I haven't seen Duel 2, The Island, Ruins, or Fresh Meat 2. What was so bad about those seasons?
For me, I've enjoyed every season of this show one reason or another, and of course I enjoyed some seasons more than others. DA made some points to each of these seasons that I do agree with, but I still think you should give them a try. You might enjoy them, you might not. It's a good way to get more insight on some of the castmembers during this time period, especially because a few regulars from this era were new during that time. It's also good to catch up on a bit of history, and they all had their moments.
Johnny and Sarah are such good friends that she was 5th on the totem pole in his gigantic alliance on the first Rivals.
5th out of the entirety of SEVEN teams in the entire game.
The perfect word to sum up Johnny Bananas after this episode: Butthurt.
How would you feel with the high chance of a 6 figure cheque being snatched from you? Who cares about the original rivals? His Castmate, kennys number one and the well connected jenn were priorities , especially since Sarah was tied to Kateyln, also he was probably banging camilla at the time so she obviosuly takes precdent. But that was then
In THIS challenge, Johnny made it clear (e.g episode 3 power couple dinner, his first discussions with sarah and jordan upon rentry) that he would work with them to get them both into the finals with Leeroy, nothing he did varied from this plan, but sarah flipped the script. its a move that can help her win , but it is a dirty move no matter how you slice it.
Exactly. It is a smart move and I understand why she did it but I don't agree with it.
Lets be honest, Johnny would have done the same thing if he won then would tell Sarah to get over it, it's just a game
Theres no indication whatsoever that Johnny would of done this, it goes against all his previous moves in challenges past, he has always been a strong advocate of rookies before ALLIES!!!
also just a game? easy to say when you had no stake in MONEY..... for Johnny he lost potentially/probably a six figure pay day
Johnny's nothing but a sore loser. What a poor example of sportsmanship. He's tarnishing his reputation by acting like such a child.
Want to lose 125 k? i wonder how many people would be a bit upset?
Lets be honest, Johnny would have done the same thing if he won then would tell Sarah to get over it, it's just a game
Theres no indication whatsoever that Johnny would of done this, it goes against all his previous moves in challenges past, he has always been a strong advocate of rookies before ALLIES!!!
also just a game? easy to say when you had no stake in MONEY..... for Johnny he lost potentially/probably a six figure pay day
Lets be honest, Johnny would have done the same thing if he won then would tell Sarah to get over it, it's just a game
Theres no indication whatsoever that Johnny would of done this, it goes against all his previous moves in challenges past, he has always been a strong advocate of rookies before ALLIES!!!
also just a game? easy to say when you had no stake in MONEY..... for Johnny he lost potentially/probably a six figure pay day
Johnny's nothing but a sore loser. What a poor example of sportsmanship. He's tarnishing his reputation by acting like such a child.
Want to lose 125 k? i wonder how many people would be a bit upset?
Lets be honest, Johnny would have done the same thing if he won then would tell Sarah to get over it, it's just a game
Theres no indication whatsoever that Johnny would of done this, it goes against all his previous moves in challenges past, he has always been a strong advocate of rookies before ALLIES!!!
also just a game? easy to say when you had no stake in MONEY..... for Johnny he lost potentially/probably a six figure pay day
Johnny's nothing but a sore loser. What a poor example of sportsmanship. He's tarnishing his reputation by acting like such a child.
Want to lose 125 k? i wonder how many people would be a bit upset?
I meant Johnny would tell Sarah it's just a game don't be upset.
He no doubt would have done the same thing, Johnny isn't a idiot, why would you not want to take a layup to the final. He's way to smart not to do the same thing. Why would it be a smart move to keep the best swimmers, a team that is good at puzzles and has good endurance over a weak team.
Lets be honest, Johnny would have done the same thing if he won then would tell Sarah to get over it, it's just a game
Theres no indication whatsoever that Johnny would of done this, it goes against all his previous moves in challenges past, he has always been a strong advocate of rookies before ALLIES!!!
also just a game? easy to say when you had no stake in MONEY..... for Johnny he lost potentially/probably a six figure pay day
Johnny's nothing but a sore loser. What a poor example of sportsmanship. He's tarnishing his reputation by acting like such a child.
Want to lose 125 k? i wonder how many people would be a bit upset?
I meant Johnny would tell Sarah it's just a game don't be upset. He no doubt would have done the same thing, Johnny isn't a idiot, why would you not want to take a layup to the final. He's way to smart not to do the same thing. Why would it be a smart move to keep the best swimmers, a team that is good at puzzles and has good endurance over a weak team.
Because its a ALLIANCE, the whole part of that deal is you help eachother out. The number one rule of alliance is to never say the other persons name. johnny has never allowed a rookie to go to the finals without earning it.
Lets be honest, Johnny would have done the same thing if he won then would tell Sarah to get over it, it's just a game
Theres no indication whatsoever that Johnny would of done this, it goes against all his previous moves in challenges past, he has always been a strong advocate of rookies before ALLIES!!!
also just a game? easy to say when you had no stake in MONEY..... for Johnny he lost potentially/probably a six figure pay day
Johnny's nothing but a sore loser. What a poor example of sportsmanship. He's tarnishing his reputation by acting like such a child.
Want to lose 125 k? i wonder how many people would be a bit upset?
I meant Johnny would tell Sarah it's just a game don't be upset. He no doubt would have done the same thing, Johnny isn't a idiot, why would you not want to take a layup to the final. He's way to smart not to do the same thing. Why would it be a smart move to keep the best swimmers, a team that is good at puzzles and has good endurance over a weak team.
I really don't think he would've thrown Sarah in. There's even evidence of similar situations in the past on Exes 1 when Dunbar/Paula came in last he could've sent in CT, Mark, or Ty. Paula's better in eliminations than Robin and Diem...especially if it wound up being the same game with the bungee cords...no way Diem or Robin could've handled CT or Mark's size. Johnny passed on throwing 3 good teams in, and gave the team best suited for a final a get out of jail free card with Aneesa and Rachel...a team that, if brought to the finals, guarantees you at least second place money. Could the fact that it wasn't the last elimination play into the fact (because he could've been scared about revenge)? Maybe. But the fact remains that he still threw in a layup team to give his alliance an easy out and not sacrifice his people.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Sarah's move except that she doesn't seem to be willing to acknowledge the shadiness. Not an apology, not a justification just "Yeah, I lied to him". Because she did. She told him at their first power couple dinner "You are my number one, I cannot say your name." She said those words to him. Verbatim. I thought she handled herself the right way on the aftershow before she got into the "we weren't really friends, blah blah blah" thing. Whether or not that's true is irrelevant and an unnecessary justifcation. She just needs to say, "Look, I lied to Johnny. I lied to Wes. But I wanted to win, and this is what made the most sense to me." and end it there no, "Well, it's okay though because..."
Lets be honest, Johnny would have done the same thing if he won then would tell Sarah to get over it, it's just a game
Theres no indication whatsoever that Johnny would of done this, it goes against all his previous moves in challenges past, he has always been a strong advocate of rookies before ALLIES!!!
also just a game? easy to say when you had no stake in MONEY..... for Johnny he lost potentially/probably a six figure pay day
Johnny's nothing but a sore loser. What a poor example of sportsmanship. He's tarnishing his reputation by acting like such a child.
Want to lose 125 k? i wonder how many people would be a bit upset?
I meant Johnny would tell Sarah it's just a game don't be upset. He no doubt would have done the same thing, Johnny isn't a idiot, why would you not want to take a layup to the final. He's way to smart not to do the same thing. Why would it be a smart move to keep the best swimmers, a team that is good at puzzles and has good endurance over a weak team.
I really don't think he would've thrown Sarah in. There's even evidence of similar situations in the past on Exes 1 when Dunbar/Paula came in last he could've sent in CT, Mark, or Ty. Paula's better in eliminations than Robin and Diem...especially if it wound up being the same game with the bungee cords...no way Diem or Robin could've handled CT or Mark's size. Johnny passed on throwing 3 good teams in, and gave the team best suited for a final a get out of jail free card with Aneesa and Rachel...a team that, if brought to the finals, guarantees you at least second place money. Could the fact that it wasn't the last elimination play into the fact (because he could've been scared about revenge)? Maybe. But the fact remains that he still threw in a layup team to give his alliance an easy out and not sacrifice his people.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Sarah's move except that she doesn't seem to be willing to acknowledge the shadiness. Not an apology, not a justification just "Yeah, I lied to him". Because she did. She told him at their first power couple dinner "You are my number one, I cannot say your name." She said those words to him. Verbatim. I thought she handled herself the right way on the aftershow before she got into the "we weren't really friends, blah blah blah" thing. Whether or not that's true is irrelevant and an unnecessary justifcation. She just needs to say, "Look, I lied to Johnny. I lied to Wes. But I wanted to win, and this is what made the most sense to me." and end it there no, "Well, it's okay though because..."
I love Paula but no way in hell her and Dunbar could take out CT & Diem. Then Johnny would put a huge target on his back.
Lets be honest, Johnny would have done the same thing if he won then would tell Sarah to get over it, it's just a game
Theres no indication whatsoever that Johnny would of done this, it goes against all his previous moves in challenges past, he has always been a strong advocate of rookies before ALLIES!!!
also just a game? easy to say when you had no stake in MONEY..... for Johnny he lost potentially/probably a six figure pay day
Johnny's nothing but a sore loser. What a poor example of sportsmanship. He's tarnishing his reputation by acting like such a child.
Want to lose 125 k? i wonder how many people would be a bit upset?
I meant Johnny would tell Sarah it's just a game don't be upset. He no doubt would have done the same thing, Johnny isn't a idiot, why would you not want to take a layup to the final. He's way to smart not to do the same thing. Why would it be a smart move to keep the best swimmers, a team that is good at puzzles and has good endurance over a weak team.
I really don't think he would've thrown Sarah in. There's even evidence of similar situations in the past on Exes 1 when Dunbar/Paula came in last he could've sent in CT, Mark, or Ty. Paula's better in eliminations than Robin and Diem...especially if it wound up being the same game with the bungee cords...no way Diem or Robin could've handled CT or Mark's size. Johnny passed on throwing 3 good teams in, and gave the team best suited for a final a get out of jail free card with Aneesa and Rachel...a team that, if brought to the finals, guarantees you at least second place money. Could the fact that it wasn't the last elimination play into the fact (because he could've been scared about revenge)? Maybe. But the fact remains that he still threw in a layup team to give his alliance an easy out and not sacrifice his people.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Sarah's move except that she doesn't seem to be willing to acknowledge the shadiness. Not an apology, not a justification just "Yeah, I lied to him". Because she did. She told him at their first power couple dinner "You are my number one, I cannot say your name." She said those words to him. Verbatim. I thought she handled herself the right way on the aftershow before she got into the "we weren't really friends, blah blah blah" thing. Whether or not that's true is irrelevant and an unnecessary justifcation. She just needs to say, "Look, I lied to Johnny. I lied to Wes. But I wanted to win, and this is what made the most sense to me." and end it there no, "Well, it's okay though because..."
Exactly. Bananas has never saved a rookie and thrown in his real friends who he was aligned with. He would have absolutely thrown in Jay/Jenna. Bananas has always been about taking his friends to the finals. He has done it every season he has been on and just fought for first place.
and 100% agreed about the Sarah part. That is so dead on especially the last sentence.
Lets be honest, Johnny would have done the same thing if he won then would tell Sarah to get over it, it's just a game
Theres no indication whatsoever that Johnny would of done this, it goes against all his previous moves in challenges past, he has always been a strong advocate of rookies before ALLIES!!!
also just a game? easy to say when you had no stake in MONEY..... for Johnny he lost potentially/probably a six figure pay day
Johnny's nothing but a sore loser. What a poor example of sportsmanship. He's tarnishing his reputation by acting like such a child.
Want to lose 125 k? i wonder how many people would be a bit upset?
I meant Johnny would tell Sarah it's just a game don't be upset. He no doubt would have done the same thing, Johnny isn't a idiot, why would you not want to take a layup to the final. He's way to smart not to do the same thing. Why would it be a smart move to keep the best swimmers, a team that is good at puzzles and has good endurance over a weak team.
I really don't think he would've thrown Sarah in. There's even evidence of similar situations in the past on Exes 1 when Dunbar/Paula came in last he could've sent in CT, Mark, or Ty. Paula's better in eliminations than Robin and Diem...especially if it wound up being the same game with the bungee cords...no way Diem or Robin could've handled CT or Mark's size. Johnny passed on throwing 3 good teams in, and gave the team best suited for a final a get out of jail free card with Aneesa and Rachel...a team that, if brought to the finals, guarantees you at least second place money. Could the fact that it wasn't the last elimination play into the fact (because he could've been scared about revenge)? Maybe. But the fact remains that he still threw in a layup team to give his alliance an easy out and not sacrifice his people.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Sarah's move except that she doesn't seem to be willing to acknowledge the shadiness. Not an apology, not a justification just "Yeah, I lied to him". Because she did. She told him at their first power couple dinner "You are my number one, I cannot say your name." She said those words to him. Verbatim. I thought she handled herself the right way on the aftershow before she got into the "we weren't really friends, blah blah blah" thing. Whether or not that's true is irrelevant and an unnecessary justifcation. She just needs to say, "Look, I lied to Johnny. I lied to Wes. But I wanted to win, and this is what made the most sense to me." and end it there no, "Well, it's okay though because..."
I love Paula but no way in hell her and Dunbar could take out CT & Diem. Then Johnny would put a huge target on his back.
I think in 9/10 situations you're right. But if they gave them the bungee game? Paula is physically stronger than Diem and is right on her level endurance-wise...and CT might be a little heavier than Dunbar. I think Diem would've had a much more difficult time getting to the stake. I'd also pick Wes over Easy every day of the week...but sometimes you just get a game that the other person/team is better suited for and I think Paula/Dunbar would have a legitimate shot at beating them in that specific game.
The larger point was that in that situation Johnny sacrificed a "lay-up" team, one that could've made his game easier to preserve the people he was aligned with, despite the fact that it made his game more difficult. Even if he didn't want to **** off CT, he could've thrown in Emily and Ty. But he was friends with Paula and friends with Ty and Emily so he didn't.
After watching this Episode I honestly feel like Nia was sent home just so Theresa could face off with Nany , I mean Nia rants was digusting but it was pretty tame compared to some other rants we have seen and whole touching part was exaggerated , I mean she shouldn't have done it but it wasn't a full on grope and linger.
After watching this Episode I honestly feel like Nia was sent home just so Theresa could face off with Nany , I mean Nia rants was digusting but it was pretty tame compared to some other rants we have seen and whole touching part was exaggerated , I mean she shouldn't have done it but it wasn't a full on grope and linger.
I mean they are stricter on "sexual assault" situations now because of the Tonya thing so I think they had to do it and they did warn everyone not to touch anyone else like that but at the same time I do think it was overexaggerating completely.
Lets be honest, Johnny would have done the same thing if he won then would tell Sarah to get over it, it's just a game
Theres no indication whatsoever that Johnny would of done this, it goes against all his previous moves in challenges past, he has always been a strong advocate of rookies before ALLIES!!!
also just a game? easy to say when you had no stake in MONEY..... for Johnny he lost potentially/probably a six figure pay day
Johnny's nothing but a sore loser. What a poor example of sportsmanship. He's tarnishing his reputation by acting like such a child.
Want to lose 125 k? i wonder how many people would be a bit upset?
Listen to JOHNNY'S COMMENTS on past shows--he's a ******* hypocrite
Before anyone complains about me hating Jordan. If he performs well tonight without being unsupportive or trying to set an unnecessary fast pace I plan on giving him all the credit in the world unless Jay/Jenna beat him/Sarah
For me, I've enjoyed every season of this show one reason or another, and of course I enjoyed some seasons more than others. DA made some points to each of these seasons that I do agree with, but I still think you should give them a try. You might enjoy them, you might not. It's a good way to get more insight on some of the castmembers during this time period, especially because a few regulars from this era were new during that time. It's also good to catch up on a bit of history, and they all had their moments.
Exactly. It is a smart move and I understand why she did it but I don't agree with it.
Lets be honest, Johnny would have done the same thing if he won then would tell Sarah to get over it, it's just a game
I don't think so, he has always been about bringing your friends to the final and fighting it out.
Amen. *****************. Preach.
Only because he's usually in a position to do so.
Johnny's nothing but a sore loser. What a poor example of sportsmanship. He's tarnishing his reputation by acting like such a child.
Theres no indication whatsoever that Johnny would of done this, it goes against all his previous moves in challenges past, he has always been a strong advocate of rookies before ALLIES!!!
also just a game? easy to say when you had no stake in MONEY..... for Johnny he lost potentially/probably a six figure pay day
Want to lose 125 k? i wonder how many people would be a bit upset?
Exactly!
He'll likely get to another final. Not so much for Sarah.
She has stated that this was in fact her last challenge, i believe shes getting married soon (which usually is a good indication of done)
I meant Johnny would tell Sarah it's just a game don't be upset.
He no doubt would have done the same thing, Johnny isn't a idiot, why would you not want to take a layup to the final. He's way to smart not to do the same thing. Why would it be a smart move to keep the best swimmers, a team that is good at puzzles and has good endurance over a weak team.
Because its a ALLIANCE, the whole part of that deal is you help eachother out. The number one rule of alliance is to never say the other persons name. johnny has never allowed a rookie to go to the finals without earning it.
I really don't think he would've thrown Sarah in. There's even evidence of similar situations in the past on Exes 1 when Dunbar/Paula came in last he could've sent in CT, Mark, or Ty. Paula's better in eliminations than Robin and Diem...especially if it wound up being the same game with the bungee cords...no way Diem or Robin could've handled CT or Mark's size. Johnny passed on throwing 3 good teams in, and gave the team best suited for a final a get out of jail free card with Aneesa and Rachel...a team that, if brought to the finals, guarantees you at least second place money. Could the fact that it wasn't the last elimination play into the fact (because he could've been scared about revenge)? Maybe. But the fact remains that he still threw in a layup team to give his alliance an easy out and not sacrifice his people.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Sarah's move except that she doesn't seem to be willing to acknowledge the shadiness. Not an apology, not a justification just "Yeah, I lied to him". Because she did. She told him at their first power couple dinner "You are my number one, I cannot say your name." She said those words to him. Verbatim. I thought she handled herself the right way on the aftershow before she got into the "we weren't really friends, blah blah blah" thing. Whether or not that's true is irrelevant and an unnecessary justifcation. She just needs to say, "Look, I lied to Johnny. I lied to Wes. But I wanted to win, and this is what made the most sense to me." and end it there no, "Well, it's okay though because..."
I love Paula but no way in hell her and Dunbar could take out CT & Diem. Then Johnny would put a huge target on his back.
Exactly. Bananas has never saved a rookie and thrown in his real friends who he was aligned with. He would have absolutely thrown in Jay/Jenna. Bananas has always been about taking his friends to the finals. He has done it every season he has been on and just fought for first place.
and 100% agreed about the Sarah part. That is so dead on especially the last sentence.
Great Post as usual.
I think in 9/10 situations you're right. But if they gave them the bungee game? Paula is physically stronger than Diem and is right on her level endurance-wise...and CT might be a little heavier than Dunbar. I think Diem would've had a much more difficult time getting to the stake. I'd also pick Wes over Easy every day of the week...but sometimes you just get a game that the other person/team is better suited for and I think Paula/Dunbar would have a legitimate shot at beating them in that specific game.
The larger point was that in that situation Johnny sacrificed a "lay-up" team, one that could've made his game easier to preserve the people he was aligned with, despite the fact that it made his game more difficult. Even if he didn't want to **** off CT, he could've thrown in Emily and Ty. But he was friends with Paula and friends with Ty and Emily so he didn't.
After watching this Episode I honestly feel like Nia was sent home just so Theresa could face off with Nany , I mean Nia rants was digusting but it was pretty tame compared to some other rants we have seen and whole touching part was exaggerated , I mean she shouldn't have done it but it wasn't a full on grope and linger.
I mean they are stricter on "sexual assault" situations now because of the Tonya thing so I think they had to do it and they did warn everyone not to touch anyone else like that but at the same time I do think it was overexaggerating completely.
Listen to JOHNNY'S COMMENTS on past shows--he's a ******* hypocrite
Johnny threw in Aneesa/Rachel because he hates Rachel not to help Paula
Before anyone complains about me hating Jordan. If he performs well tonight without being unsupportive or trying to set an unnecessary fast pace I plan on giving him all the credit in the world unless Jay/Jenna beat him/Sarah
Lord, these Bananas supporters are headache worthy.
: )
I can tolerate it a LITTLE more from you, but it doesn't make it any less annoying.. Then again, I've been drinking a little, sooo.
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