[QUOTE=ishot_JT;156774]I think Newport Harbor was already a tv show, it was a spin off of Laguna Beach.[/QUOTE]
Newport Rhode Island, not Newport Beach California...hence the RI after Newport.
[QUOTE=molds13;156775]Newport Rhode Island, not Newport Beach California...hence the RI after Newport.[/QUOTE]
Thanks molds for the correction.
Asheville is a micro version of Newport, Rhode Island. Vanderbilt money. Old money. That is what I was getting at...
[QUOTE=Bacchus;156777]Thanks molds for the correction.
Asheville is a micro version of Newport, Rhode Island. Vanderbilt money. Old money. That is what I was getting at...[/QUOTE]
But the surrounding judgmental, close minded, hick towns surrounding Ashville mixed with its very hippie liberal culture make it what it is...I'd really like to see them do another type of Outward Bound-esque job again if they ever for some reason did go to Asheville rofl....
[QUOTE=ishot_JT;156779]O I see, I think they would make that part of the housewives if its a wealthy known area[/QUOTE]
Haha...no, there will be no Housewives of Newport.
Funny to think about, but no.
I think they should do New Haven or Hartford if they can find places close enough to house them. New Haven is a huge party city. With some of the best clubs out there. Real World Charlottesville or somewher ein Virginia would be a cool serious season.
Then again think about it, Real World is in eh-eh right now due to tough competition with Jersey Shore and the BCG. I think the next Real World would be a well known city or a in these case someplace that is at the hype at that moment. Or maybe they will go to Vancouver, which is something different. :D
*not hiatus but in tough competition
[QUOTE=ishot_JT;156787] Or maybe they will go to Vancouver, which is something different. [/QUOTE]
They SHOULD have gone to Vancouver this season. Then they'd be there now...But instead we get another repeat city.
[QUOTE=ishot_JT;156787]Then again think about it, Real World is in hiatus right now due to tough competition with Jersey Shore and the BCG. I think the next Real World would be a well known city or a in these case someplace that is at the hype at that moment. Or maybe they will go to Vancouver, which is something different. :D[/QUOTE]
Um...they're not in hiatus at all. They have one season airing and one filming.
Here I have an idea Why not take someone whose trying out for Bad Girls Club who seems a little bit too crazy for the house and who is really over the top and put them on Real World with 7 other "normal" people. I'd really like to see what Natalie from Bad Girls Club 4 would do with a cast like DC.... That would be soooo dramatic
what is up with all the newer seasons having the cast be all specific things...like with d.c. it was people who are politically intune and are interesting in politics, in cancun it was party people, in brooklyn and hollywood it was all people who were trying to get famous from being on the show...Why can't they just cast real people with real lives and realistic goals like they used to...? that would get ratings back up
[QUOTE=mcis1979;157646]what is up with all the newer seasons having the cast be all specific things...like with d.c. it was people who are politically intune and are interesting in politics, in cancun it was party people, in brooklyn and hollywood it was all people who were trying to get famous from being on the show...Why can't they just cast real people with real lives and realistic goals like they used to...? that would get ratings back up[/QUOTE]
Becasue they want them to be "affected by the enviornment and take charge of their passions."
but that is true. in the seasons up until Hollywood, it was like they just picked real people with real issues conflicting with each other and put them together and NOT cast like "Oh she likes politics, hes a republican, shes a democrat, he wants to be in politics. PUT EM TOGETHER!" or " he wants to DJ, she wants to model, she wantes to be on E News, shes a singer, and she wants to be a news caster. we got our cast!"
smh.:no:
I would say guys too. For some reason it seems like girls watch more reality tv but I know more guys that watch the real world AND the challenges. I'll say guys.
[QUOTE=mcis1979;157646]what is up with all the newer seasons having the cast be all specific things...like with d.c. it was people who are politically intune and are interesting in politics, in cancun it was party people, in brooklyn and hollywood it was all people who were trying to get famous from being on the show...Why can't they just cast real people with real lives and realistic goals like they used to...? that would get ratings back up[/QUOTE]
OMG I could not have said it any better.
[QUOTE=InfamousJoks;157657] in the seasons up until Hollywood, it was like they just picked real people with real issues conflicting with each other and put them together and NOT cast like "Oh she likes politics, hes a republican, shes a democrat, he wants to be in politics. PUT EM TOGETHER!"
smh.:no:[/QUOTE]
It seems to me BM or Mtv is trying to sobatoge the RW. Seriously, why would anyone create a show/season geared towards teens and 20 yr olds based on politics or the theme of politics. How many teenagers are interested in politics? What were the producers thinking.
I would like to know did BM get new producers and directors to work on the real world after Sydney?
[QUOTE=OtherPplsDrama;156788]They SHOULD have gone to Vancouver this season. Then they'd be there now...But instead we get another repeat city.[/QUOTE]
I was firmly in support of Vancouver for RW24, but I think New Orleans is going to have some surprises. I mean, they will be apart of the SuperBowl Parties, rebuilding after Katrina, and have some heavy racial classes on this season.
I don't think they'll go to Vancouver for RW25 -- they may go to Toronto or Montreal though. They also may go to Amsterdam.
Does anyone know when RW24 and RW25 will air? And why haven't we seen any casting calls for RW25 yet? RW23's casting calls began early Feb last year...do you think this means they are retooling their strategy for that season?
I really think that RW expected DC's ratings to go through the roof. And they never expected Jersey Shore to be the hit that it is...so I imagine they are trying to figure out something to do in the next 2 seasons that will get their ratings up.
[QUOTE=mcis1979;154453]Heres what I think should go down:
25: Vancouver
26: Houston
27: Cleavland
28: Boulder
29: Orlando
30: Back To San Francisco
31: Amsterdam
32: Atlanta
33: Back To Las Vegas
34: Tokyo
35: Phoenix
36: Portland
37: Minneapolis
38: Dallas
39: Jersey Shore
40: Back To London (with an all american cast)
41: Toronto
42: Milwaukee
43: Charlotte
44: Aspen
45: Back To Hawaii[/QUOTE]
At this point, it's about getting their contract renewed. What BMP needs to do is select a city that MOST APPEALS to its target demographic AND that will generate publicity. So let's look at this logically like the people at BMP SHOULD BE DOING. First, they need to look at which cities are popular with Americans youth and for what reasons they are popular.
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The graph above shows US Cities where a majority of people (ages 23 to 28) are moving. Or check out this link too (it has more updated info): [url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703787204574442912720525316.html]The Next Hot Youth-Magnet Cities - WSJ.com[/url]
In order to be a great host location, they should look at a combination of the following facts:
1. culture
2. urban development
3. appeal to youth
4. uniqueness
5. local government restrictions
6. weather
7. etc etc
For easy marketing purposes, they should pick places that will market themselves easily. Of the places on the chart's Top 10 Phoenix, Atlanta, Riverside, Dallas, Houston, Portland, and Tampa are the largest. They've been to Seattle and Austin. Charlotte is a great city with a ton of development going on right now and is cooler than people expect but is still a little small to generate a buzz.
Now there are some other cities that would be great depending on the cast they select: Nashville, Charleston, Savannah, Tampa, Orlando, and Fort Lauderdale.
Now internationally -- they need to look for cities where the cast can do things they could not do in the US. So Toronto, Montreal, Amsterdam, Vancouver, and Rome probably have the best name recognition amongst American's youth.
Lots of information above, but let me simplify. Given the Real World contract is in jeperody here, BMP should select on the conservative side and pick cities they KNOW for fact will get attention with the MTV's audience. So here's where they SHOULD go for ratings purposes:
Amsterdam, Toronto, Atlanta, Portland, Pheonix
If I were a BMP exec, I would suggest RW25 in Amsterdam, and RW26 in Atlanta. That's the best they can do right now; those cities will appeal to youth and they can EASILY cast interesting backgrounds for those seasons. If they get a contract extended, then they could do some of the following
25: Amsterdam
26: Atlanta
27: Portland
28: Orlando/Nashville
29: Houston/Dallas
30: Back to San Fran
Someone at BMP is bound to be crunching numbers and looking at this type of data. We'll just have to wait and see.
To follow-up:
There are few things that are important to a good season:
1. Good location
2. Good stories
3. Rememberable people
And to support the above, BMP needs:
1. Good editing of season (no down time in story)
2. Good marketing (instant buzz)
I think we all agree that DC was a great location. The stories have been so-so minus Mike's and the cast has been unique but not necessarily rememberable. And yes, there is a difference between unique and rememberable.
The Brooklyn cast was unique and memorable, Ayiiia would have shined on different season, and Mike would have been good on a season like Brooklyn.
I don't know, it seems as if they keep casting unlikeable castmembers and it was never really like that. I mean, we all have our cast members that we can't stand but these past couple of years, people have taken the show so seriously that they wish death on the cast members. No one is redeemable anymore, you like who you like.
BTW, Anyone else notice that the boys vs. girls in the house again on DC? (besides Mike of course)
Honestly I feel Jasmine, Ayiiia, Callie, Josh and Mike could be good characters in other seasons I could anyone one of them in Hollywood or Brooklyn (well only Callie or Mike) but the thing is I can't see anyone else from Cancun or DC really being on another season. I'd rather have them not do themed seasons just have it mixed cause it causes more story lines like Sarah from Hollywood was a more serious girl mixed with Brianna was a good match. I think the show was better with seven. Honestly Every Season since Brooklyn has been boys vs girls.
[QUOTE=Npresh24;158697]Honestly I feel Jasmine, Ayiiia, Callie, Josh and Mike could be good characters in other seasons I could anyone one of them in Hollywood or Brooklyn (well only Callie or Mike) but the thing is I can't see anyone else from Cancun or DC really being on another season. I'd rather have them not do themed seasons just have it mixed cause it causes more story lines like Sarah from Hollywood was a more serious girl mixed with Brianna was a good match. I think the show was better with seven. Honestly Every Season since Brooklyn has been boys vs girls.[/QUOTE]
I don't have a problem with the themed seasons. I just wish they would pack more into an episode.
I also think being a little more aggressive with casting would help. It's like they are so focused on the collective cast that they don't put people who are memorable on there. That's what is missing today that they had nailed down when the show first started.
Even on Sydney it was boys and girls though...kind of like the boys& parisa vs. the girls if you noticed.
Callie is a sweet girl, bless her heart but shes boring. If Mike wasn't ******** or gay, I don't think he would have been casted. Emily, Ashley, Ty, and Andrew are def. your typical RW cast members. I'm not gonna say anything about Josh out of respect for his girlfriend (because i love her!), but Erika, yeah shes boring. If her fake cancer storyline didn't come out no one would really care about her either.
IMO, Cancun was kind of like the nail in the coffin for me, but DC was getting so hyped up I thought it would be amazing. And some parts of it is good, but it just doesn't have that high level of interest I had with Hollywood, Brooklyn, and every season that I seen before Denver (I hated Denver and Sydney, Austin was meh).
[QUOTE=CannotTellU;158683]
If I were a BMP exec, I would suggest RW25 in Amsterdam, and RW26 in Atlanta. That's the best they can do right now; those cities will appeal to youth and they can EASILY cast interesting backgrounds for those seasons. If they get a contract extended, then they could do some of the following
25: Amsterdam
26: Atlanta
27: Portland
28: Orlando/Nashville
29: Houston/Dallas
30: Back to San Fran
Someone at BMP is bound to be crunching numbers and looking at this type of data. We'll just have to wait and see.[/QUOTE]
****, I was hoping Atlanta. Phoenix, Tokyo, Montreal, Minneapolis would've been higher priority.
[QUOTE=CannotTellU;158701]I don't have a problem with the themed seasons. I just wish they would pack more into an episode.
[/QUOTE]
More like how? If its thrown in there like when Callie's brother visited then I don't know.
[QUOTE=CannotTellU;158701]I don't have a problem with the themed seasons. I just wish they would pack more into an episode.
I also think being a little more aggressive with casting would help. It's like they are so focused on the collective cast that they don't put people who are memorable on there. That's what is missing today that they had nailed down when the show first started.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree They need to go back to 30 min because that seemed the best for the show and challanges.I mean my promblem is not with the themed but the type of people like you don't need 8 'serious tpe people you can throw in some 1/2 party people with a nice back story like if DC had Ayiia,Callie,Jasmine and Ashley with Mike,Andrew,Josh and Bronne it would be a perfect balance and Im saying that with any combination of the cast.
Amersterdam And Atlanta are def. 2 seasons that would bring alot of hype to the show...all teens in middle america would watch the amsterdam season because teenagers love smoking weed and thats all there is to do in most small towns. Altanta would bring alot of hype because its the last worldly famous American city next to Phoenix they havn't used and it has a really unique culture to it.
But yeah 30 mins. and 7 strangers is what needs to be brought back! boys vs. girls is getting so old, 7 strangers also made more room for the possibility of an outcast to be brought in which did create alot of interesting drama to alot of the past seasons.
Also every seasons since Brooklyn (when they changed it to 8 roomates) there's always that one roommate that sinks into the background and is probably too nice to be on the Real World, and the only story lines revolving around them are dumb and not as entertaining as others.
21: Baya (who?)
22: Derek (a gay cast member in Cancun really???)
23: Emily (BORING!!)
30 Minute episodes would be perfect. You get to know the characters over a long amount of time and it makes time for much more storylines like each character can get 5 or 6 different stories ina season. Plus with a half hour episode you always want more I realized.
[QUOTE=andrewsz1991;158718]30 Minute episodes would be perfect. You get to know the characters over a long amount of time and it makes time for much more storylines like each character can get 5 or 6 different stories ina season. Plus with a half hour episode you always want more I realized.[/QUOTE]
I think the 1 hour shows are fine for multi-season casts, but it's tough to do 1 hour shows when you just have a cast for 13 episodes. So I agree with you.
I do think there are things they can do to make the 1 hour work -- firstly, they need to learn to edit better and make the episodes more jam-packed...and they may also need to film longer in order to get more footage and more drama. And if I'm going to sit and watch someone for an hour then they better be amazing and rememberable.
30 minute episode seasons are no different that 1 hour episode seasons. If they want the 1 hour format to work, they need to increase the episode count to 16. 16 weeks is a good amount of time to get the roommate's stories heard. This would also give "wallpaper roommates" like baya a chance to get their story aired.
They also need to have a casting special. That'll hype up viewers for the season. If you think about it, Cancun and DC had no specials whatsoever promoting the seasons. Hollywood and Brooklyn lacked casting specials, but mtv still had specials for both seasons. Hollywood had the 20 year reunion bash and Brooklyn had the Real world Secrets Revealed special. Both of these, in my opinion, hyped up fans and viewers for the upcoming seasons.
Casting special or no casting special, DC had a lot of press, commercials, and was just as hyped up. With over the top shows like Jersey shore, and the trainwreck that is 16 & Pregnant/ Teen Mom, it makes Real World DC look boring. Everyone sitting here convincing themselves anything otherwise needs to accept their defeat. Real World DC is dead.
I do want to see Andrew, Emily, Ashley, Mike, and Callie on challenges. Ty, needs help.
PS. This kind of made me lol but I've been reading random message boards and people are planning to boycott the show if Ty doesn't get kicked off. I didn't think that many people cared to be honest, lol.
And I will say this, I think if Jersey shore hadn't been on, the ratings would have been higher. People were constantly comparing the shows.
I love me some Jersey Shore, but its not better than the throwback seasons of the RW, and I don't prefer it over seasons like Brooklyn and Hollywood, but I do prefer it to the ****** seasons. Does that make sense?
Jersey Shore is a fad, like the Hills and Laguna Beach, it will pass.
I agree that they need to return to 30 minutes shows, which means they can double the time of the season by stretching it out.
I still think Phoenix is one of the best options because of its proximity to Tempe and they could (like many do) proclaim it Phoenix but choose a house in Tempe or barely in Phoenix but have much of their stuff happen in Tempe. Besides with the lightrail running through the middle of northern Tempe and traveling through the center of Phoenix, they could put them in a building in downtown Phoenix but have them ride the lightrail as needed for ASU.
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