[QUOTE=DaNamesBond2;416969]I know the history of Kenny and Evan, but if they can still be associated with MTV by doing after shows, hosting reunions, etc... then I don't see the difference of them actually being on the show. If they really were liabilities, MTV would distance themselves from them. Yet, Kenny has done the after shows and stuff like that after the incident.[/QUOTE]
There is difference between hosting after shows, Special and reunion that only take a day to film. Than living in a house with 26-30 other castmemebers for 6 weeks. They are consider production liabilities after the sue.
I wouldn't be surprised if Adam Royers get unbanned sooner than later. While it will be shocking to see Kenny/Evan do , which realistically speaking is never happening again.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;416978]There is difference between hosting after shows, Special and reunion that only take a day to film. Than living in a house with 26-30 other castmemebers for 6 weeks. They are consider production liabilities after the sue.
I wouldn't be surprised if Adam Royers get unbanned sooner than later. While it will be shocking to see Kenny/Evan do , which realistically speaking is never happening again.[/QUOTE]
that is absolutely ridiculous and moronic...all because of one skanky psychotic hussy
[QUOTE=PinkRose;416925]Sad for the viewers that enjoy old schooler, good for them they have other stuff going for them instead of being on the same shows for 10-15 years without a family or a stable job.[/QUOTE]
I agree about the stable job, but not everyone wants to start a family. There's nothing sad about valuing your freedom. Some individuals choose to NOT be enslaved by society. ;)
[QUOTE=toenails;417059]I agree about the stable job, but not everyone wants to start a family. There's nothing sad about valuing your freedom. Some individuals choose to NOT be enslaved by society. ;)[/QUOTE]
And I think they would come back under the right circumstances (ie. right format, right timing for work, right cast.. ect)
I'm not so sure if casting old-schoolers is going to be the answer. I mean some of these people have families now and they're not going to be hooking up or causing drama because of that. And even the ones who don't have a family just might not have the time for petty drama and just focus on the competition. Where this show has been lacking for years i might add.
I am so confused, why are Kenny and Evan considered production liabilities? I know that there was some hoopla a while back about never having them back again, but I never found out why. I know that there was also some grumblings about them during The Ruins too (that they stole food). Not that I care whether or not they do come back, because they're two of my least favorite challenge members. Knowing that they won challenges was reason enough for me to quit certain seasons early.
[QUOTE=Heelin';417388]I am so confused, why are Kenny and Evan considered production liabilities? I know that there was some hoopla a while back about never having them back again, but I never found out why. I know that there was also some grumblings about them during The Ruins too (that they stole food). Not that I care whether or not they do come back, because they're two of my least favorite challenge members. Knowing that they won challenges was reason enough for me to quit certain seasons early.[/QUOTE]
They were accused of sexually assaulting Tonya with a tooth brush. The reason they are liabilities is because they got BMP sued by Tonya, I believe they settled outside of court though, but BMP is not going to risk getting sued again, that is why they are production liabilities.
[QUOTE=Heelin';417388]I am so confused, why are Kenny and Evan considered production liabilities? I know that there was some hoopla a while back about never having them back again, but I never found out why. I know that there was also some grumblings about them during The Ruins too (that they stole food). Not that I care whether or not they do come back, because they're two of my least favorite challenge members. Knowing that they won challenges was reason enough for me to quit certain seasons early.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CTRoyLeeFAN;417391]They were accused of sexually assaulting Tonya with a tooth brush. The reason they are liabilities is because they got BMP sued by Tonya, I believe they settled outside of court though, but BMP is not going to risk getting sued again, that is why they are production liabilities.[/QUOTE]
They also made them lose a good amount money.
Tonya accusation was:
"took another male participant's toothbrush (Wes) and rubbed the toothbrush around [Cooley]'s genitals, including rubbing her ***** and inserting the toothbrush into plaintiff's ******"
MTV/iacom never denied any of Tonya accusations towards Kenny/Evan they never stated false, instead they blame her for it which make me believed those accusations were true. Viacom/MTV stated the following:
"[Cooley] failed to avoid the injuries of which she complains. [She] was frequently intoxicated, rowdy, combative, flirtatious and on multiple occasions intentionally exposed her bare breasts and genitalia to other contestants." So they don't deny that a sexual assault happened; rather, she had it coming."
That's why they are liabilities.
How would putting Kenny and Evan on a Challenge make BMP at risk to get sued again? Because they are anticipating another assault incident happening or do they think Tonya will sue them again?
[QUOTE=toenails;417546]How would putting Kenny and Evan on a Challenge make BMP at risk to get sued again? Because they are anticipating another assault incident happening or do they think Tonya will sue them again?[/QUOTE]
Rumor has it that the settlement included that those "individuals" wouldn't appeared in more challenges forcing them to "retired". Plus, the whole settlement and sue cost the insurance company a good amount of $$$. That's why they are liabilities they made them lose money, MTV/BMP are way more strict after the sue that's why vinny got removed from battle of the exes and probably is not being invited back ever again for removing Mandi's shirt in a club.
Expect tonight's episode to have an awful rating considering 9 PM is game 1 of the NBA finals. They MAY get somewhat lucky with halftime timing but I doubt it
I can only imagine how bad the ratings are going to be for tonight, NBA Finals is coming for them ratings. The heat , the spurs, the rematch , they all coming for the ratings
[QUOTE=RatedRudy;417901]I can only imagine how bad the ratings are going to be for tonight, NBA Finals is coming for them ratings. The heat , the spurs, the rematch , they all coming for the ratings[/QUOTE]
GO HEAT NATION! Bout to get turnt tonight! Bars here I come LOL :)
[QUOTE=hannamez8;418263]Was the challenge trending tonight? I didn't check till after it was over and usually it still does trend for a bit but I couldn't find it :/[/QUOTE]
Zach and CT / Cara Maria were trending world wide:
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Sorry guys but I think the ratings will take a big hit after last night's NBA finals game 1. LeBron and his menopausal cramps will be a headline for a while and had a lot of attention last night. I'm thinking that the challenge might dip back under a million.
I see advertisements for Faking It EVERYWHERE, even on other channels, and their ratings still suck... Why does MTV work so hard to promote shows that are sucking WITH PROMOTION but failing to give decent promotion to a show that's beating them.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;418415]I see advertisements for Faking It EVERYWHERE, even on other channels, and their ratings still suck... Why does MTV work so hard to promote shows that are sucking WITH PROMOTION but failing to give decent promotion to a show that's beating them.[/QUOTE]
Maybe those are purely in house shows so they are heavily invested.
So here are the overall season ratings for The Ruins to now. I will do an update once Free Agents is over but for now I just included the 9 episodes added.
[B]The Ruins:[/B] 1,615,200
[B]Fresh Meat II:[/B] 976,000
[B]Cutthroat:[/B] 1,318,900
[B]Rivals:[/B] 1,818,000
[B]Battle of the Exes:[/B] 1,937,000
[B]Battle of the Seasons:[/B] 1,090,000
[B]Rivals II:[/B] 1,470,000
[B]Free Agents:[/B] (so far with just 9 episodes) 1,025,000
So in order from highest rated to lowest (I won't include Free Agents yet) is
1. Battle of the Exes
2. Rivals
3. The Ruins
4. Rivals II
5. Cutthroat
6. Battle of the Seasons
7. Fresh Meat II
My prediction is Free Agents will either beat BOTS or do worse but not by much in either cases.
I couldn't find all the ratings for the Duel 2 but I think the ratings were actually up there with The Ruins.
Can someone refresh my memory as to why were the ratings for Fresh Meat 2 so terrible? I thought it was way better than the first one, with the whole Wes/Eveyn ms Kenny storyline
[QUOTE=nevidcm;418448]I had no idea Fresh Meat II did so bad.[/QUOTE]
I'm not Surprised. That challenge was Boring and Mediocre. It deserved the bad ratings it got.
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