa looked gorgeous in that AYTO video! I would have rather Wes been with Johanna or Kellyanne but I'm really liking the Wes/Theresa pairing and their dynamic as a team.
I'm so salty neither Banany or Wes/Theresa made the finals.
I admit, when I heard Shelby from AYTO S2 had dreamed about getting on The Challenge, I felt like seeing her in that enviornment wouldn't be too bad. I mean, she was said to have wanted it pretty badly, and that kinda crushed me because I despise AYTO being on the Challenge and she, unfortunately, did not get onto the Real World, and for her to make an appearance on The Challenge would be a huge thing for her.
I'd have preferred Shelby over Madison tbh. Madison has such an annoying voice, I'm going to get a headache from just hearing her utter one word.
Still, I'm not going to completely change my mind here. AYTO is another planet. I refuse to think it'll be like a Fresh Meat 3. I refuse to really give in to all the petty arguments about how they're on the same network so they should be included too, but lets remember, FM was hosted as a Challenge season, I dunno where they got the idea for SBC, but Camila is really the only one who got casted from that, and AGAIN, hosted by people from the Challenge.
AYTO has NOTHING to do with The Challenge. Please stop asking people who are against it to get over it. It's annoying, and it's all over the site, and I doubt you'll get a lot of success in having people shut their mouthes about it.
Stop what? This entire board was down a few posters' throats when the Fresh Meat debates were made. It was said that the same ones who chastise others for not liking the FM when they KNOW they would hate it if any other show came on board. People were like "that's absurd. The shows are made from different companies, the shows have different premises, etc."
Fast forward to now & what do we have. IMO they probably won't do it, judging from the backlash that even the casuals have for it, but the AYTO being on show opens the door for ANYBODY to be on if they choose.
I believe some people already cleared that with different companies and different premises even five months ago, but people were just keeping only that argument against them. They're different and a dating show while they forgot that AYTO uses similar things on the shows (Daily challenges, same casting pool, same people like on the RW, same game-thinking style on the show for a prize money) and after Ex-Plosion you could almost say that most of the recent storylines on this past Real Worlds were about love with another cast member aka dating. Skeletons hopefully put an end to that. So to me, Real World became also like a dating show.
I said stop, because of what you were saying that anybody can come to do this challenge now, because I'm not sure on that. The cast members on almost every other show on MTV have bigger contract fees than the actual first place prize money on the Challenge. So, MTV won't use those people. MTV just used AYTO people, because Exes fits so good with AYTO and AYTO being almost exactly like a mix of the Challenge and the Real World and to me that's a great idea. Sure, they will not do a AYTO vs. RR thing, but I think overall 10 people from both seasons would be good casting additions for the next challenges, far better than some people on the recent Real Worlds. I mean, do you really think that somebody who was quiet/ almost non-existent on his / her Real World season would a good casting addition for a challenge?
I mean no one knows if their personality on the RW would be the same on the challenges. Katie was pretty mellow on her RR season, try to say that now after seeing her 9 challenges lol. JD was the opposite, showed out on his RW season & became invisible on the challenges.
As for more AYTO people they ALL need to be from the first season, which was much better & had a more memorable cast. That second cast shouldn't get shit, they need to prepare to move on with life.
I admit, when I heard Shelby from AYTO S2 had dreamed about getting on The Challenge, I felt like seeing her in that enviornment wouldn't be too bad. I mean, she was said to have wanted it pretty badly, and that kinda crushed me because I despise AYTO being on the Challenge and she, unfortunately, did not get onto the Real World, and for her to make an appearance on The Challenge would be a huge thing for her.
I'd have preferred Shelby over Madison tbh. Madison has such an annoying voice, I'm going to get a headache from just hearing her utter one word.
Still, I'm not going to completely change my mind here. AYTO is another planet. I refuse to think it'll be like a Fresh Meat 3. I refuse to really give in to all the petty arguments about how they're on the same network so they should be included too, but lets remember, FM was hosted as a Challenge season, I dunno where they got the idea for SBC, but Camila is really the only one who got casted from that, and AGAIN, hosted by people from the Challenge.
AYTO has NOTHING to do with The Challenge. Please stop asking people who are against it to get over it. It's annoying, and it's all over the site, and I doubt you'll get a lot of success in having people shut their mouthes about it.
It's just as annoying as reading the stuff "How they shouldn't be here, because it's not their show"BS, without even seing one episode of it and that's is all over the site, and honestly it's always just the same stupid argument which to me is really sad and if people just refuse to accept some changes about the challenge, you can already quit on keeping the discussion side of this site alive, because the discussions would get nowhere and the show would get nowhere too if BMP/MTV would keep the same concepts/same people/same drama. The concept of the challenge in the old days just wouldn't work nowadays. You need to get the attention of the viewes/media and as a producer to get the attention of the viewers, you need to change. Those changes were like throwing the Rivals / Exes concepts or Skeletons / Explosion concepts and even throwing AYTO people in, will get your attention. Sure, you have to wait whether it was a good or a bad idea, but the key is the waiting. So, that's why I'm annoyed about the people already burning this idea of AYTO being on the challenge.
@Challenge17, sorry those quotes got far to long to keep on track.
I guarantee you, ten out of ten times, a Fresh Meat with just AYTO people would better. Rating-wise, drama-wise, plus the veterans wouldn't get too much of airtime (which was the main flaw in last one) and it would not be a big of a risk as a "normal" Fresh Meat.
Stop what? This entire board was down a few posters' throats when the Fresh Meat debates were made. It was said that the same ones who chastise others for not liking the FM when they KNOW they would hate it if any other show came on board. People were like "that's absurd. The shows are made from different companies, the shows have different premises, etc."
Fast forward to now & what do we have. IMO they probably won't do it, judging from the backlash that even the casuals have for it, but the AYTO being on show opens the door for ANYBODY to be on if they choose.
I believe some people already cleared that with different companies and different premises even five months ago, but people were just keeping only that argument against them. They're different and a dating show while they forgot that AYTO uses similar things on the shows (Daily challenges, same casting pool, same people like on the RW, same game-thinking style on the show for a prize money) and after Ex-Plosion you could almost say that most of the recent storylines on this past Real Worlds were about love with another cast member aka dating. Skeletons hopefully put an end to that. So to me, Real World became also like a dating show.
I said stop, because of what you were saying that anybody can come to do this challenge now, because I'm not sure on that. The cast members on almost every other show on MTV have bigger contract fees than the actual first place prize money on the Challenge. So, MTV won't use those people. MTV just used AYTO people, because Exes fits so good with AYTO and AYTO being almost exactly like a mix of the Challenge and the Real World and to me that's a great idea. Sure, they will not do a AYTO vs. RR thing, but I think overall 10 people from both seasons would be good casting additions for the next challenges, far better than some people on the recent Real Worlds. I mean, do you really think that somebody who was quiet/ almost non-existent on his / her Real World season would a good casting addition for a challenge?
I mean no one knows if their personality on the RW would be the same on the challenges. Katie was pretty mellow on her RR season, try to say that now after seeing her 9 challenges lol. JD was the opposite, showed out on his RW season & became invisible on the challenges.
As for more AYTO people they ALL need to be from the first season, which was much better & had more a more memorable cast. That second cast shouldn't get shit, they need to prepare to move on with life.
That's exactly my point though. You never know and that's why you have to wait and see! Thanks ! I can see at least four people of the second season being considered for a challenge though.
I admit, when I heard Shelby from AYTO S2 had dreamed about getting on The Challenge, I felt like seeing her in that enviornment wouldn't be too bad. I mean, she was said to have wanted it pretty badly, and that kinda crushed me because I despise AYTO being on the Challenge and she, unfortunately, did not get onto the Real World, and for her to make an appearance on The Challenge would be a huge thing for her.
I'd have preferred Shelby over Madison tbh. Madison has such an annoying voice, I'm going to get a headache from just hearing her utter one word.
Still, I'm not going to completely change my mind here. AYTO is another planet. I refuse to think it'll be like a Fresh Meat 3. I refuse to really give in to all the petty arguments about how they're on the same network so they should be included too, but lets remember, FM was hosted as a Challenge season, I dunno where they got the idea for SBC, but Camila is really the only one who got casted from that, and AGAIN, hosted by people from the Challenge.
AYTO has NOTHING to do with The Challenge. Please stop asking people who are against it to get over it. It's annoying, and it's all over the site, and I doubt you'll get a lot of success in having people shut their mouthes about it.
The thing about Madison is that her story fit perfectly for the real world theme and I will say that atlest by the end of this real world season...People are going to like her based on her story, that I personally think Real World have been lacking since vegas 2 and it's someone that grow from her experience after exposing her demons.
Shelby based from her bio of mTV pretty much had a normal life other than being the daughter of same sex marriage.
I mean I see both sides of it. I can see why some are all for it & I can see why some are saying hell no. Personally I don't have an issue with the SEASON ONE cast of ayto but at the same time they need to start bringing people from the inner circle of RW/RR & I guess Fresh Meat 2 who want to do more or haven't had the chance to come on to prove themselves.
Season 2 of AYTO is wack & parched as hell to be on TV. I don't think ratings make or break a season but AYTO 2 was trash & it seems like casual viewers agreed (for once). The majority of them seem to have no depth, no smarts, nothing but a "we're all hot lets **** each other" vibe. I don't think anyone from Fresh Meat 1 wants to come back but they can also stay exactly wherever they are (unless its some that haven't done one since that season).
I've never really watched AYTO season one but season two is full of morons so I would not like to see them. However, I will say that they are in the same pool as Fresh Meat despite what anyone says. They both consist of Real World rejects who wanted to be on TV and decided to do the next best thing close to The Real World. In my opinion it would make the most sense to pull up some old faces from The Real World alumni rather than bring in new people though.
So over people aruging about this ATYO shit of them being on the challenge. I didn't like it at first but I grew to accept it. Lets just see how they are on this season.
The AYTO cast are just annoying Af!!, not so much Season one but overall Season two. They gave me a ****** headache with all of the dramatic antics & cocky personalities. I would just give up if they got casted for the future Challenges...
What's funny about this is that we had months to fume about this and now we're acting like we just found this information. What's done is done guys lol.
So over people aruging about this ATYO shit of them being on the challenge. I didn't like it at first but I grew to accept it. Lets just see how they are on this season.
I dont have a problem with the 4 of this season and mostly season 1, I think they are interesting...I am dying to see Shanley/Kayla again.
My main problem is the ones of season 2! How cocky and entitled they are when it comes to the challenge. They literally are begging for an spinoff the self proclaimed goon squad want a snooki/Jwow type of show and think they are celebrities. Especially for a show that overall did bad.
So over people aruging about this ATYO shit of them being on the challenge. I didn't like it at first but I grew to accept it. Lets just see how they are on this season.
I've always been against the idea. Idc how they act on the season I'll still think they don't belong
So over people aruging about this ATYO shit of them being on the challenge. I didn't like it at first but I grew to accept it. Lets just see how they are on this season.
I hated it at first, but JJ & Simone are everything to me now.
It's just as annoying as reading the stuff "How they shouldn't be here, because it's not their show"BS, without even seing one episode of it and that's is all over the site, and honestly it's always just the same stupid argument which to me is really sad and if people just refuse to accept some changes about the challenge, you can already quit on keeping the discussion side of this site alive, because the discussions would get nowhere and the show would get nowhere too if BMP/MTV would keep the same concepts/same people/same drama. The concept of the challenge in the old days just wouldn't work nowadays. You need to get the attention of the viewes/media and as a producer to get the attention of the viewers, you need to change. Those changes were like throwing the Rivals / Exes concepts or Skeletons / Explosion concepts and even throwing AYTO people in, will get your attention. Sure, you have to wait whether it was a good or a bad idea, but the key is the waiting. So, that's why I'm annoyed about the people already burning this idea of AYTO being on the challenge.
@Challenge17, sorry those quotes got far to long to keep on track.
I guarantee you, ten out of ten times, a Fresh Meat with just AYTO people would better. Rating-wise, drama-wise, plus the veterans wouldn't get too much of airtime (which was the main flaw in last one) and it would not be a big of a risk as a "normal" Fresh Meat.
That's completely different than telling us to shut up about it.
Rivals/Exes are themes to The Challenge. Skeletons/Ex-Plosion were all little twists to RW.
How is AYTO a theme to the Challenge? Other than the fact they've been on a dating show and most of the people they wanted were either someone who weren't their match, or someone who weren't interested in them. I've watched BOTH seasons, so I'm not ignorant to the presence of JJ, Simone, Adam and Brittany. You can say AYTO is a twist to BOTExes II, but it SEEMED more of a snap decision, and because they couldn't find the right people. I prefer Trey/Laura, Eric/Sahar (please continue throwing rocks at me for this, I hardly care anymore.) or some other couple.
a Fresh Meat brought random people to the show, who haven't been on an MTV show (correct me if I'm wrong), and are supposed to make a mold on the show like the previous FMers. AYTO had their chance with that. Let them stay over there where they belong.
The thing about Madison is that her story fit perfectly for the real world theme and I will say that atlest by the end of this real world season...People are going to like her based on her story, that I personally think Real World have been lacking since vegas 2 and it's someone that grow from her experience after exposing her demons.
Shelby based from her bio of mTV pretty much had a normal life other than being the daughter of same sex marriage.
Fair enough. I understand if she wasn't enough for Skeletons, but Shelby couldn't be bad enough for another RW season.
What's funny about this is that we had months to fume about this and now we're acting like we just found this information. What's done is done guys lol.
I believe some people already cleared that with different companies and different premises even five months ago, but people were just keeping only that argument against them. They're different and a dating show while they forgot that AYTO uses similar things on the shows (Daily challenges, same casting pool, same people like on the RW, same game-thinking style on the show for a prize money) and after Ex-Plosion you could almost say that most of the recent storylines on this past Real Worlds were about love with another cast member aka dating. Skeletons hopefully put an end to that. So to me, Real World became also like a dating show.
I said stop, because of what you were saying that anybody can come to do this challenge now, because I'm not sure on that. The cast members on almost every other show on MTV have bigger contract fees than the actual first place prize money on the Challenge. So, MTV won't use those people. MTV just used AYTO people, because Exes fits so good with AYTO and AYTO being almost exactly like a mix of the Challenge and the Real World and to me that's a great idea. Sure, they will not do a AYTO vs. RR thing, but I think overall 10 people from both seasons would be good casting additions for the next challenges, far better than some people on the recent Real Worlds. I mean, do you really think that somebody who was quiet/ almost non-existent on his / her Real World season would a good casting addition for a challenge?
It isn't fresh meat because the fresh meat people were on freshmeat, a season of the challenge specifically made to incorporate new constants. AYTO has nothing to do with the challenge so they shouldn't be here plain and simple.
The point they are making is that Fresh Meat and AYTO were cast out of Real World rejects. I find AYTO to be annoying but these people are the exact ones you would see had there been a Fresh Meat 3.
And if they were on a freshmeat 3 I'd be fine with seeing them on the challenge.
That's why I wrote SEMI Fresh Meat. You get 4 new/ "experienced" challengers out of 32 instead of 10-12 (out of 20-24) completly new contestants. So just to get your idea, if it would've been Fresh Meat 3 with AYTO people (That might be though the worst possible nightmare for most people of this site), would you have had a problem with that season? We should be thankful that the producers didnt't waste a season with that horrible idea
Don't mind me, just climbing this quote wall!
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You're missing my point, I don't want them all the challenge because they are ayto people period. I was saying the reason fresh meat is better is because they weren't on some stupid unrelated show.
Theresa looked gorgeous in that AYTO video! I would have rather Wes been with Johanna or Kellyanne but I'm really liking the Wes/Theresa pairing and their dynamic as a team.
I'm so salty neither Banany or Wes/Theresa made the finals.
I admit, when I heard Shelby from AYTO S2 had dreamed about getting on The Challenge, I felt like seeing her in that enviornment wouldn't be too bad. I mean, she was said to have wanted it pretty badly, and that kinda crushed me because I despise AYTO being on the Challenge and she, unfortunately, did not get onto the Real World, and for her to make an appearance on The Challenge would be a huge thing for her.
I'd have preferred Shelby over Madison tbh. Madison has such an annoying voice, I'm going to get a headache from just hearing her utter one word.
Still, I'm not going to completely change my mind here. AYTO is another planet. I refuse to think it'll be like a Fresh Meat 3. I refuse to really give in to all the petty arguments about how they're on the same network so they should be included too, but lets remember, FM was hosted as a Challenge season, I dunno where they got the idea for SBC, but Camila is really the only one who got casted from that, and AGAIN, hosted by people from the Challenge.
AYTO has NOTHING to do with The Challenge. Please stop asking people who are against it to get over it. It's annoying, and it's all over the site, and I doubt you'll get a lot of success in having people shut their mouthes about it.
I mean no one knows if their personality on the RW would be the same on the challenges. Katie was pretty mellow on her RR season, try to say that now after seeing her 9 challenges lol. JD was the opposite, showed out on his RW season & became invisible on the challenges.
As for more AYTO people they ALL need to be from the first season, which was much better & had a more memorable cast. That second cast shouldn't get shit, they need to prepare to move on with life.
It's just as annoying as reading the stuff "How they shouldn't be here, because it's not their show"BS, without even seing one episode of it and that's is all over the site, and honestly it's always just the same stupid argument which to me is really sad and if people just refuse to accept some changes about the challenge, you can already quit on keeping the discussion side of this site alive, because the discussions would get nowhere and the show would get nowhere too if BMP/MTV would keep the same concepts/same people/same drama. The concept of the challenge in the old days just wouldn't work nowadays. You need to get the attention of the viewes/media and as a producer to get the attention of the viewers, you need to change. Those changes were like throwing the Rivals / Exes concepts or Skeletons / Explosion concepts and even throwing AYTO people in, will get your attention. Sure, you have to wait whether it was a good or a bad idea, but the key is the waiting. So, that's why I'm annoyed about the people already burning this idea of AYTO being on the challenge.
@Challenge17, sorry those quotes got far to long to keep on track.
I guarantee you, ten out of ten times, a Fresh Meat with just AYTO people would better. Rating-wise, drama-wise, plus the veterans wouldn't get too much of airtime (which was the main flaw in last one) and it would not be a big of a risk as a "normal" Fresh Meat.
That's exactly my point though. You never know and that's why you have to wait and see! Thanks ! I can see at least four people of the second season being considered for a challenge though.
I can't do anything but laugh at all the shit talking towards AYTO. It's comical.
Why wouldn't there be shit towards it its a stupid dating show.
The thing about Madison is that her story fit perfectly for the real world theme and I will say that atlest by the end of this real world season...People are going to like her based on her story, that I personally think Real World have been lacking since vegas 2 and it's someone that grow from her experience after exposing her demons.
Shelby based from her bio of mTV pretty much had a normal life other than being the daughter of same sex marriage.
I mean I see both sides of it. I can see why some are all for it & I can see why some are saying hell no. Personally I don't have an issue with the SEASON ONE cast of ayto but at the same time they need to start bringing people from the inner circle of RW/RR & I guess Fresh Meat 2 who want to do more or haven't had the chance to come on to prove themselves.
Season 2 of AYTO is wack & parched as hell to be on TV. I don't think ratings make or break a season but AYTO 2 was trash & it seems like casual viewers agreed (for once). The majority of them seem to have no depth, no smarts, nothing but a "we're all hot lets **** each other" vibe. I don't think anyone from Fresh Meat 1 wants to come back but they can also stay exactly wherever they are (unless its some that haven't done one since that season).
I've never really watched AYTO season one but season two is full of morons so I would not like to see them. However, I will say that they are in the same pool as Fresh Meat despite what anyone says. They both consist of Real World rejects who wanted to be on TV and decided to do the next best thing close to The Real World. In my opinion it would make the most sense to pull up some old faces from The Real World alumni rather than bring in new people though.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
OOPS my bad.
So over people aruging about this ATYO shit of them being on the challenge. I didn't like it at first but I grew to accept it. Lets just see how they are on this season.
The AYTO cast are just annoying Af!!, not so much Season one but overall Season two. They gave me a ****** headache with all of the dramatic antics & cocky personalities. I would just give up if they got casted for the future Challenges...
What's funny about this is that we had months to fume about this and now we're acting like we just found this information. What's done is done guys lol.
I dont have a problem with the 4 of this season and mostly season 1, I think they are interesting...I am dying to see Shanley/Kayla again.
My main problem is the ones of season 2! How cocky and entitled they are when it comes to the challenge. They literally are begging for an spinoff the self proclaimed goon squad want a snooki/Jwow type of show and think they are celebrities. Especially for a show that overall did bad.
Who wants a spin off? Let me guess, Layton?
I've always been against the idea. Idc how they act on the season I'll still think they don't belong
LMAO I would love to know how much his cast get paid for bookings if they are getting booked at all.
Layton "Big Country" and the self proclaimed goon squad...They are losers.
I hated it at first, but JJ & Simone are everything to me now.
That's completely different than telling us to shut up about it.
Rivals/Exes are themes to The Challenge. Skeletons/Ex-Plosion were all little twists to RW.
How is AYTO a theme to the Challenge? Other than the fact they've been on a dating show and most of the people they wanted were either someone who weren't their match, or someone who weren't interested in them. I've watched BOTH seasons, so I'm not ignorant to the presence of JJ, Simone, Adam and Brittany. You can say AYTO is a twist to BOTExes II, but it SEEMED more of a snap decision, and because they couldn't find the right people. I prefer Trey/Laura, Eric/Sahar (please continue throwing rocks at me for this, I hardly care anymore.) or some other couple.
a Fresh Meat brought random people to the show, who haven't been on an MTV show (correct me if I'm wrong), and are supposed to make a mold on the show like the previous FMers. AYTO had their chance with that. Let them stay over there where they belong.
Fair enough. I understand if she wasn't enough for Skeletons, but Shelby couldn't be bad enough for another RW season.
THANK YOU. lol
who are in this goon squad you speak of.
Ellie, Briana, Jessica and Christina. I could be wrong though.
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