The Challenge: Free Agents - Ratings

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH women under 35!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=PinkRose;415051]lmaooo something is something. It was the second show on cable overall on Thursday night. I never understand ratings on TVBythenumbers it say it got a 1.14 on the viewership, Joe Adalin tweet it got a 1.4 just on adult woman under 35....[/QUOTE] 1.14 is the total viewers watched. however if a certain demographic like women 18-34 gets a 1.4 rating, it doesnt mean viewers, it just means the percentage (1.4%) of women 18-34 were watching. in tvbythenumbers it says about 33,780,000 people are women 18-34, so if we just multiply that by 1.4% (.014) we get ~472,000 viewers. so the 1,140,000 people that were watching, about 472,000 viewers were women 18-34. hope this is somewhat accurate or ill feel stupid

taking a look at Tuesday night cable ratings, I think it would be more advantageous for MTV to move The Challenge and maybe even Real World back to Tuesday nights where they started. Just way too much competition on Thursday nights, I am sure thats why ratings suck this season, even though this season is MUCH better than Rivals 2.

Very tough night. Sports had two really big games going.

No surprise. I didn't watch live for the first time in a while just because of the NHL and NBA. The Ranger game ended 2/3rds through the episode and I pretty much immediately switched to the Spurs. Just not a great night.

[QUOTE=IAMNEMESIS;416482]taking a look at Tuesday night cable ratings, I think it would be more advantageous for MTV to move The Challenge and maybe even Real World back to Tuesday nights where they started. Just way too much competition on Thursday nights, I am sure thats why ratings suck this season, even though this season is MUCH better than Rivals 2.[/QUOTE] They need to go back to Wednesdays next season. Tuesday could work but everyone is use to Wednesdays.

I HATE it being on Thursdays. Bad move MTV.

[QUOTE=IAMNEMESIS;416482]taking a look at Tuesday night cable ratings, I think it would be more advantageous for MTV to move The Challenge and maybe even Real World back to Tuesday nights where they started. Just way too much competition on Thursday nights, I am sure thats why ratings suck this season, even though this season is MUCH better than Rivals 2.[/QUOTE] This season is not much better than Rivals 2, I dont even think its better. Its been lack luster so far for me. Its a poor format in my opinion. A Duel format would have been much better.

I think this season is worse than Rivals 2.

I think the problem with this season is that every season since Rivals 1 has had a hook in terms of the cast. Rivals 1 was CT, JEK back together, and to a MUCH lesser extend Aneesa and Robin coming back (people were excited, even though they left early). Exes was the return of the CT/Diem dynamic. Seasons had Zach who, after his RW season, everyone was touting as the next big thing plus all the other new people. Then Rivals II was CT and Bananas and the vets being back. This season it's just the same people. No real intrigue from the cast.

[QUOTE=PinkRose;416539]Monday or Tuesday would be better than either Wednesday/Thursday[/QUOTE] They should have just stuck with Wednesday. Its really not that bad.

[QUOTE=JL81790;416538]I think the problem with this season is that every season since Rivals 1 has had a hook in terms of the cast. Rivals 1 was CT, JEK back together, and to a MUCH lesser extend Aneesa and Robin coming back (people were excited, even though they left early). Exes was the return of the CT/Diem dynamic. Seasons had Zach who, after his RW season, everyone was touting as the next big thing plus all the other new people. Then Rivals II was CT and Bananas and the vets being back. This season it's just the same people. No real intrigue from the cast.[/QUOTE] You're right there really is no hook to this season I mean last season I specifically tuned in to see if CT & Wes together can finally beat Johnny Bananas which they did and in my opinion lead to a happy ending to last season. This season however I was really hoping to see a changing of the guard I wanted to see guys like Jordan, Frank, Zach, and Leroy just take control of this season and thus take control of the franchise becoming the new faces of The Challenge but they really haven't done anything to change the The Challenge landscape.

[QUOTE=PinkRose;416576]Wednesday and Thursday are tough competition nights for a show that have been on for 30 and 25 seasons. Monday/Tuesday are not as tough, you can Google it. The show used to air Tuesday in its early seasons.[/QUOTE] I think I even remember it airing Monday nights too.

[QUOTE]You're right there really is no hook to this season I mean last season I specifically tuned in to see if CT & Wes together can finally beat Johnny Bananas which they did and in my opinion lead to a happy ending to last season. This season however I was really hoping to see a changing of the guard I wanted to see guys like Jordan, Frank, Zach, and Leroy just take control of this season and thus take control of the franchise becoming the new faces of The Challenge but they really haven't done anything to change the The Challenge landscape. [/QUOTE] That's one of the problems with the season I think... which might be why the ratings aren't as good as Rivals 2. Overall, the cast just isn't that good this season. Sure, you have CT and Johnny, but that's about it. Love him or hate him, but Wes always brings a lot of excitement and energy to the show. That seems to be missing this season. Jordon seems like he's trying to be Wes, except for the fact that he hasn't done a thing on these shows. Wes at least could back it up. There also seems to be more newer people than usual. Like does anyone actually care about Jessica, Emilee, Brandon, Swift, Theresa, Chet, Preston, Johnny Reilly, Cohutta, or Issac? None of them are really that interesting and they didn't really bring anything to the show. When there are only a select few cast mates that are interesting or that you care about, that's a problem. There were also way too many weak players this season, where as with Rivals 2 and the other partner seasons, it felt like 5-6 teams legitimately had a strong shot at winning. It also added an interesting dynamic that people were interested in. People like Preston and Jasmine are a waste because they have no chance. That elimination between Laurel and Jasmine wasn't even fun. With the partner seasons, the teams are more evenly matched, which makes things more interesting. Something like The Challenge: All Stars would be interesting. Get the best players from the past. No Preston's or Jasmine's. Get Emily, Ev, and Laurel on at the same time, etc. It's not really a competition when you have Laurel vs. Jasmine and we just have Laurel winning every challenge. Laurel vs Emily would be much more interesting. BTW.. is Kenny ever coming back?

[QUOTE=DaNamesBond2;416865]That's one of the problems with the season I think... which might be why the ratings aren't as good as Rivals 2. Overall, the cast just isn't that good this season. Sure, you have CT and Johnny, but that's about it. Love him or hate him, but Wes always brings a lot of excitement and energy to the show. That seems to be missing this season. Jordon seems like he's trying to be Wes, except for the fact that he hasn't done a thing on these shows. Wes at least could back it up. There also seems to be more newer people than usual. Like does anyone actually care about Jessica, Emilee, Brandon, Swift, Theresa, Chet, Preston, Johnny Reilly, Cohutta, or Issac? None of them are really that interesting and they didn't really bring anything to the show. When there are only a select few cast mates that are interesting or that you care about, that's a problem. There were also way too many weak players this season, where as with Rivals 2 and the other partner seasons, it felt like 5-6 teams legitimately had a strong shot at winning. It also added an interesting dynamic that people were interested in. People like Preston and Jasmine are a waste because they have no chance. That elimination between Laurel and Jasmine wasn't even fun. With the partner seasons, the teams are more evenly matched, which makes things more interesting. Something like The Challenge: All Stars would be interesting. Get the best players from the past. No Preston's or Jasmine's. Get Emily, Ev, and Laurel on at the same time, etc. It's not really a competition when you have Laurel vs. Jasmine and we just have Laurel winning every challenge. Laurel vs Emily would be much more interesting. BTW.. is Kenny ever coming back?[/QUOTE] Idk if Kenny is coming back but I wouldn't mind tbh. Only Kenny though not Evan.

[QUOTE=Meelz;416783]I think I even remember it airing Monday nights too.[/QUOTE] That was Road Rules...I remember fondly watching Road Rules on Monday night then Real World the next night...those were the good ole days!

[QUOTE=Livewitpeace;416867]Idk if Kenny is coming back but I wouldn't mind tbh. Only Kenny though not Evan.[/QUOTE] I wish both of them would come back, as they are both entertaining. I think an Allstars challenge would work only if it were a Duel format. Brad, Mark, Susie and maybe a few others have said they would come back under the right circumstances. If the Challenge is on the way out this would be a great Challenge type to end on!

[QUOTE=DaNamesBond2;416865]That's one of the problems with the season I think... which might be why the ratings aren't as good as Rivals 2. Overall, the cast just isn't that good this season. Sure, you have CT and Johnny, but that's about it. Love him or hate him, but Wes always brings a lot of excitement and energy to the show. That seems to be missing this season. Jordon seems like he's trying to be Wes, except for the fact that he hasn't done a thing on these shows. Wes at least could back it up. There also seems to be more newer people than usual. Like does anyone actually care about Jessica, Emilee, Brandon, Swift, Theresa, Chet, Preston, Johnny Reilly, Cohutta, or Issac? None of them are really that interesting and they didn't really bring anything to the show. When there are only a select few cast mates that are interesting or that you care about, that's a problem. There were also way too many weak players this season, where as with Rivals 2 and the other partner seasons, it felt like 5-6 teams legitimately had a strong shot at winning. It also added an interesting dynamic that people were interested in. People like Preston and Jasmine are a waste because they have no chance. That elimination between Laurel and Jasmine wasn't even fun. With the partner seasons, the teams are more evenly matched, which makes things more interesting. Something like The Challenge: All Stars would be interesting. Get the best players from the past. No Preston's or Jasmine's. Get Emily, Ev, and Laurel on at the same time, etc. It's not really a competition when you have Laurel vs. Jasmine and we just have Laurel winning every challenge. Laurel vs Emily would be much more interesting. BTW.. is Kenny ever coming back?[/QUOTE] Your idea, while might be good for others on this forum, isn't sitting well with me. Every season, you're going to have your "duds;" it's been that way from the get-go, and I don't see it changing in the near future. Sorry, but you can't have all strong competitors on one season. Evelyn is done (this has been stated [B]multiple[/B] times on this site), and Laurel vs. Emily would be the only competition. Possibly throw in Cara Maria, but that's it; Theresa and Sarah are another notch down from those three (Cara Maria might be in-between the two notches). The guys -- if there were to be a best of the best -- could work a bit better than the girls, but not by much. We've already seen Bananas vs. CT too many times; I don't think there will be anything added on with that. Wes is not in the same shape as his Duel days. Darrell, Derrick, and Mark could be on there. After that, I'm not too sure who else would be interested. As for Kenny -- and Evan as well -- they're both liabilities to BMP (or so what I've heard on this site) so they will not be returning to compete. They can do the after shows, etc...those type of things for The Challenge, but they're not going to compete anytime soon. I could be wrong, but I'm 99.99% sure that this is the case.

[QUOTE=ItalianBeats;416893]Your idea, while might be good for others on this forum, isn't sitting well with me. Every season, you're going to have your "duds;" it's been that way from the get-go, and I don't see it changing in the near future. Sorry, but you can't have all strong competitors on one season. Evelyn is done (this has been stated [B]multiple[/B] times on this site), and Laurel vs. Emily would be the only competition. Possibly throw in Cara Maria, but that's it; Theresa and Sarah are another notch down from those three (Cara Maria might be in-between the two notches). [/QUOTE] **** about Rachel? Tori? Jill?

[QUOTE=audreyhorne;416905]Shat about Rachel? Tori? Jill?[/QUOTE] Jillian is done. Tori has stated she is done but there is a small possibility she would return, but probably only with Brad. Rachel is still interested if a Challenge works into her schedule.

So many old schoolers are done. So sad. :(

[QUOTE=toenails;416923]So many old schoolers are done. So sad. :([/QUOTE] There is a still a good chunk of them that are interested, they just never get the call.

[QUOTE=ItalianBeats;416893] As for Kenny -- and Evan as well -- they're both liabilities to BMP (or so what I've heard on this site) so they will not be returning to compete. They can do the after shows, etc...those type of things for The Challenge, but they're not going to compete anytime soon. I could be wrong, but I'm 99.99% sure that this is the case.[/QUOTE] I know the history of Kenny and Evan, but if they can still be associated with MTV by doing after shows, hosting reunions, etc... then I don't see the difference of them actually being on the show. If they really were liabilities, MTV would distance themselves from them. Yet, Kenny has done the after shows and stuff like that after the incident.

[QUOTE=DaNamesBond2;416969]I know the history of Kenny and Evan, but if they can still be associated with MTV by doing after shows, hosting reunions, etc... then I don't see the difference of them actually being on the show. If they really were liabilities, MTV would distance themselves from them. Yet, Kenny has done the after shows and stuff like that after the incident.[/QUOTE] Them being on aftershows and hosting/doing interviews is much different than them living in the challenge house and being given booze. They won't and shouldn't be back on a challenge.