In the interview, Evan said "...a lot of guys swing both ways and one is named Chris if you know who I mean." I'm paraphrasing but he definitely said the name Chris to give us a hint. CT made the comment to Tyler during The Duel 1. I would hope despite how immature Johnny, Wes, Kenny, and Evan can be that they wouldn't use CT's supposed same-sex tryst as a way to make fun of him. I mean Kenny and Evan took showers together for crying out loud! I'm not saying this is all true, but rumor's get started for a reason. haha..
[QUOTE=gnarly;276475]I'm sure that there was a lot of alcohol involved in a lot of the drama in these Challenges, included Johnny, Laurel, Kenny, CT etc.
Tonya was unstable enough as it was, it was Veronica and Evan that pushed her over the edge. Robin is dramatic (and annoying). And it was mostly Kenny that made Sarah cry.
Anyway, I'd rather be joked around with and made fun of in a joking manner than be punched in the face by a freakin giant godzilla guy.
[B]Ev has admitted to being friends with Johnny now, Sarah is friends with them, Paula is always made fun of but they're friends, a lot of people they joked around with (except Ev and Johnny weren't joking, but I'm glad they've moved past that whole Island thing) are actually their friends, so I don't see your point there.[/B][/QUOTE]
CT and Adam are friends. People move past things. It happens. I think the point people are trying to make to you is the same that you just made: there is conflict, people get ******, egos clash, but life goes on. And sometimes that **** even gets resolved. Give credit where credit is due.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;276479]In the interview, Evan said "...a lot of guys swing both ways and one is named Chris if you know who I mean." I'm paraphrasing but he definitely said the name Chris to give us a hint. CT made the comment to Tyler during The Duel 1. I would hope despite how immature Johnny, Wes, Kenny, and Evan can be that they wouldn't use CT's supposed same-sex tryst as a way to make fun of him. I mean Kenny and Evan took showers together for crying out loud! I'm not saying this is all true, but rumor's get started for a reason. haha..[/QUOTE]
You are right, he did say Chris, i remember it was in a bar interview I thnk about the duel 2 right? I can't think of who else he would be referring to. But as far as those guys taking the high road, IMO they woudln't. Like if Dustin was on the challenge, they for sure would rip him apart, that's why he doesn't go on it. Since they act so desperate to get CT thrown off, I wouldn't put it past them. I really don't believe it, but there's no way to know. Those guys probably heard the gossip/rumor, but if it's only a rumor they wouldn't bring it up to him without the retallion of smashing their heads and eating it :)
I really don't believe Tyler if he claims CT told him it's true on the duel 1. If Adam or someone who knows him said that, i'd say it would have more weight than Tyler from the duel 1. He was barely on the duel so it would have been early, and i doubt it. Interesting response by Shane though.
On Duel 1 before the competition even started, a bunch of the cast were hanging out on the deck of the house. CT was joking around with Tyler & was acting like he was hitting on him, he lifted up his shirt for Tyler & said "you might get lucky, ask Shane, he knows." There used to be a video clip of it on MTV.com, that's where I saw it at.
[QUOTE=townie;276522]On Duel 1 before the competition even started, a bunch of the cast were hanging out on the deck of the house. CT was joking around with Tyler & was acting like he was hitting on him, he lifted up his shirt for Tyler & said "you might get lucky, ask Shane, he knows." There used to be a video clip of it on MTV.com, that's where I saw it at.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. That's all that was said. Then came the interview Evan had where he said someone on the show named "Chris" swings both ways. Then Shane's cryptic answer regarding his thoughts on CT. The end. We'll never know the truth but just thought it was an interesting tid bit to share.
Ps- No one said CT was bi. Haha. If girls have drunken hook ups with other girls and it doesn't make them bi, then why is it for guys? Let's be honest, A LOT of guys do the same thing girls do, they don't talk about it.
[QUOTE=gnarly;276215]Obviously you are one of the people who jumped on the CT bandwagon this season and think [B]he's such a nice, stable person all of the sudden..[/B].Whatever it is, you're not going to convince me that Johnny and Kenny are "bad people". [B]They may not be the best, but they are far better than CT[/B].[/QUOTE]
I did not say that this is a sudden change. I said that CT is just letting the viewers see a a different side to him. [B]He has always been a nice, chill guy who is far better than Johnny [I]according to the cast.[/I][/B] Let's compare and contrast. Let's start with one of Johnny's friends:
[B]Derrick:[/B] "Johnny is my friend but yeah he is an *****" (He said this on the podcast where JB made lewd remarks to Mandi). Derrick always praises CT on his podcast to the point where I think Derrick is a secret CT fanboy.
[B]Mark Long on JB[/B]: The only time he said he hung out with him was when JB got kicked out of his best friend's car and by the bouncer just five minutes into the club.
[B]Mark Long on CT[/B]: "I wish CT would stay longer on challenges because he's a nice guy and I really get along with him."
[B]Katie on JB[/B]: I think we all know how she feels about JEK. She said she can have drink with him but can't stand him.
[B]Katie on CT:[/B] "He's always been nice to me"
[B]Reunion according to an audience member:[/B]
JB: Throwing water bottles at the host (Throwing bottles at people is apparently his "thing" according to Derrick), being obnoxious and delaying production
CT: nicest, most professional one there
[QUOTE=gnarly;276345]On the other hand, I see a lot of people bashing their characters, and then excusing CT's behavior, [B]when in reality CT has done things a lot worse: things that should have put him in jail.[/B][/QUOTE]
So why hasn't CT been in jail? Don't you think that if he did something remotely close to what we've seen on TV in real life it would be all over TMZ? CT admitted to playing up the psycho for TV. He read serial killer bedtime stories because according to him "they all think I'm psycho anyway." The irony is you think Johnny is better than CT based on what you see on television but "real life" examples like the ones above prove the opposite.
[QUOTE=gnarly;276215]I'll just say this: The guy doesn't exactly radiate empathy or intelligence. .[/QUOTE]
Since you went there, let's end with a quote from the Stanford grad Adam King: "People underestimate CT's intelligence." He may not be as eloquent as Johnny but the guy got into the engineering program at UMASS Dartmouth.
CM's tweets she sounds f'ed up, but she keeps tweeting how CT left and didn't pay her, the dj, or the models and left early while she socialized, but why would they give him all the money? Doesn't make sense, anyone know any details besides her drunken tweets? She says it was his event but they both were on poster for it they both tweeted it. I don't get it, unless he left way way early or she is just very drunk, or he had all money and left I am not sure.
[QUOTE=jojorules;276734]CM's tweets she sounds f'ed up, but she keeps tweeting how CT left and didn't pay her, the dj, or the models and left early while she socialized, but why would they give him all the money? Doesn't make sense, anyone know any details besides her drunken tweets? She says it was his event but they both were on poster for it they both tweeted it. I don't get it, unless he left way way early or she is just very drunk, or he had all money and left I am not sure.[/QUOTE]
He takes money all day, every way!
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;276740]Looks like CT ran a party, didn't really do much, and stiffed the people he was supposed to pay if I understand her tweets correctly.[/QUOTE]
Yea that's what i thought too, her tweets were pretty drunkenly rambled. But, it did show them both as co hosts, would he have all the money to pay everyone and not her? I am not sure how it works to be invited to host. If he really didn't pay anyone that's shady, but the way parties go someone prob said they would take care of it. Don't know for fact, just speculating. She tweeted like 7-8 times about it, so either way she is trying to let the world know, which not sure how i feel about that.
[QUOTE=eggs78;276733]I did not say that this is a sudden change. I said that CT is just letting the viewers see a a different side to him. [B]He has always been a nice, chill guy who is far better than Johnny [I]according to the cast.[/I][/B] Let's compare and contrast. Let's start with one of Johnny's friends:
[B]Derrick:[/B] "Johnny is my friend but yeah he is an *****" (He said this on the podcast where JB made lewd remarks to Mandi). Derrick always praises CT on his podcast to the point where I think Derrick is a secret CT fanboy.
[B]Mark Long on JB[/B]: The only time he said he hung out with him was when JB got kicked out of his best friend's car and by the bouncer just five minutes into the club.
[B]Mark Long on CT[/B]: "I wish CT would stay longer on challenges because he's a nice guy and I really get along with him."
[B]Katie on JB[/B]: I think we all know how she feels about JEK. She said she can have drink with him but can't stand him.
[B]Katie on CT:[/B] "He's always been nice to me"
[B]Reunion according to an audience member:[/B]
JB: Throwing water bottles at the host (Throwing bottles at people is apparently his "thing" according to Derrick), being obnoxious and delaying production
CT: nicest, most professional one there
So why hasn't CT been in jail? Don't you think that if he did something remotely close to what we've seen on TV in real life it would be all over TMZ? CT admitted to playing up the psycho for TV. He read serial killer bedtime stories because according to him "they all think I'm psycho anyway." The irony is you think Johnny is better than CT based on what you see on television but "real life" examples like the ones above prove the opposite.
Since you went there, let's end with a quote from the Stanford grad Adam King: "People underestimate CT's intelligence." He may not be as eloquent as Johnny but the guy got into the engineering program at UMASS Dartmouth.[/QUOTE]
Your examples seem a little biased.
Ev, who hated Johnny at one point, said they were friends, but that he still can be an *** at times, but that he radiated brilliance at times. On the other hand, while Ev praises CT athletically, she said that he was really weird, in a bad way etc.
There are examples that can go either way for both. I stated my opinion that I think people give people like Bananas (and others) a lot of **** while excusing CT, and it seems awfully hypocritical. I never claimed Bananas was a great person, I know he's a loudmouth ***, I just said he seems to have grown as a person, but doesn't get the credit for it like CT did for behaving well on one Challenge.
I wish all the best for CT and hope he continues to be stable, but I still think he was glamorized for the sake of TV and only time will tell if he's really changed.
[QUOTE=gnarly;276742]Your examples seem a little biased.
Ev, who hated Johnny at one point, said they were friends, but that he still can be an *** at times, but that he radiated brilliance at times. On the other hand, while Ev praises CT athletically, she said that he was really weird, in a bad way etc.
There are examples that can go either way for both. I stated my opinion that I think people give people like Bananas (and others) a lot of **** while excusing CT, and it seems awfully hypocritical. I never claimed Bananas was a great person, I know he's a loudmouth ***, I just said he seems to have grown as a person, but doesn't get the credit for it like CT did for behaving well on one Challenge.
I wish all the best for CT and hope he continues to be stable, but I still think he was glamorized for the sake of TV and only time will tell if he's really changed.[/QUOTE]
Dude, hahahah, there is literally nothing wrong with this guy. He is glamorized, because everyone wants to see what he will do next. Look at it like professional wrestling. Let's take Stone Cold Steve Austin for instance. He use to say the most insane **** and wasn't a "good guy" but all the people got behind him cause he took no ones **** and bullied people, didn't matter who they were. Same thing goes for C.T. It's entertaining. Would you rather watch him and Wes have a civilized conversation on the game or watch him say some of the most insane $hit. I'll take the insane ****. The dude has an aura about him that pulls you in and its always been that way. It had nothing to do with him being a "nice" guy. It's cause he's upfront, real, and intense. When he's on the shows he is the center of attention every time. Johnny is at his best when he hates chics. He was amazing on the Island with that "Ya Dumb *****" line! Yeah he came off as a dirt bag, but without him it would not have been nearly as good! Listen, these guys don't need to change their ways and become stand up individuals on this show. Let them do that in real life. It's a battlefield and they need to keep dealing chaos! Remeber when Derrick was a hard *** on these shows? I do. He would get all drunk and think he was King Kong! Then he got married and put his balls in his wife's purse! If that ever happened to C.T. that would be a sad day for the Challenge.
[QUOTE=hitman;276743]Dude, hahahah, there is literally nothing wrong with this guy. [/QUOTE]
Personally, I think you're using the word "literally" wrong...
Cara Maria's a drama queen, so what else would you expect from here than to immediately run home to Twitter and blow something completely out of proportion into something it's not just to get herself some attention? CT's been in this game for almost 9 years now, Cara Maria is still a pup when it comes to running with the big dogs and hosting big parties. Maybe something came up and he had to leave early, I don't know, but CT wouldn't do something like that. Whatever is going on with him and the money will be taken care of.
[QUOTE=townie;276745]Cara Maria's a drama queen, so what else would you expect from here than to immediately run home to Twitter and blow something completely out of proportion into something it's not just to get herself some attention? CT's been in this game for almost 9 years now, Cara Maria is still a pup when it comes to running with the big dogs and hosting big parties. Maybe something came up and he had to leave early, I don't know, but CT wouldn't do something like that. Whatever is going on with him and the money will be taken care of.[/QUOTE]
Townie you are right. Exact quote from her formspring yesterday afternoon below in reference to the Derrick/Wes twittter fight. How ironic is this :). I do believe she has CT's number, and 7 plus tweets in a row about him trashing him is considered a twitter fight IMO and the quote below from her was posted just yesterday afternoon. The only difference is he just isn't responding. She nailed it though, desperate/hilarious cry for attention. This couldn't have been done private with maybe one tweet referencing he left early? Not a good look Cara after just basically saying Derrick/Wes were attention *****s for doing the same thing.
"twitter fights are just hilarious cries for attention. i'm not pickin a side or saying anything against anyone. when cast mates pick fights with me on twitter- i tell em they have my number and they can call me. no need to fight about it on twitter. ... but hey.. i hear there's a new challenge comin up so maybe people are trying to secure a spot by stirrn up drama."
From someone who has experience in working side jobs where you get paid in cash, it doesn't look like Cara is going to get paid. If something came up, what someone who will pay you will do is let you know instead of not picking up his phone. In fact, I would bet 'the thing that came up' was either he never had the money or he just stole it. In a couple of days she is probably going to get a story instead of money from the guy, since they will probably see each other again he at least will have to come up with a story. Either way, a lot of people on this site will break out the knee pads and make excuses for him like they always do.
On a side note, if someone screwed me over and would not answer their phone, I would probably blow up every avenue I could get a hold of them too. But that is just me, I like to get paid, I guess I am just weird like that.
Yes I think Cara Maria likes attention, but if CT is not answering phone calls, then maybe tweeting about it would finally get his attention. It's a lot different from Derrick and Wes going back and forth over some macho competition that happened years ago. Derrick realizes he's been boring lately and just wants to get on another challenge.
Regardless of Cara Maria liking attention, it doesn't take away from the fact that it's looking shady from CTs end if he just bailed like that without paying up the money he owes or giving an explanation. If something came up, he could have atleast let her or someone know before leaving the venue. This just seems sketchy.
People like CT from watching the shows now because he was doing the nice guy act this season. So they are going to make excuses for him anyway. But it's been said that a lot of people from the shows don't like him because of various things he has done to them in the past (not just what you see on the shows). Like Kenny just said on twitter, it's no surprise that he would do something like this to Cara Maria.
Yea it's fishy for sure. Unless he isn't up yet and blacked out hardcore and doesn't realize all this happened, he hasn't been on twitter or anything since. Not saying it's right or excuse because it's still wrong, just wondering when he finally will post again.
Maybe a mods will know, when they do these MTV challenge sponsored events, do they always get paid at the event, or is it sometimes the next day? I don't want to say because I honestly don't know.
However, I don't think that if he is not answering his phone or texts, he will see 8 of the tweets and respond. Not sure why that would get him to respond if phone/text didn't. If he's not checking his phone, I doubt he would be on twitter. Unless she posted a tweet like anyone run into CT of my followers, tell him to contact me ASAP, than she would get her point across and not have all those tweets where it looks like she is going for attention. So not sure i buy her logic on that one based on how she tweeted. I don't think the pont of the tweets was to get him to call her or she had the mindest before sending she was doing it to get him to pay. She wanted people to know to feel bad for her/attention IMO. But she earned the money regardless so she should be payed. Hopefully he does just that. I can understand her tweeting in the moment though being ****** off and probably drunk. I am not defending CT at all, i just hope he makes amends to whoever he needs to asap.
It's weird she was saying this morning looks like I am not getting paid. I wonder if she did talk to him or something. I mean he can still pay her. They will see each other again you would think at gym/vegasbash/etc. I am sure this will all be revealed on twitter so stay tuned......
[QUOTE=jojorules;276788] They will see each other again you would think at gym/[B]vegasbash[/B]/etc. I am sure this will all be revealed on twitter so stay tuned......[/QUOTE]
CT was not invited to Vegas Bash 2011.
[QUOTE=V1man;276790]CT was not invited to Vegas Bash 2011.[/QUOTE]
Did they only invite a select few, or any particular reason? I thought they all were invited, but not all going.
[QUOTE=townie;276745]Cara Maria's a drama queen, so what else would you expect from here than to immediately run home to Twitter and blow something completely out of proportion into something it's not just to get herself some attention? [B]CT's been in this game for almost 9 years now, Cara Maria is still a pup when it comes to running with the big dogs and hosting big parties.[/B] Maybe something came up and he had to leave early, I don't know, but CT wouldn't do something like that. Whatever is going on with him and the money will be taken care of.[/QUOTE]
Maybe this was her welcome to the [I]cutthroat[/I] world of party hosting! She's a minnow in a shark tank. It's a dog eat dog world of parties, Cara Maria, get used to it!
[QUOTE=jojorules;276791]Did they only invite a select few, or any particular reason? I thought they all were invited, but not all going.[/QUOTE]
There was a select group invited based on the availability of funding and other considerations. The MTV cast is attracting a new and different demographic to the bash (a good think that I've pushed), but it is still focused on current Big Brother HGs and the BB family. We are constrained by space (the Friday Meet and Greet VIP event was sold out two months ago), as well as space for the Saturday evening event at VooDoo Lounge.
This is not a charity event, but we do like to at least break even. Airline travel to/from Vegas is up 18% in cost over last year. That hurts us. Most reality cast members can receive an invitation (or a least a "you're welcome to come"), but not everyone is offered a ticket and hotel room. We do listen to the views of the insurance underwriters, hotel management, the people buying tickets, and the investors, who may have favorable or unfavorable views regarding certain people. Brandon Nelson has done a good job of attracting a number of interesting MTV personalities for this year's bash.
If you can't be in Vegas, there is a life feed available during the weekend. One update to the posted list of attendees is that Wes will now not be attending. One new event this year is a party bus that will be bringing from LA to Vegas some of the likely very hungover cast of BB13 following their party in LA on the 15th.
[QUOTE=RubenJay05;276668]Ps, Let's be honest, A LOT of guys do the same thing girls do, they don't talk about it.[/QUOTE]
My sentiments exactly. Double standard though.
[QUOTE=townie;276745] CT's been in this game for almost 9 years now, Cara Maria is still a pup when it comes to running with the big dogs and hosting big parties. Maybe something came up and he had to leave early, I don't know, but CT wouldn't do something like that. Whatever is going on with him and the money will be taken care of.[/QUOTE]
Technically around 7-8....
Anyway, I seriously doubt something came up. That would be too convenient.
Yeah, because CT has been hosting/organizing similar parties since 2003 and he does stuff like this all the time...get a clue.
I love how Cara Maria always whines and cries about how immature everybody is and how everybody just tries to stir up drama...then the first thing she does last night is goes home and cries to the world on Twitter about how CT screwed her over without even having the slightest clue of what came up or why he had to leave or anything.
It's not like he won't see her around again...does she really think he's going to bail on paying her for a gig & go fleeing around the country coast-to-coast to avoid her the rest of his life?
[QUOTE=townie;276813]Yeah, because CT has been hosting/organizing similar parties since 2003 and he does stuff like this all the time...get a clue.
I love how Cara Maria always whines and cries about how immature everybody is and how everybody just tries to stir up drama...[B]then the first thing she does last night is goes home and cries to the world on Twitter about how CT screwed her over without even having the slightest clue of what came up or why he had to leave or anything.[/B]
It's not like he won't see her around again...does she really think he's going to bail on paying her for a gig & go fleeing around the country coast-to-coast to avoid her the rest of his life?[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure the first thing she did was call and text CT numerous times before going to Twitter to try and get his attention. Yeah Twitter wasn't the right way to go about it, but no matter how much you try to spin this, CT is/was wrong.
You ever think maybe he lost his phone, didn't have it on him, or maybe it was dead? If he's not answering his phone which is usually with him all the time, I doubt he's going to run home to Twitter, which he goes on like maybe 2 or 3 times a week, to see if anybody was trying to get a hold of him. She's just trying to stir up drama and get attention as always.
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